ايبيرس بودكاست - الحلقة الثامنة: الصيدلة الاكلينيكية في ميزان الواقع - مع د جيهان الطحاوي

هل الخريج كرينيكال وجايلك بس بالتكليف بتاعه مستواه بيبقى زي وزي اللي انتي اخترتيه في انتروفيو؟

Is the graduate clinical and is your communication with him only based on his assignment? Is his level the same as the one you chose in the interview?

لا طبعا طبعا

No, of course not.

طيب هل بعد مثلا 6 شهور في التيم بيوصل الانديفيدوالا يعني فرقات فردية يعني من كل مثلا مثلا يعني 20 30 ممكن تلاقي واحد اثنين

Okay, so after, for example, 6 months in the team, does the individual performance show differences? For example, out of every 20 or 30, you might find one or two.

لو هتنصحيهم دلوقتي قدامهم اوبشنز كتير بورد زمالة فارم دي دبلومة هل في حاجة معينة انت شايفة ان هي دي اللي فعلا هتخدم المريض ودي هتكون تضيع وقت؟

If you were to advise them now, considering they have many options like the Board, Fellowship, and Diploma, is there something specific that you see as truly benefiting the patient and something that would be a waste of time?

يعني احنا نكتبهم نكتبهم افضل

It means we write them, we write them better.

ماشي ترتيب الشهادات كده من وجهة نظر الدكتوروجي

The arrangement of the certificates is like this from Dr. Waji's perspective.

المهنة في خطر المهنة دخلت نفق مظلم

The profession is in danger; the profession has entered a dark tunnel.

تريكورد في الاول عشان ايه نكسر الحاجز بتاع الكاميرا يعني خلاص هي اورادي شغال

Record at first, why? To break the barrier of the camera, meaning it's already working.

طيب زيكي دكتورة جهنم

Sure, how are you, Doctor Hell?

زيكي غريبة

Your style is strange.

مديرتي العزيزة

My dear manager.

انا سعيد جدا ان انا معاكي النهاردة في حلقة من حلقات البودكاست طبعا يعني غني عن التعريف

I am very happy to be with you today in an episode of the podcast, which obviously needs no introduction.

المديرة السابقة لقسم الصيدلة

The former head of the pharmacy department.

مستشفى وكلينيكل في ابو كريم

Hospital and clinic in Abu Karim

مستشفى جامعة القاهرة التخصص لطب الاطفال

Cairo University Specialized Hospital for Pediatrics

ورحلة طويلة بقى قبلها

And a long journey remained before it.

فانا عايز كنتي تقولي لنا كده ايه ملخص الرحلة دي

I want you to tell us what the summary of this trip is.

ملخص الرحلة

Summary of the trip

مش لازم تقولي تخرجتي سنة كام

You don't have to tell me what year you graduated.

لا عاوز

No, I don't want to.

لا انا خرجت صيدلة جامعة القاهرة دفعة تسعة وتسعين

No, I graduated from the Faculty of Pharmacy at Cairo University, class of '99.

ما قبل الالفينيات يعني

What does "pre-2000s" mean?

دفعة تسعة وتسعين

Batch ninety-nine

وبعد كده تعينت في القصر العيني

After that, I was appointed at Qasr El Eini.

القديم نحن نقول عليه القديم

We call the old one "the old."

كان بقى جاول لداخل القصر العيني

He was still wandering inside Al-Qasr Al-Eini.

يعني ابتديت الاول في الصيدلية اللي هم تسميها الصيدلية الداخلية

I started first in the pharmacy they call the internal pharmacy.

مع هناك يعني مستشفيات مانيا القبلي وكلام ده كله

With there means the hospitals in Maniya Qibli and all that talk.

وبعدين رحت مستشفى الطوارئ رحت الهيئات الخارجية وهكذا يعني

Then I went to the emergency hospital and then to the external agencies, and so on.

وبعد كده سفرت فترة

And after that, I traveled for a while.

خلال سفر فترة دي في السعودية

During the travel period of the visa in Saudi Arabia.

بقيت اروح تريننج

I continued to go to training.

في بعض المستشفيات كده يعني ممكن قدها فلوس

In some hospitals, it could mean a lot of money.

ممكن يعني بالعلاقات اروح تريننج

It could mean in relationships I can go training.

فبقيت اشوف كان لسه بداية الكلينيكل اواخر 2009-2010 هناك كده

So I kept seeing if it was still the beginning of the clinical phase in late 2009-2010 around that time.

فبتديت عايزة اعرف ايه الفيلد ده

So I started wanting to know what this field is.

ما كنتش طبعاً سبعت عنه في مصر خالص

I definitely didn't hear about it in Egypt at all.

فبتديت احاول اخد تريننج مع الناس هناك في بعض المستشفيات

So I started trying to take training with the people there in some hospitals.

كان بيبقى فيها يعني كلهم بيبقوا اجانب يعني

It would have foreigners in it, I mean all of them are foreigners.

حتى رئيس القسم كان اجنبي كان من جنوب افريقيا

Even the department head was a foreigner from South Africa.

كلام ده كله كنا بنقوله سر يعني

All of this was something we used to say in secret.

فكنا بنروح نتمرن شوية نتدرب شوية

So we would go train a little, practice a little.

فكنت حابة اعرف ايه الفيلد ده

I wanted to know what this field is.

لما رجعت من السعودية بعدها رحت بقى مستشفى بوريشي الياباني

When I returned from Saudi Arabia, I then went to the Burishi Japanese Hospital.

على طول يعني اول المكان اشتغلت فيه بعد ما جيتي كان بوريشي

Right away means the first place I worked at after you came was Burishi.

اوه كان مستشفى بوريشي الياباني بس كنت جاية فرمس استعادية خالص

Oh, it was the Japanese Burishi Hospital, but I was just coming for a complete check-up.

وده يمكن يعني ربنا وفقني لان انا فعلاً اول ما نزلت رحت بوريشي الياباني

This might mean that God has guided me because when I first arrived, I went straight to the Japanese Bakery.

وكان ربنا وهي ابن مديرة ملأ انسة فضله حقيقي

Our Lord, and she is the daughter of the administrator, is truly filled with grace.

دكتورة ايمان عبد المحسن

Dr. Iman Abdel Mohsen

she believes in me يعني هي اما بيها بشكل او ما يعني

She believes in me means she either has confidence in me in some way or another.

لان كنت بقولها نفسي نعمل حاجة اسمها clinical pharmacy

I was just saying to myself that we should do something called clinical pharmacy.

يلا جوا قاعد شوفي ازاي نبتدي شوفي ازاي نعمل

Come on, let's go inside, see how we start, see how we do it.

بس ما كنتش فاهمة ازاي ابتدي

But I didn't understand how to start.

وكنت شايفة resistance رهيب بقى يعني سنة 2011 ده

"I was seeing a huge resistance in 2011."

يعني قول اول 2012 كان resistance رهيب لموضوع الclinical pharmacy

It means that in early 2012, there was a strong resistance to the topic of clinical pharmacy.

ان هو يبقى

He remains.

يبدأ في الاسر العيني ما كانش لطيف خالص الرب

It starts in the eye of the beholder; it wasn't pleasant at all, Lord.

وفبتديت ألجأ لي اللي انا عايزة الاول ابدأ بنفسي اللي انا ادرس

"I started to resort to what I want, and first I want to start with myself and what I study."

طيب عايزة ادرس زمالة كان يعني هو كان ايامنا يعني يا clinical diploma

Okay, I want to study a fellowship, which means, during our time, it was like a clinical diploma.

يا زمالة كان زمالة مصرية fellowship

Oh fellowship, it was an Egyptian fellowship.

يا البورد ابتدا كان لسه بيطلع في مصرها مش قوي يعني

Oh, the board was just starting to emerge in its own way in Egypt, not too strong, you know.

فقلت الزمالة حاجة طبعاً

I said that camaraderie is definitely important.

يعني وزارة الصحة او كده وثلاث سنين

It means the Ministry of Health or something like that, and three years.

فلاقيت ان هو الكريتيريا بتاعتها حلوة يعني

I found that her criteria are good, I mean.

سنة تقريباً نظري وسنتين عمدت

Almost a year of theory and two years of practice.

فما كانش يعني بتتخصص شوية بس يعني ايه

So it wasn't like it was just specialized a little, but what does it mean?

فعجبني يعني عجبني ان هو هيبقى فيه practical اكتر

I liked that there will be more practical aspects.

unfortunately لان كان فيه resistance كانوا رافضين كانوا رافضين

Unfortunately, because there was resistance, they were rejecting it, they were rejecting it.

رافضوا اصلاً من المستشفى ان انتي تولد زمالة

They refused at the hospital for you to give birth to a colleague.

مش مش اوريش اللي هناك

It's not clear what's there.

لا كانوا رافضين من المستشفى ان هما يدونا

They were not refusing from the hospital to give us.

ما انت بتتفرغ تقريباً كاملاً او بتعمل انتداب كامل

How much time do you dedicate completely, or do you do a full assignment?

فحتى حاولت اللي انا اخذ اجازة علشان خاطر مثلاً

"I even tried to take a vacation for the sake of, for example,"

اللي انا برضو يعني عشان خاطر اروح لزمالة

What I'm also doing is for the sake of going to a fellowship.

اترافضت يعني اترافضت during الاجازة

"I was rejected, I mean I was rejected during the vacation."

يعني طلعت اجازة رعاية طفلة هو يعني

It means I got a childcare leave, which means...

ما تقول شفاء القوة وحاجة للعمل لا تسمح وكام ده كله

What do you say about the healing of strength and the need to work that does not allow it, and what is all this?

لا برضو اترافض يعني

No, it was also rejected.

وده علشان خاطر الاجيال برضو الصغيرة تعرفوا

This is also for the sake of the younger generations to know.

ان هما محظوظين على فكرة

They are lucky, by the way.

احنا كانوا بيتقطع الورق في وشنا

We were having paper thrown in our faces.

بيتقطع الورق ثلاث مرات في وشنا ندخل نقدمه

The paper gets cut three times in our face, we come to present it.

اللي احنا عايزين ناخد حاجة بوز سيجرات ما كانوش بيوفقوا

What we want is to take something strong; they weren't agreeing.

ده حقيقة حرفياً يعني

That's literally the truth.

فنزلت تاني الشغل وخلاص قلت خلاص مش هينفع بقى اللي انا بدي

So I went back to work and I said that's it, what I'm giving is just not going to work anymore.

clinical اللي انا كنت عايزة اعرفه وعايزة ادرسه

The clinical aspect that I wanted to know and study.

وعايزة اطبقه في الماكين يعني

"I want to apply it on the machine, meaning."

فتجهت للادوات

So I turned to the tools.

يعني انا عكس الناس يعني ابتديت ادارة

It means I am the opposite of people; I started management.

ابتديت ادارة اخدت ادارة او ابتديت سنة 2012 بقى

I started management, I took management, or I started in 2012.

مع اتحاد الطباء العرب

With the Union of Arab Doctors

كانوا عاملين دبلومة ادارة professional دبلومة

They were doing a professional management diploma.

تبقى تقريباً مدرتها سنة ونص كده

It will last about a year and a half, something like that.

ودي كانت ألطف تجربة انا حقيد بدت بيها يعني

It was the sweetest experience I've ever had.

شفت ناس مختلفة كنت احنا كنا اتنين صيدلة تقريباً او ثلاثة صيدلة بس

I saw different people; we were only two or maybe three pharmacists.

الباقي كان كلهم مديرين

The rest were all managers.

في قلب اقطاعات مختلفة

In the heart of different sectors.

مستشفيات مختلفة

Different hospitals

كمان مستشفيات مختلفة يعني صحة

Also different hospitals mean health.

حاجات تتبع الامانة كلام ده كله يعني

"Things that follow trust, all of this talk means."

فكان كان جميل

It was beautiful.

وابتدينا بقى تاخد ايه

We started to take what?

يعني تاخد experience من الناس دي

It means you gain experience from these people.

وتشوف الناس بتفكر ازاي وكده

"And you see how people think and all that."

فابتديت دلأول يعني افوكس اكتر على المانجمنت

So I started focusing more on management.

صدفة

Coincidence

ابتدا انا احنا بنعمل

We are starting to do.

projects يعني انت بتنتحن جزء نظرية

"Projects mean you are discussing a theoretical part."

وتنتحن جزء projects

And part of the projects is being implemented.

وكلام ده كله فجينا في final

All of this talk came up in the final.

خلوني انا

Let me be.

physicians خلوني

Physicians, leave me alone.

انا pharmacist كنت موجودة كنت صغيرة شوية

I am a pharmacist. I used to be there when I was a little younger.

يعني اللي هو انت

It means you.

انت تمسك project ده

You are holding this project.

انت بقى فكر يشوف يتعمل لنا project ايه

You should think about what kind of project we can do.

ودنيا ايه

And what is the world?

وتبتدي تعمل دراسة جدوى وتعمل

And you start to conduct a feasibility study and do...

SWOT analysis اللي انت درسته strategic planning

SWOT analysis that you studied in strategic planning.

وكلام ده كله طب ايه

What does all this talk mean?

فا استرجعت حلمي

So I reclaimed my dream.

اللي انا اعمل clinical pharmacy قلت

What I do is clinical pharmacy, I said.

اعمل project

I am working on a project.

اللي انا عايزة اسس

What I want to establish.

clinical pharmacy department في المستشفى ما انا فيها

I am not in the clinical pharmacy department at the hospital.

و SWOT analysis

And SWOT analysis

بتاعها ازاي والتوصي ازاي

How do you do it and how is the recommendation?

وكلام ده كله

And all this talk

وكان في حضور بقى كل طبعا

And everyone was present, of course.

الدفع ومدير

Payment and manager.

انبعاد وناس كتير

Distancing and many people.

وبعدين لقيت

Then I found...

بعد ما خلصت الpresentation

After I finished the presentation.

سألت هو project ده موجودة على

I asked if this project exists on.

ارض الوقع فانتي

The land of destiny, so you are.

جايبات قلت لنا فقلت لهم لا

I said to them, "No."

it's my dream اللي انا اعمله

It's my dream that I do.

على ارض الوقع بس

On the ground of reality, just.

يعني فيه obstacles موجودة

It means there are obstacles present.

فلاقيت مديري ماخد

I met my boss who was angry.

انا واقف سقف لي

I am standing, roof for me.

قال لي يا بنتي

He said to me, "O my daughter."

احنا صدقنا ان ده موجود

We really believed that this exists.

why انتي ما تقدرش تطبقيه

Why can't you apply it?

عندك لا جواهد انتي

You don't have evidence, do you?

عملها بشكل حلو جدا

She made it very nicely.

جدا يعني انتي

It means "very much, I mean you."

يعني انتي نقلت لنا وكأنه

It means you conveyed to us as if...

real فاحنا من قدر ما هو real

So we are as much as it is real.

ولانتي بتقولي حاجات منظمة

And you are saying organized things.

جدا why not

Very why not

قلت لهم يعني

I told them, you know.

لا you have to fight for it

No, you have to fight for it.

ومن هنا كانت الشر

And from here came the evil.

رجعت بقى طبقتيها على طول

"I went back and applied it immediately."

رجعت بقى كلمت مع مديرتي

I went back and talked to my manager.

ربنا وهبني ان انا يكون عندي

My Lord has granted me to have.

حد يعني

What does it mean?

يعني متعاون معاك

It means cooperating with you.

قلت لها

I told her.

احنا نحاول نحط الدنيا

We're trying to make things better.

على يعني نحاول ناخد

It means "So we try to take."

a few steps

a few steps

قلت لي go ahead شوفي انا قدر اساعدك في ايه

You told me "go ahead, let me see how I can help you."

طب رجعنا للأصل ايه انا عايزة

So, back to the original, what do I want?

يكونوا مخرجين

They will be directors.

ما كانش لسه بقى حاجات خارجين

There were still things that were coming out.

clinical وما الا زال

Clinical, what is still?

ماخدين اي حاجة post grad

Are you taking anything post-grad?

clinical diploma board

clinical diploma board

كان لسه برضو

It was still too.

كان في الاول كده requirements يعني

At first, it was like that, requirements, you know.

بسيطة بقى بس نلاقي ناس

It's simple, we just need to find people.

يعني نلاقي ناس ما كانش فيه

It means we find people who weren't there.

طب عايزة اي حد مفيش

Well, I want anyone, but there is no one.

مفيش حاجة اسمها clinical

There is no such thing as clinical.

هيتعامل وما ده ناشت

He will deal, what a mess!

ما كانش فيه اي support من الادارات

There was no support from the administrations.

يعني فوق في القصر

It means above in the palace.

ان هو هي

He is she.

هيمدوني اداريا

"They will support me administratively."

او فنيا بناس نبتدي

Or technically, let's start with people.

نشتغل ونعمل على الارض

We work and strive on the ground.

يعني

It means.

طيب برضو جملة مدير المعهد

Okay, also the sentence of the institute director.

لسه في دماغي ولان

Still in my mind, and now.

كان فيه ناس كتير موهودة

There were many people present.

ودعوا سقفولي

And they said goodbye to my roof.

وبسطوا جدا من project وطلعت على فكرة

They simplified the project a lot, and I came up with an idea.

بيضاويه الرابعة على الدفع

"Fourth oval on the payment."

في ال professional

In the professional

diploma دي

diploma this

طيب يعني i want to fight

Okay, I mean I want to fight.

يعني اه نجرب

It means, "Yeah, let's try."

اه اتفقت

Oh, I agree.

مع مديرتي ان احنا هنروح

With my manager that we are going to go.

الادارة المركزية بتاعة السياطلة

The central administration of the tourists.

وننزل اعلان ان احنا

"We will issue an announcement that we..."

عايزين انتداب

We want an assignment.

لمن هم حاملي دراسات عالية في

For those who hold advanced degrees in

مجال الclinical

Clinical field

برا القصر عينيا هون فكرنا برا

Outside the palace, my eyes were here, we thought about it outside.

الصندوق وهي قالتلي

"The box, and she told me."

اوكي وجابتلي موافقة من الادارة

Okay, and she brought me approval from the administration.

ان احنا عايزين انتداب

We want a delegation.

ومن هنا

And from here

ابتديت بستة

I started with six.

دايما انا قادي من فضلي

I'm always the best, thanks to me.

ديهم على فكرة ويعني قاعدوا معايا

"They have an idea, and it means they stayed with me."

nearly سنة او عشر شهور

nearly a year or ten months

but هم ابتدوا معايا

But they started with me.

ابتدينا احنا كنا بنلطش

We started out by messing around.

لان ما كانش في الوقت ده

Because there wasn't at that time.

سنة 2012 13

Year 2012 13

كانش في حد عنده لا system

There was no one who had a system.

ولا خريطة ولا

No map nor

pathway ابسط حاجة لسمارتفون

The simplest thing for a smartphone.

اللي عليه دلوقتي resources

What I have right now are resources.

اللي انت تعرف تنزل عليها

"The one you know how to download it on."

guidelines والاي حاجة انت عايزها

guidelines and anything you want.

بقى اه

"Yes, it's remained."

عايز

I want.

immunograph بتاعة drug ازاي

How is the immunograph of the drug?

اصلا ما كانش عندنا

We didn't have it at all.

حكاية اللي انت تبتدي تعرف

The story that you are starting to know.

dosing ازاي اصلا

How is dosing actually done?

بتاعة drug انت مش موجودة عندك

The drug you are talking about is not available with you.

او كلام ده كله طب ايه

What does all this mean then?

precautions ايه الwarning اتعامل معايا

What are the warnings to deal with me?

ازاي في الاطفال

How are the children?

لان احنا برضو اطفال ويونيس

Because we are also children, Yunis.

ما كانش ده موجود خالص

This was not present at all.

يعني 2012 2013

It means 2012 2013.

بقى الهوى ده

This love remains.

ما كانش موجود تماما

It was not there at all.

اي حاجة يعني

What does that mean?

to guide you انت مش ازاي

To guide you, you're not how?

لا اداريا ولا على مستوى التكنولوجيا

Neither administratively nor at the technological level.

فكننا بنلطش مع بعض

Let's hang out together.

بداتوا word ولا رعاية

You started word or care.

وهبوس بقى ابتدينا رعاية

And Hoobos, we have started the care.

انت you have to choose

You have to choose.

بس يعني احنا

But I mean we

ابتديت بتلات رعاية

I started with three care services.

هما الستة كانت اتنين مع بعض

They were six, two of them were together.

وهما كانوا معاهم كلهم board

And they were all with them on board.

كانوا كلهم معاهم

They were all with them.

american board

American board

يعني ده

This means that.

يعني ده اللي برضو اللي حطته

It means this is also what you put.

بعد كده بعد كده

After that, after that.

لانا مش هياخد بالناس اللي

Lana will not care about the people who...

عشان دايما بتهاجم انت دي

Because you're always attacking this.

ما بتاخديش ناس american board يعني

You don't take people with an American board, right?

لاني هما كانوا ذاكروا

Because they had studied.

نظري

My theory.

بس

Just.

ما شافوش عيان قبل كده خالص

They haven't seen a patient like this before at all.

ما يعرفوش اي حاجة

They don't know anything.

نقول لهم البشنت الفايل

We tell them to open the file.

نجيب بقى نتذكر مع بعض

Let's remember together.

او نعمل نجيب الفايل

Or we work to get the file.

نعمل طب الcase for up sheet

We work on the case for the up sheet.

اللي انت شايفها دلوقتي دي

What you are seeing now is

كانش حد عارف يعملش بيها ازاي

No one knew how to use it.

اصلا قبل كده يعني قبل حتى

Actually, before that, I mean before even...

بقى ينزلوا مجموعة

They keep bringing down a group.

ناس الدكتور محمود

Dr. Mahmoud's people.

المهداوي الدكتور نرمين صبري

Dr. Nermine Sabri Al-Mahdawi

يعني ارجو

It means "I hope."

ما يكونش خلني اذكر بعض الناس كمان

Let me mention some other people as well.

ابتدوا ينزلوا زي القص

They started coming down like the rain.

كده زيته

Like this, I put oil.

practice of clinical pharmacy

ممارسة الصيدلة السريرية

طب احنا هنتطبق علينا

So we're going to be subjected to it?

هنعمل اي جديد عليها ما انت لازم

What new things will we do on it? You have to.

تعمل تيلورينج برضو على

Turing is also working on

needs و demands بتاعة المستشفى عندك

The needs and demands of your hospital.

فابتدينا

So we began.

نقص ونلزق ونشيل ونحط

We cut, stick, remove, and place.

كل شوية حاجات ونعمل

Every little while we do things.

نعدل فيها لغاية

We adjust it for a purpose.

ما يعرفنا نخلي الكيس والأبشيت

What we know is that we leave the bag and the belongings.

بتاعتنا احنا

It's ours.

تبقى more applicable علينا

It remains more applicable to us.

وابتدينا بقى

And we started now.

بقولك نلطش كتير بقى يعني

I'm telling you, we get into a lot of trouble then.

ابتدينا احنا ماشيين صح لا احنا

We started walking right, but we are not.

ماشيين غلط نبتدي نشوف اي

We're going the wrong way, let's start to see what's next.

شركة اي شركة لو سمحت

Which company, please?

اشترلنا username و password

Buy us a username and password.

للليكزي اه والله ما كانش

For the lexicon, oh by God, it wasn't.

فيه عارف بقى كوبيترات بتاعة صخر

There's someone who knows about the tablets of Sakhr.

دي زمان بقى يعني اللي هو

"Those were the days, you know?"

مش حتى الكوبيترات اللي هو

Not even the copies that he is.

عايزين نوصل والنت

We want to connect to the internet.

ازاي ونجيب USB كده

How do we get a USB like that?

Vodafone ولا ما كانش بقى اتصالات

Vodafone or it wouldn't have been Etisalat.

بقى وكان ولا أورج كان

It remained and was, nor did it continue.

موبنيل Vodafone وموبنيل

Mobinil Vodafone and Mobinil.

والكلام دا كله علشان خاطر

All this talk is for the sake of.

نشحنه علشان خاطر

We are shipping it for the sake of...

وكان على عايزة اقولك تصوير

And I wanted to tell you to take a picture.

الورقة كان على حسابنا وعلى حساب

The paper was at our expense and at the expense of...

مديرة الصيدلية

Pharmacy manager

الشحن الـ USB دا

This USB charging.

كان على حساب مديرة الصيدلية مع عشان كده

It was on the account of the pharmacy manager, that's why.

بقولك انا قادينا لها بالفضل انها

I'm telling you, I have been able to do this thanks to her.

she believes and

she believes and

يعني و she supports

It means "and she supports."

وهي كانت شيء

And it was something.

للموضوع from the beginning

For the topic from the beginning.

انا دايما كنت اقول لها انت زجاج موضع دكتورة ايمان

I always told her, "You are a glass, Dr. Iman."

يعني ولا تنسوا اهلا

It means, "And don't forget hello."

بفضل she is the one

Thanks to her, she is the one.

يعني والستة دول

I mean, what about these six?

ابتدينا مع بعض يعني

We started together, I mean.

لو يعني لو يعني لو

If means if means if.

ينفع اقول اسمائهم

Can I say their names?

انا دايما قادينا لهم بالفضل ان هما ابتدينا

I always owe them the credit for starting us.

ومكناش عارفين

And we didn't know.

اي حاجة وكانوا بيستحملوني

Anything and they were tolerating me.

لانا يعني ايه

What does Lana mean?

عارف ان هو ايه زي اللي بتسوق كده لا لا لا

I know it's like someone driving like that, no, no, no.

ايمين لا لا لا شمال

Right, no, no, no, left.

نفو ورق عثاني

I do not want to be a burden.

يعني from the

It means "from the."

كنت كل شوية برضو انت ما انتش عارف

I was just saying that you still don't know.

تقف على ارض سبتة

You stand on the land of Ceuta.

وبعدين انا

And then I

from the beginning انا دايما

From the beginning, I am always.

بقمن ان هو انا ما بحبش

I can’t say I don’t love him.

يبقى عندك

It stays with you.

وانت دايما تسمع الجملة دي مني

And you always hear this sentence from me.

هو مش شرط ان انت تبقى ناجح

It is not necessary for you to be successful.

كتير يعني يبقى بقاش عندك عشرة

It means that you shouldn't have ten.

انصاص انت ناجح فيهم

You are successful in them.

طوبة واحدة انت ناجح فيها وابني عليها

One brick, you are successful in it, and build upon it.

احسن من عشرة طوب متقصر

Better than ten short bricks.

فا كنت دايما حابة ان

I was always wanting that.

احنا لا يعني مش هتتنقل للمستوى

We don't mean that you won't be promoted to the next level.

الاعلى او مش هننتشر

The higher or we won't spread.

غير لما نبقى خلاص احنا

Unless we finally become us.

100%

100%

stable وخويسين

Stable and good.

واخدنا potentiality

And we took the potentiality.

to move on بعد كده

to move on after that

فا

So

دا كان البداية يعني

That was the beginning, you know.

انا عايز اقف شوية عند البدايات بقى

I want to pause a bit at the beginnings.

انت حظك كان حلو

You had good luck.

انو ما كانش فيه resistance من

There was no resistance from

من مديرة الصيدلية

From the pharmacy manager.

لكن كان فيه resistance اعلى

But there was higher resistance.

صيدلة الصرف

Pharmacy dispense

زميلنا صيدلة الصرف

Our colleague in pharmacy dispensing.

دا برضو لازم ادين اليهم بالفضل

I must also credit them for their favor.

اللي كانوا موجودين لان اغلب زميلنا اللي

Those who were present because most of our colleagues who...

حاولوا ينشئوا قسم

They tried to establish a department.

كان اول حد بيبدأ يرزست

He was the first person to start doing something.

صيدلة الصرف

Dispensing Pharmacy

دا برضو لازم اشكرهم

I also have to thank them.

لانو في حد جاي من بره

Because someone is coming from outside.

يشتغل كلينيكا

He works in a clinic.

طب انا عايز اقولك حاجة انا اصلا كمان

Well, I want to tell you something, I also...

قصتي قصة غريبة انا جاي من بره

My story is a strange one; I come from abroad.

لان هو الاسر ايني مجموعة

Because it is the family group.

مستشفيات فانا اصلا كنت جوه

I was actually inside the hospitals.

الاسر ايني بلف قبل ما سافر وارجع

The family is waiting for me to pack before I travel and come back.

فانا جيت لهم انتداب

I came to them for a nomination.

يعني انا هو طبع الاسر ايني

It means I am the nature of the family, I am.

بس انا جيت لهم انتداب

I just came to them for a delegation.

ففيه ناس اوريدي زي ما نقول كده ولاد المكان

So there are already people there, as we say, the locals.

فانا هما يستقبلوني

So they are welcoming me.

وابقى واحدة منهم

And keep one of them.

