Atac i Gol – Episodi 63
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Atac i gol
Atac i Gol – Episodi 63
Atac i Gol
Attack and Goal
Pere Penicello, benvingut
Pere Penicello, welcome.
Gràcies Vicky, bona nit
Thank you Vicky, good night.
Bona nit també Manolo Martínez
Good night also Manolo Martínez.
Gràcies per col·laborar amb nosaltres una setmana més
Thank you for collaborating with us for another week.
Gràcies, bon any
Thank you, happy new year.
Gràcies, bona nit
Thank you, good night.
Estan d'altres també Miquel Castelló
There are others too, Miquel Castelló.
Miquel, benvingut també en esta tertúlia
Miquel, welcome to this discussion as well.
Moltes gràcies, bona nit
Thank you very much, good night.
I abans que tanqués el mercat d'hivern
And before the winter market closed
hem fet un fitxatge
we have made a signing
amb la gent de la ciutat
with the people of the city
Avui, de Miquel Otero, conegut per tots
Today, by Miquel Otero, known by all.
com ja sabeu, aficionat madridista
As you already know, a Madridista fan.
Miquel, content de tindre't aquí als Estudis de 21 Ràdio
Miquel, happy to have you here at 21 Radio Studios.
Bona nit
Good night
Difícil paperet avui, eh?
Difficult paper today, eh?
Però Miquel, però bueno
But Miquel, but well
Ell sol ser defensar
He usually defends.
Vam parlar de moltes coses, Supercopa
We talked about many things, Supercup.
Copa del Rei, comencem si us sembla
King's Cup, shall we start if you agree?
parlant de la Supercopa, després ja parlaríem de la Copa del Rei
Talking about the Super Cup, then we would talk about the King's Cup.
Esta Supercopa d'Espanya
This Spanish Supercup
que bé, Miquel
how good, Miquel
aquí sí que ho tindràs bé, i xalaràs comentant-ho
Here you will have it good, and you will enjoy discussing it.
el Madrid li va
Madrid suits him.
fotre un bany al Barça
give the Barça a good thrashing
4
4
a 1, hat-trick de Vinicius
a 1, Vinicius's hat-trick
i un altre de Rodrigo, també
and another one from Rodrigo, too
com es vol esta Supercopa guanyar pel Madrid, Miquel?
How does Madrid want to win this Supercup, Miquel?
Amb bastanta superioritat del Madrid
With quite a superiority from Madrid.
en vert que el Barcelona
in green that Barcelona
tampoc no té tan
it doesn't have that much either
mal equip
poor team
si mires home per home
if you look man by man
però jo crec
but I believe
i opinem de després
and we will give our opinions later
perquè jo també sóc
because I am too
un amant
a lover
dels entrenadors en què
of the coaches in which
ells han de decidir abans dels partits
they have to decide before the matches
i després el partit pot sortir d'una manera o una altra
and then the match can go one way or another
però crec que
but I think that
si mirem
if we look
si va equivocar Javi
if Javi was wrong
en donar-li molts despatxs al Madrid
by giving him many defeats in Madrid
ha estat
has been
i és letal
and it is lethal
i llavors
and then
digues que
say that
els 10 minuts de la primera part
the 10 minutes of the first half
que et marquen i els 20
that mark you and the 20
i ja estàs 2 a 0
and you are already 2 to 0
en estos partits i en estos equips
in these matches and in these teams
és molt difícil
it's very difficult
de solucionar-ho
to solve it
però és igual
but it doesn't matter
va guanyar el Madrid
Madrid won.
i en claretat
and in clarity
i el Barça va sortir
and Barça came out
tocadet del d'allò
touched in the head
perquè jo no sé si
because I don't know if
hi haurà molts problemes dins
there will be many problems inside
ho afecta als jugadors, ho afecta
it affects the players, it affects them
a l'entrenador però
to the coach but
que hi ha alguna cosa allà dins que no
that there is something in there that doesn't
acaba de, perquè
just, because
potser Javi
maybe Javi
vol fer jugar
do you want to play
tal com jugava ell
just as he used to play
quan jugava i els jugadors
when I played and the players
ja no estan o són uns altres
they are no longer here or they are others
perquè ara, no sé, Lewandowski
because now, I don't know, Lewandowski
ja no marca com marcava
it no longer marks as it used to
Joao Fèlix pot tenir problemes
João Félix may have problems.
i no juga gaire
and doesn't play much
hi ha un dilema allà
there is a dilemma there
que, bueno, de la part
that, well, from the part
de fora mirem i hi ha
From outside we look and there is
un problema que és evident
a problem that is evident
que d'allò que és monetari que no hi ha
that of the monetary that is not there
un duro, no hi ha un duro a la caixa
a dollar, there is not a dollar in the cash register
i a partir d'aquí tot pot ser
and from here everything can be
problemes o
problems or
l'avantatge és que surten xiquets de baix
The advantage is that kids come out from below.
i això sí que tens un equip
And this is indeed a team you have.
de futur i els xiquets que
of the future and the children who
que debuten no són mal
What debuts are not bad
vull dir que
I mean that
i en això