وبعدين يشوفوني

"And then he will see me."

بتحرك كصيدلة الصرف

I move like a dispensing pharmacy.

انا كنت صيدلة الصرف

I was a dispensing pharmacist.

بلاس الفرينيكا يعني انا كنت

"Plas Al-Firiniqa means I was."

ما كانش كمان زمان فيه اماناء اوهد

There weren't any safe keepers back then either.

يعني انا كنت امينة الوهدة

I mean I was the secretary of Al-Wahda.

وبسؤول عن الصرف

"And responsible for the spending."

عن الامبوليت والتلاجة

About the ambulance and the refrigerator.

وصيدلية العلاج

And the treatment pharmacy.

دا بلاس

Da Blast

الاكتيفاتيز اللي بحاول اقوم بيها

The activities that I am trying to do.

ازا كلينيكا فروميسي

If a clinic promises.

يعني لا كان

It means "it didn't happen."

شغل جامد وسترس

Solid work and stress.

والعيون بتبص عليك

"And the eyes are looking at you."

انت بتعمل ايه وانت نفسك

What are you doing and what do you want?

من جهة ما انتش عارف انت ماشي صح ولا غلط

On one hand, you don't know if you're going the right way or the wrong way.

وهتوصل ولا مش هتوصل

"Will you arrive or not?"

ولو صحي صحي دي

"If it were healthy, it would be healthy."

ولو غلط انت هتصلحه ازاي

And if I make a mistake, how will you correct it?

لان مفيش حاجة حد بيقول لك انت

Because there is nothing that anyone tells you.

تعمل ايه خالص

What are you really doing?

فعلشان كده انا دايما اقول

That's why I always say.

الاجيال الجديدة يا جماعة انتو مخزوزين

The new generations, guys, you are overwhelmed.

في نواحي كتير انتو جيتو

In many aspects, you have come.

لقيتو اماكن كتير بقت ستيبل

I found a lot of places that became stable.

بقى عندها سيستم

She has a system left.

بقى عندها كي بي ايز عندها ستاندرد اوت

She has KPIs and has a standard output.

براكتس عندها حاجات كتير عندها

Brackets have a lot of things in it.

تيمز فيعني

It means "Timz."

خدوا

Take it.

هنجيل الاجيال الجديدة دلوقتي

We will raise the new generations now.

طيب

Okay

الحظ انا كان حلو الحمد لله

Thank God, I had good luck.

مفيش ريزستانس من الصيادلة ولا من

There is no resistance from the pharmacists or from

مديرة الصيادلية وكانوا سابورت

The pharmacy manager and they were supporting.

لا وكانوا سابورتوا كان في حاجة كمان

No, and if they were supporting, there was something else too.

جميلة كان بتعملها الدكتورة

Jamila was being treated by the doctor.

ايمان ان احنا كنا بنعمل

Faith that we were doing.

scientific day every

scientific day every

once a week يعني فاهم

Once a week means you understand.

ازاي كنا بنعملو كل

How did we used to do it all?

اربع مثلا كان كلنا

For example, four of us were all.

بنعملها مع صيادلة الصرف

We do it with dispensing pharmacists.

يعني كانت الpresentation بتاعتنا

It means our presentation.

بنعملها مع صيادلة الصرف

We do it with the dispensing pharmacists.

عشان يشوفوا احنا بنحاول

So they can see that we are trying.

نعمل ايه وكنا

What can we do and we were?

بنتكلم في topic ايه ويتعلموا

What topic are we talking about and what will they learn?

ويستفيدوا بضبط انت

"And they benefit from your control."

اشركتهم in a direct way

I included them in a direct way.

هم يبقوا part معيك

They stay part with you.

ما بقوش يحسوا ان هو ايه بالعزلة

They no longer feel what isolation is.

او بالغربة او ان هما

Either in exile or that they are.

يعني underestimated او مالهمش لازمة

It means underestimated or not necessary.

بالعكس هما ابتدوا

On the contrary, they started.

تشاركهم ويشاركوك

They share with you, and you share with them.

ويقولوا لك اه دا دا ودا على فكرة

And they tell you, "Oh, this and that, by the way."

دا عندنا يا دكتورة فلانا

This is with us, Doctor so-and-so.

الكازة بتاعه او بديل او ناقص

His case or alternative or missing.

فخلي بالك وانتي بتوصو فيك

So be careful while they are delivering you.

كتا يعني فبقوا involved

What does it mean, so they stayed involved?

فبقوا involved

They remained involved.

during الاستبلشمنت دا

during the establishment day

تم انا جايبها ناس

I brought it, people.

معهم american board

They have an American board.

وانا اخد او يعني كنت بصدد لنا

I took it or I mean I was about to.

خلاص بفنش الدبلومة

I finished the diploma.

كان لساني بقى الامتحان

My tongue was stuck in the exam.

طب انا عايز

Well, I want.

انا ادرس ما هو اي حاجة في الحياة

I study everything in life.

انا مؤمنة انها تيز ان art and science

I believe it is a fusion of art and science.

فانت لازم تاخد science بتاعها بقى

So you have to take her science then.

فاشتركت

So I subscribed.

في

In

professional clinical diploma برضو تبعهم

Professional clinical diploma is also theirs.

كنت اول دفعة برضو

I was also in the first batch.

فبقيت

So I remained.

ادرس ال clinical diploma

Study the clinical diploma.

during

خلال

اللي احنا بنحاول

What we are trying.

نمشي في

We walk in.

الاستبلشمنت

The establishment

دا جنب

This is next to.

بتاعتي اللي هي انا امينة

"My thing, which is me, is Amina."

ومسؤولة عن صرف وكل دا

"And responsible for dispensing all of that."

وكنت بروح البيت احاول

I would go home trying.

اقرأ واحاول اوصل

Read and try to reach.

ماكنش على فكرة النات برضو

It wasn't about the idea either.

الارض دا موجود

The earth is present.

الحياة الرفاهية دي وسمارت فونز

This luxurious life and smartphones.

دي ماكنش موجودة

This wasn't available.

بالصورة دلوقتي فاهم ازاي

In the picture, do you understand how now?

والوصول للمعلومة

And accessing the information.

ماكنش برضو سهل زي دلوقتي

It wasn't as easy as it is now.

فكنت احاول كنت اتواصل

I was trying to communicate.

مع ناس مثلا برة ممكن

With people, for example, outside it might be possible.

تبعتولي شكل الورق مش عارف

They sent me the shape of the paper, I don't understand.

ايه طب شكل الكذا

What does that look like?

فبتديت ان انا ايه

So I started to...

احاول برضو ان انا اعمل

I also try to do.

my own research سواء على مستوى

my own research either at the level of

المنجريل او على

The grill or on.

مستوى التكنيكال

Technical level

علشان خاطر يعني يبقى فيه

So that there will be something.

integration for work فبتديت ادرس

Integration for work, so I started studying.

سنة 2013

Year 2013

professional diploma في

professional diploma in

clinical pharmacy وخلصتها

clinical pharmacy and I finished it.

برضو الصدفة الجميلة

Also the beautiful coincidence.

او يعني بص ربنا

Oh, I mean by God's will.

يعني وليس

It means "and not."

للانسان الا مساعة هو انت

The only support for a person is you.

بتحاول فربنا

You are trying to do your best.

يعني عاديلك هيوقف معاك

It means Adil will stand by you.

وتسألش ازاي

And don't ask how.

انا قادي اني ثاني واحد

I am able to say that I am the second one.

في حياتي برضو بعد الدكتور

"In my life, also after the doctor."

ايمان عبد المحسن اني

Iman Abdul Mohsen Ani

during the journey التي انا تعرفت

during the journey that I got to know

على الدكتور احمد ابو الهان

Dr. Ahmad Abu Al-Han.

كنت في

I was in

كان نقاط الجيزة

It was the Giza points.

كانت عاملة

She was a worker.

كانت عاملة زي ورشة عمل

It was like a workshop.

اه ليه

Oh why?

وبمناسبة الدكتور احمد ابو الهانا

On the occasion of Dr. Ahmed Abu Al-Hana.

استغلالنا الدكتور احمد ابو الهانا

We exploited Dr. Ahmed Abu Al-Hana.

في العجازة بتعرف

In the summer, do you know?

تعرفت عني

You got to know me.

حضرت الفترة تسي

The period has arrived, Tsi.

الدكتور احمد ابو الهانا

Dr. Ahmed Abu Al-Hana

من استغربين يعني من عمالقة

Who is surprising means who are the giants.

ال clinical في مصر

The clinical in Egypt

و بره مصر ومن المحاضرين

"And outside Egypt, among the lecturers."

في الجامعات بره مصر

In universities outside Egypt.

ف يعني هو حد تقل قوي يعني

So, it means he is someone very serious, right?

قال لي مني انا كل الاحترام

She told me, "You have all my respect."

والتقدير يعني

And appreciation means.

فخلي بالك انا مشيت

So be careful, I have left.

دنيا بقت معايا يعني كنا 2014 2015 كده فبقى لنا سنتين خلاص يعني

Dunya has been with me since around 2014 or 2015, so it's been two years now.

وتغير التيم بقى بطديت اجيب التيم. طيب في نقطة عايزين قبل من

The team has changed, and I started to bring in the team. Okay, there is a point we want to address before...

قبل من رحلة حسنا دخلنا على عشرين عشرين في الرحلة. لا لا لا

Before the trip, we entered on the twenty-twenty in the journey. No, no, no.

لسه لسه. احنا خلاص جزء الصيدلية او تيم الصيدلية زي

Not yet. We are done with the pharmacy part or the pharmacy team like...

الفل جزء اصعب الفيزيشن. اه اه انا كنت.

The flower is the hardest part of physics. Ah, ah, I was.

انا سوف اناس كانوا متعودين ما حدش بيقولوا انت تتعامل مع مين

I will deal with people who are used to not asking who you are dealing with.

انت بتتعامل مع استشاريين وملكة الاسر العين اه امبراطورية انا

You are dealing with consultants and the queen of the family, oh, I am an empire.

كنت مسمية المرحلة دي مرحلة نزع الاشواء. اه فعلا مرحلة اللي

I was calling this phase the phase of removing the thorns. Yes, it really is a phase where...

انت بتشيل الالغام لان كان مرحلة.

You are clearing the mines because it was a phase.

انت بتعرف. ومشكلة عندك حكتين. مش بس فزيشن. تمريض. انتم مين?

You know. And you have two problems. It's not just physics. Nursing. Who are you?

جايين تتعديلوا علينا? ولا جايين تقودت علينا? ولا جايين تشيلوا مننا

Are you coming to adjust us? Or are you coming to lead us? Or are you coming to take from us?

واللي جايين تبقى لكم يعني عارف ان هو ايه? ان هم في دايلمة? وانت

And what’s coming is meant for you, do you know what it is? That they are in a dilemma? And you?

كمان في دايلمة. فانا هو اه طبعا عايز اقول لك حاجة.

There's also a dilemma. So, yes, of course, I want to tell you something.

على فكرة. ودي حاجة ما ارجع قديم بها للدكتورة عمان عبد المحسن.

By the way, I want to take something back to Dr. Oman Abdul Mohsen.

لما قعدنا وابتدلنا هنعمل هنمشي ازاي? فكل واحد بنعمل انا وهي. اه

When we sat down and started discussing how we will go about things, each one of us is doing what he and she will do. Yes.

برضو حتة الادارة ساعدتني. لان اقول لها علشان خاطر نعرف نتواصل

The management part also helped me. Because I tell her so that we can communicate.

مع فزيشن والنيرسز. يتقبلونا. النيرسز في حكومة. اعرف اللي هو

With the physician and the nurses. They accept us. The nurses are in the government. I know what it is.

ايه? اه غصبا عنهم يعني. انت موجود. لكن انت شغلك هيبقى مين لي?

What? Yes, whether they like it or not. You are present. But who will your work be for?

عندن عندو ازا فزيشن. تمام? وانت شغلك مش هيأثر على النيرسز في حاجة

He has a physician. Is that right? And your work won't affect the nurses in any way.

بالعكس. انت يعني ايه? هتساعدها ان هو ما بقاش فيه اخطاء. وده هيهم

On the contrary. What do you mean? You will help her so that there are no mistakes. And this will matter.

يعني مش هتأثر فيه. لكن كونك ان انت هتبتدي تقول للدكتور ده فيه

It means it won't affect him. But since you are going to start telling the doctor this.

جايدلاين بيقول كزا كزا كزا. ان انت حاجة يا اوديتت يا حاجة موصلت

Guideline says this and that. You are either something, or you are something that has not been delivered.

بقش. يا حاجة كنت واخدها من باب هذا ما الفين علي يا اباؤنا. فيعني

This is a bit of a jumble, but it seems to roughly translate to: "Seriously. Oh dear, I was taking it from here, what is this on me, our fathers. So it means..."

هو احنا اكبرنا على كده وشفنا كده وهو حلو كده. فده هيبقى

We have grown past this and seen this, and it's nice like that. So this will be...

الديبيت الاكبر. فاقترحت عليها بس انا لاني كنت لسة صغيرة برضو

The biggest debate. So I suggested it to her, but I was still young as well.

مانيش انا عايزة حد يعلمهم كوميونيكيشن سكيلز. وده ما تسألنيش

I don't want anyone to teach them communication skills. And don't ask me about that.

ليه. يعني تسألنيش ليه سنة الفين وطلتاشر تقريبا واحدة بتتكلم

Why? I mean, don’t ask me why in 2013, someone was talking about it.

مع كوميونيكيشن سكيلز او السوفت سكيلز ان هو نبتدي بيها وكان اول

With communication skills or soft skills, we should start with it and it was the first.

حاجة عملتها للتين بتاعي. على فكرة انا ما دخلتش التين بتاعي

I did something for my figs. By the way, I didn't put my figs in.

على طول على الرعايات. انا ابتديت ادربه هو الاول او نتدرب مع بعض

Continuously on the pastures. I started training him first or we train together.

الاول على انا كنت بقى عاملة لهم انا كنت واخدها. اللي هو ايه?

The first one is that I was doing it for them, I had taken it. What is it?

الرعايات دي ايه المين ديزيزز اللي فيها بيدخلها. فانا ابتدي

What are the responsibilities and diseases involved? I will start.

نعمل يعني ايه? كده اللي هو.

What does "we work" mean? Like this, you know.

طيب. هل الهاب ولا الكاب ولا الفاب وكده. فابتديت اعمل

Okay. Is it the hab or the kab or the fab and so on. So I started doing...

بتاعتي اللي احنا هندخل يعني شوف فيها او انو نبقى مذاكرينها

My thing that we are going to go into, I mean look into it or that we should have studied it.

كويس. ونبقى ملمين بالمعلومات بتاعتها بشكل كويس عشان نبقى

Good. And we need to be well-informed about her information so that we can...

جاهزين. وجاهزين لأسئلة يعني معاهم انت مش هتدخل تجرب مع

Ready. And they are ready for questions, which means you won't be entering to try with them.

ما انتش عارف. فانت لازم تبقى مذاكر كويس قوي عشان كده كنت

You don't know. So you need to study very well, that's why you were...

الاول. انا والتين بتاعي قاعدنا بتاع شهرين تلاتة بنضرب نفسنا على

The first. My friend and I have been trying to motivate ourselves for about two or three months.

كل الحاجات اللي احنا هنفست في الفرعيات اللي هندخلها. وكل

All the things that we will discuss in the branches that we will enter. And everything...

الاسئلة اللي ممكن يعني تخطر على بالك. كان اسئلة من ناحية

The questions that might come to your mind. They were questions from a certain perspective.

دراكس. او من ناحية يعني الاتنين. يعني ما هو ما هو خلي

Drax. Or in a way, I mean both. I mean, it's not, it's not the same.

بالك. الدكتور شاطر جدا في منطقته. فعايز يسحبك عشان

He wants to pull you in because the doctor is very skilled in his field.

خاطر يقول له بص انت ما بتفهمش. وانت شاطر جدا في منطقتك. ده هو

Khatir tells him, "Look, you don't understand. You're very skilled in your area. This is it."

الفارماكولوجي والفارماسيوتيكس وما الى ذلك. فانت عايز تاخده

Pharmacology and pharmaceutics, and so on. Do you want to take it?

تقول له بص على فكرة انا شاطر في الحتة دي. بس اديني وبالتالي

She says to him, "By the way, I'm good at this. Just give me a chance, and I'll take care of it."

هنشتغل مع بعض بشكل حالي. فعشان خاطر تبتدي تعمل كده لازم انت

We will work together in a current manner. So in order for you to start doing that, you need to...

تزبط بيتك من جوة الاول. لازم انت تسترجع معلوماتك كلها. وتبقى

Organize your home from the inside first. You need to retrieve all your information. And be...

واقف على ارض صلبة. عند لان برضو كان كلهم صحيحين.

Standing on solid ground. At that time, they were all correct as well.

صغيرين. وانا يعني ما كنتش برضو يعني كبيرة. فانا برضو كنت

We were young. And I mean, I wasn't exactly grown up either. So I was also...

صغيرة لسه او ببتدي. فكلنا كنا عايزين ناخد. عشان تاخد لازم

It's still small or just starting. So, we all wanted to take. In order to take, you have to

تبقى شاطر. شاطر يعني انت متمكن من معلومتك. متمكن ازاي

Stay smart. Smart means you are proficient in your information. How are you proficient?

هتوصل معلومتك. وازاي هتتأكد اه يعني او ان المعلومة دي هتمشي

Your information will be received. And how will you make sure that this information will go through?

مع بشرة انت بتاعك. تاني كنت دايما كنا بنسمعها حتى يعني انا

"With your skin, you are yours. We always used to hear it, even I..."

سمعتها برة برة برة. انا بقول لك وانا

I heard it outside, outside, outside. I'm telling you, and I...

قلت في السعودية. كانت البولندية كانت تقول لنا على فكرة فيش

I said in Saudi Arabia. The Polish woman was telling us by the way there is no.

حاجة اسمها. وده دايما انا بقولها يعني بتاعة السنة دي اتلاقيها

There’s something called that. And I always say it, meaning you’ll find it for this year.

تغيرت السنة الجاية. واللي كنت بتقول لي لا. بتقول ده سنة جاية

Next year has changed. And what you were telling me “no,” you are now saying, “that’s next year.”

بيقول لك بص اه بقت هتقول ايه. فهو مش قرآن. فكان بتقول لنا على

He tells you, "Look, what will you say now?" So it's not the Quran. She used to tell us about...

فكرة اه فيش حاجة اسمها انت بتحاول بس انت زي ما العيان بيبديك

The idea is that there is no such thing as you trying; you are just like the patient who shows you.

انت بتروح وتيجي معاه. تمام? فانت كمان علشان خاطر تبتدي انت لازم

You go and come with him. Okay? So you also need to start for his sake.

تبقى عارف انت هتسوق يمين وشبان ازاي? انت لسه فادي برضو كانت

You still know how to drive right and how to maneuver? You're still free, too.

الصعوبة ان محدش ورانا او محدش لسه معك. يعني انت لسه بقى جاي في

The difficulty is that no one is behind us or no one is still with you. It means you just arrived in...

مكان جديد. فا قبل ما نبتدي ندخل انا اقترحت على الدكتورة ايمان

A new place. So before we start, I suggested to Dr. Eman.

اللي احنا عايزين حد يجي يدينا اه محاضرة.

What we want is for someone to come and give us a lecture.

كلنا كده حلوين مع بعض في قاعة. ونورسيس وفارماسيس عالكوميونيكيشن

We are all nice together in the hall. And Narsis and Pharmasis are on the communication.

سكيلز. وهاو تو ديل وهاو تو ديز ازاي? ازاي? ازاي انت تمتص غضبه

Skills. And how to deal, and how to do that? How? How do you absorb his anger?

والرزستنس بتاعه ده شكل بحيس ان هو يبقى حليفك وهو ممكن يبقى عدوك

And this resistance of his seems to me to be an ally, but it could also be your enemy.

بس هو حليفك معك. وازاي ان انت تكسب بعد كده في صفك وتبني

But your ally is with you. And how you will win later on your side and build.

وتبني. ويبقى هو بعد كده اقرب الاقربين ليك واللي هو يعني خلاص

And it builds. And he will remain the closest one to you after that, which means it's done.

ما يعرفش يشتغل من غيرك. وفعلا كان اول حاجة في البروجرام لنا كان

He doesn't know how to work without you. And indeed, the first thing in the program for us was...

الكميونيكيشن سكيلز. كان مع دكتور لو يعني لا يا خون اذا كان

Communication skills. I was with Dr. Lou, which means no, it's not deceptive if it was...

اسمه شريف حمدي تقريبا يعني. طيب. ودي كانت البداية. لما بدأنا

His name is Sharif Hamdi, roughly. Good. And that was the beginning. When we started.

بقى اخدنا الكميونيكيشن سكيلز وظبطنا نفسنا وبقالنا شهرين تلاتة

We improved our communication skills and have been working on ourselves for two or three months now.

عمالين. ندار.

Workers. We have.

انتدينا ندخل بقى. دخلنا بقى الرعاية. آآ كان فيه تو جروبس.

We got invited to enter. We entered the care area. There were two groups.

فيه كانوا يعني وخاصة انه هم شافوا ده برا. فبالتالي هم جدا

They were, I mean, especially since they saw this outside. Therefore, they are very...

ومستعدين ان هم يعني يساعدوك ويرتدوا معك ويجربوا معك ويشوف

"And they are ready to help you, to engage with you, to try with you, and to see."

يعني ايه يشيلوا اي عواقك او اي اي حاجة ممكن اه تعطلك. كانوا

What does it mean to remove any obstacles or anything that could possibly delay you? They were.

حلوين جدا.

Very sweet.

جدا. يعني من الناس اللي كانت فعلا فعلا مش بس مرحبة كانت آآ عايزة

Very much. I mean, among the people who were really, really not just welcoming, they wanted...

تساعدنا واحنا نساعدها. آآ يعني كان في حلوة جدا دكتورة بسانت. آآ

She helps us and we help her. Uh, I mean, there was a very nice doctor in Saint. Uh

دكتورة بسانت آآ حلمي. آآ دكتورة بسانت آآ رائعة. يعني كانت من

Dr. Basant, um, is wonderful. I mean she was one of...

الناس اللي هي شافت وشافته في سبعة وخمسين. فبالتالي اللي احنا

The people who saw and experienced it in fifty-seven. Therefore, what we...

هنيجي آآ نطبقه هنا. فكانت يعني مرحبة جدا.

We will come and apply it here. It was very welcoming.

في دكاترة لا. يعني احنا كنا يعني كنا كنا من الطرد. كنا من

There are no doctors. I mean, we were, we were, we were being expelled. We were being...

الطرد. ومين اللي هيجي اعدله على على النواب بتوعي وهيجي اعدله على

The expulsion. And who is going to come adjust it with my representatives and come adjust it with...

بتاعه وايه الدوزز دي? جايبها منين? لا لا لا فيش دوزز دي. طب

What's that about and what are these doses? Where did you get them from? No, no, no, there are no doses here. Okay.

ادي الريفرنس لأ ما فيش. انا الريفرنس. انا المنع جوادي

"Here is the reference, but there is none. I am the reference. I am the prohibition, my horse."

ازيك. فيش بعد ولا قبلي. طيب آآ وبعدين. فآآ فكنا بنطلع برا

How are you? There's nothing after or before. Okay, um, and then? So, um, we were going out.

الرعاية نعيط. يعني او مش انا. كانوا يطلعوا برا الرعاية يعيطوا.

The care is crying. I mean, or not me. They would go outside the care and cry.

وينزلوا لي. احنا اضطردنا والدكتورة مش مرحبة ومش راضية

"They want to expel me. We have been expelled and the doctor is not welcoming and is not willing."

وبتاع. كنت ادخل. وده بقى. لان انت كان معاك ادارة. كانت عايزة

And the thing. I used to enter. And this became. Because you had management. They wanted.

يبقى فيه. ادارة المستشفى. مستشفى. لا. ما خلاص. خلصنا من

There is still the hospital administration. Hospital. No. That's it. We are done with.

مرحلة ادارة الصيدلية. ادارة المستشفى بقى. ادارة المستشفى آآ

Phase of pharmacy management. Hospital management remains. Hospital management, uh.

كانت آآ كانت ان يبقى فيه آه حاجة اسمها.

It was supposed to have something called.

تمام? فبالتالي هي قلت لا في كلينيكل هيدخل. خلاص بقيت انت

Okay? So she said no in clinical, so now it’s just you.

يعني واخد واخد جرين لايت ان انت تدخل. وبالتالي هم مش بيدهم

This means you have a green light to enter. Therefore, they are not giving it to you.

حاجة ان هم يعملوها. لكن بيدهم ان هم هيقرفوك. اه حالة الارف آآ

They need to do it. But it's in their hands that they will annoy you. Oh, the state of annoyance.

لا مفر منها. والتخنيء وآآ عايز اقول لك اه آآ عدم تصديقك في

There is no escape from it. And the deception, ah, I want to tell you, yes, ah, your disbelief in...

كثير من الامر والتشكيك في مصادرك والتشكيك

A lot of questioning and doubt about your sources and doubt.

في معلوماتك وامكانياتك. وهو ده اللي كان بيتحاولوا يلعبوا بيه على

In your information and capabilities. This is what they were trying to play with.

ولادي. والحل ايه بقى? آآ آآ انا كنت بديلهم السبورت النفسي جدا

My kids. So what’s the solution then? Uhh, uhh, I was providing them with a lot of emotional support.

وعشان كده كنا بديين ان احنا ايه? احنا من جوة احنا مرتبين آآ دولبنا

And that's why we were starting to, you know? From the inside, we have organized our closet.

مرتبين عواطفنا آآ مرتبين دماغنا كويس جدا آآ بشكل كويس قوي فعشان

We are organizing our emotions, and we are organizing our minds very well, in a very good way, so because of that...

كده حتى لو ابتدوا يتأثروا انا كنت برجع لهم البوصلة تاني معه

Even if they started to be affected, I was bringing the compass back to them again.

وخلاص احنا احنا مزبطين نفسنا. وعارفين اللي احنا هنواجهه. طيب

And that's it, we have taken care of ourselves. And we know what we are going to face. Okay.

على مستوى ما هو ده على مستوى ما هو ده على مستوى احنا. ايوة وخلاص

On the level of what this is, on the level of what this is, on the level of us. Yes, that's it.

ما هو انت دلوقتي في في مجموعة من رفضينك. ورفضين آآ يعني ايه

What does it mean that you are currently in a group that rejects you? And what does rejection mean?

التعامل الصح اللي احنا اتعاملناه معه. انا هقول لك آآ اه

The correct way to deal with him, that's how we interacted with him. I'll tell you, um...

حاول آآ معلومة لا لا لا لا. آآ الاول حاول اللي انت تبين لهم

Try, um, information, no, no, no, no. Um, first try to show them what you mean.

اللي انت صاحب الدفع وانت قطة. وده حقيقي على فكرة. انا داني

You are the one who is paying, and you are a cat. And that's true, by the way. I am Danny.

ما انا على فكرة على مستوى على مستوى على مستوى ادارة الصيدلية

I am not, by the way, at the level of pharmacy management.

انه لا احنا احنا هنمشي في بتاعنا وامره موجود وخلاص وخلاص انتهى

We will just go on with our business, and that's it, it's over.

ما هو بس انت لازم برضو تكسب ما هو انت اصلا انت ليه يعني تخلق

What is it, you just have to win as well, I mean, why do you even exist?

عدوات وبعدين انت لازم تشتغل معي. ازاي بقى نعمل اللي انا

Enemies, and then you have to work with me. How can we do what I am...

فاكرة بقى لانه الموضوع

I remember because the subject...

عندي كتير بس انا هقول لحضرتك حاجة. آآ الفيزيشن مش من مصلحته

I have a lot, but I will tell you something. Uh, the physician does not have his best interest in mind.

ابدا ان هو يخسر حياة. ما هو في الاخر دفع عهدته. اه. فهو يعني

He is not losing his life. In the end, he paid his debt. Ah. So he means.

ايه? آآ هيفضل مكابر. ان هو انا اللي كنت الكبطان الوحيد وانا

What? Ah, he will remain stubborn. It's me who was the only captain and I...

كميتي صحة او غلط هيك اتمشي وكلام ده كله. هو في عهدتك وكل

My quantity is right or wrong like this, and all this talk. It is in your custody and all.

حاجة. بط جيبني اللي انا ايه? يعني الحتة بتاعة الدوزنج

What do I need? What do you mean by the part about the dozing?

بتاعتنا. طب ايه رأيك نقولها? انا دخلتش معك خالص. انا مانيش دعوة

It's ours. So what do you think about saying it? I haven't gotten involved with you at all. I'm not concerned.

بالدياجنوزيس على فكرة. اه. انت العيان شخصته. انا ما عرفش

With the diagnosis, by the way. Yeah. You diagnosed the patient. I don't know.

اشخصه. العيان انت او يعني انا مانيش دعوة خالص مانيش دعوة به.

I don't know him. The patient is you, or I mean, I'm not involved at all; I'm not involved with him.

العيان انت ماشي على سبورتات. انا برضو مكانتكش خالص فيها. اه. يعني

You see, you're walking on sports shoes. I really didn't find your position in it at all. Yes. I mean.

مرحلة الاولانية كنت بقول لهم دحلاب دحلاب. احنا مش هندخل آآ

In the first phase, I was telling them "Dahlab, Dahlab." We're not going to enter, um.

لتارجت اي حاجة خالص تخص انا باتكلم في حتتي لانا بقول لك بقى انت

I want to target anything at all related to what I'm talking about in my area because I'm telling you now.

شاطر فيها. بتحاول تشغل انت تتجرجر مع مع الفيزيشن في منطقته

You're good at it. You're trying to keep up with the physician in his area.

لانه هيغرقك. اه. ده لسه. اه زبط جرعات. زبط الدنيا. اللي هي

Because it will drown you. Yes. This is still. Yes, adjust the doses. Fix the situation. The one that is.

البايزيك. البايزيك خالص. اه. اه الدوز. اه الدوز ايه مع انها

The basic. Totally basic. Yeah. Yeah, the dose. Yeah, what about the dose even though it...

قلت لحضرتك. بيقف بيقول مسلا او فيليكسي بيقول او في ساندفول

I told you. He stands up and says for example, or Felix says, or in Sandoval.

مسلا بيقول او كزا. فانت بتدخله بكزا مرات.

He says something like that. So you are entering it this many times.

مرجع من بره هو ما قلت لكش يا اي حاجة حضرتك. وبعدين بجيب لك

A reference from outside is what I didn't tell you, anything you want, sir. And then I'll get it for you.

الدوز المناسبة. وبعدين بقول لك طريقة. هو مش عارفها. وهي طريقة

The appropriate dosage. Then I will tell you the method. He doesn’t know it. And it’s a method.

بتاعتها علشان خاطر احنا عندنا وعايزين الاطفال دول برضو ايه?

It's for her because we have it and we also want these children, right?

يبقى يعني بيخمسوا فيه زي ما بنقول كده كذا علشان خاطر ما

They keep bargaining over it, like we say, for several reasons.

هدرش الموارد بتاعتي. وبالتالي انا عملت قسط كتير وما بوزتش

I wasted my resources. Therefore, I made a lot of effort and didn't succeed.

الموارد بتاعتي.

My resources.

فبتدأ يسمع.

So he started to listen.

لك. وابتدأ يقول لك اه طب ما اقول للممرضة بقى. طيب تيجي بقى

For you. And he started saying, "Oh, what should I tell the nurse then? Okay, are you coming?"

للنرس حضرتك وانتي بتسحقك. تعملي هتاخديها على عشرة سنتي مش

You're going to crush it. You're going to take it in ten centimeters, right?

على خمسة وعشرين. وبعدين تعملي بكزا علشان خاطر هيقعد معاكي في

At twenty-five. And then you'll do such and such because he will sit with you.

التلاجة على درجة حرارة كزا كزا. النرس ابتدأت تسمع معلومات

The refrigerator is set to a temperature of such and such. The nurse has started to receive information.

جديدة. كدش تعرفها. هي جاية المشرفة اللي قبل منها كان بتقول

New. Do you know her? She is the supervisor who was saying before her.

لها حل في خمسة وعشرين ورزاع العيان خمس شهورات. ده اللي

It has a solution in twenty-five and the eye's growth is five months. That's it.

تعرفه. لكن انت لما جدت تتأثر لها ان هو لا في عشر الاولانيين

You know him. But when you tried to affect him, he was one of the first ten.

وبعدين في خمستاشر وبعدين. شكلك فاهم. اه بالضبط شكلك فاهم يا

And then there are fifteen, and then. You seem to understand. Yes, exactly, you seem to understand.

وديانوسة يعني. اللي هو انت بتدي بتقول حاجة اه ما كانش سمعتها

"Wadianosah means. It's like when you say something you haven't heard before."

وبعدين بتقول حاجة كده محترمة. عارف ازاي ما هو ايه. بتاعك باتو

And then you say something respectable. You know how it is. It's yours, Batu.

وطريق تقديمك للمعلومة. هي دي اللي فرقت. اللي انت تعلمت. اللي

"And the way you present the information. That's what made the difference. What you learned. That..."

انت ازاي بتقول اتفضل وقلت طبق عملته بشكل شيك عشان

How are you saying "go ahead" and you said I made a plate in a nice way?

خاطر قدامك يعرف هيكل. ما قلتش والله انا عملت لك الاكل امسك

"Keep in front of you that he knows the structure. I swear I didn't say that I made you the food, take it."

اه يعني اعمل انت عايزه. هي دي يعني هو ده مين ايش هو. هاو اللي

Oh, so do what you want. What does this mean, who is this? Who is that?

انت تعرف تدخل وبشكل وبتدي من تحت يعني بتدي اكسب الاول

You know how to enter and in a way that starts from the bottom, meaning you start by earning first.

الثقة. فبتدينا بالحاجة اللي هم مش عارفينها.

Trust. So we begin with what they do not know.

الاستابيليتي اه دراج انتر اكشنز. اه دراج لاب انتر

The stability is in interactions. It is a lab for interaction.

اكشن. كده بتفوتهم. اه. دراج فود انتر اكشن. الحاجات توبي

Action. That's how you miss them. Yeah. Drag food interaction. The things are top.

كراشت ونوت كراشت. طب بتفوتهم. آآ الحاجات اللي تتاخد في الراية

"Crushed and not crushed. So you put them in. Uh, the things that are taken in the banner."

لإيه? والدنيا تمشي ازاي? طب انا هادي الانتي بايوتك ده وورا

Why? How is life going? Well, I’m going to give you this antibiotic now.

الانتي بايوتك التاني ازاي في السيرينج بامب. هعمل ولا ما

How about the second antibiotic in the syringe pump? Should I do it or not?

ينفعش وانكمبيتابيليتي دي ما كانش ويعرفوها خالص تماما. فبتديت

This doesn’t work and they didn’t know about this at all. So I started...

في الحاجة اللي انت في منطقتك دي انت معلم فيها بقى. بعد كده بتدي

In the need that you are in this area, you have become a teacher in it. After that, you give.

بقى.

He stayed.

على فكرة في بيقول لك يعني لو البيشنت ده واخد فاكسينيشن

By the way, they're telling you that if this patient has received vaccination.

المعين. ما تدورش غير بعد احداشر شهر. ايه ده ازاي الكلام ده?

The assistant. You only check after eleven months. What is this? How is this possible?

اه ما هو اصل جدول التطعيمات بتاع البيشنت اكيد اخد مش هنقدر

Oh, what is the origin of the patient's vaccination schedule? Surely he has taken it, we won't be able to.

ان احنا نديله هنا. هذيك كنت بتديله زمان فا احنا هنا هنعمل

We're going to give it to him here. You used to give it to him back then, so we're going to do it here.

له كزا كزا. تيدي يسمع لك في معلومة قد تكون فيتان. انت بتتعامل

He has this and that. Teddy listens to you about information that could be vital. You are dealing with it.

مع آآ فئات عمودية.

With vertical categories.

عمرية مختلفة. وبالذات من زيرو سنتين واكتر في فاكسينيشن فممكن

Different age groups, especially from zero to two years and above in vaccination, so it's possible.

اللي هو الفاكسينيشن ده ازاي يأثر لك على دواء غالي او يأثر لك

How does this vaccination affect an expensive medication or have an impact on you?

على البلام بتاعتك كلها. ويحصل لك ثيرابيوتك فالير. فانت بتنبهه.

On all your troubles. And you will have therapeutic value. So you are warning him.

بهدوء خالص. تدعى واحدة واحدة يبتدي يسمع لك. طيب على فكرة اه

Calmly. You call them one by one and they start to listen to you. By the way, yes.

واحنا بندي الادوية دي او دراكز دي اه ممكن يقع علينا الضغط. فهنتطر

We give these medications or drugs, yes, we might come under pressure. So we will have to...

اللي احنا نعمل كزا. اه.

What we do is this. Yeah.

انا كنت بشوف اه على ان هو بس ما كنتش عارف ان ده من الادرينالين او

I used to see it as just that, but I didn't know it was from the adrenaline or...

من او من الدوبامين او من كزا. على فكرة جراءات الدوبامين بتختلف.

Who or what is dopamine or something like that. By the way, dopamine procedures differ.

من كزا لكزا لكزا علشان خاطر ديها طريقة شغل مختلفة. ايه ده هو مش

From this to that to that because it has a different way of working. What is this, isn't it?

كل واحد لا مش كل واحد. طب النوتريشن اخبرها ايه? هتبتدي تقوله

Not everyone, no, not everyone. So what about the nutrition? What will you start telling him?

لاحسب الكالوريز مع بعض. طب نشوف هنديه

"Let's calculate the calories together. Let's see India."

ازاي? طب هنمشي ايه الجول بتاعنا? اه هنعمل ازاي? هنعمل ازاي?

How? What will be our goal? Yes, how will we do it? How will we do it?

هنسحب ازاي? هن. فبتدي يسمع لك. بتدي يحس ان هو عندك. صح? وانا عندي

How are we going to withdraw? So he starts to listen to you. He starts to feel that he is with you. Right? And I have.

بتاعي. وما تعارضناش مش. ده احنا بنكمل بعض عشان نمشي. وبالتالي

It's mine. And we don't oppose each other, no. We're just complementing each other so we can move forward. Therefore...

بقيت واخد في صفك. واخد في صفك. والبشانت بقى اللي انت بتعمله.

I remained on your side. I'm on your side. And the actions you are taking.

يسمعوا لك كانت مرحلة صعبة فيها جامد. صدقني كنت بجيب ولادي انا

They listened to you; it was a tough phase that was rigid. Believe me, I was bringing my children.

دايما بسامة السيد لاو. كنت بقول لك ولادي يعني. ولادي كنت بجيبه

Always with a smile, Mr. Lao. I was telling you about my kids, I mean. I used to bring my kids.

منع السلم بيعيطه. دايما. عايزة اقول لك بعد ثاني تلات شهر عملت

Preventing peace is a constant thing. I want to tell you that after two or three months, I did it.

تحركة. في مرحلة دكتورة اللي كانت عاملة. كنا بنكتب ده عادي. طبعا

It moved. In the doctoral phase that was happening. We used to write this normally. Of course.

أعطي لها نسخة قد كده قد كده بكمية الكلينيكال عملها في خلال هذا الشهر تفتكر كان إيه رد فعلها وقفت في وسط الرعاية جابت النواب إزاي الكلينيكال فارمسيست هي بقى ذكرته أنا أعطي لها نسخة يعني مسلمها لها ومغلفها لها كده ده الكلينيكال فارمسيست عملوا في رعاية هذا الشهر

I gave her a copy of the clinical work done this month. What do you think her reaction was? She stood in the middle of the care area and brought the deputies. How did the clinical pharmacist mention it? I gave her a copy, meaning I handed it to her and wrapped it up that way; this is what the clinical pharmacist did in care this month.

وعملت لها برضو عملية زي إيه الـ Propulsion اللي هو كم% مثلا كان دراج related problems دي دوزينج كم related للاب مونيترينج كم related side effects الـ Harm اللي وصل عامل إزاي والدنيا دي فتدت تشوف إيه ده

"I also performed a procedure for her similar to what the propulsion is, like what percentage related to problems of dosing, how related to lab monitoring, how related to side effects, the harm that has been done, and these things started to see what that is."

ده كمان مش بس عدله والدنيا حلوة وكويسة مع patient والدراج زي بقت كويسة واللا ده ده ده ده عايز أقول إيه

This is not just about fairness; life is also beautiful and good with the patient, and things have improved. What else do I want to say?

ده عامل

This is a factor.

للمشاكل موجودة عندي في النواب بتاعي ففي الأول كانت الهواء أول مرة سلمته عايز أقول لنا هزقت النواب اللي هو إزاي كليينيكا معايا دلوقتي لسه إيه في struggle يعني إزاي كليينيكا الفارمسيست ييجوا يعدلوا ده كله عليكم

I have problems with my deputies; at first, when I handed over the air for the first time, I want to say that the deputies are upset with how the clinic is treating me now. There is still a struggle, meaning how can the pharmacists come and fix all of this for you?

ما هو ده كان أخطأ وإحنا عدلناه صح ييجوا يعدلوا عليكم ده لا إحنا لازم مش عارف إيه تاني شهر لقيت برضو في نسبة interventions عالية وكلام ده كله

What is this? He made a mistake and we corrected it, right? They come to fix it for you, no, we have to... I don't know what else, I found also a high percentage of interventions this month and all this talk.

بدأت تتواصل معي

She started to communicate with me.

what is going on

What is going on?

طب إيه هي الproblems

So what are the problems?

اللي عندي النواب

I have the representatives.

مش aware بيها

Not aware of it.

وشفت بقى تتغير لغة الحوار

And I saw how the language of the conversation changed.

إزاي أستفيد منك

How can I benefit from you?

فاهم إزاي ما خلاص أنا دلوقتي

Do you understand how I am now?

كنت الأول opposing اللي أنا

I was the first opposing to who I am.

رفضت تماما فكرة وجودك

I completely rejected the idea of your existence.

وبعدين بقيت مضطرية لفكرة وجودك

And then I became dependent on the idea of your existence.

بقيت أسمع لك بس مش عايزة أنفذ

I kept listening to you, but I don't want to execute.

وبعدين لما أنفذت طلعت لي حاجات كتير

And then when I executed it, many things came up for me.

طيب

Okay.

why not اللي أنا أبتدي بقى أشتغل معيك

Why not, I should start working with you.

بدأنا نقعد ونعمل

We started sitting down and working.

awareness program

awareness program

للتمريد

For nursing.

فيما يخص الأخطاء اللي كانت تتكيل للتمريد

Regarding the mistakes that were attributed to the nursing.

و awareness program

and awareness program

للphysicians

For physicians

بقينا نقول لهم إزاي

We kept telling them how.

حاجات بقى كتير بقى كتير

There are many things now.

يعني بقاشينا في هذا موضوع كتير

It means we haven't discussed this topic much.

سواء كان من أول

Whether it was from the beginning.

how to choose the drugs

How to choose the drugs.

سواء كان antibiotics أو

Whether it's antibiotics or

يعني drugs

It means drugs.

عموما

In general

went to escalate

ذهب للتصعيد

ويجب أن نتعرف على

We must recognize.

وwent to the escalate

And I went to the escalator.

الantimicrobial stewardship يعني بشكل عموما

Antimicrobial stewardship generally means

وإيه precautions اللي خلي بنا منها

And what precautions should we take into account?

وإحنا مندي drugs دي

And we are giving drugs this.

تمام

Okay.

وابتدينا ندلهم كمان جزء nutrition

And we also started to guide them on the nutrition part.

how to calculate

كيف تحسب

ولو هتستخدم tpn

And if you are going to use TPN.

tpn إمتى أصلا تدي تطلبه

"When do you actually want to ask for it?"

تمام لأن مش من الأول ما يدخل لك

That's fine because it shouldn't have entered you from the beginning.

the patient يعني

the patient means

حاولت أخلي الجد يشتغل الأول يعني

I tried to make the grandfather work first, I mean.

أعمل كده زي challenge فهمتني إزاي

I do it like a challenge, you understand me?

وابتدينا ندلهم في tracks كتير

And we started to delve into many tracks.

طبعا إنت ممكن تكون درستها أو هم درسوها

Of course, you might have studied it or they studied it.

أو كده

Or something like that.

بس طالما إنت مش practice فنسيتها صح

But as long as you're not practicing, I've forgotten it, right?

أنت لما بتيجي تدلهم awareness تاني

When you come to give them awareness again.

وتشتغل معهم في practice

And you work with them in practice.

فابتدى إيه

So what started?

يسترجعوا المعلومة معاك

They retrieve the information with you.

وابتدوا يطبقوها معاك

"And they started to apply it with you."

فخلاص ف

So that's it then.

فعلا لو إنت كنت في الأول بتطلع ألف وشوية intervention

Actually, if you were at first getting a thousand and a little more interventions.

بدي تقل تقل تقل تقل

I want to say say say say.

تعالي تبقى 200-300

Come, let's stay for 200-300.

good achievement على فكرة

By the way, good achievement.

فمتنين إزاي

How do you feel?

وابتدت هي بقى تشوف اللي هو

And then she started to see what he was.

الكي بي آيز اللي يخصها هي

The key performance indicators related to her are.

as مديرة رعاية

as Director of Care

حاجة تانية ما إدارية

Something else, not administrative.

ابتدت تشوف

She started to see.

length of stay بتاع بيش

length of stay for Bish

بتاع أخباره إيه

What's the news about him?

immortality rate عامل إزاي

What is the rate of immortality?

bit turnover أخباره إيه

What are the news about Bit Turnover?

فمتنين إزاي

How are you feeling?

الاستهلكات وكلام ده كله

The consumables and all that talk.

ابتدت تشوف إن آه في progress

She started to see that there is progress.

في achievement حصل

In achievement obtained.

which means إلا ما إحنا اشتغلنا مع بعض

"Unless we worked together."

مع بعض

Together

وما حدش

And no one.

عايز أقول يزايد على دور التاني

I want to say he is competing for the other role.

لإن دي مشكلة مع clinical pharmaceutical

Because it is a problem with clinical pharmaceutical.

فتك إنه هو دي يعني

It's really him, I mean.

يعني تستعملها و upper hand في حاجات

It means you use it and have the upper hand in things.

لا إنت ما تزايدش على دورك

No, don't overdo your role.

إنت ديك دور وهو ليه دور

You have your role, and he has his role.

مكملين لبعض

We complete each other.

مكملين يعني دي إيد يمين ودي إيد شمال

"We are continuing, which means this is the right hand and this is the left hand."

ما فيش حاجة اسمها إيدي يمين

There is no such thing as my right hand.

لوحدها هتسقف ولا شمال لوحدها هتسقف

By herself, she will clap, or to the left, by herself, she will clap.

لكن مع بعض هنوصل لحل أفضل

But together we will reach a better solution.

المرحلة الأولانية دي

This initial stage

اللي هي الestablishment دي

What is this establishment?

من مرحلة الصفر

From ground zero.

لمرحلة الأطباء متعاونين معنا

The doctors' phase is cooperating with us.

أخرت تقريباً قد إيه

How long have you delayed?

على فكرة مش كتير

By the way, it's not much.

بس مش كتير

But not too much.

سنتين تلاتة أقل من كده

Two or three years, less than that.

خالص خالص خالص

Very, very, very sincere.

يعني أقل من ست شهور

It means less than six months.

أقل من ست شهور

Less than six months.

بص هنقولك حاجة دايماً أقول

Look, let me tell you something I always say.

الdocuments

the documents

تكذبش

Don't lie.

إنت لما حطتها قدام documents

You put it in front of the documents.

فابتدت الأول

So it began first.

أعرف اللي هو نظام لا لا لا ابني كويس

I know that it is a system, no no no, my son is good.

ابني شاطر وأمور

My son is smart and capable.

وما تطلعش منه العيبة

"And the defect does not emerge from it."

وبعدين تديت

And then you got tired.

إنت بتديلها documents

You are giving her the documents.

لا يبقى لازم نقف

We need to stand.

مع نفسنا ونشوف

With ourselves and see.

ونشوف إزاي تو

Let's see how you are.

صح لأني مش من مصلحتي

It's true because it's not in my interest.

إلا أنا أفضل أكابر

Except I prefer the elders.

إني ابني كويس صح

My son is good, right?

يعني لو هنسى مرايز كده النقاط اللي

It means if I forget like that the points that...

لو أي حد بيبدأ

If anyone is starting

قسم clinical لأول مرة

First time in the clinical department.

في المستشفى

In the hospital.

بس ده كان زماني غريب

But that was my strange time.

يعني كان زمان عصر

It means there was a time in the past.

الستيل لحد دلوقتي

Steel until now.

هو إحنا في الطاهرة الوضع افتلح

We are in Cairo, the situation has become difficult.

بس صدقيني في الأقاليم في معاناة كبيرة

But believe me, there is great suffering in the regions.

أوي أوي أوي

Oh oh oh

يعني بقولك ده مع أباطرة يعني

I mean, I'm telling you, this is with emperors, you know?

يعني يعني عارف الاستشارين

It means, you know the consultants.

الدنيا بره القاهرة وحشة جدا

The world outside Cairo is very unpleasant.

والله

By God

فالتبس اللي إنتي بتقوليها بكل بساطة دي

So the thing you're saying is quite simple.

اللي هو إحنا عدينا بكذا وكذا

Which is that we have passed through so and so.

والموضوع دلوقتي بقى

"And the subject has now become..."

في ناس لسه تحت الصفر

There are still people below zero.

في الأقاليم

In the regions

يعني لما بسافر الصعيد وكده

It means when I travel to Upper Egypt and so on.

لا يعني أنا أعتقد

It doesn't mean I believe.

وزارة الصحة بقت عاملة دلوقتي

The Ministry of Health has become effective now.

لا مش الصحة

No, it's not health.

التأمين الشامل والرعاية الصحية

Comprehensive insurance and healthcare

الجديدة النظام الجديد

The new system.

كله بيبوش جدا جدا

Everything is very, very messed up.

toward الclinical

toward the clinical

وبالعادة حتى كان زمانة على فكرة فيش حاجة اسمها التكريب جيني

And usually, even back then, there was no such thing as genetic engineering.

وتكون في الclinical

And it will be in the clinical.

لكن الناس اللي عندها المعاناة دي

But the people who have this suffering.

لو هنسامريز

If we do not get along.

الpoints دي

These points.

أول حاجة communication كويس

The first thing is good communication.

ما تبدأش غير وإنت مظبط نفسك علميا

Don't start unless you're well-prepared scientifically.

ابدأ واحدة واحدة

Start one by one.

ما تخبطش

Don't mess up.

وأهم حاجة من أول يوم

And the most important thing from the first day.

documentation

documentation

من أول يوم دي أهم حاجة

From the first day, this is the most important thing.

ومن غير documentation أنت ما عملش حاجة

Without documentation, you haven't done anything.

أنت هعمل لك plan

I will make a plan for you.

تبقى ماشي عليها

You keep walking on it.

أو flow short

Or flow short.

هو step number one أنا عملتها

It's step number one, I did it.

وتأكد أن أنا عملتها صح

And make sure that I did it right.

مستعجلش النجاح

Don't rush success.

يعني عايز أقول لك

I mean I want to tell you.

يعني أنت

It means you.

أنت مش بتسابق حد

You're not racing anyone.

صح

Correct

أنت بتحاول أنت تخلي المكان

You are trying to leave the place.

وإنت نفسك في المكان أحسن من مبارح

And you yourself in the place is better than yesterday.

هل

Is it?

هل النقطة دي

Is this point?

اللي أنت ذكرتها دلوقتي حالا

What you just mentioned now.

هي السر بتاع

It is the secret of.

أنه من بعد الست شهور بتقول establishment

"That after six months you say establishment."

في خلال مثلا سنتين ثلاثة

In about two or three years.

كان أبو الريش الياباني

The Japanese father of feathers.

مسمع جدا

Very loud

وأن ال team clinical أبو الريش الياباني

And that the clinical team of Abu Rish is Japanese.

من أفضل ال team

One of the best teams.

ومن أقوى ال team

And among the strongest teams.

أنا عايز أقول لك أن أي مرحلة كان فيها نجاح لأبو الريش

I want to tell you that there was success at any stage for Abu Al-Rish.

من أول ما بدأت لغاية دلوقتي

From the very beginning until now.

هم أولادي

They are my children.

يعني هم سر النجاح

They are the secret to success.

هم سر القوة بتاعتي

They are the secret of my strength.

from the beginning

من البداية

حقيقي يعني

It means "really" or "truly."

يعني أنا دايما قاضينا لهم بالفضل من كانوا معي

It means I always owe them favor for those who were with me.

في الرحلة ومن ظلوا معي

In the journey and those who stayed with me.

واللي هيجي بعد كده هيكمل على

And what will come next will continue on.

نجاحات السابقين

Successes of the predecessors

يعني كلهم كلهم

It means all of them, all of them.

يعني علشان خطر

It means "for the sake of."

يعني الناس كتير

There are many people.

يعني كلمة السر في ال team

It means the password in the team.

كلمة السر في اختيار

The password in choosing

ال team

The team

selection of team

Selection of team

لأن مش كل حد دخل

Because not everyone entered.

إزاي دكتورة جهنم طحاوي كانت بتختار ال team بتاعها

How did Dr. Jahannam Tahaoui choose her team?

بص أنا هقول لك حاجة

Look, I'm going to tell you something.

في حاجة اسمها qualified and certified صح

There is something called qualified and certified, right?

وزي ما بقول لك هو art and science

And as I tell you, it's art and science.

وانا سبقت كلمة ال art قبل science

"And I preceded the word art before science."

يعني صح

It means right.

art يعني ايه يعني

What does art mean?

ال skills بتاعتك موهبتك

Your skills are your talent.

ما هو مش كل اللي بيلعبوا الكرة محمد صلاح

Not everyone who plays football is Mohamed Salah.

صح كلهم بيلعبوا الكرة وكلهم في نوايا دي

Sure, they all play football and they all have those intentions.

بس مش كلهم محمد صلاح

But not all of them are Mohamed Salah.

وبما اني زي ما الكواهي مش كلهمش كبالة

And since I, like the coffee, am not just a mere cup.

بس أنا قصدي يعني ايه مش كلهم محمد صلاح

But what I mean is, not all of them are Mohamed Salah.

ومش كل الجراحيين مجدي هقوب

Not all surgeons are Magdy Hekoub.

صح ومش كل العلماء احمد زويل

That's right, not all scientists are Ahmed Zewail.

تمام

Okay

انا كنت بحاول استشف من اللي قدامي

I was trying to deduce from what was in front of me.

ايه نقط القوة اللي فيه

What are the strengths in it?

وايه ال opportunities اللي فيه اللي اقدر اللي انا اشتغل عليها

What are the opportunities in it that I can work on?

يعني وممكن انا بكشف سر ابو رشيد ايه

It means, "So, am I possibly revealing Abu Rashid's secret?"

اختياري للناس كان بيعتمد بشكل كبير جدا

My choice of people depended heavily.

ان انا على فكرة انا ما كنتش

Oh, by the way, I wasn't.

يعني اي حد كان بيجيلي

It means anyone who used to come to me.

ما كنتش بسأله اي scientific interview

I wasn't really asking him about any scientific interview.

ما عدا انت غريب يعني

Except for you, it's strange, I mean.

انا الوحيد اللي اتعصرت

I am the only one who got stressed out.

اتعصرت

I was squeezed.

بس بس حقيقة عشان اعرفك يعني

But it's true, just to let you know.

عشان كنت بضربك الاول وكنت عايزة اعرف انت التدريب وصلت

Because I was hitting you first and I wanted to know if you arrived at the training.

بس ال team يعني اي حد كان بيجيلي

But the team means anyone who used to come to me.

انا ارفض تماما تماما scientific interview

I completely refuse the scientific interview.

ما عرفش ليه برفضه

I don’t know why I am rejecting it.

بس اي حد هيبقى رايح interview هو عارف ايه

But anyone going to an interview knows what it is.

عارف ان هو داخل confirm interview هو هيا يحفظ الكتاب

I know that he is coming to confirm the interview; he will memorize the book.

سهله

Easy.

سهله تماما

It’s very easy.

انا بصراحه من مدرسة الميا كد بالغطاس

Honestly, I am from the Mya school, and I excel in diving.

هادي الجمال هاذي الجمال حاضرتك جراح هاذي الوحيد choreography

This beauty, this beauty, your presence is a wound, this is the only choreography.

اتفضل ادخل افتح

Please go ahead and open.

عارف استغurfي

Aref is confused.

مش عارف

I don't know.

بس خلصت

I'm done.

دايما دايما في اي interview او مقابلتي من الناس كنت بقولهم

I always, always in any interview or meeting with people, I used to tell them...

حاضرات بالنسبالي بتشكل ليه الامب

"Present for me, it represents the amp."

عمي Pearson

Uncle Pearson

انا باخدك وبحطك في فترة evaluation بشوفك انت بتنور على كام لو بتنور على 110 وهتديني هيبتدي تديني بصبر معيك لو انت على 220 بقى خلاص انت خلاص selected وهتدخل على طول

I will take you and put you in an evaluation period to see how you perform. If you shine at 110, you will give me patience. If you are at 220, then that's it, you are selected and will enter immediately.

اللي هو نص نص ده ببتدي اشوف بقى عنده skills عنده عايز اقول enthusiasm ان هو عايز يدخل المجال اصلا بعد كده الموضوع clinical فقد كتير يعني فقد كتير من باريكو

This text is about how I start to see if he has skills and if he has enthusiasm to enter the field. After that, the clinical aspect has lost a lot, meaning it has lost a lot from its former value.

الاول اه هنجلها بس انا بقولك يعني بس على اساس المرحلة لاني كنت في فترة كده كنت recruiter كمان يعني انا بجيب الناس وانا بقابل الناس

"First, I will handle it, but I'm just telling you based on the stage, because I was in a phase where I was also a recruiter, meaning I would bring people in and I would meet people."

بعمل interview

I am doing an interview.

وانا لسلكت وانا البطاقة فهمت ازاي فعمليت حقيق السلكشن دي من اصعب الحياة اكتر صفة كنت بتهتم انها لازم تكون موجودة في كل اللي يشتغل

"I did not go ahead and I understood how the card worked, so I applied this selection which is one of the most difficult in life. The most important quality you should care about is that it must be present in everyone who works."

الصفة الوحيدة والوحيدة على مدار الاثناشر سنة او يعني اكتر من عشر سنين الاتيوت انا لا اتراجع عن الاتيوت اطلقا هو باستف اتيوت الاثيكس موجودة

The only and sole characteristic over the past twelve years, or rather more than ten years, is that I do not back down from my attitude at all; it is absolutely my attitude that the ethics are present.

الفريم وورك بتاع الاتار الزمالة والاحترام والميوتور ريسبكت والان ايجو مش موجود احنا مع بعض هاند ان هاند وبنكمل بعض مش بنعالي على بعض ولا بنشوف مين احسن من مين وفي ناس الوقت ما يكونش في بخل في اعطاء المعلومة يعني برضو ان احنا بتعرف تعمل sharing وما بتبخلش على زميلك وبتساعد زميلك

The framework of camaraderie, respect, and mutual respect is present; there is no ego. We are together hand in hand, completing each other without looking down on one another or comparing who is better than whom. Sometimes, there's no stinginess in sharing information, meaning we also know how to share and do not hesitate to help our colleagues.

وترصدش على زميلك اخطأه علشان خاطر تبين اللي انت تبين يعني superior او اللي انت احسن او اللي انت افضل او اللي انت العلم الفيزياء يعني مش هنكسب حاجة احنا هنكسر في بعض قدام فيزيشن وهنكسر في بعض قدام الادارات وفي الاخر انت الخسران كدبارتمنت خسران مش كشخص خسران انت انت خسرت عندي يعني انت خسرت قدامي اللي انت بتكسر في مكان

"And don't monitor your colleague's mistakes just to show that you are superior or better, or that you know more about physics. We won't gain anything; we will just undermine each other in front of the physics department and the administration. In the end, you are the one who loses as a department, not just as an individual. You have lost my respect because you are undermining others in your workplace."

فالحاجة الوحيدة اللي كان يعني كنت دايما

"The only need that I always had..."

الجملة اللي هو الشطارة مكتسبة

The sentence is "The skill is acquired."

ستتعلم

You will learn.

الشطارة لو انت عندك

The skill is if you have it.

لو انت عندك

If you have

عندك

Do you have?

الاسرار وعندك الاراضة

The secrets and you have the will.

وعندك الرغبة

"And you have the desire."

في اللي انت عايز تكبر

In the night you want to grow.

وانت عايز توصل للطرق

And you want to reach the roads.

بتاعك اللي انت تبقى احسن وافضل

It's yours; you should be better and the best.

واكثر فهما للموضوع

And a better understanding of the subject.

فده مكتسب

It is acquired.

لكن الاتيوت

But the attitude.

البدأ

The beginning.

تبقى

Stay.

تبقى مكتسب

You remain an asset.

الاتيوت او كده

The attitude or something like that.

ده ملوش حال

This has no solution.

ده ملوش حال ده فانجر انفاكشن

This has no solution; this is a finger infection.

في المكان لو فضل موجود

In the place, if there is a preference for presence.

يبوز لي كل المكان

It ruins everything for me.

فالحاجة الوحيدة اللي كنت لا يمكن

"The only need that I could not..."

اقبل بيها

Accept it with me.

ولم اقبل بيها ابدا

And I never accepted it.

هو البدأ تيوت

He is the beginning of the testimony.

البدأ تيوت ده مش معناه شخصي طبعا

The beginning of this is not meant personally, of course.

قليل قدب

A little bit of patience.

بط في بعض الصفات

Duck in some characteristics.

الهادمة

The demolisher.

تقصر على الفريق

It shortens for the team.

انا ما بشتغلش في تيم وورك

I don't work in teamwork.

فرصة يعني

Opportunity means.

بص الاتيوت ده مش هيبان في ساعتها

Look, this attitude won't show up immediately.

طبعا يعني

Of course, I mean.

بس في علامات بتقول ان الشخص ده

But there are signs that indicate this person.

بس في علامات بتقول ان هو

But there are signs that say he is.

هي بمرحلة الاندر ايفالويشن دي

She is in the under-evaluation phase.

كنت بعمل برضو حركة لنا ايه

I was also making a move for us, right?

يعني اخليه اندر ايفالويشن

It means I'll keep him under evaluation.

علشان خاطر ما بقاش في بايز

So that there won't be any bias.

في الاساسمنت

In the cement.

طب علشان برضو ما نديش للناس انطباع

"To avoid giving people the wrong impression."

برضو واردي شوي

I'm also a bit upset.

اكيد كان في حد ادنى من الكواليفيكيشن

Surely there was a minimum qualification.

من السيرتيفيكيشن

From the certification

علشان خاطر يجوين التيم

For the sake of joining the team.

صح

Correct.

ولا بمجرد ان هو خلاص انت خريك سيضالة

"Not just because he is now free, you will be lost."

فممكن تكون معنا لو انت

So you could be with us if you are.

شاطر

Smart.

واتيوتك حر

And your youth is free.

يعني انت تقصد ايه

What do you mean?

يعني لازم مثلا حد ادنى بورد

It means, for example, there must be a minimum board.

اه طبعا لازم يبوست جرادوت طبعا

Oh, of course, they have to boost their morale, of course.

لا لا لا

No, no, no.

في حد ادنى الدكتور جهان كانت ما بتقبلش

Dr. Jihan would not accept a minimum limit.

باقل منه

Less than that.

اه اه

Oh, oh.

لازم يكون بوست جرادوت

It has to be a Gradot post.

يعني لازم يكون بوست جرادوت

It means it has to be a Gradot post.

ما طلبه بقى كان اسم الشريف

What he asked for was the name of the Sharif.

ما نقول لك qualified and certified

What we say to you is qualified and certified.

ايه

What?

في لحد النهاردة وانا في عشرين تلاتة وعشرين

Until today, I am in the year 2023.

في طلبة متخيلة ان هو لما يدخل

In a hypothetical scenario, when he enters...

قسم كلينيكل في الكلية

Clinical Department in the College

فهو خلاص انا هتخرج كلينيكل

So it's settled, I will graduate clinical.

هشتغل كلينيكل

I will work clinically.

حلو بس

Sweet, but...

مش محتاج حاجة بوست جراد

I don't need anything, post-grad.

سالية واحدة ما هو هتشتغل فعلا كلينيكل

One question, will you actually work clinically?

يعني انا ما بيجيلي

It means I don't get it.

كلينيكل تكليف

Clinical assignment

كنت بسيبه فترة

I was leaving him for a while.

orientation as a general

التوجه كجنرال

ويعرف الادوية بتاعتنا عبارة عن ايه

What are our medications?

ويعرف البروسيس كمان

The process is also known as

عشان قطر هو عايب اسفير

Because Qatar is a strong influencer.

سفير للصيدلية

Ambassador of the Pharmacy

سواء في اقسام او رعاية

Whether in departments or care.

وبالتالي لازم يعرف

Therefore, he must know.

بروسيس ودولة الورق ماشية ازاي

How is the process and the paper state going?

والفورمات المختلفة بتاعت الورق ازاي

What are the different formats of paper?

عشان لو تسأل من نيرس

In case you want to ask about Ners.

انا عايز ادخل دواء

I want to take medicine.

او تسأل من فيزيشن

Or ask a physician.

انا عايز اعمل

I want to do.

الاجراءة فلان يبقى عارف

The procedure, so-and-so will remain informed.

يبقى فاهم يعني عارف من تحت

He remains understanding, meaning he knows what's underneath.

تمام

Alright.

ده فترة صغيرة

It's a short period.

بعد كده بلحقه بالتيم بط

After that, I will catch up with the team.

هو جونيور في تيم

He is a junior on the team.

يعني هو ليه

What does that mean?

اه

Ah

عايز اقول

I want to say.

لكن هو مش ليت

But he is not a lightweight.

ايوه هو هيدخل

Yes, he will enter.

هيدخل وهيشتغل

He will enter and will work.

لكن هيشتغل حاجات

But he will work on some things.

على قده

At his level.

هو دخل المدرسة

He entered the school.

لكن هو مش مدرس في مدرسة

But he is not a teacher at a school.

ولا هو فهمتني ازاي

And how did he understand me?

هو في المدرسة بس في اي مرحلة تعليمية

He is in school, but in which educational stage?

طيب

Okay

هو في اي ستاب

He is in what step?

وعلى فكرة ممكن جدا يكون

By the way, it could very well be.

خريج كلينيكل

Clinical graduate

ويبقى اشتر بكتير من

And it remains much more expensive than.

انا كنت لسه اسأل السؤال ده

I was just about to ask this question.

لا دي حصلت وشفتها

No, it happened and I saw it.

هل

Do

كان فيه فروق

There were differences.

بس انا ما بكلمش على

But I don't talk about...

ما بكلمش على

"I don't talk about"

انا بكلم

I am speaking.

هل

Is it

الخريج كلينيكل

The graduate is clinical.

وجايلك بس بالتكليف

"I'm just coming to you with the assignment."

بتاعه

His/its belonging.

خلاص

Enough.

جابوا الرئيس الياباني

They brought the Japanese president.

مستوى

Level

كان بيبقى زيه زيه

He used to be just like him.

اللي انت اخترتيه

The one you chose.

في انتر فيو

In an interview.

طيب هل بعد مثلا

Okay, is there after that for example?

ست شهور

Six months

لا لا لا

No, no, no.

كيف في الاتمان بيوصل

How does it reach the banks?

انديفيدولة افراد فردية

Individual individuals.

يعني من كل مثلا مثلا يعني

It means from everything, for example, for example.

20 30 ممكن تلاقي واحد

You might find someone at 20:30.

يعني هو Riccobes

It means he is Riccobes.

يعني هو اكثر اشتغل على نفسه

It means he worked more on himself.

او الشخص اللي هو اصلا سمارت كده

Oh, the person who is actually that smart.

يعني هو اسمه انه هو بيمقص كل المعلومة

It means his name is that he summarizes all the information.

بينص كل كل اسكالز الى حوالي بيشوفها

Each scale points out how much he sees.

فيرسطها

It suffices it.

جوش شئ في اللي حاجة لما ياخد شهادة برضه

Nothing will happen when he gets the certificate anyway.

بعد التخرج.

After graduation.

اه.

Ah.

بقى مشكلة تانية دلوقتي يعني قصة هقول لك حاجة انا من الناس اللي

There is another problem now, I mean, let me tell you something, I am one of the people who...

ان هو ما ينفعش تفضل دايما طول عمرك طبيب عام صح؟ اكيد لازم

It doesn't make sense to always be a general practitioner for your whole life, right? You definitely have to...

تتخصص او لازم تكبر صح؟ طالما انت ارتضيت بهذا الفيلد معلش

You need to specialize or grow up, right? As long as you accepted this field, I’m sorry.

يعني اه اه من المال مش مش هيوازي اللي انت هتعمله سواء في

It means, "Uh, uh, the money won't be equivalent to what you will do, whether in..."

المجهود او في فلوس اللي هتدفع لكن واجب عليك ان انت تكمل يعني

The effort or the money you will spend, but it's your duty to continue.

انا بشوف ان هو واجب عليك انك تكمل واجب عليك ان انت تكمل

I see that it is your duty to complete; you must finish.

عشان خاطر المريض محتاج منك ان انت تكمل. وعشان نفسك كمان انت

For the sake of the patient, I need you to continue. And for your own sake too.

محتاج ان انت تبقى اه يعني تبقى شوية يعني. لو لو هتنصحيهم

I need you to be, yeah, I mean, to be a little bit, you know. If you're going to advise them.

دلوقتي قدامهم كتير. زمالة دي. هل في حاجة معينة انت شايفة ان

Right now they have a lot ahead of them. This fellowship. Is there something specific that you see that...

هي دي اللي فعلا هتخدم المريض? ودي هتكون تضيع وقت? اه يعني احنا

Is this really going to help the patient? Or is this going to be a waste of time? Yes, I mean we...

نرتبهم.

We arrange them.

نرتبهم افضل? ماشي. يعني ترتيب الشهادات كده من وجهة نظر الدكتوراجية. اه يعني من وجهة نظر. انا بشوف الزمالة لان فترة يعني اه والجزء العامل فيها اكتر بكتير. فانا بشوف الزمالة اه وكان بديع حلو

Should we arrange them better? Alright. I mean, the order of the degrees from a doctoral perspective. Yes, I mean from that perspective. I see the fellowship because the duration is significant, and the practical component is much greater. So I see the fellowship as wonderful and beautiful.

قوي على فكرة. يعني كنت دايما جدا ببقاكين ان انا اخد الناس بتوع الزمالة. اه في اول دفعة وتاني دفعة كان بالذات كانوا شواطرين جدا. اه كان في عليهم اهتمام جامد يعني.

Strong on the idea. It means I was always very keen on getting the people from the fellowship. Yes, in the first and second batches, especially, they were very talented. There was a lot of attention on them, I mean.

اه فانا الزمالة اه ده نمبر واحد. تمام. علشان حاطر طول فترة الجزء العامل فيها. تمام? وبعدين بقى فيها تخصص. اه. يعني

Oh, I am the fellowship, oh this is number one. Okay. Because I care about the entire period of the part I am working on. Okay? And then it includes specialization. Oh. It means...

فهمتني ازاي هيبقى انت او حتى او. هو بيلف على كل اقسام وفي الاخر بيتخصص في حاجة معينة. فده حلو جدا. بيطلع بيطلع شاف حاجات كتير وفي نفس الوقت

I understood how it will be; it's either you or even him. He goes around all the departments and in the end specializes in a specific area. That's really nice. He gets to see a lot of things at the same time.

تخصص. اه. وكلها عمليا مش بقى جزء الاكاديمي بالحفظ والكلام ده. تمام. فانا بالنسبة للزمالة نمبر واحد الفارمي دي

Specialization. Ah. And it's all practically not just the academic part with memorization and that stuff. Okay. So for me, regarding the fellowship, number one is this pharmacy.

برتو. فارمي دي اللي هي بوست جراد عشان. اه اه اه. عشان نتكلم الوقت على شهادات البوست جراد. تمام. اوكي. اه. لنفس السبب

Berto. Send me the post-graduate certificates so we can talk about the post-graduate credentials. Okay. For the same reason.

برضو. عشان السنة العاملية اللي فيها. اه اه. وبرضو الشيء بالشيء يذكر مش كل فارمي دي من جميع الجماعات. اه. يعني يعني. بص على

Also. Because of the working year it includes. Yeah, yeah. And also, one thing leads to another, not every frame is from all the groups. Yeah. I mean, I mean. Look at...

السنة بتاعة التدريب هتاخدها فين? اه بتاخدها لان بتفرق جدا. الجامعة كانت مهتمية انها انها تبقى اه عملك

Where will you take the training year? Yes, you take it because it makes a big difference. The university was concerned about making it part of your work.

او عاملة شراكة مع مع اماكن قوية وفيها قوي وطبعا كلنا عارفين بعض يعني. اه وبالتالي هي عملت اه خرجت اه خرجت اه. رقم ثلاثة. مش

She is a partner with strong places, and of course we all know each other. So, she did (something). Number three. No.

هيفرق اه بالنسبة لي بوردو. البوردو زي الدبلومة. اه بوردو زي الدبلومة في حتة واحدة بس انه هو شهادة. وهو قوة المحتوى العامل.

What difference does it make for me, Bordeaux? Bordeaux is like a diploma. Yes, Bordeaux is like a diploma, but in one aspect, it is a certificate. It is the strength of the working content.

بالزبط. نظري. كوري للنظري وده دايما والله انا دايما بقوله في اي مكان. لو

Exactly. My theory. It's a Korean theory and I always say this everywhere. If...

سمحتوا ومن فضلكم خدوا الكونتنت بتاع البورد ودرسوه ودر كان في فارمي دي او في دبلومة. ونلغي فكرة الامريكان بوردو دي تماما. يعني على فكرة المصريين هم اكتر ناس بياخدوا بامريكان بوردو. يعني يعني حاجة كانت معروفة زماني يعني. ادحك انا واحد من التين كان حاصل على امريكان بوردو قبل تخرجه. اصلا. والله. كان ضارب شهادة. اه لا هو كان ضارب له شهادة.

Please, could you take the content of the board and study it? If there was a diploma or if there were courses in the field, we should completely cancel the idea of the American board. By the way, Egyptians are the ones who take the American board the most. This was something well-known back in my time. Honestly, I was one of those who had the American board before graduating. Truly. He was holding a certificate.

انا يعني. بس على فكرة الموضوع ده تعرف يعني. وتم حاجات كتير. بس يعني ده اللي انا بقول لك هاليه. اللي هو احنا مصريين بنعرف ندح او احنا اصلا متربيين على على الحفظ والصم. تمام. وبالتالي الكونتنت او سانتافي الكونتنت بتاع البورد. هاي عمي احنا كلنا بنشتغل به لغاية دلوقتي. وبعدين بقى الاول كان فارماكو ثيرابي بعدين ابتدى يبقى فيه كتير. طب انت دكتورة جهنم دلوقتي. لو جالك حد من الناس

I mean. But by the way, you know this topic means something. And many things have happened. But I mean that this is what I'm telling you. That we Egyptians know how to memorize or we are basically raised on memorization and rote learning. Alright. Consequently, the content or simply the content of the board. Hi uncle, we all still work with it until now. And then initially it was pharmacotherapy, then many things started to come up. So you are a doctor now. If someone from the people came to you...

الحلوين.

The sweet ones.

بتوع التكليف. وليتيه شاطر وحلو وكده. وبدأت تعتمد عليه في رعاية من الرعايات. وجاءت دملك ورقة عشان عايز ياخد الزمالة. ما هو هنتكلم في حاجة. الزمالة عندنا بتترفض. لا سنة بس هحكي لك.

The ones for the assignment. You became smart and nice like that. And I started to rely on him for some of the care. Then he gave you a paper because he wants to take the fellowship. Well, we will talk about something. The fellowship here gets rejected. Just for a year, but I will tell you.

ما الزمان بعيد نفسه. لا لا لا. ما نقولك. ما هو احنا عندنا بروبلم ان زوجة الصحة بتعترف اكتب الزمالة. يعني المستشفى الجماعية بتعترف اكتب

What time is far from itself. No, no, no. What can I tell you? We have a problem that the health wife admits to writing the fellowship. This means the collective hospital recognizes writing.

فرق.

Difference.

فارمي دي. في حضرتك انتني. قصة اللي انا اسيبك تنتدى بتلات سنين دي بعيد عني. لو انا عندي آآ الاستاف كامل انا ما عنديش مشكلة

"Give it to me. In your presence, you are a burden to me. The story of me leaving you waiting for three years is far from me. If I have the complete staff, I have no problem."

والله. بس انا بقول لك ان وزارة يعني احنا وزارة الصحة سهل انها آآ تعمل حكاية لهذا الاجراء وبتعترف بيه. لكن احنا كمستشفيات

By God, I'm just telling you that the Ministry, I mean our Ministry of Health, can easily implement this procedure and recognize it. But we, as hospitals...

جماعية آآ وانا ما عنديش مشكلة بالعكس. يعني مش بتكلم بس على الزمانة. طب ما تاخد لي فارمي دي. طب ما ما عنديش مشكلة.

Collectively, and I have no problem, on the contrary. I mean, I'm not just talking about the time. Why don't you take me out for a drink? I really don't have a problem.

ما هو دلوقتي. كتير كتير.

What is it now? A lot, a lot.

انا اتحملت الزمالة بعد كلام حضرتك عنها. فانا حابب اخد الزمالة. انا هوافق لك لكن اللي فوقي مش هوافق لك. هتتقطع وتتقيمي في وشي. لا انا مش هقطعها لك لكن انا هديها لك لكن اللي فوقي هيقول لك ما رفعهاش.

I accepted the fellowship after what you said about it. So I would like to take the fellowship. I will agree with you, but those above me will not agree with you. It will be cut and evaluated in my face. No, I will not cut it for you, but I will give it to you; however, those above me will tell you it hasn't been raised.

تمام. فهنرجع لنقطة صفية. يعني انا لو وافقت لك ما هو فيه بعد كده بروسس بتمشي. صح الورقة بتمشي فيه. فهيجي اقول لك انا ما رفعهاش.

Okay. So let's go back to Safiya's point. I mean, if I agree with you, there is a process that follows, right? The paper goes through it. Then I will come and tell you that I didn't submit it.

او انا ما مش

I don't want to go.

يعني مش مصرح ليه اللي انا ادي لك انت ده بثلاث سنين انا بقبضك. انا كما بكان بقبضك فلوسك وانت بتشتغل بره ما عنديش الكلام ده. فانت ليه ما تاخدش فارمي دي. طب انا كتير ده دلوقتي اتفرح فارمي دي.

It means I am not allowed for you to give me what you have for three years; I have been paying you. I have been paying you your money while you were working outside; I don't have that talk. So why don't you just take this raise? Well, I’m very happy about this raise now.

اه فترة التقلق. بالعكس ده انا بابوش للصغيرين. هم ياخدوا بس مش كلهم يعني اه يعني الريزون او لاخر ما بيردوش يعني.

Ah, it's a worrying time. On the contrary, I actually spoil the little ones. They take, but not all of them, I mean, some respond while others don’t.

اه.

Oh.

عايزين نرجع كده خطوة.

We want to go back a step like that.

صغيرة الور. في فترة التقلق قبل ريش يعتبر هي برضو في نفس الفترة اللي كان فيها تقلق الكلينيكا كمجال.

The little one of herb. During the period of turbulence before the feathers, it is also during the same period that the turbulence of the clinic as a field occurred.

لا. لا لا لا لا. اه.

No. No no no no. Ah.

فترة التقلق قبل ريش اه اه ابتدت نقول الفين وخمسة اه الفين وستة عشر. يعني التقلق ببقى والاستهارة ابتدى الناس تسمع اكتر جدا عن قبل ريش كان الفين وخمسة عشر كان بعد سنتين ونص تقريبا كده من من نشأة الكلينيكا.

The period of concern before the beginning of the feather was around 2015 or 2016. This means that the concern and the interest began; people started to hear much more about it than before. It was around 2015, which was about two and a half years after the establishment of the clinic.

ابتدت الناس تسمع.

People started to listen.

وبعدين ابتدى يبقى عندي مسميات انا العصر الزهبي كان بقى عندي ناس حلوة قوي اه هو ده بقى تمام الناس حلوة قوي قعدوا معي تقريبا سنة اللي هي من الفين وستة عشر الفين وسبعة عشر تدرينا ندخل للكليات بقى يعني ممكنش فيه لسه برضو بوست جراد قوي تدرينا نتعرف يعني تعرف فيها يعني لكن تدرينا نتعرف بقى في تمام اه اه ابو

Then I started to have names; my golden age had really nice people. Yes, that’s it, really nice people who spent about a year with me, which is from 2016 to 2017. We managed to get into the colleges, but there wasn’t really a strong post-grad yet. We got to know each other well during that time.

ريش.

Feathers.

جانت اه عايز اقول ايه يعني هي في حتة الوحديها عن باقي الكلينيكا اللي تعرف بالاسبشياليتي بتاعتها يعني الاسبشياليتي اللي في بيدياتري كونيو نيتس انا اكاد اجزم قبطي النوحي ابو ريش يعني اه في اماكن بقت حلوة يعني احنا احنا احنا دربنا ناس بقى هم دلوقتي اه يعني او اشتغلوا معنا او او دربناهم كده بس بقى دلوقتي هم الهيدز اف اماكن فيها بيدياتري كونيو نيتس لكن سمعت ابو ريش.

I don't know what to say, I mean it is in a place of its own compared to the rest of the clinic that is known for its specialty. I mean the specialty in pediatric continuous care, I can almost guarantee that Abou Rish is a place that has become nice. I mean we have trained people who are now either working with us or we have trained them, but now they are the heads of places that have pediatric continuous care. However, I've heard about Abou Rish.

من حتتين حتة اه اصلا اسبشياليتي بتاعتها اه كنا احنا الوحدينا يعني احنا كنا الوحدينا لو قلنا سبعة وخمسين فسبعة وخمسين كانت متميزة او رام اونكولوجي لكن احنا كنا باقي التخصصات.

It's made up of two parts; one part is, in fact, its specialty. Yes, we were alone, meaning we were on our own. If we said fifty-seven, then fifty-seven was exceptional or in oncology, but we were in the other specialties.

ومن هنا كانت ابو ريش في حتة الوحدي يعني كنت بقول كده جزيرة المالديف يعني هي حتة الوحدي مش مش مع باقي الناس.

And from here, Abu Rish is in a lonely place, I mean I was saying like the Maldives, it’s a lonely place, not with other people.

وكان بداية على فكرة كلنا لما كنا بنسمع.

And it started with the idea that we all used to hear.

كنا نسمع عن.

We used to hear about.

اونكولوجي.

Oncology.

بس بس يا سبعة وخمسين يا معهد الاورام صح لكن بعد كده بعد كده نقول ستاشر وسبعتاشر بدأ يسمع اعلم مطارية اه يعني ككلا او كده اه يعني بدأنا نسمع لكن تخصص بيدياتري كونيو نيتس يمكن بدأ في ابو ريش فعشان كده كان ابو ريش براند الوحدي هفهم ازاي فا وبردو يعني يرجع الفضل للوليد يا سيط.

But, but, oh fifty-seven, oh cancer institute, that's right, but after that, after that we can say sixteen and seventeen, it started to be heard, I mean, like this or something, yeah, I mean, we started to hear, but the pediatrics specialty may have started in Abu Rish, so that's why Abu Rish was a brand on its own. How can I understand this? So, also, the credit goes to Walid, oh master.

تيم ناس.

Tim Nas.

اه.

Ah.

طيب.

Okay.

التيم كان متعاون عارف لما تلاقي التيم كان متعاون والتيم حابب ان هو يشتغل ويجبر ويكبر المكان بيريحك اه بيريحك في التخزي الكهربائي بيريحك ان انت تعمل ديفيلومنتو تعمل اه فردر بروغرس و بيريحك اه طيب انت شايفة فترة التقلق الكلينيكال هل الكلينيكال غد لسه غد دلوقتي فترة التقلق ولمعانو ولا.

The team was cooperative, and you could tell that the team wanted to work and grow the place, which makes you feel at ease. Yes, it makes you comfortable with electrical distribution, and it makes it easier for you to develop and make progress. So, do you see that the clinical period is still a time of anxiety, or is the clinical phase still a source of concern now?

اه.

Ah.

بيريحك وبدأ يخفض هو في كيرف كده طلع ولينتا بس مش عارفين هو بدأ ينزل ولا لسه ولسه طالع اه لا هو هيبدأ طول عمره طالع اعتقد بس انا هقول لك والله العظيم حاجة يمكن خارج سياق الكلام بس والله انا من اول ما دخلت بوريش اه كنت بحاسب حاجة ولغاية حتى لما خرجت من بوريش انا استنى نفس الحاجة دلوقتي المكان ده في حاجة غريبة والله العظيم اللي هو بوريش اه.

It relaxes you, and He started lowering it, so it came out, and we are just not sure if it has started to go down or if it's still coming up. Yes, no, it will always be coming up, I believe. But I will tell you, I swear to God, something that may be out of context, but I swear I have been thinking about it since the first time I entered Bureish, and even when I left Bureish, I am still waiting for the same thing. Right now, there is something strange about this place, I swear to God, which is Bureish.

مستشفى بوريش اه انت بتدخل بكونسبت اه شغل اه اكسبيرينس اه ساعتين وتخلصهم لا المكان ده بيطلع فيك احسن حاجة مش عارفة ليه يعني بيبقى عندك باور اللي انت ما اعرفش يا اهل انا الواحد بس انا كنت بلاقي ناس اللي هو فيه سر جاذبية اللي انت عايز تدي هل شعورك ببعض المسئولية الاخلاقية تجاه الاطفال اللي جايين لك من محافظات مختلفة.

Boris Hospital, oh, when you enter, it has a concept, yes, work, yes, experience, yes, you finish in two hours. This place brings out the best in you; I don't know why. You feel like there is a power that you don’t know about. For me, I used to find people who have a magnetism, that you want to give. Do you feel some moral responsibility towards the children coming to you from different governorates?

كحرطين ممكن يكونوا لفوا على على اماكن كتير مع بعض وصلوا لك او او انت امالهم وملازهم الاخير فبتحس ببا عايزة اقول ايه بعبئ نفسي او عبئ ضميري او انت عايز تطلع احسن ما فيك عايز تطلع علمك بتشوف الاهالي قد ايه متأثرة طبعا يعني بولادها عايز الولد ده يركع تاني انت لما بتتعب بتحس ان انت دبراسد وسترازد وشاف الدنيا

Like they might have wandered to many places together, they reached you or you are their last hope and refuge, so you feel like you want to express something, either to burden myself or to ease my conscience, or you want to bring out the best in you. You want to show your knowledge and you see how much the parents are affected, of course, by their children. You want this boy to succeed again. When you feel tired, you feel that you are depressed and stressed and have seen the world.

سودة حواليك صح ما بيلك الطفل انت حارمه من مامته لان هو قاعد لوحده في الرعاية فحس ان هو مكان ما هرش الناس اللي فيه شوف كم الرعب اللي هو فيه كم الرعب اللي هو فيه الرعب ومش عارفة اوكس بريس ده يعني هو لو عايت برضو مامته مش هجيله فانتيني ازاي فهو يعيب ستراز نفسي رهيب شوف هو محروم من اللعب محروم من الاتل اللي بيحبه محروم من اخويته محروم من اصحابه محروم من الجو يعني انت فاهم احنا كنا

The surroundings around you are true; the child is being deprived of his mother because he is sitting alone in care, feeling out of place as he scratches where the people are. Look at the level of fear he is experiencing, the fear he is experiencing. And I do not know what "Oxypress" means; if he cries, his mother will not come to him. How are you going to deal with that? He has a tremendous psychological burden. Look, he is deprived of playing, deprived of the games he loves, deprived of his siblings, deprived of his friends, deprived of the atmosphere. Do you understand? We were...

بننفخ اللافز ونعملها لهم بلالين ونرسم لهم عليهم مبتاع شو الخطر يعني يعني اوسط حاجة ندخل لهم البهجة يعني او نحاول دايما يعني احنا كنا منرتبط بهم نفسهم جدا على فكرة لدرجة كنت مرحلة من مراحل ما كنت اقول لهم ما تقولوا ليش فلان ضايق قولوا لي ميشي واتحكوا علي

We're going to inflate the balloons and make them into shapes, and we'll draw on them something nice. What's the danger, I mean, at the very least, we bring them joy. We always try, I mean, we were really connected to them, by the way, to the point where at one stage I would tell them not to tell me if someone upset them, just say "it's okay" and laugh about it.

شو الخطر انا قبل ان انتوا تتحكوا علي لان انا خلاص بقيت بتأثر بي قوي يعني ما خلاص

What's the danger? Before you all start talking about me, because I've really started to be affected by it a lot, you know?

اتدت

It seems there may be a typo in the Arabic text. Could you please clarify or provide the correct word?

يحصل لك

It happens to you.

او ريليشن كده

Oh, it's like that, a relationship?

فميبي ده اللي بيخليك

My mouth is what makes you.

عايز تطلع

I want to go out.

دايما على طول عايز

Always wanting.

الناس تطلع فيهم

People look up to them.

ايه الحاجات اللي كانت بتخلي دكتورة جهين

What were the things that used to make Dr. Jehin?

كمديرة بقى

As a director, then.

هو التيم حلو وكل حاجة

The team is great and everything.

طبعا ما يخلوش من مشاكل

Of course, it isn't without problems.

ما فيش تيم كامل

There is no complete team.

او طبعا لا يخلو من مشاكل

Or of course, it is not without problems.

ايه اكتر المشاكل اللي كانت بتقبلك

What are the biggest problems you faced?

وازاي كنت بتهندليها

And how were you handling it?

سؤال صعب

A difficult question.

ايه اشهر

What is famous?

اكتر حاجة كانت

The most important thing was

ابني انا زهاي مريب

My son, I am very suspicious.

لا فيك كتير

No, there's a lot in you.

انا بكلمك بجد

I am speaking to you seriously.

اصلا انا يعني

Actually, I mean...

ده على فكرة حاجة

This is, by the way, something.

حكاية اللي انت فعلا بتنسى الاحداث

The story of someone who truly forgets the events.

او بتتنسى الاحداث

Or the events are forgotten.

عشان خاطر تعرف تكمل مع التيم

So that you know how to continue with the team.

يعني انا دايما كنت

I mean I have always been.

بحاول ازبط مخي حقيقة

"I'm trying to get my mind right, honestly."

ايه والله مش بغزة

Yes, by God, it's not in Gaza.

والغاية دلوقتي حتى لو حد كلوس مني

"And the goal right now, even if someone gets close to me."

هيقولك اه هي جهان بتعمل كده

He will tell you yes, Jahaan is doing that.

ومصاربين

And the banks.

انا الحادث يخلص انا بنساه

I am the incident that ends, I will forget it.

او بتنساه

Or you forget it.

يعني بسقطه في الواعي بتاعي خالص تماما

It means he completely falls in my consciousness.

باحداثه بصلطاته ببابا غنو

With his events, he is in charge of Baba Ghanouj.

عشان اعرف اكمل معاك

So I can know whether to continue with you.

واعرف لنا نموف

And introduce us to Namouf.

يعني اعرف نحن نكمل

It means I know we are continuing.

حاجات كتير يعني مشاكل كتير

A lot of things means a lot of problems.

لو انت بتتكلم

If you are speaking

بتعمل ايه لما تسمعي انه

What do you do when you hear that?

الحد اللي انت مثلا

The limit that you, for example...

قلتي له مش هنفع نوفاق لك على الزميلة

You told him, "It won't be possible for us to support you regarding the colleague."

علشان خاطر واحد واثنين

For the sake of one and two.

لا لا انا بضع بمثال

No, no, I will give an example.

طالع قيل مثلا

It is said, for example.

دكتور جهان مستقصداني

Dr. Jahan Mostaghdani

او

Or

دكتور جهان مش عايز حد

Dr. Jahan doesn't want anyone.

يعمل ياخد شهادة ويكبر

He works, gets a certificate, and grows.

ومش عارف ايه

And I don't know what.

وتلاقي حكاية قلبت عليك

"And you find a story that turned against you."

اعتقد

I believe.

هقولك حاجة حلو قوي

I will tell you something very nice.

ابرمي القرى في ملعب وهادي الورق

I wrap the villages in the playground, and here is the paper.

وما تطولك لو خلصتو اوكي

It won't take long if you finish it, okay?

يعني

It means.

سيس مينس اللي انا بكسر لك

"I will break you, Siss Mins."

الثيوري اللي انت بتحاول تطلعها علي

The theory that you're trying to bring out.

اوكي

Okay

بس فيه حاجات ممكن تطلع عليك

But there are some things that might come to you.

انت لا يمكن ان انت هتغلق

You cannot shut down.

فواه البشر

The mouths of humans.

امم

Hmm.

بس عايزة اقولك اللي انا مؤمنة

I just want to tell you that I am a believer.

ان هو يعني

What he means

يعني والله انا مش بجناحات

I swear I am not with wings.

ولا بطيخ يعني بس

And it's not just watermelon, I mean.

بس ان كان ربنا سبحانه تعالى

But if God Almighty...

غاية دلوقتي البشر بيتطولوا عليه

So far, people are being rude to him.

الرسول عليه الصلاة والسلام

The Messenger, may peace be upon him.

تطول عليه كل البشر فانتيني ازاي

"How can all humanity be lengthened on him?"

فانت ما لست يعني

So you are not what you mean.

يعني عايزة اقول ببعيد

I want to say far away.

ان اي حد ممكن يقول عليك

Anyone can say anything about you.

او يفتري عليك في كلام

Or he slanders you in words.

لكن فيه حاجات بتبقى واضحة

But there are things that are clear.

وشواهد

And witnesses.

ان هو دكتور جهان مش عايزة

She doesn't want Dr. Jihan.

اللي قدامها

The one in front of her.

ده ياخد بوستجرات حضرتك

This will take your post, sir.

انا عندي بدل الواحد عشرة وافقت لهم

I have ten instead of one, and I agreed to them.

بس اللي انت اخترته تريك

But what you chose shows you.

ده above my authority

This is above my authority.

اللي انا وافق لك عليه

What I agreed to with you.

فالس ماي authority فضل جوه اهد كمل

The authority prefers what you have completed.

والله لو توفق عليه

By God, if it succeeds for him.

والله ده حظك

By God, that's your luck.

ما توفقش عليه هاها قلت لك ايه

You didn't agree on it, haha, what did I tell you?

طيب

Okay.

امم

Um...

عايز ترجع للجيرني تاني ولا ايه

Do you want to go back to the journey again or what?

لا مو احنا كل ده في الجيرني

No, we are not all in the journey.

كل ده احنا ماشيين في الجيرني

We are all in the journey.

يعني

means

احنا دقريبا يعني خلاص وصلنا 2017 2018

We have almost reached 2017, 2018.

لا و بس انا انا قلتلك ان انا وقفت في محطة اللي انا قابلت الدكتور احمد ابو الهانا

No, I just told you that I stopped at the station where I met Dr. Ahmed Abu Al-Hana.

صح

True.

اه

Ah.

الدكتور احمد ابو الهانا نقول كده كنت دقريبا في 2014

Dr. Ahmad Abu Al-Hana, we were saying that it was around 2014.

يعني 2014 2015 يعني لو ما بتكون تاخدني ازاكرة

It means 2014, 2015, so if you're not going to take me, remember.

فلما قابلته كان هو عامل كورس ترينينج كده بيحاول ينقل

When I met him, he was conducting a training course, trying to convey...

عايز اقول ايه

I want to say what.

ال clinical practice

clinical practice

في مصر

In Egypt

من خلال طبعا خبرته في بريطانيا

Through his experience in Britain.

فكان بيبتدي يقولك بيتبس اللي هو بدايات ال international

He would start telling you about the beginnings of the international.

clinical practice او الدين ماشي ازاي او كلام ده كله

Clinical practice, or how religion works, or all this talk.

تمام

Okay

فحضرنا وبعدين هو كان عامل حاجة لطيفة جدا

So we attended, and then he had done something very nice.

شو ديسا نعرف بعضها خالص بقى

What do we really know about each other?

كان عامله هو بيعمل امتحان مش شفاوي بس assessment كده بعد بعد بعد الكورس عشان خاطر يشتغل ممتازه اللي عند الاستئداد gi

His worker was taking an exam, not an oral one, but just an assessment after the course in order to work well at the GI readiness.

بعد الكورس عشان خاطر يشوف

After the course so that he can see.

ماذا استفدتك من هذا الكورس

What did you benefit from this course?

وكان هو عنده

And he was with him.

another aim

another aim

انه هو كان ساعتها كان

He was at that time.

يعني مش فاكرة هو كان في جامعة مصر

I mean, I don't remember if it was at the University of Egypt.

العلوم التكنولوجية جامعة مصط

Technological Sciences University of Must.

وكان فاتح

And he was a conqueror.

الفارماكو ثيربي

Pharmacotherapy

كورس

Course

اللي هو كان critical care

Which was critical care.

والفارماكو ثيربي وكانوا لسه يعملوا

And the pharmacotherapy, they were still doing it.

بدياتري الكورس

The course dietitian

البورد يعني هو كان كورس

The board means it was a course.

التأهيل اللي تأسيس البورد

Qualification for the establishment of the board.

تمام فهو كان بيختار

Alright, he was choosing.

من المجموعات لان احنا

From the groups because we are

كنا مش عارفة كذا مجموعة تقريبا

We weren't sure about several groups, approximately.

بيختار مين الكويسين

Who chooses the good ones?

او مين الشطرين كنت لسه بقى على الله حكاية

Oh, from which couplet were you still waiting for God’s tale?

يعني كنت لسه بقى

It means I was just about to...

ان هو ايه الدنيا ماشية

What is going on in the world?

وكان بيختار

He used to choose.

واحد

One

ان هو يديله

He is giving it to him.

scholarship او funded ان هو

Scholarship or funded is it.

فلوس الكورس يبقى

The course money will be.

يعني totally free

It means totally free.

فكان بيختار واحد لcritical care

He was choosing someone for critical care.

واحد للفارماكو ثيربي تقريبا

One for pharmacotherapy approximately.

يعني

It means.

واحد في الكلام تقريبا

One in the conversation is almost.

فاخترني

Choose me.

فاخترني ان هو انتي تحب

"Choose me if you love me."

يعني هو بيختارك ويقولك اخترني ان انت عايز

It means he chooses you and tells you to choose him if you want.

وانت عايز فارماكو ثيربي عايز

And you want pharmacotherapy, do you want it?

كريتيكال كير هكذا

Critical care like this.

فاخترني

So choose me.

وكنت طبعا مختارة لانها حلو

"And I was of course chosen because she is beautiful."

هيدوني بقى

They will give it to me now.

الcontent بتاعت البورد

The content of the board.

وكلام دا كله هي سنة وفيه ناس

All this talk is a tradition, and there are people.

كويسين قوي الدكتور بقى

The doctors are really good now.

حامد اسماعيل ودكتورة برضو

Hamid Ismail and the doctor as well.

نيرمين صابري كان ضمن الناس اللي دارس لنا

Nermine Sabri was among the people who studied with us.

كورس الدكتورة حنان

Dr. Hanan's course

الرفاعي ناس كتير حلوة يعني عشان

Al-Rifai has a lot of beautiful people, you know, because...

غطا ما نساش كل الناس يعني

"Everyone means I didn't forget."

فقلت حلو بقى

I said, "That's nice now."

بس unfortunately العدد اللي كان

But unfortunately, the number that was...

مفهود هيجي للبيدياتريك ماكملش

It seems that the pediatric part was not completed.

فخيروني تحب ايه فقلت فارماكو ثيربي

"Then they gave me a choice of what I like, and I said pharmacotherapy."

تمام فدي كان برضو

Okay, that was also fine.

نقطة انطلاق اللي انا اتعرفتها

The starting point that I got to know.

الدكتور احمد اولهانا

Dr. Ahmed Al-Ouhana

واخترني لل

"And choose me for the..."

preparatory course دا

preparatory course

الامريكان بورد في جامعة مصر

The American Board at the University of Egypt

واللي انا درست

And what I studied.

يعني رجعت تاني ايه ادرس حاجة

It means I've come back again to study something.

غير clinical diploma

Non-clinical diploma

الprofessional دي

This professional.

content بقى مع ناس تاني

Content stayed with other people.

تمام

Okay.

ابتدى الدكتور احمد اولهانا

Dr. Ahmed has started his own.

يسافر وبعدين

He travels and then.

رجع بعد كده انا عزمته

He came back later, I invited him.

عندنا مش عارفة انت

"I don't know about you."

كنت موجود في الفترة دي

I was present during this period.

يوم انا كنت غير

The day I was not myself.

اليوم ده حظي

Today is my lucky day.

اتفقت مع الدكتور احمد

I agreed with Dr. Ahmed.

اولهانا انه هو

It is him.

راجل very generous

A very generous man.

very generous in sharing information

very generous in sharing information

very generous

very generous

in education بشكل طبيعي

in education naturally

كان بيجي اجاستو

August was coming.

في مصر وكان بيجي

In Egypt, and it used to come.

دي كل تلت

This is every third.

كان بيجي يعمل

He used to come and do.

workshop للولاد بتوعي

A workshop for my kids.

سنة 2015

Year 2015

تقريبا كان يجي

He was almost coming.

workshop عن طريقة

Workshop on method

documentation عن طريقة

documentation about the method

زي

like

الcaseful up sheet تبقى معمولة بشكل

The caseful up sheet remains made in a certain way.

كويس يعني بص هم

Good, I mean look, they...

كانش بيكلمك في topic هو بيكلمك

He wasn't talking to you about the topic he was discussing.

في اساسيات

In essentials.

فهمتين ازاي بيحط رجلك على

How do you understand putting your foot on?

اساسيات بشكل بشكل

Basics in a straightforward manner.

بشكل more standardized

In a more standardized way.

على حسب خبرته برا

According to his experience abroad.

فهمتين ازاي

How did you understand?

وبالتالي انت فتحت channel ان هو

Therefore, you opened a channel that is.

بقى معاك حد ان هو ايه لو حبيت

"Is there anyone with you who you might like?"

تسأله في حاجة او كده

You ask him for a favor or something like that.

ده كان من اهم الحاجات اللي انا عملتها

That was one of the most important things I did.

في قبرش اللي انا عارفت

In the grave that I knew.

وكان كنت احسد

I used to envy.

عليها ان هو

It must be him.

this generous

هذا كريم

يعني professor بصراحة

It means "professor, honestly."

ان هو يديني من وقته

He is giving me some of his time.

ان هو يجيلي كل يوم

He comes to me every day.

ثلاث يجي تقريبا على

Three come approximately at.

مدى شهر ونص شهرين تقريبا

About a month and a half to two months.

بيجي يدي ولادي

My kids will come.

قاعد لساعة خمسة وستة معاهم

I will sit with them until five and six.

قاعد

Sitting

قاعد معاهم ويعني

Sitting with them, and I mean.

مش عايزة اقولك قد ايه ما كانش

I don't want to tell you how much it wasn't.

لا يمل ولا يكلم ان هو

He does not get bored and does not speak if he...

يرد على كل بقى الاسئلة الشطحة

He responds to all the remaining random questions.

فوجاي في حتة معينة كانش عنده مشكلة

He didn't have a problem in a certain place.

خالص وكلام ده الكل

This is all sincere talk.

وبعديها

And after that

وبعديها ابتدينا

And after that, we started.

يعني عارف انت ابتديت تلم كتير

It means, you know, you’ve started to collect a lot.

من الخيوط اللي لعبها

From the threads he played with.

فابتديت تحرك بقى

So I started to move now.

وبقى معايا ناس حلوة

And nice people stayed with me.

ابتديت ألعب بيهم بقى

I started playing with them now.

يعني مش اقصد العب بيهم

I don't mean to play with them.

بس اقصد ان انا ابتديت بقى

I just mean that I have started now.

يعني احرك بقى القطع المختلفة دي

It means I will move these different pieces now.

على الشطرنج فانتيني ازاي

How to play chess, Vantini?

فمن هنا كانت

From here, it was.

يعني دي ده برضو

It means this too.

يعني في الجوني بتاعتي

It means "in my jeans."

ومن هنا اخدت اللي هو

And that's where I took what it is.

الامريكان بورت

American port

فارماكو ثيربي

Pharmacotherapy

وده سنة 2015

This is the year 2015.

جيت سنة 2017

I came in 2017.

2015 2016 خلصت دالي

2015 2016 Daley is finished.

2017

2017

قلت انا ما بتدهش بقى

I said I am not surprised anymore.

صحيح علاقات ده بلغتي من العمر عيطية

It is true that relationships have dominated my life.

بس يعني ما بتدهش بقى

But I mean, it's not surprising anymore.

بقى معايا ناس وانت بتختار

"Stay with me, people while you choose."

اه كواليفايت

Ah, Qualify!

شاطرين وكلام ده كله

Smart and all that talk.

فابتديت اخد فارميتي

So I started taking my medication.

وده علاش فكرة برضو

This is also why it's a thought.

الاس لناس الكبرى شوية

The main issue for people is a bit.

هوا اتس نيفر تو ليت

It’s never too late.

بقى صحيح كنت انا العجوزة اللي في الدفعة

I was indeed the old woman in the batch.

بس اتس اوكي

But it's okay.

فاخدت الفارمي دي

So I took the farming one.

خلصته سنة 2019

I finished it in 2019.

واس جريت اكسمنت

I ran an exam.

تمام

Perfect

وبتديت بقى يعني

"And I started, you know."

بتديت بقى يعني ايه خلاص

What does it mean to have finished?

يعني خلاص يعني

It means "So that's it, then."

عارفة في بداية العجلة

I know at the beginning of the wheel.

المشكلة انها تبتدي تدور

The problem is that it starts to spin.

بس وان صدرت تنشي

But if it is issued, it will be activated.

اه بتنشي

Ah, you’re energizing!

النظام بتحط

The system is being set up.

بتعمل

You are doing.

كل شوية

Every little while.

وتزبط وتعمل

And you fix and you work.

وتزبط وتحدس وتعمل

And it gets fixed, predicted, and done.

واللي معاكي بتدي انت

And whoever is with you, you give.

زي ما بتقول

As you say.

ان هو انت بتاخد من ده

Are you taking from this?

حاجة حلوة وتوظفها

A nice thing and you employ it.

في الحتة اللي هو فيها

In the place where he is.

ومن ده حاجة كويسة وتوظفها

And if it's a good thing, use it.

ومن ده حاجة كويسة

And this is a good thing.

ففي حاجة بتاعته كويس قوي

He has a very good need for it.

فبتدي ان انت تحطه

Then you start to place it.

مع خلاص احنا تقريبا

We're almost done.

من 2016

Since 2016

احنا بقينا يعني عاملين

We have become, I mean, doing.

بروتوكولات مع

Protocols with

فارمي دي كلية صيدات القاهرة

I graduated from the Faculty of Pharmacy, Cairo.

بانسوي

Let's do it.

في المينيا

In Minya.

بص يعني

Look, I mean...

الجماعات الخاصة كمان

Private groups as well.

الاهرامي الكندية بس مش فارمي دي

The Canadian pyramids, but they are not buried.

اندر جراد فهمتني ازاي

You understood me how, Andar Jarad?

فبتدينا يعني نعمل

So we start to do.

سواء كان عندنا بقى

Whether we have it or not

من البروجرام

From the program.

اللي هو الادفانسد ليفت

Which is the advanced lift.

ده للناس بوست جراد و

This is for the people, a locust post and...

اللي هو للناس الاندر جراد

Which is for the undergrad people.

فببقى كان عندي حتى احيان

So I used to have sometimes.

في وقت من الاوقات كان عندي

At one time, I had.

اوفرلاب رهيب اللي كان عندي فوق

The overlap was amazing that I had above.

الاربعين طالب

The forty students.

سواء اندر جراد بياخدوا

Whether locusts are caught.

اندر جراد بياخدوا يعني البروجرام بتاعهم

The adventurers take their program, you know.

او بوست جراد

Oh, a grasshopper post.

وبيبتدوا ياخدوا الترين

"And they start to take the train."

فمن سنة 2016

Since 2016.

الدنيا الحمد لله يعني هي دي

The world, thank God, means this is it.

اللي بتدت بقى ايه يعني خلاص

What started now, what does it mean, that's it?

بتتعرف وبتدت بقى

You get to know and it has started to become.

يعني يتبصلك حقيقي

It means he truly cares about you.

يتبصلك ايه ده

What are you getting at with this?

انت بتعمل ايه

What are you doing?

وبعدين يبتدى يتبصلك

Then he starts to stare at you.

من نظرة وده حقيقي

From a glance, his affection is genuine.

وليس سرا

And it's no secret.

يبتدى يتبصلك من ناس بير

"People start to look at you from a distance."

اللي هو

"Which is"

انت يعني

You mean.

بير انا قصدي يعني ناس

I meant people.

عتاولة في المجال زي الناس

Giants in the field, like everyone else.

اللي هم مثلا في 57 هو

Those who are, for example, in 57, he is.

ايه ده انتوا اطفال

What is this, you are children?

وابتدتوا تسمعوا

And you started to listen.

في مجالكوا وابتدى مثلا

In your field, for example, it started.

لو انكولوجي يبقى

If it's oncology, then...

57 غير الانكولوجي يبقى بريش

57 non-oncological remains unbrushed.

فابتدى

So he started.

انتبقى تتحط على اتراك

Are you going to be placed on Turks?

او ابتدى يبصلك انه هو

He started to look at you like he is.

في محمد X extraordin

In Muhammad X extraordinary

هو مصري بس فيه محمد X

He is Egyptian, but there is Muhammad X.

ùرجع عارف ينافس آل wow

"Arif is back to compete with the Wow family."

أو عارف ينافس آل6

Or Aref competes with Al6.

حلوين قوي ولا

Are they very cute or not?

بس بامكانياتو

Just with its capabilities.

ار foundation

Foundation

حكومة هي هيها

The government is the same.

ونفس الـ resources لكن أنت بتحاول تطلع أحسن أحسن منهم

"And the same resources, but you are trying to come up with something better than them."

إحنا دلوقتي وصلنا لتقريباً 2018-2019 خلصتي الفارم دي

We are now around 2018-2019, have you finished this farm?

والدنيا بدأت خلاص بدأت بتمشي بشكل شبه automatic

And life has started, finally, to move in a nearly automatic way.

والبراند بتاع كلينيكا لابو الريش بدأ بيسمع بشكل كبير

The brand of Klinik Lab Abu Al-Reesh has started to gain significant recognition.

لو أنت بتتكلم على نجاح أي مكان نجاح أي مكان system

If you are talking about the success of any place, the success of any place system.

حطله system حطله policy و rules و standard criteria أنت تمشي عليها

Put in place a system, establish policies, rules, and standard criteria that you will follow.

و checking list لشغلك و checking list للناس اللي في شغلك

A checking list for your work and a checking list for the people in your work.

عشان تبقى عارف أنت وضعك إيه كل شوية يعني تعرف تاخد كده زي لقطة

So you can be aware of your situation, every now and then you need to take a snapshot like this.

أنت ماشي كويس حصل deviation بنعمل evaluation لنفسنا على طول بشكل مستمر

You are doing well; there has been a deviation. We continuously evaluate ourselves.

لازم تبقى مستمر

You must keep on going.

يعني evaluation لنفسك يعني أنت لازم تعمل auditing لنفسك

It means evaluation of yourself; you need to conduct an audit of yourself.

اللي أنت ما تخليش الحياة وردية والدنيا تسحبك

Don't let life make you see everything in pink, and don't let the world pull you down.

علشان خاطر تبقى عارف أنت مش بتقول ليه على الكيرف

Just so you know, you’re not telling me about the curve.

تبقى عارف الكيرف بيطلع أو بينزل أو ثابت ليه

You still know why the curve goes up, down, or stays stable.

وفي نفس الوقت لو بينزل بينزل ليه

At the same time, if he comes down, why would he come down?

في حاجة بتبقى خارجة عن إرادتنا يعني ساعات كوفيد ده كان

There are things that are beyond our control; for example, sometimes Covid was...

كان بنزل شوية

It was coming down a little.

طيب في نقطة مهمة مش هنقدر ننكرها

Okay, there's an important point that we cannot deny.

وهاية إنه في عدد مش قليل من الناس اللي كانت من الناس الكويسة في الclinical

And there are quite a few people who were among the good ones in the clinical field.

رواد الclinical زي ما تعص footprints

"Clinical pioneers are like footprints."

يعنا مش رواد أوي ولكن كان في من الناس الpromising في الclinical

We aren't very pioneering, but there were promising people in clinical.

سابوا الclinical

They abandoned the clinical.

مش سابوا الريش لأ سابوا الclinical

They didn't leave the feathers; no, they left the clinical.

ايه بقى

What now?

ايه الموضوع

What is the matter?

ليه الناس بتسيبوا الكلينيكل

Why are people leaving the clinical field?

على الرغم من كل الكلام الجميل اللي احنا قلناه ده

Despite all the beautiful words we've said.

ما هو انا هقولك

What is it? I will tell you.

يعني عشان خاطر نبقى

It means so that we can be.

نتكلم بشكل honest

Let's speak honestly.

وبشكل frank

In a frank manner.

الكلينيكل

The clinical

جنة متأخر

Late Paradise

يعني على فكرة احنا بدين في مصر متأخر جدا

I mean, by the way, we started in Egypt very late.

عن اي يعني هو

What does it mean, he?

في اوروبا ودوله متقدمة

In Europe and its advanced countries.

يعني كتير هو ابتدى من بعد

It means a lot; it started after.

الحرب العالمية التانية تقريبا يعني

The Second World War, almost I mean.

هو ابتدى يبقى في

He started to be in.

مؤسسات وassociations

Institutions and associations

وكلام ده كله فين تاني

Where is all this talk happening again?

جنة متأخر

Late Paradise

لأي problem

For any problem.

احنا هنقول كان الproblem academic problem

We will say that the problem was an academic problem.

او practitioner problem

the practitioner problem

يعني ما كانش مقبول فكرة

It means the idea was not acceptable.

تدريس الكلينيكل او وجود ومراحة

Teaching clinical or presence and comfort.

بكلينيكل ما بقولك يعني

"With all due respect, I'm not saying that to you."

لكن لما ابتدى يتفرد

But when it started to become unique.

الكلينيكل على ارض الواقع

Clinical in real life

ابتدى يبقى فيه clinical programs في قلب

Clinical programs have started to emerge in the heart.

الكليات

The colleges

او الجماعات يعني كتير

Oh, the groups, I mean a lot.

وده كان شأ حلو صح

And this was a nice thing, right?

بس المش حلو الاعداد الكتير

But what's not nice is the large numbers.

اللي ده العدو

Who is this enemy?

هو في حاجة

He is in need.

احنا شنا خاطر ناخدها

We really wanted to take it.

يعني الحلو اللي احنا كان عندنا

It means the sweet thing we used to have.

انا بقولك كنت الاول

I am telling you I was the first.

اللي احنا مباحزوا انه اصلا

What we are discussing is that it is actually...

الكلينيكل يعني مش بدأ الكلينيكل

The clinical means it hasn't started the clinical.

وبعدين بدأنا نخرج طلبة

Then we started to take out students.

احنا بدأنا بالعكس

We started in reverse.

احنا بدأنا نخرج طلبة

We have started to graduate students.

وما فيش اصلا clinical لسه موجود

And there isn't even a clinical one available yet.

لا ما كانش كده برضو

No, it wasn't like that either.

هو كان ابتدى يزيع ساعة الكلينيكل شوية

He started to broadcast the clinical hour a little.

بسبب ان هو ابتدى يحركوا الزمالة

Because he started to stir up the fellowship.

يعني الزمالة بتاعيالي كانت

It means my fellowship was.

اول دفعة كانت سنة 2011 تقريبا تدخل

The first batch was around the year 2011.

يعني هتتخرج سنة ايه

Which year are you graduating?

قول بعد ثلاث سنين يعني 2014

Say in three years means 2014.

او فهمتني ازاي

How did you understand me?

وابتدى البورد

And the board started.

تقريبا في هذه

Almost in this

يعني ايه الفترة برضو

What does the period mean then?

2011 برضو يبتدي يعني بورد

2011 also starts with "Bord".

او 2012

Oh 2012

ما كانش لسه على فكرة في حكاية الكلينيكل بروبرام دي في الجامعات الفترة دي

There wasn't yet, by the way, any talk about the clinical program in universities during that time.

يعني اعتقد اعتقد اول ناس اتخرجوا من الكلينيكل بروبرام في جامعة القاهرة

I think the first people who graduated from the clinical program at Cairo University.

تيالي 2015

Tiali 2015

تيالي يعني

"Ti'ali" means "bring it here" or "come here" in English.

فاللي هو حضرتك

So, what you mean is you.

لا لا قبل كده

No, no, before that.

قبل كده انا متخرج 2013 قناة السويس وكان فيه

I graduated in 2013 from Suez Canal University, and there was...

وكان فيه clinical

And there was clinical.

لا اتخرجوا اول دفعة كام

I didn’t graduate; how many were in the first batch?

انا متخرج 13

I graduated 13.

كان فيه clinical

There was a clinical aspect.

اعتقد دموق القاهرة قبلنا بشوية

I think the Cairo demo accepted us a little earlier.

قبل قناة السويس بشوية

Just before the Suez Canal.

بس مدى اللي انا بقوله

But to the extent that I am saying.

إنو كان فيه ناس بتتخرج

There were people graduating.

بس مفيش clinical

But there is no clinical.

ما كانش ساعتها

It wasn't at that time.

لسا شغل الكلينيكل

Still working on the clinical stuff.

حتى ما كانش مسمع انو فيه ناس بتتخرج

It wasn't even heard that there are people graduating.

حتى ما كانش هارفهم بتتخرجوا وبيتوهوا في وسط

Even if I don't understand, you graduate and get lost in the middle.

ما كانش العدد الكبير

There wasn't a large number.

وكان غالي

And it was expensive.

حتى جوا الحكومة كان غالي

Even inside the government, it was expensive.

يعني كان غالي وما كانش عدد كبير

It was expensive and there weren't many of them.

وما كانش فيه اماكن

And there were no places.

كان فيها شغل كثير لأن بقول لك كان لسه مش منتشر أو يعني أو ما كانش على الناس

There was a lot of work in it because I'm telling you it was not yet widespread or, you know, it wasn't among the people.

الكلينيكا فرماسيس بان تأثيره أو الانفلونس في المنظومة زي دلوقتي في

The clinical pharmacy has an impact or influence in the system like it does now.

الثانية وبالتالي ابتدى بقى يسمع الكلينيكا يعني 15 16 كده ابتدى يبقى

The second, and thus he started to listen to the clinic, like around 15 or 16, he began to become...

فيه سمعة الكلينيكا الأكثر كرب كان عالي بالضبط ما بقول لك بقى

The reputation of the clinic was exactly what I was telling you about.

ابتدى يدخل بقى مستشفيات كثير في كاهرة ابتدى برايفت سكتور عايز

He started to enter many hospitals in Cairo, beginning with the private sector, wanting to.

الكلينيكا وبالتالي ابتدى يبقى فيه طلب على الناس الباصة الجاهزة

The clinic, and thus there started to be a demand for people who are ready to assist.

الكلينيكا ما مش هيجيب حد لسه خارج الكلينيكا ممكن يساعد يعني يبقى

The clinic won't bring anyone; someone who has just left the clinic might be able to help, I mean.

في التيم لكن هو عايز حد توليد أو حد حد ينزل يشتغل من أول يوم

In the team, but he wants someone who can generate or someone who can start working from day one.

بالضبط وبالتالي ابتدى يبقى فيه.

Exactly, and thus it started to exist.

كلنا بقى تجهنا في 2016 و 17 نوائي بوست جراديت يعني هتلاقي السغير

We all headed towards postgraduate studies in 2016 and 2017, so you'll find the younger ones.

والكبير ابتدى ان هو ايه عايز ياخد حاجة بوست جراديت بدأ يتخرج دفعات

And the big one started to want to take something because of the graduate boosts; batches began to graduate.

فظيعة من فرمة ديبا بدأ كل الجماعات كل الجماعات ابتدت تعمل الديفراند

Terrible from the way Dipha was made, all the groups started to make the difference.

بروغرامز بقى دبلوما ايدي فارم دي ايدي يعني فمتنى ازاي كورس

Programs became a diploma, meaning I understood how the course works.

للأمريكان بورد بقى ابتدى تحطها معايا يعني واتفر كان السيرتيفيكت

For the Americans, the board has started to put it with me, so we were watching the certificate.

ابتدت حلوة يعني ابتدى تشوف ان في باشن عند الناس انها عايزة تاخد

It started to be sweet, meaning you began to see that there is a passion among people wanting to take.

سيرتيفيكت و باتعة السيرتيفيكت اللي انت حاططها انا احط لك

The certificate and the certificate you put, I'll put it for you.

بروغرام اعايز دبلوما اوكي عايز فارم دي اوكي عايز وهكذا تمام

I want a program, okay? I want a diploma, okay? I want this form, okay? I want, and so on, alright?

فابتدى يبقى في ايه عدد كبير عدد كبير وابتدى مش كده وبس ابتدى

So it started to become a large number, a very large number, and it didn't just stop there, it started...

كمان اللي داخل صيدلة جديد ما كانش كتير بيحاول.

Also, the one who just joined the pharmacy wasn't trying very hard.

يدخل الحكاية دي للقسط بتاعها او لان مش فاهم بتاعه كان رايح فين

He enters this story for its part or because he doesn't understand where it's going.

صح فلما ابتدى يبقى في السوق في طلب على حاجة اسمها او ابتدى يتسمى

Yes, so when he started to be in the market in search of something called or began to be named.

ان في اا اا اا اا او ابتدى يبقى في اسمه ابتدى كله بقى عايز كله

That in the beginning, when it started, it became known, and everyone started wanting everything.

فتح بقى حكاية دي وبالتالي ده غير بقى الجماعات اللي دخلت بقى في

The story has opened up, and this is in addition to the groups that have now entered.

ال.

The.

في المنظومة التعليمية بقى اهلية خاصة فابتدى دفعات كتير بتطلع كتير

In the educational system, there are now private institutions, and many batches have started graduating frequently.

بتطلع اا السوق مش محتاج كلها وبعدين انت عندك اصلا الدنيا عبارة عن

You go to the market, you don’t really need it all, and besides, you already have everything.

ايه ما هو يا برايفيت سيكتور يا جورنمنتال سيكتور صح البرايفيت في

What is it, private sector or governmental sector? The private sector is true.

برضو شقين في شق في الاول كان يهمه انا هو يشتغل ويفهم يعني ويقول ان

There are also two aspects; one aspect in the beginning was that he cared about him working and understanding, meaning he says that...

في السيرفس بتاعته وابتدى يبقى فيه اتجاه ان هو يستعين بكلينيكا عنده بشكل

In its service, there has been a trend for him to utilize his clinic in a way that

سابت ويكبر معاه ويطور منه وما الى ذلك كسيرفس وكاكا يعني عايزة اقول ايه

I want to say that he grows and develops with it, and so on, like Service and Kaka. What do I mean?

بيعالي من الاسم او السهم بتاعه في لطاقة البرايفيت سيكتور صح وبعد فترة ابتدى مش

Selling high from the name or the stock in the private sector, right? Then after a while, it started not to.

الريال بط ابتدى الاهتمام بكلينيكا ليقل شكل عام.

The interest in the clinic has generally decreased.

لا مش هقول بشكل عام بردو السياسة او رؤية المستشفى يعني في مستشفيات تقول لك اه

No, I won't say in general, but the policy or vision of the hospital means some hospitals might tell you yes.

الكلينيكا ده حاجة اه مهمة حاجة لازم تبقى موجودة وتقدي شغلها في في

This clinic is something important that must be present and carry out its work properly.

مناخ كويس يعني ده ده لا غنى عنه وفي اماكن تقول لك لا والله انا عايزها

A good climate means this is indispensable, and in some places, they tell you, "No, I really want it."

معين ومش فارق معايا هو يشتغل حلو يشتغل واحش.

It doesn't matter to me whether he works well or poorly.

ما قد حل مش ما قد واحش هو يبقى موجود انا عايزه يجي ويروح يروح ويجي انا

What has happened is not what is unpleasant; it will remain. I want it to come and go, to go and come to me.

بكلمة انا والله انه هو يعني انا عارف يعني اللي هو ده يبقى موجود

I swear to God, it means that I know this is what will be present.

ساعة وبعدين ممكن يشيلو الهات بتاع التيم عشان خاطر يوفروا ويخلو حد

In an hour, they might remove the team's hat to save money and have someone else take over.

صغير كده بس تستيف وراء لما يجي تاني يقوم جايب حد تاني يكمل بقية تستيف

It's just a little bit like that, but when he comes again, he'll bring someone else to complete the rest of the stacking.

وراء وكذا.

Behind and so on.

اه هو ده بس.

Ah, this is it.

يعني ده كل فكره عن عن مش مش فارق معه قوي يعني مش فارق معه اداءه قوي

It means this is the whole idea about it, it doesn't really matter much, I mean, his performance doesn't matter much.

مش بوشنج انه هو ياخد منه بس اكتران هو مش مش مش انت الراس نحن هنا

It's not a problem that he takes it from him, but it's more that you are not the one in charge; we are here.

نتكلم من لي على الحكومة لان الحكومة كده كده الحكومة في فترة

We are talking to the government anyway because the government is in a period.

اللي هو الفين وستاشر يعني الفين وستاشر ما كانش كل الحكومة مهتمة

In 2016, not all of the government was interested.

بحكاية ايه لما كان بيجي له اللي هو التكليف ما كانش يوظفهم كلهم

What story is there when he used to receive the assignments? He wouldn't employ all of them.

كانوا يدخلوا صرف اه كلهم كانوا يدخلوا صرف وكان يقول لك كده لازم ان

They would all enter the disbursement, and he would tell you that this must be the case.

هو يعدي عليه في الصرف السنة لسنتين يعني الفين وخمستاشر او

He will pass it in the spending, from one year to two years, meaning two thousand and fifteen or...

ستاشر كده كان حكاية ان يكون موجود اه كقسم في في في الحكومة ما كانش

It was about sixteen that there was a story of having a segment in the government; it didn’t exist.

لسه بهدوء للتمام بيقوي اه فكان كده الاغبال اكتر على شوية وبعدين

Still calmly to the fullest, yes, so it was like that, the mood was more inclined to a bit, and then...

ابتدى بقى ايه يعني الباريك يلمع اكتر للكلينيكل وابتدى اسميه

It started to shine more for the clinical, and I began to name it.

تلمع اكتر في فبتدى الناس تنجزب اكتر فهمتني ازاي للكلينيكل اه

"It shines more, so people start to be more attracted. Do you understand me regarding the clinical aspect? Yes."

فكل ده ادى الا ان الحكومة بقت تعتمد على كتير حلو هو احسن من

All of this led to the government relying on something much better than...

الاول بس لسه كتير لا لا لا والله يصدقني احسن كتير لا وبيشتغلوا

The first one, but still a lot, no, no, no, I swear to God, it's much better, no, and they are working.

وبيعملوا الشغل وانت بتقول لا محافظات كتير انا عارفة فيها شغلة

"They do the work and you say no, there are many governorates where I know there is work."

حلوة اجي وعمليني بشغلة هيل جدا حافظة الشرقية يعني بلاش يعني

It's nice to come and do this thing for free, especially since I'm from Sharqia.

محافظة الشرقية دي مليانة مستشفيات كام مستشفى في الشرقية فيها

The Sharqia Governorate is full of hospitals. How many hospitals are there in Sharqia?

هو تقريبا واحدة او اتنين هم اللي فيهم الشرقية يعني يعني

It's almost one or two that have the Eastern region, you know.

الادارة ادارة اه او مديرين الادارة بتاعة لا شغالين يعني انا

The management is management, or the managers of the management are not working, I mean, me.

بشوفهم شغالين شغالين اه يعني شغالين جدا لا يعني انا انا بكلمك

I see them working, working a lot, yes, I mean they are working a lot. No, I mean I am talking to you.

على مستوى الناس بس عشان خاطر مظلمش الناس اي حد يعني اللي

At the level of people, just to avoid misjudging anyone.

اسمها

Her name.

عليها بقوا لا ولسما عليها ده خلط عشان التأمين الشامل فخلاص بقى

They stayed on it, no, and it was mixed for the comprehensive insurance, so that's it then.

الكلينيكا لو أخذ بضعة قوي كمان بقى يعني اخذ الجهار ببعض

The clinic, if it took some strong things, then I mean it took the device with some.

الاماجي يعني يعني ابتدوا يعني ابتدوا انا بكلمك ان في في فترة

The meaning of "the image" is that they started, I mean they started. I'm telling you that there was a period.

كده كان ابتدى يبقى على فبتدى يبقى البرانس يميل اللي هو الحكومة

It was starting to become, so the governors, meaning the government, began to lean.

بقت عايزاهم اكتر تمام والبرايفيت مش واخد كتير

She wants them more, and the private part isn't taking much.

وهو هو برايفيت اصلا في الاساس يعني نسبته للحكومة قليلة.

It is private in nature, which means its association with the government is minimal.

وكان من برايفيت عايز كليكل اذا كليكل ما احنا اتفقنا تمام? فابتدى

And there was someone from Private who wanted to make a click, so if Click Click, we agreed, okay? So it started.

اه ابتدى الاقوال على كليكل يزيد فترة ما كلنا كنا زي فراشات

Oh, the statements began about Klykle, increasing the period when we were all like butterflies.

بنجري على الدقة. وبعد نجرينا كلنا اتحافظنا فوق الواحد صح?

We're running for accuracy. And after we all ran, we maintained above one, right?

اه. وابتدينا نبص على وضعينا.

Ah. And we started to look at our situation.

بعد فترة من الزمن، وبعد الشهادات،

After a period of time, and after the testimonies,

قمت بأخذ بورد أو فارمي دي أو زمالة أو دبلومة عامة

I completed a board or a pharm D or a fellowship or a general diploma.

وكورسات وكورسات وكورسات،

And courses and courses and courses,

وقمت بإطفاء وتقعص، أليس كذلك؟

And I turned off and retreated, didn't I?

في النهاية.

In the end.

في النهاية، تقف هكذا،

In the end, you stand like this,

سواء كان صغيراً أو كبيراً.

Whether it is small or large.

هو الصغير الذي قطع بدري عننا.

He is the little one who left us early.

نحن في داخلنا نمشي، هو الذي قطع بدري عننا.

We are walking inside ourselves; he is the one who cut off early from us.

وهذه هي المشكلة التي نقوم بها في الفيزياء.

And this is the problem we encounter in physics.

أنت وصلت إلى ماذا؟

What have you arrived at?

أنت لديك مشكلة في الحكومة.

You have a problem with the government.

نحن قلنا دلوقتي،

We said now,

أنه يريد أكثر.

He wants more.

حكتين.

Two tales.

أول شيء،

The first thing,

الهيراركي،

the hierarchy,

أو أنه لا يوجد هيكل تنظيمي ووظيفي واضح بمنامح واضحة،

Or that there is no clear organizational and functional structure with distinct features,

هو أنت كنت ماذا؟

What were you?

وبعد ذلك،

And after that,

لو أخذت كذا،

If you took this,

ستبقى ماذا؟

What will you remain?

وبعد ذلك،

And after that,

ستبقى ماذا؟

What will you remain?

لا يوجد.

There isn't any.

وبالتالي،

Therefore,

الذي كان له 10 أو 12 سنة،

who was 10 or 12 years old,

مثل الذي جاء لك امبارح،

Like the one who came to you yesterday,

لا يوجد أي شيء.

There is nothing.

كله نفس المسمى الوظيفي.

It's all the same job title.

نعم.

Yes.

كله نفس المسمى الوظيفي.

It's all the same job title.

سيدالي كلينيكي وخلاص.

Clinical pharmacist and that's it.

شكراً.

Thank you.

وبعد ذلك،

And after that,

أنت الذي أعطيه كمدير التطش،

You are the one I give it to as the director of the drilling.

هذا سينيور،

This is a senior.

وهذا متسينيور،

And this is a messiah.

وهذا جونيور،

And this is Junior,

وبشكل ودي بيننا.

In a friendly manner between us.

بشكل ودي.

In a friendly manner.

نعم.

Yes.

وهذا كونسلتر العظيمة والعظيمات التي لا أعرف ماذا.

And this is the great consulate, and the great women, which I do not know what.

لكن لا،

But no,

لا يوجد أي شيء على الأرض.

There is nothing on Earth.

قل له اسمه في النقابة،

Tell him his name is in the union.

ماذا كان،

What was it,

أخذ مسمى شهادات نفسها كلها،

It took the name of its certificates entirely.

على بعضها،

on top of each other,

أخصائي.

Specialist.

يعني لا يفرق الدبلومة عن البورد،

It means that there is no difference between a diploma and a board.

عن الفورمي دي،

About the form of the D,

يعني كله يأخذ أخصائي.

It means everything requires a specialist.

صح؟

Right?

وبالتالي،

Therefore,

أنت لم تفرق لا في الشهادة.

You did not differentiate even in the testimony.

يعني الذي ذهب ودفع في شهادته 55 ألف

It means the one who went and paid 55,000 for his testimony.

لكي يأخذ 60 ألف في الفورمي دي،

To get 60 thousand in the Form D,

مثلاً،

For example,

لم يفرق عن الأخذ دبلومة 10-13 ألف.

It did not differ from obtaining a diploma by 10-13 thousand.

الذي قاعد سنتين يدرس،

The one who sat for two years studying,

وعمال يلف على 6-7-8 مستشفي،

"And workers are going around to 6-7-8 hospitals."

وكل مستشفى يأخذ فيها 6 أسابيع،

And each hospital takes 6 weeks.

ويمتحن،

And he tests,

والأساس،

The basis,

ما فرقش عن اللي أخذها في 10 شهور،

It's no different from the one who took it in 10 months.

صح؟

Right?

سنة دراسية،

Academic year,

وترمين،

And you are throwing,

وبالتالي،

Consequently,

إنت دينا بقى اللي بقى شهادة واثنين وثلاثة،

You are now Dena who has one, two, and three certificates.

ما فيش أي،

There's nothing.

يعني ما فيش أي نطة في الهيكر الوظيفي تماماً،

It means there is no jump in the job structure at all.

ما فيش أي تايتل حتى بيتاخد،

There is no title that can be taken at all.

يعني،

It means,

فطيب،

Well then,

خلاص،

That's it,

يعني ما فيش تايتل،

It means there is no title.

ما فيش فلوس،

There is no money.

يعني،

I mean,

دار مستيمة،

Dar Mustimah,

يعني،

It means,

فيش أي حاجة خالص،

There is absolutely nothing.

طيب،

Okay,

يعني،

It means,

طيب،

Okay,

اديني برستيشي،

Give me a cigarette.

يعني،

It means,

اديني حتى تأديري،

Give me until my evaluation.

إن أنا،

If I,

يعني،

It means,

سقفني،

"Roof me,"

يعني،

I mean,

قولي،

Say,

إن برافو عليك،

Bravo to you!

ما هو مش معقول الحكومة تقولك برافو عليك بـ 45 جنيه،

It's unbelievable that the government tells you "well done" for 45 pounds.

إنت بقاش أنت دفع قد كده،

"You have become so much more expensive."

في الأخير تقولك 45 جنيه،

In the end, it's 45 pounds.

لابتقى بضو 100 جنيه،

I will remain with the light of 100 pounds.

فيعني،

It means,

شكرا،

Thank you,

صح؟

Right?

إن ده وقت ومجهود،

This is a time and effort.

وعلى فكرة الـ Clinical،

By the way, the Clinical,

أصلاً،

Originally,

شغل ومجهود،

Effort and hard work,

إنت بتتكلم عن الأوزوف البعض اللي في الـ Clinical،

You are talking about the odds of some in the clinical.

أنا بأتكلمك عنها صغيرة وكبير،

I am talking to you about it when it's small and when it's big.

صغية الليلة قطها بدري،

The phrase "صغية الليلة قطها بدري" translates to "Tonight's small gathering is early."

أنا مش هاخد فلوس،

I won't take any money.

صح؟

Right?

وفي نفس الوقت،

At the same time,

الكبير بتاعي اللي علمني،

My elder who taught me,

ما هو،

What is it,

ما أخدش حاجة،

He didn't take anything.

يعني،

I mean,

ما أخدش تايتل،

He didn't take the title.

صح؟

Is that right?

وفي نفس الوقت،

At the same time,

أنا بعد سنتين،

I am after two years,

ثلاثة،

Three,

بقيت شاطر،

You remained clever.

أو بقيت كويس،

Or I stayed well,

ومن غير شهادة،

And without testimony,

صح؟

Right?

أي لا،

No,

خليني أروح أخد شهادة،

Let me go get a certificate.

لا الحكومة تديني فلوس،

The government doesn't give me money.

ولا الخاص،

Nor the private,

دلوقتي بقى أطالب كتير زي الأول،

Now I demand a lot like before.

لإن المعروض،

Because the display,

بقى أكتر كتير من حاكم السوق،

He remained much more than the market ruler.

أخدك لي أدي لك مرتب قد كدا،

I will take you for a salary of this much.

ما في وحد صغير،

There is no one small,

هو لسه متخرج،

He just graduated.

والحمسه أخده قوي يعني،

"And the enthusiasm is quite strong, you know."

والحمسه أخده،

And the enthusiasm is contagious.

هجيبه ملالين،

I will bring him a lot of money.

بالضبط أجيب ثلاثة،

Exactly, I will answer three.

نفس الموضوع،

The same topic,

يمشي ويغير،

He walks and changes.

ونفضل كدا،

We prefer it this way.

وعلشان كدا ترن أوفر،

And that's why it rings over.

على فكرة لو بصيت،

By the way, if you look,

في البرايفيت،

In private,

عالي جدا،

Very high.

ترن أوفر عالي جدا،

Very high turnover.

طب والحكومة،

And what about the government?

عندنا شقين،

We have two aspects,

عندنا الناس بتدخل،

People come in here.

الحماس وكلها،

Enthusiasm and all of it,

هو كلينيكال بقى،

He became clinical now.

وفلوس بابا وماما،

And Dad and Mom's money,

اللي دفعوه في كلينيكال،

What they paid in clinical.

ازا كلينيكال بروبرام،

If clinical program,

وكلام دا كله،

And all this talk,

وبعدين تدخل الحكومة،

"And then the government intervenes,"

إيه دا،

What is this?

دا ما فيش أي فرق بيني وبين صيدالي الصرف،

There is no difference between me and the dispensing pharmacist.

صح؟

Right?

بالعكس بتشيل شاير التين،

On the contrary, you take the fig.

دا أنا ممكن كمان شايل الحالة،

Here I might also be carrying the situation.

ومروح بيها بذكرها،

"And I will go to her while mentioning her."

وبفكر فيها وأنا نايم وأنا صاحي،

"I think about it when I'm sleeping and when I'm awake."

وجاري الصبح بدري،

And the morning is approaching early,

عايز أشوف النرسة الحقها،

I want to see the nurse, hurry up.

وعايز أتنام دا كله،

And I want to sleep all of this.

لكن صيدالي الصرف قفل الساعة اتنين ونص،

But the pharmacy closes at two-thirty.

وشكرا،

Thank you.

وخلص على كدا مع أمين الوحدة،

"And that's how it ended with the unit head."

يعني بيبشروا،

It means they are bringing good news.

وبيشرفوا عليه،

"And they oversee it,"

وما فيش responsibility عليه،

"And there is no responsibility on him."

لا معنويا،

No, not figuratively.

ولا بأي شكل،

Not in any way,

لكن إنت،

But you,

قطط قدام مديرتك الرخمة،

Cats in front of your annoying manager,

صح؟

Right?

لا طبعا،

No, of course not.

مديرتك اللي هو إيه،

Your manager, what is it?

إيه دا،

What is this?

إنت زي المعمل دا،

You are like this lab,

ما شفتوش إزاي الدوس دي،

I didn't see how this is done.

ما تعمل لهاش adjustment،

Don't make any adjustments for her.

ما خدتش بالك،

You didn't notice.

ليه إني فيه هنا،

Why am I here?

كمية التفاصيل أكبر بكتير قوي،

The amount of details is much bigger.

يعني كمية تفاصيل كتير جدا،

It means a lot of details.

إنت لازم تبقى عيني الصقرة عليها،

You have to keep an eye on her.

وإنسى طيب،

And forget it, fine.

صح؟

Right?

دا في الحالة الوحدة،

This is in the single case,

علشان خاطر ما يحصلش أي leakage،

In order to prevent any leakage,

أو أي skipping،

Or any skipping,

أو أي حاجة،

Or anything.

صح؟

Right?

وبالتالي هم،

Therefore, they,

يعني الصغيرين،

It means the little ones.

ابتدا يعزفوا،

They started to play.

إنه هم يرجعوا تاني،

They want to come back again.

يطلبوا،

They ask.

إنه هم يبطكوا تصرف،

They are going to shock you with their behavior.

أو يطلبوا،

Or they ask,

إنه هو،

It is him.

أو هم من نفسهم كدا،

Or are they like that themselves?

ما عندهمش أي حماس،

They have no enthusiasm at all.

إنه هم يتكملوا،

They are completing it.

حلو قوي،

Very nice,

إحنا واخدين clinical،

We are taking clinical.

واسمنا clinical في المستشفى،

And our name is clinical in the hospital.

لكن أنا أبو حفيظة،

But I am Abu Hafiza.

بروح الساعة 10،

I will go at 10 o'clock.

يعني ببتدي الساعة 8 ونص،

It means I'm starting at 8:30.

وخلص الساعة 2،

And it finished at 2 o'clock.

وشكرا،

And thank you,

ولا حد هيقولك برافو،

And no one will say to you "Bravo,"

ولا حد هيديلك حاجة زيادة،

And no one will give you anything extra.

وزي زي زميلي،

Just like my colleague,

وحتى الترقية زي زي زميلي،

"And even the promotion is just like my colleague's."

خالص تمام،

Absolutely fine.

صح؟

Right?

نيجي بقى للكبار،

Now let's move on to the adults.

اللي هم،

The ones who are,

يعني أو اللي هم،

I mean, or those who are,

يعني كان بقى لهم بعتة كبير في المجال،

It means they had a significant presence in the field.

صح؟

Right?

وده لما بشوفه في المطمارات،

And this is when I see him in the competitions,

أو بشوف الناس،

"Or I see people,"

اللي إحنا كبرناهم،

Those we raised.

أو اللي اشتغلوا في الوقت بتاعنا،

Or those who worked in our time,

وكبروا أصلا،

And they grew up originally,

وكلنا،

And all of us,

تقريبا،

Almost,

تقريبا كلنا،

Almost all of us,

يعني،

It means,

مشينا من المجال،

We walked away from the field.

أولاً لعدم التقدير،

Firstly, for lack of appreciation,

لأنك أنت بتوصل لمرحلة،

Because you reach a stage,

اللي هو خالص،

That is completely finished.

taking for guarantee،

taking as a guarantee,

اللي هو ده حق مكتسب،

This is a granted right.

ده أمر،

This is an order.

أو ده وقع خالص،

Oh, this fell completely.

بقى موجود،

It remains present.

اللي هو ده بارت من دي موجودة،

This is a part that exists in this.

وشغالة،

And a worker,

وبتشتغل،

"And you work,"

والسيستم مماشي،

And the system is working.

والناس بتروح وبتيجي،

People come and go.

وشغالة،

And she is working.

صح؟

Right?

بس أنت متبقاش عارف،

But you shouldn't be aware.

هو شغالة إزاي،

How does it work?

ولا شغالة على أنقاض أعصابك إزاي،

And no one is working on the ruins of your nerves, how?

تمام؟

Okay?

لأنه تفاصيل كتير،

Because there are many details,

وإنت أزاهد،

And you are ascetic,

بتلم حاجات كتير،

You collect many things,

صح؟

Right?

الناس الكبار،

The adults,

مش لقين تقدير،

We didn't find appreciation.

لا معناوي،

No meaning.

ولا مادتي،

Nor my subject,

زي من؟

Like who?

كبارت،

Kibart,

وكبرت الدنيا،

And the world grew larger,

أو عملنا،

Or our work,

أو سوينا،

Or we did.

ولا أي حاجة،

Nothing at all,

حاضرت لك سيدة زال،

I have prepared for you Mrs. Zal,

اسمك clinical pharmacist،

Your name is clinical pharmacist.

سيبت من،

Who will be left from?

كمديرة يعني،

As a director, it means...

لكن أنا بتكلم عن الكبار،

But I am talking about adults.

بعد كده،

After that,

حاضرتك اسمك أخ الصائد،

Your name is Brother of the Hunter.

صائد صيدارة الكلينيكية،

The hunter of clinical prey,

بتبدا موجود،

It starts existing,

إن شاء الله 10،

God willing, 10.

12،

12,

20 سنة،

20 years.

هو اسمك كده،

Is that your name?

ولكن علشان خاطر برضو إيه،

But for the sake of what, too,

أكامل معلومة،

Complete information,

وأنا يعني،

And I mean,

عندي وثقة من اللي أنا بقوله ده،

I have confidence in what I'm saying.

لأن يقال،

So that it is said,

إنه هو حاليا في دراسة فعلا،

He is currently studying indeed.

لقانون أو مشروع حقيقي،

For a true law or project,

علشان خاطر يبتدي يحصل،

So that it can begin to happen,

هيكل تنظيمي،

Organizational structure,

للحاصلين على الشهادات العلمية،

For those who hold academic degrees,

في مجال الصيدارة الكلينيكية،

In the field of clinical pharmacy,

دي معلومة،

This is information,

ده من حد أنا قطعت فيه،

This is from someone I cut off.

إنه هو بالفعل بيتم دراسة،

It is indeed being studied.

أو هم قائمين حاليا على دراسة،

Or they are currently conducting a study.

إنه هم يبتدوا يضعوا المعايير المختلفة،

They are starting to set different standards.

اللي هو اللي حاصلين على الشهادات كذا،

Those who hold such certificates.

وبعد مرور كذا عام على أهليهم،

And after several years have passed for their families,

نتقدر إحنا كنا شوفنا حاجة زي كده من حوالي،

We appreciate that we had seen something like this a while ago.

كان، كان،

It was, it was.

سحر 7 أو 8 سنين،

Magic for 7 or 8 years.

مقترح يعني،

A suggestion means,

صح؟

Right?

لكن دلوقتي،

But right now,

وكان فيه معمول نظام نقاط،

There was a point system in place,

وكل دراسة ليها عدد نقاط،

Each study has a number of points.

لا، النقاط دي،

No, these points,

دي معمولة بيها،

It is made with it.

عشان خاطر مين يلي يلتحق بالصيدلة الكلينيكية،

For the sake of whom should one pursue clinical pharmacy?

بالقسم،

By oath,

بالقسم في ممارسة الصيدلة،

In the pharmacy practice department,

لكن أنا بكلم حضرتك،

But I am talking to you, sir.

اللي هو مين يقول عليه أخصائي أول،

Who is the one they call a senior specialist?

وأخصائي تاني،

And another specialist,

ومين يقول عليه استشاري،

"Who calls him a consultant?"

ما كان تقريبا فيه حاجة زي كده،

There wasn't really anything like that.

كان مقترح،

It was proposed,

أنا عارف أن هو كان مقترح،

I know that it was a proposal.

هو غالبا كان مقترح،

He was often proposed.

لأنه ما فيش حاجة زي دي شوفناها،

"Because we've never seen anything like this."

إنه مثلا إنت لو أخذت فارمي دي،

For example, if you took the Fermi D,

ومعك خمس سنين براكتس،

And you have five years of practice.

يبقى أنت كده استشاري،

You still remain a consultant.

لو فارمي دي و سنتين تبقى خصائي،

If you have been studying for two years, you will be a specialist.

يعني كان في حاجة زي كده،

It means there was something like that.

كان مقترح من كده،

It was proposed from that.

وأنا عارفة مين كان ساحب المقترح،

And I know who was behind the proposal.

كان دماغه حلو على فكرة،

His brain was sweet, by the way.

وكان عامل مقترح،

And it was a proposed factor,

وكان متقدم بيل في النقابة،

Bill was advanced in the union.

محمد عبد العزيز،

Mohamed Abdel Aziz,

كان عامل مقترح،

He was a proposed worker.

وفي النهاية ما فيش أي حاجة من دي تنقفز،

In the end, none of this can be ignored.

ما ما شوفتش معرش،

I didn't see anything, I don't know.

بس قال لنا،

He just told us,

مع أصدقائي يعني،

With my friends, I mean.

واللي أنا أعرفه،

And what I know is,

إنه هو فعلاً دلوقتي قائمين عليه،

He is indeed currently being handled.

بس هو مشكلة قائمين عليه بعد خراب ملطة،

But the problem is with those in charge after the disaster in Malte.

في نقطة خطيرة،

At a dangerous point,

دلوقتي إحنا،

Now we are,

تسألتش ليش الناس دي راحت فين أصلاً الكبار،

I wondered where all the grown-ups have actually gone.

لأ ما أنا عارف مانا رحت مانا،

No, I don't know. I didn't go.

أنا من اللي راحوا على فكرة،

I am one of those who left, you know.

بس الأغلبية طلعوا برا الكارير خالص،

But the majority completely left the career.

شفيتوا برا،

You healed outside.

آه يعني بص بقى ما هو دي قصة بقى،

Oh, well, look, this is quite a story.

فيه ناس طلعت برا الكارير خالص،

There are people who have completely left the career.

فيه ناس اتتادت تبص على،

There are people who tend to look at.

ما بقولك،

I won't tell you.

إحنا كنا نتحشرنا في أودا واحدة،

We used to crowd into one room.

ابتدى فيه ناس تبص على الأودا،

People started to look at the oda.

إنها بقت زحمة،

It has become crowded.

واتملت،

And it was fulfilled.

وما فيش حاجة في المستقبل يعني،

"And there is nothing in the future, I mean,"

فابتدت تلجأ لإيه؟

So she started to resort to what?

للـ quality،

For quality,

تحشروا بردو في أودا،

"You will also gather in the afterlife."

وبعدين ابتدينا للجاء لـ nutrition،

Then we started to turn to nutrition.

تحشرنا في أودا تانية،

"We are gathered in another deep."

تمام؟

Okay?

بقى عادة كبير جداً،

It remained a very large habit.

بياخد حاجات بوست للـ nutrition،

He takes post items for nutrition.

سواء بقى...

Whether it remains...

والـ nutrition أصلاً داخل فيه غير صيادلة،

And nutrition originally includes professionals other than pharmacists.

والـ nutrition أصلاً فيه دخلاء،

The field of nutrition originally has intruders.

ما شاء الله يعني،

What God has willed, I mean,

زراعة بياخدوا nutrition،

Agriculture requires nutrition.

التمريد بياخدوا nutrition،

Nursing students take nutrition.

أي حاجة،

Anything.

وـ quality يعني،

And quality means,

يعني فهمتني،

You mean you understood me?

زي فقف المجالات،

Like a niche,

إنت معاك صيادلة،

You have pharmacists.

ومعاك دخلاء،

"And with you, there are intruders,"

فبالتالي يعني،

So, that means,

كل مادة،

Every subject,

الأوض عمالة،

The situation is unstable.

تتملي،

You are completing.

تزحم،

Crowded.

فالناس اتتادت تبص دلوقتي على management،

People have started to focus now on management.

اللي أنا كنت بتددي،

What I was giving.

في الأول خمس،

In the beginning, five.

ولسه ما انتهي بيها أنا فكرة ما زوي يعني أنا...

"And I'm still not done with it, I mean, I'm..."

تخدي MBA دلوقتي؟

Are you doing an MBA now?

آآ بعمل MBA آآ،

I am doing an MBA.

فتلاقي بردو اللي هو كله دلوقتي بقى يعني بياخد management،

So you also find that everyone now is basically taking management.

وسواء كان الميجا أو يعني الكور بتاعه،

Whether it's the mega or its core,

حاجة بقى كتير يعني هذا health economics،

It has become a lot, meaning this is health economics.

ما ودلوقتي فيه أوضة تانية بتتملي اسمها health economics،

Right now, there is another room being filled called health economics.

ماشي؟

Are we good?

وفيه أوضة رابعة بتتملي اسمها strategic management،

And there is a fourth room that is being filled, called strategic management.

و hospital logistics،

and hospital logistics,

وكلام ده كله،

And all this talk,

فإحنا كل شوية أعددنا جديد،

"We are constantly preparing something new."

أعددنا كبيرة،

We have prepared a feast.

السوء مش مستحمل ده كله،

The evil cannot bear all of this.

الخليج قفل علينا،

"The Gulf has closed off on us,"

فإحنا مش عارفين نقول إيه؟

So we don’t know what to say?

حشرنا جوه مصر،

"We were gathered inside Egypt,"

وعمالين نتنطط من مكان لمكانهم خلاص،

"And we are jumping from one place to another, that's it."

طيب،

Okay,

ده هيقودنا بقى للنقطة اللي جاية بقى،

This will lead us to the next point.

أصطنع،

I fabricate.

البودكاست ده لما ينزل الحلقة بتاعته،

This podcast, when it releases its episode,

أنا متأكد هيجي comments من الشباب الصغيرين بقى،

I'm sure there will be comments from the younger guys now.

نعم ليه؟

Yes, why?

قفلتونا الدنيا،

You locked us out of the world,

أنتو سويتوها في وشنا،

You did it in our face.

قفلتونا الدنيا،

You have closed the world on us.

في أول الحلقة كنت متفائل،

At the beginning of the episode, I was optimistic.

وعمال أقول والكلينيكال والإنجازات،

And I keep saying the clinical and the achievements,

بس،

Just,

في آخر الحلقة حسيت إنو،

At the end of the episode, I felt that...

أنا كرهت الكلينيكال وكرهت الكلية كلها،

I hated clinical and I hated the whole college.

طيب إحنا نعمل إيه؟

Okay, what should we do?

مع العلم إنو،

Knowing that,

حتى في مجال الكلينيكال،

Even in the clinical field,

في المستشفيات اللي هو promising،

In the hospitals that are promising,

حسب كلام حاضرتك،

According to what you said,

التكليف خلاص،

The assignment is done.

مش تكليف،

Not a task,

يعني حتى الأمل في التكليف،

It means even the hope in the assignment.

إن أنا أشتغل في الحكومة،

If I work in the government,

فاكر لما جيت قلتلك الكلينيكال اللي هما داخلين،

Do you remember when I came and told you about the clinical people who are coming in?

التكليف الكلينيكال فيه شقين،

The clinical assignment has two parts.

الشق اللي هو خلاص بيهتمد إن هو أبو حفيزة،

The part that is definitely dependent on him being Abu Hafiza,

ورايح جاي الشغل،

Going back and forth to work,

صح؟

Right?

ومش عايز يكمل،

"And he doesn't want to continue,"

أو بيرجع يقول أنا أكمل صرف،

Or he goes back and says, "I will continue spending."

لكن قبل ما أقول لك الشق الثاني،

But before I tell you the second part,

أنا هسألك سؤال،

I'm going to ask you a question.

هو كلية سعدالة معروفة إنها كلية إيه؟

It is Saadallah College, what college is it known as?

كلية بنات؟

Girls' college?

وبالتالي،

Therefore,

أنا كل شوية،

I am every little while,

البنات بتيجي بعد التكليف،

The girls come after the assignment.

أصلا عشان يسترموا،

Just so they can cover it up,

بيبقى من سنتين لثلاث سنين،

It lasts for two to three years.

يعني الهوى سن الجواز،

It means love is the age of marriage.

وبالتالي،

Therefore,

حضرتك بيبقى عندك على الورق،

You have it on paper.

سي عندك متين سيدالي،

Do you have a strong pharmacist?

لكن في الواقع أنت عندك تسعة،

But in reality, you have nine.

تيجي تقول لهم يا جماعة أنا عندي شورتج،

You come and tell them, "Guys, I have a shortage."

إزاي؟

How?

أنت ما عندكش شورتج،

You don't have a shortage.

يا أخواننا أنا عندي شورتج،

Oh our brothers, I have a shortage.

لا أنت ما عندكش شورتج،

No, you don't have a shortage.

الواقع شيء،

Reality is one thing,

واللي على الورق شيء،

And what is on paper is one thing,

واللي بيشتغلوا بقى من النسبة دي شيء،

"And those who work from that percentage is one thing,"

وعلشان كده إحنا،

And that's why we,

ليلة،

Night,

بيقل بسبب حاجات كتير،

It decreases because of many things,

آدم الاهتمام،

Adam's interest,

واللي بيدخل كتير منهم،

And those who enter a lot of them,

بيخرج،

He is going out.

بسبب أو بآخر،

For one reason or another,

طيب،

Okay,

عايز نصيحة صديقة،

I want a friend's advice.

لو بنت حضرتك،

If your daughter,

دخلها سيدالة،

He entered the pharmacy.

لا لا لا،

No, no, no.

مش دخلها سيدالة أصلا،

He didn't enter the pharmacy at all.

والله أنا عملتها مع إبني،

I swear I did it with my son.

أنا رفضت إنه هو يدخل هذا الكارير،

I refused to let him enter this career.

الحمد لله،

All praise is due to Allah.

لو افترضنا،

If we assume,

بس أنا كده صوتها،

"But this is her voice."

لأنه اللي هي،

Because that's what it is,

لا لا عادي،

No, it's okay.

أنا الكلام ده بقوله يعني،

I'm saying this, you know.

كنت لسه منزل فيديو أصلا،

I had just uploaded a video, actually.

أنا دلوقتي،

I am now,

باتكلم فيه عن سيدالة كلها،

I'm talking about the entire pharmacy.

على فكرة أنا كنت بحب سيدالة جدا،

By the way, I used to love pharmacy very much.

بس السيدالة دي كانت،

But this pharmacy was,

من 35 سنة كده يعني،

About 35 years ago, I mean,

كان حاجة براقة،

It was a shiny thing.

واللي دخلها ده يعني،

And whoever gets involved in it, يعني,

إحنا كنا جايبين مجموعة طب،

We were bringing a group of doctors.

بس إحنا دخلنا سيدالة،

But we entered the pharmacy.

دلوقتي،

Now,

كان حاجة براقة،

It was a dazzling need.

وكانت الأعداد قليلة،

The numbers were few.

فكنت مظلوب،

I was oppressed,

مظبوط،

That's right.

دلوقتي أنت،

Now you,

يعني كل ما الحاجة تبقى أبندنت،

It means whenever the thing becomes abundant,

كل ما قمت،

Everything you did,

ولسه الأعداد بتزيد،

And the numbers are still increasing,

يعني إحنا السنة دي بس،

I mean, just this year.

دخل حوالي 3-4 جامعات جديدة،

About 3-4 new universities have been entered.

بكليات سيدالة جديدة،

At the new faculties of pharmacy,

حتى كم بقى كلية بقى؟

How much time is left in college?

النهار ده،

Today,

سيدالة ده،

This is a pharmacy.

واخدها من 70%،

And it took it from 70%.

70%،

70%.

وتقريباً فيه جامعة،

And there's almost a university there.

واخدها من 68% جامعة أهلها،

And she got it from 68% at her university.

تقريباً،

Almost,

فاللي هو أعداد،

So what it is, is numbers.

أضعاف،

Doublings,

أضعاف اللي اتخرجوا،

Multiple times more than those who graduated.

هيتخرجوا في خلال العشر سنين اللي جايين،

They will graduate in the next ten years.

ده ما فيش هما 6،

This is not a matter of them being 6.

6 ايه؟

What verse?

6 سنين اللي جايين،

The next 6 years,

دول هتلاقي أعداد كبيرة جداً،

You'll find a huge number of countries.

بس الفترة دي،

But this period,

يعني مثلاً هناخد 3-4 دفعات،

For example, we will take 3-4 installments.

من اللي هم الجداد دول،

Who are these newcomers?

هتلاقي،

You will find,

هيروحوا فين بقى؟

Where are they going then?

السيدالة ملهمش مكان في أي كارير،

Pharmacy has no place in any career.

هتلاقي ناس هتقولك من الكبار،

You will find people who will tell you from the big ones.

هقولك لا،

I will tell you no.

على فكرة مصر محتاجة،

By the way, Egypt needs...

ومجالات السيدالة كتير جداً،

The fields of pharmacy are very numerous.

أنا معاكين مجالات السيدالة كتير جداً،

I am very familiar with the fields of pharmacy.

29 أو 32 مليون،

29 or 32 million,

كلهم متقفلين،

They are all locked up.

ما هو،

What is it?

احنا متقفلين،

We are closed.

وكلهم دخل معاك فيهم،

"And all of them joined you in it,"

ناس من بره أصلاً،

People from outside, actually.

بالضبط، بالضبط،

Exactly, exactly,

من أول السيدالية اللي وقف معاك فيها،

From the first pharmacy that stood by you.

الدبلوم،

The diploma.

والكلية،

and the college,

وكل حاجة،

And everything,

وفي قلب المصانع،

In the heart of the factories,

والشركات،

and the companies,

المصانع داخل معاك فيها علوم،

The factories have knowledge with you.

بطري وعلوم وزراعة،

Veterinary, sciences, and agriculture.

الشركات داخل فيها،

Companies are involved in it.

النوتريشن داخل فيها،

The nutrition is included.

الكلينيكل زي ما احنا شايفين،

The clinical, as we can see,

الأبحاث داخل فيها،

The research is included in it.

الأبحاث داخل فيها ناس كتير،

The research involves a lot of people.

فتقريباً،

So, approximately,

وبالتالي،

Therefore,

وده لأنه كل الجامعات برضو بتعاني نفس المعاناة،

This is because all the universities are also suffering from the same plight.

إنه كلهم بيتخرجوا بأعداد كبيرة،

They all graduate in large numbers.

ومش عارفين نروح فين،

And we don't know where to go.

فكل ليلة بنخبط في بعض،

"Every night we get into a fight."

فتلاقي حتى السيدالي بيثيب كريره،

So you find even the pharmacist securing their career.

ويروح يبص على كرير واحد تاني،

And he goes to look at another carrier.

إيه ده أنا عايز أشتغل في الشغلانة دي،

Yeah, I want to work in this job.

طيب،

Okay,

لو افترضنا،

Let's assume,

إنه في حد دلوقتي خلاص،

It's over by now.

تنسيه وجايب صيدلة،

Forget it, and bring a pharmacy.

وبيقول لك يا دكتورة،

And he says to you, oh doctor,

أدخل كلينيكل،

Enter clinical,

ولا خليني في جينيرال،

"Don't keep me in general."

وخلاص،

That's it.

أنا هسرف،

I will spend.

الموضوع مستاهل السرف اللي هسرفه؟

Is the topic worth the effort I will put into it?

والله إنه نصحت بيها حتى قريب لي،

By God, I have advised it to a close relative of mine.

أنه أدخل جينيرال،

He introduced a general.

وكمل بوست جرب فلوس،

And the post was completed, try money.

يعني أدخل جينيرال،

It means "Enter, General."

إتس أوكي،

It's okay,

واتخرج،

And I graduated.

إذا كنت ناوي تكمل كلينيكل،

If you intend to continue with the clinical (path).

خد لك أي شهادة،

Take any certificate.

خد لك شهادة محترمة،

Get yourself a respectable certificate.

يعني،

It means,

عايز فارمي دي،

I want to throw this away.

أوكي،

Okay,

فارمي دي اللي هو البوست جراد،

"Throw me the post-guard."

يعني عشان خطر ما بقيتش فاهمة المسميات الغريبة دي،

I mean, because I no longer understand these strange terms,

بس إتس أوكي،

But it's okay.

يعني فارمي دي بوست جراد،

It means "Throw me the post of the grasshopper."

خد لك فارمي دي بوست جراد،

"Take it, throw me that grasshopper post."

في الكاهرة أو في عين الشمس،

In Cairo or in the eye of the sun,

حاجة محترمة،

A respectable need.

تعليم كويس،

Good education,

هتروح أوتوريتيت على ديفنس سايتس،

You will go to the authority for defense sites.

هتعلم باتكال بفلوسك،

You will learn to rely on your money.

وهيبقى أنت في الكريتيريا،

"You will remain in the criteria."

لو يعني بقى فيه تكليف،

If there is a mandate, then...

أو فيه محترمة اللي أنت تدخل،

Or it's respectable that you enter.

هيبقى أنت خريج،

You will be a graduate.

وبعدين عاد عليك كذا سنة خبرة،

And then, you have a few years of experience.

مش عارف في المستشفى أو كدا،

I don't know in the hospital or something like that.

كل ده بتحسيب لك في السكورنج،

All of that is calculated for you in the scoring.

لإنت،

For you,

أو كذا،

Or something like that,

وبعدين أخدت حاجة سكورنج الكريتيريا بتاعتها 20،

Then I took something with a scoring criteria of 20.

أنت لو تخرجت كلينيكل،

If you graduated clinical,

كلينيكل،

Clinical,

أعتقد السكورنج بتاعتها 5 بوينتز بلس،

I think her scoring is 5 points plus.

وأنت دفع قد كدا،

And you have already paid.

طب أنت لما تتخرج جينيرال،

So when you graduate as a general,

وتاخد كلينيكل حاجة،

And you take a clinical thing,

فأنت بتتكلم لو بوردا 14 مثلاً،

"So you're talking about something like a 14-pound weight."

لو دبلومة 10،

If a diploma is 10,

لو فورميديا 20،

If ForMedia 20,

طب أنت تاخد،

So you take it,

في كل الأحوال هتعدي،

In any case, it will pass.

وبعدين أنت أخد،

And then you took,

ومش بتكلفة الخمس سنين بتوعي للكلينيك،

"And it's not about the cost of my five years for the clinic."

بالضبط مش بتكلفة الحاجة دي،

Exactly, it's not about the cost of that thing.

ووفر لنفسك،

Make it easy for yourself,

نقطة تانية،

Another point,

وخد ترينينج بقى،

And get some training then,

يعني أدفع من فلوس بقى برضو اللي أنت وفرتها دي ترينينج،

It means I'll pay with the money that you saved for the training.

حلو،

Sweet,

أنا عايز أكلف الترينينج،

I want to schedule the training.

في شكوى دلوقتي،

There is a complaint now.

مش لسه بقى بعد خمس سنين،

Not yet after five years,

في شكوى دلوقتي،

There is currently a complaint.

وبقالها سنتين،

It has been two years.

ثلاثة،

Three,

من طلبة كتير،

From many students,

عايزين يتدربوا كلينيكل،

They want to train clinically.

ومش لقين مكان يتدربوا فيه،

They couldn't find a place to train.

هو الشكوى مش كدا،

It's the complaint, not like that.

الشكوى أن الطلبة عايزين يتدربوا كلينيكل،

The complaint is that the students want to train clinically.

بس فلوس الترينينج بقت زايد،

But the training fees have increased.

دي نقطة تانية،

This is another point.

مش قصة أنهم مش لقين بالعكس،

It's not the story that they can't find, on the contrary,

دا كان زمان،

That was a long time ago,

يعني لما ابتدينا بقولك تدريب،

It means when we started with you saying training,

برضو أنا عارف أنت معظم الكلام على القاهرة،

I also know that most of the talk is about Cairo.

في الأقاليم فيه معاناة،

In the regions, there is suffering.

يعني أنا كنت ريستا الصيفي،

I mean I was the summer intern.

السنة اللي فاتت دي،

Last year,

كنت في بانيس ويف،

I was in Banis Wave,

وكنت في المينيا،

And I was in Minya,

خط الصعيد دا،

This is the Upper Egypt line.

فيه أزمة كبيرة،

There is a big crisis.

في أنه طلبة تدريب،

That he is a training student,

يعني عشان يتدربوا،

It means for them to train.

بيضطروا ينزلوا،

"They are forced to go down,"

هم عندهم مستشفى واحدة في المينيا،

They have one hospital in Minya.

اللي هي مستشفى المينيا،

which is Al-Minya Hospital,

فيها كلينيكل،

It has clinical.

ومش كلينيكل على مستوى عالي،

"And not every clinical aspect is at a high level,"

يعني يدوب هم إيه؟

What do they really mean?

بيعفروا،

They are joking.

فعلى شأن دفعة كبيرة،

So for a large batch,

دفعة كبيرة،

A large batch.

وكل الطلبة عايزة تتدرب،

All the students want to train.

هنتكلم على اللي دلوقتي،

We will talk about what is happening now.

ولا هنتكلم الـ 8 سنة؟

Aren't we going to talk for 8 years?

لا لا، في إحنا النهار دا،

No, no, today we have...

في الوضع اللي إحنا فيه،

In the situation we are in,

ما هنقولك ليه؟

Why should we tell you?

أنا بكلمك على 8 سنة أو دا،

I'm talking to you about 8 years or so.

لإن إحنا هندخل في بروبلم أكبر،

Because we will get into a bigger problem,

بعد سنة،

After a year,

أو في خلال السنة الجاية يعني،

Or within the next year, I mean,

اللي هو الناس اللي هم داخلين دفعات الفارم دي،

Which are the people who are entering these pharmacy batches,

اللي هم عندهم سنة التدريب،

Those who have a year of training,

اللي هو السنة بقى التدريب،

Which is the training year,

هيروح يتدربوا فين؟

Where are they going to train?

أنت مش بتكلم على الكاهرة بقى؟

Aren't you talking about Cairo anymore?

أنا بالنسبة لي أنا لسه ما عنديش تفاصيل،

As for me, I still don’t have any details.

عندك أي فكرة أو أصلك أي معلومة،

Do you have any idea or have any information?

عن نظام الامتياز دا هيبقى إزاي؟

How will the franchise system be?

نظام الامتياز إنه هو لو جنرال،

The franchise system, it is like a general.

هيبتدي يعني يروح بقى،

He will start to leave then.

يعني يلف بقى في مصانع،

It means to roam around factories.

أو يلف في Community Pharmacy،

Or wrap in Community Pharmacy,

أو يلف في كده،

Or he wraps it around him.

ماشي؟

Okay?

لكن لو هو نظام Clinical،

But if it is a Clinical system,

بتشيمينز إنه هو لازم هياخد سنة تدريبية إلزامية،

He must take a mandatory training year.

في مستشفيات، صح؟

In hospitals, right?

طب عندنا Two Problems،

We have two problems.

مستشفيات،

Hospitals,

أي مستشفيات اللي هتستواب هذه الأعداد،

Which hospitals will accommodate these numbers?

من الخارجين،

From the outsiders,

يعني أنا مثلاً،

I mean, for example,

Before أنا أمشي،

Before I walk,

كنت مفهودة اللي أنا هبقى مطالبة،

I understood that I would be required.

بخارجين جامعة القاهرة،

Graduates of Cairo University,

كوليسيادات القاهرة،

Cairo's colonies.

آه ماشي هتبقى Rotate،

Ah, okay, it will be Rotate.

بس دا عدد،

But that's a number.

ومجهود،

and effort,

أنت مش بتتحرك في خلال مثلاً فترة معينة،

You don't move within a certain period, for example.

لا، دا عدد ومجهود،

No, that's a number and effort.

وبقى أصبحت ملزم بيهم،

And I became obligated to them.

إللي أنت لازم تعمل لهم Training،

You need to provide them with training.

وبعدين أنت مسؤول إللي أنت تدربهم، صح؟ صح؟

And then you are responsible for those you are training, right? Right?

وبعدين،

And then,

فما فيش أماكن،

There are no places.

وحتى لو في أماكن ما فيش Staff أصلاً،

"And even if there are places where there is no staff at all,"

في الأماكن يعني،

In places, I mean,

يبتدي إنه هو بس دا كل ديوت تتعقل،

It starts with him, but that's all the routine that can be rationalized.

يستوقع كل دا، آه،

Everything is expected, oh.

يعني أنت بتبتدي تفرغ،

It means you're starting to empty out.

أنا هفرغ الـ Team بتاع الـ Clinic اللي يدرب بس الناس،

I will empty the clinic team that only trains people.

وهو يدوب،

And he is melting.

لأنه آه،

Because, ah,

يعني يدوب،

It means just barely.

وبعدين،

And then,

نيجي بقى لحاجة تانية،

Now let's move on to something else,

طب،

Okay,

Say for example،

For example,

أنا مكاني Stable،

I am at my stable place.

اللي أنا أقدر أسوب،

What I can do,

في أماكن مش أماكنها Stable،

In places that are not its proper places, Stable.

طب،

Okay,

سيبنا إنه هو أماكنها مش Stable،

Let us say that her places are not stable.

مين قال إن المكان الفلاني دا الذي يتبع الجامعة الفلانية دي،

Who said that this particular place belongs to this specific university?

أو الجامعة إنه هو اللي فيها Capable أصلاً،

Or the university, it is the one that is capable anyway.

أو Professional أصلاً،

Or originally Professional,

إنه هما يبقوا Perceptors؟

Are they the Perceptors?

أصلاً،

Originally,

ما إحنا عندنا برضو Problem،

We also have a problem.

إنه هو،

It is him,

أنا بكلمك بره كاهرة،

I am talking to you outside of Cairo.

بره كاهرة،

It's very hot outside.

والأماكن اللي إحنا عارفينها،

And the places that we know.

لا في أماكن بره،

No, in places outside.

خلاص،

That's it.

هو اللي فيها كان Clinical،

It was clinical.

كان متخرج،

He had graduated.

ما لقاش حتى منه يعلمه،

He couldn't find anyone to teach him.

فهو،

He,

اجتهد كدا مع نفسه،

He strived hard with himself.

اجتهد مع نفسه،

He made an effort with himself.

أصاب أو أخطأ،

He was right or wrong,

أو Whatever،

Or whatever,

لو هو كويس،

If he is good,

هقولك والله أنا عايز حد معايا،

I swear I'll tell you, I want someone with me.

أو يعني أعايز يبقى معالين كما حدا،

Or I mean I want to be elevated like someone.

عشان خاطر يعني تشير،

"For the sake of pointing, I mean."

صح؟

Right?

أو يعني يساعدوا،

Or I mean they help.

يستشيروا،

They consult.

في أي حاجة،

In anything,

صح؟

Right?

وفيه غيرهم يتاخدهم العزة بالاسم،

"And among them are others who take pride in their name."

اللي هو لا أنا بقيت رئيس جمهورية إمبابا،

Which means I have become the President of the Republic of Imbaba.

وأنا سينيور السناير،

And I am the senior of the seniors,

وهاتلي،

And bring me,

طيب ما هو،

Okay, what is it?

احنا بيبتدي نبني أيجان لطيفة قوي،

We are starting to build a very nice place.

ما هو،

What is it,

طيب ما هو،

Okay, what is it?

وبعدين هيتخرجوا يروحوا فيه،

And then they will graduate, where will they go?

أنا مش فاهمة،

I don't understand.

كمان بعدها،

Also after that,

يعني هيتخرجوا،

It means they will graduate.

فتوه ال Clinical دول،

Clinical oversight.

هيروحوا ياملوا المستشفيات الحكومية،

They will go and fill the government hospitals.

والتأمين الصحي الشامل،

The comprehensive health insurance.

والكذا والكذا،

And so on and so forth,

وهوا already على فكرة،

"And it is already, by the way,"

أصلاً كل المستشفيات الحكومية،

Actually, all the government hospitals,

وكل المستشفى الداخل للتأمين الصحي الشامل،

And all the hospital is included in the comprehensive health insurance.

already مليانة صيادلة،

It's already full of pharmacists.

أصلاً،

Originally,

مليانة صيادلة،

Filled with pharmacists,

وثلاث ارباعهم في خلال السنتين اللي فاتوا،

And three quarters of them in the past two years,

أخدوا حاجات بوست جراد،

They took the stuff from Post Grad.

كل اللي ما كانش هياخد حاجة بوست جراد،

Anyone who wasn't going to receive anything is a post-graduate.

راح أخد حاجة بوست جراد،

I will take something from Post Grad.

وأنت عندك حاجة وكلام مهمة،

And you have a need and important words.

اللي موجود وكتير دلوقتي في الواقع،

What exists and is abundant now in reality,

كمان اللي واخدين أجازات،

Also, those who are on vacation,

ممكن ان هم يرجعوا اكتر بثلاث اربع اضعاف من الموجودين انا بقول

They could come back three or four times more than the current ones, that's what I'm saying.

لحضرتك انا عندي على الورق رقم رقم وعندي على الواقع رقم تاني ادرب

For you, I have one number on paper and I have another number in reality to train.

في اربعة خمسة اربعة خمسة ليه لان البنات تيجي تتجوز تطلع مرافق

In four five four five, why? Because the girls come to get married and then become companions.

تزوج او تاخد رعاية طفل تقعد صح وهكذا وهكذا وهكذا ضفها واحدة

Get married or take care of a child, stay well, and so on, and so forth, add one more.

ضفها وراء ضفها وبعدين وبعدين مش عارفين لا بس بس يعني يعني ما نقف

"Add it behind, add it, and then, and then we don’t know, no, just, just I mean, let’s not stop."

لها شوشهم لان هي هي اهو بس ايه انا حاسس ان احنا لو اديناها لو

She has their attention because it's just her, but I feel that if we give her...

قلنا ان هي الدنيا وردي هي مش وردي نبقى احنا بنغشهم لا اصلا انت

We said that this life is rosy, but it's not rosy. Are we deceiving them? No, actually, it's you.

مش هتقدر ان انت تتلوى عنق الحقيقة هي مش وردي وما حدش

"You won't be able to twist the truth; it's not rosy, and no one can."

هيقدر نقول ان اها وردي اه. بس انت لازم ان انت تجتهد وبرضو هرجع

We can say that it is pink, yes. But you have to work hard, and I will also come back.

اقول لك حاجة. الشانس بتاعة الجيل الجديد ده غير ايامنا خالص

I'll tell you something. The chances of this new generation are completely different from our days.

تماما. لان احنا كنا زمان زمان. كان مجالات شغل الصيدلة كانت

Exactly. Because we were in the past. The fields of pharmacy were...

محدودة جدا. هو يا يا مصانع صح? يا اما اه مستشفيات. اه. ابتدى

Very limited. It's either factories, right? Or hospitals. Uh. It started.

يحصل بقى ايه? صح? اه حتى في ابتدى يحصل تخصص اكتر. تمام?

So, what happens next? Right? Yes, it has even started to become more specialized. Okay?

محتاجين اه محتاجين بس مش كل الاعداد دي. بس محتاجين. بس مش

We need it, yes we need it, but not all these numbers. We just need it. But not.

كل الاعداد دي. ففي حد هيوقع محزوز. اه طالما ان انت بتحاول

All these numbers. So someone is going to be lucky. Yes, as long as you are trying.

وبتجتهد وبتسعى انا اعتقد لكل مجتهد النصيب. يعني. بس خلينا

And you strive and work hard; I believe every diligent person gets their share. I mean, let's just...

نرتب اكيد. بس هنرتب الموضوع. لو انت لسه ما دخلتش صيدلة فصيدلة

We will definitely arrange it. But we will organize the matter. If you haven't entered pharmacy yet, then pharmacy.

حاليا او في السنة اللي جاية مش ومش افضل مجال تدخل. واخشى اللي انا

Currently or in the coming year, it's not the best field to enter. And I'm afraid of what I...

اقول لك ان هو بعد فترة ممكن يتفق معي او يختلف بعض الناس. انا

I tell you that after a while he might agree with me or disagree with some people. I.

اشعر ان هو كمان تاني يرز تاني يرز في مصر. يعني خلينا في مصر.

I feel that he will also return again to Egypt. I mean, let's stay in Egypt.

اعتقد بوجود الارتفاشي الانتلجنس والريفوليوشن اللي حاصل. وده

I believe in the existence of the artificial intelligence and the revolution that is happening. And this

يعني ما يبقى اللي انا دلوقتي مهتمة بيه ما

It means that what I am currently interested in doesn't remain.

بعض الدكاتر الاساتذة الافاضل اللي هو ديجيتال هيلث والارتفاشي الانتلجنس في

Some esteemed professor doctors in the field of digital health and artificial intelligence in

الفارماسي براكتس. نقلل اصلا عدد العملات اللي لازمة في المجال. انا

Pharmacy practice. We actually reduce the number of currencies needed in the field. I.

عايزة اقول لك انت لو اخدت على سبعة وخمسين او انت عندك من الوقت

I want to tell you that if you get to fifty-seven or if you have the time.

اللي انا بعطلك حتى فيديو بتاع الروبوت اللي بيصرف لسبعة وخمسين

"I am sending you even the video of the robot that spends for fifty-seven."

كله. الروبوت. انت بتوقف صيادة لتصرفها على على على صيادات كبيرة

Everything. The robot. You stop the hunter to deal with big hunters.

ازاي? صح?

How? Right?

مع الوقت اصلا التكنولوجيا نفسها هتبقى ارخص. فهتبقى هتبقى وده ممكن تتعامل في

Over time, technology itself will actually become cheaper. So it will become something you can deal with.

الثلاثة الخيطاليات برا. ام. تمام? ممكن انت بقى ساعتها يعني زي سبعة وخمسين

The three "khitaliyat" are fine. Okay? Maybe you can be like seventy-seven then.

كده بيفرهوا الناس مزبوط. حلو ده بقى مش اي حد هيعرف يعملوه. ده

This is how they really impress people. This is nice, not everyone will be able to do it. This...

او ده. عشان بس عشان خاطر نبقى واضحين يعني. بس كل ما قال كل ما قال

Oh, this. Just so we can be clear, I mean. But every time he said, every time he said.

السلاري.

The salary.

وانت عندك من الناس ودخل معك دخيل قوي. تقريبا هو الروبوت او الارتفاشي.

And you have someone with you, a strong intruder. It's almost like a robot or an artificial entity.

انت. حددك دلوقتي فيه جراحات في عين شمس تدت تتعامل. امتاز. حددك

You. You are currently in surgeries in Ain Shams dealing. Excellent. You identify.

فانتني. المهنة في خطر المهنة. المهنة دخلت نفق مظلم. ما قدرش اقول

My profession is in danger. The profession has entered a dark tunnel. I can't say.

مظلم. مش عارفين اخرته ايه. بس هو احنا حالان في نفق. الله اعلم فيه اخرته في نور.

It's dark. We don't know what the end will be. But we are currently in a tunnel. God knows if there is light at the end.

لا لا. بس احنا في نفق مظلم. بس عايز اقول لك حاجات. مش عايز تعترفين ان احنا في نفق

No, no. But we are in a dark tunnel. I just want to tell you things. I don't want to admit that we are in a tunnel.

مظلم. والله انا كنت. لسه من سنة بالضبط بالضبط من سنة. اه كان فيه

It was dark. I swear I was. Just a year ago, exactly a year ago. Yes, there was.

ناس افضل اصحاب بقى القرارات يعني. اه. اصحاب القرارات. فانا كنت عايزة

People are the best at making decisions, you know. Decision-makers. So I wanted to...

اقول حاجة. يعني ايه لقيت حد يقول يعني مش هينفع انا اقول الكلام ده.

I say something. What does it mean when I find someone saying it won’t be acceptable for me to say this?

احنا عندنا مش بس في الخريج. اصلا تتكلمني على الخريج. يتكلمني على مسلمة قبل

"We have not only in the Gulf. You’re talking to me about the Gulf. Talk to me about a Muslim before."

الخريج. اه. المحتوى الدراسي اللي هو بياخده. المحتوى الدراسي والافراط

The graduate. Ah. The curriculum that he is taking. The curriculum and the excess.

في الجامعات والترخيص للكليات. اللي هو بياخده والذي يؤهله اصلا

In universities and licensing for colleges. What is taken and which qualifies him originally.

للسوق العام. هو حدا يتكلمني على التريننج صح? هو ايه اللي يخلي انت

For the public market. Is there someone who can talk to me about training, right? What makes you...

شفت دكتور بيخلص كلية الطب ويروح ياخد تريننج يا راجل. نعم. ياخد

I saw a doctor finishing medical school and then going to take training, man. Yes. Taking.

تريننج. خلاص هو اصلا في الامتياز يعني بيتفحت. لا يعني هو ما بعد

Training. It's already in the franchise, meaning it's opening up. No, I mean it hasn't happened yet.

الامتياز. بيبتدي يدور على مكان. ده خلاص.

The privilege. He starts looking for a place. That's it.

ياخد فيه تريننج. نعم. ولا بيبتدي ياخد عشتغل وبيدور على مكان ياخد فيه

He is taking training in it. Yes. Or he starts working and looks for a place to take training in.

خبرة في شغله صح. نعم. نيابة بقى او ما الا ذلك صح? الا السيادة.

Experience in his work is correct. Yes. Is it a deputation or something like that? Except for the dignity.

بيخرج غير مؤهل لاي مجال من تلاتين. ولا حتى وقفة السيادة. ولا

He comes out unqualified for any field out of thirty. Not even a pause for sovereignty. Nor...

ولا سيادة عارف يقف فيها. ولا مصنع عارف يقف فيه. ولا فهمه. ولا

There is no knowledgeable sovereignty in it. Nor is there a knowledgeable factory in it. Nor is there understanding. Nor...

فهمه. ولا كواليتي فهمه. ولا شغل فهمه. ولا شغل نفسه. يعني يعني هو

He understands. He doesn't understand quality. He doesn't engage in work. Nor does he occupy himself. I mean, he...

هو هو مش عارف. هو مش عارف.

He doesn't know. He doesn't know.

انا يعني انا ما قلتش سايتها اخبط. بس انا قلت لهم يعني نهتم

I mean, I didn't say to hit it. I just told them that we should care.

اصلا بالخريق. ومن هنا كان فعلا فعلا يعني في دكتور برضو انا

I am actually in trouble. And here, it really means that there is also a doctor for me.

بحترم جدا جدا التفكير بتاع او بحس ان هو دكتور خالد مصرحي.

I really respect the way of thinking or I feel that he is Dr. Khaled Masri.

الانت مش عندنا في مصر. اه. وده من ايام سيدنا مش عارف ايه موجود

The internet is not here with us in Egypt. Yeah. And this has been the case since the days of our master, I don't know what, it has existed.

برا. اللي هو ايه بقى حضرتك? ان هو

What is it then, sir? It is that...

نسي مع السيدين بتاع المدسن مع ستودين

He forgot with the two gentlemen of the medicine with the students.

في نطاق شغلات مثلا اللابس سيقول لك الروبرت وانت بتتناقش معه في الروبرت والدكتور بيقول كذا وانت

In the context of things, for example, the person will say to you the robot, and while you are discussing with the robot, the doctor says such and such, and you...

بتبتدي تقول والله اصل الدواء ده هو اللي عامل فانت لقيته صح فتيجي التوريط تقول لها مش عارف ايه

You start saying, "I swear, this medicine is the one causing it," and you found it right, so when you come to the situation, you tell her, "I don’t know what."

اعمل في حضرتك اتحطيت او تعلمت المناهج اللي محطوطة نفسها ده كم كلية في مصر تعملها في كليات انا اسمع

I work in your presence. I have been placed or have learned the curricula that are set. How many colleges in Egypt offer such programs? I hear.

كلية او الاتنين في مصر سوريا جامعة او اتنين في مصر ابتدت تقولها كنظري يعني من باب

The college or the two in Egypt, Syria, one or two universities in Egypt started to say it as a theory, I mean, for the sake of it.

اللي هو ايه قلناها او بنبصر بيها لكن مش مش بتعملها عامل يعني بتخدش الطرق

What it is, we said it or we perceive it, but it doesn’t mean you act on it, so it doesn't affect the paths.

اللي بدرس المناهج كلهم ناس على قدر عالي طبعا من العلم في تخصوصاتهم ولكن مش

Those who study the curricula are all highly knowledgeable people, of course, in their specializations, but not...

حتى لما جابوا دلوقتي ناس في جماعات كتير قصرت هذا الحاجز

Even when they brought people now in many groups, this barrier has been shortened.

وانت عارف يعني ان هو فيه جماعات ممكن في مصر يعني سوريا انا قصدي مصر يعني

And you know that there are groups, possibly in Egypt, I mean Syria, I mean Egypt.

الكاهرة كنصدي الكاهرة والجيزة وكده لا ابتدوا يستعينوا كتير جدا انا بقيت عارف

Cairo, like Nasr City, Cairo, and Giza, they have started to rely a lot now; I have become aware.

ده مش كتير جدا لسه بلدو يتعضوا على الصوابة فكري كده فيهم كم واحد بس ببتدوا يجيبوه كان زمان

This is not too much; they still get hung up on the basics. Think about how many of them are just starting to understand it, unlike before.

اللي انت تدخل في الاكاديمي كل حاجة تبدأ واحدة واحدة بس الشيء اللي احنا لسه هم يبتدوا يستعينوا بناس خارج

When you enter the academy, everything starts gradually, but they are still beginning to seek help from people outside.

داعهم او خارج حضارة فينتيني البيئة بتاعتهم او كاشو بتاعهم ده كان شيء صعب ان هو يجيب لك حد

Supporting them or outside the civilization of Vintini, their environment or their situation was difficult to bring someone to you.

براكتيشنر عشان خاطر ينقل الاكسفيرينس بتاعته او يبتدي يعمل لك شادوينج على الحالات اللي بيشوفها

A practitioner in order to transfer their experience or start doing shadowing on the cases they see.

محتاجين نوقف نوقف الاعداد المعهودة اللي بتدخل كلية سيدالة كل سنة دي احد الحلول الموضوع فيه

We need to stop the usual number of students entering the Faculty of Pharmacy every year; this is one of the solutions in this matter.

بوليتيكال وفاينينشيل

Political and Financial

ايضا

Also

ايضا قولي يعني اتجاهات مش هتقدر

Also, tell me, I mean, you won't be able to go in certain directions.

مش هنقدر طيب دكتور جهن ايه الخطوة اللي جاية في حياتك

We won't be able to, so Doctor, what is the next step in your life?

تتكلم على اساس قط بس عشان خطرة الرهنة يعني حضرتك تتكلمي مع افتر ابو الريش يعني ولا تتكلم انجيلا

You are talking about a cat, but just for the sake of urgency, are you talking to the one who is pretending to be Abu Al-Rish or not talking to Angela?

اه ايه الاستيبس اللي جاية يعني فيه ام بي ايه

Oh, what are the upcoming steps? Does that mean there’s an MBA?

اه فيه ام بي ايه بس بس اتسوكي يعني انا بكمل على بردو ايه يعني على على ما سبق لنا يعني اشتغلت

Oh, there is an NBA, but it's just that I'm continuing on with what we've done previously, I mean I've been working on it.

او يعني لنا اترستو يعني لانو كنت اخدت ادارة اوكي واخدت اتلينيكال واخدت ايه كده على اتلينيكال

Oh, I mean to us, you know, because I took management, okay, and I took clinical, and I took something like clinical.

فببتدي بقى ابتدي اشوف الدنيا

"So I start to see the world."

يعني تولت في وسط الكلام ان انتي بتفكري في ديجيتالايزيشن

It means that in the middle of the conversation, you are thinking about digitization.

اه هو ده اللي هو يعني يعني هو ده هو ده هو لسه القوضة دي فاضية شوية ومش كتير داخلها لان بقولك فيه كذا قوضة دلوقتي بطادة بيتملوه يعني

Oh, this is it. I mean, this is it, it's still a little empty in this room and not many people are coming in because I tell you, there are several rooms that are currently being filled up.

يعني الهيرث ايكونوميكس بطادة يتمليه

It means that the heritage economics is dominated by it.

الاستراتيجيك بلانينج بطادة يتمليه

Strategic planning is driven by requirements.

البايستاتيكس بطادة يتمليه كله بقى يعني بطادة يتمليه فالهو شايفة ان هو يعني قريب يعني شايفة ان هو هيبعد قوي عننا يعني اه هو عملية الارتيفيشيال انتلجنس ويهيبقى ازاي في

The biostatistics is filled with it all, I mean it's filled with it, so it seems to me that it is close, I mean it seems to me that it will move away from us a lot, I mean yes, it is the process of artificial intelligence and how it will be.

في الهالف

In the half

اه

Ah.

في الفارماسي براكتس

In pharmacy practice.

براكتس يعني

براكتس يعني "الممارسة" أو "التطبيق".

يعني بارتيكولر

It means "particular."

هو ده اللي انا شايفين هو

This is what I see.

ده البروموسينك يعني

This is the bromosync, meaning.

او هو ده لسه الارض

Is this still the earth?

النائية ومنطقة اللي هو

The remote area and the area that is.

لسه محدش كتير فيها

No one has really done much in it yet.

فميبي ميبي

Famiibi Mibi

ام جايند تو بي يعني

I'm going to be meaning.

يعني بحاول

It means "I am trying."

لسه تستكشف

Still exploring.

بخد الستابس يعني

By hitting the stabs, I mean.

بخد الستابس اللي هنا ببتدي

I'm starting with the steps here.

زي ما بقولك هو الساينس

Just as I say, it's science.

نبتدي الاول ناخد الساينس ونشوف

Let's start by taking the science and see.

الدنيا ماشية ازاي ونبتدي

How is life going and shall we begin?

نتعلم ونبتدي

We learn and start.

نستفيد من الناس

We benefit from people.

سواء براء او جوه حتى لو عندهم

Whether it's Bara or Jaw, even if they have it.

افكار او عندهم

Ideas or they have.

ووركشوبس او عندهم

And workshops, or they have.

اصلا موضوع على فكرة كبير

The topic is actually a big idea.

كبير

Big

على فكرة ده هيقصب بالسلبة على اماكن تاني

By the way, this will negatively affect other places.

يعني على اتجاهاتك تاني

It means your directions again.

بس انا مفيش حاجة اسمها

But there is no such thing as

الانسان هيختفي ولا دوره

Will humans disappear or will their role change?

هيختفي يعني يعني

It will disappear, I mean.

لكن هيحصل دونستافينج

But there will be a downsizing.

هيحصل دونستافينج

There will be a donstafing.

مثل

Like

في ناس تفقد وظائفها

Some people lose their jobs.

اه في ناس هتبتر تفقد وظائفها

Oh, some people are going to lose their jobs.

لكن لو ما كانتش

But if it wasn't...

لكن معلقة هيظهر وظائف جديدة برضو

But the spoon will also reveal new jobs.

بالزبط فالهو انت بقى

Exactly, so it's you then.

لازم تبتدي ايه متبقاش في قلب المركب

You need to start whatever is not in the heart of the boat.

وتلحق تنط بدري

And you will attend the early jump.

كده علشان خطة تلاقي لك

This is so that the plan finds you.

شط يعني ايه متبقاش

What does "not be" mean?

برضو محشو في نفس الوضع خلاص بقى

It's still stuck in the same situation now.

كلنا بقى انا كلينيكل كلنا بقى انا

We all became, I am clinical, we all became, I am.

ماناجيريال كلنا بقى انا

Manajerial, we all became me.

نيتوشنست او

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او كواليتي او

Either quality or...

انفكشن

Infection

وبعدين

And then.

بس كم ريسورشل

How much for the resourcel?

هيبقى في مصر يعني

It will stay in Egypt, I mean.

وبعدين

And then?

يعني

It means.

فده اصد يعني

So that's what it means.

فهو ده

This is it.

بتكلم على جهان فهو ده جهان

I'm talking about Jehan, that's Jehan.

اللي هي بتبتدي تفكر فيه

"Which she is starting to think about."

اللي هو برضو يعني

Which also means.

الارض الجديدة دي اتطرق

This new land has been destroyed.

اليها زي ما كان زمان في الاول

Like it used to be back in the day.

حكاية كلينيكل ده كان

The story of clinical was.

كان شيء

It was something.

برضو حاجة كده

Still something like that.

حاجة كده كانت غمضة على فكرة

It was something that was unclear, by the way.

يعني كانت غمضة تسامها وانها

It means that it was a moment that she overlooked and that she...

يعني تتكلم فيها في مستشفيات جماعية

It means you are talking about it in group hospitals.

حضرك فاهمتني

You understood me.

يعني كان مستشفيات جماعية كان

It means there were collective hospitals.

كان كام واحد لا ما كانش فيها

There was someone, but they weren't there.

انك ترى جهان

You see the world.

رحلة من الطموح والتشالينجز ونعدي حاجة ونخبط في حاجة ونكمل

A journey of ambition and challenges; we overcome something, bump into something else, and keep moving forward.

هي الحياة اوبس اند داونز يعني هي الحياة اوبس اند داونز بس هي الفكرة اللي انت

Life has its ups and downs, meaning life has its ups and downs, but the idea is what you do.

يعني لما تبقى

It means "When you become..."

وانس معاك داون

"Come down with you."

افتكر الكوس

I remember the zucchini.

لازم ترجع لورا شوية عشان ترجع تطلع لقدام

You need to go back a little to be able to move forward again.

فا مهم ان انت متحبطش متوقفش

It's important that you don't get discouraged and don't stop.

واتكمل

And continue.

لو انت عايز في دماغك ان انت هتكمل هتكمل

If you have it in your mind that you will continue, you will continue.

ربنا شايل لك ايه ربنا هيحقق لك ايه

What is God holding for you? What will God achieve for you?

طالما ان انت بتسعى بتسعى

As long as you are striving, you are striving.

يعني

It means.

تعمل كل اللي عليك

Do whatever is in your power.

او بتعمل اللي عليك

Or you do what you have to do.

وبدون ان انت بتضر حد او ان انت يعني سعي شريفي يعني اهم حاجة

"And without harming anyone or meaning that you have a noble intention, the most important thing."

عشان خاطر الكلينيكل دا يعني

"For the sake of this clinical thing, I mean."

لحاجات غريبة ومريبة الواحد كان يشوفها

For strange and suspicious things that one used to see.

يعني

It means.

ها بالضبط

This is exactly it.

فهو السعي الشريف فاتسو اوكي

It is the noble striving, so let it be okay.

فربنا هيجازيك

So, our Lord will reward you.

وبعدين انت طالما ان انت بتسعى كمان في طريق العلم ربنا هيجازيك

And then, as long as you are striving in the path of knowledge, God will reward you.

اه توصل او لا توصل

Ah, will it reach or not?

دي بتاعت ربنا

This belongs to God.

انا اتبسطت جدا باللقاء دا

I really enjoyed this meeting.

معرفش الوقت توصل قد ايه دلوقتي

I don't know what time it is now.

انا مش مصدقة اصلا ان اعملها سجد دا كله

I can't believe I actually did all of this prostration.

لان اتخيلت ان هو سياع

Because I imagined that he was a poor person.

فيش حد هيقضي كالايس معنى دا كله غريب

There is no one who will interpret all this ambiguity.

يعني هتلاقي كده في مواحدة

It means you will find someone like that.

طب نزلها باش تبقى انه برطو طوية غريبة

Well, drop it so that it remains a strange long story.

لا مفيش هو البودكاست بيبقى رحلة واحدة

No, there isn't. The podcast is usually just one journey.

ليه؟

Why?

طب هاي الناس يتهمها ايه انها تسمى قصة يعني الحياة

So, what do these people accuse her of; that she is called a story, I mean life?

هي مش قصة شخصية هي قصة

It's not a personal story; it's a story.

احنا مكلمةش في اي حاجة شخصية

We haven't talked about anything personal.

لا انا اصلا يعني مش ملهمة انا مش انسانة ملهمة

No, I'm not inspiring at all. I'm not an inspiring person.

بالعكس احنا اتكلمنا عن المجال بشكل يعني انه اعتبق كيس استادي

On the contrary, we talked about the field in a way that means it has become a case study.

كيس استادي عن الكلينيكل من اول انشاء قسم من الصفر

A case study about the clinical aspect from the establishment of the department from scratch.

لحد ما سبنا للاحظة

Until we left for the note.

لحد ما سبنا للكارير كله

Until we left everything to the career.

اتك على السين

Rely on the scene.

اتك يا سين

You are here, Sin.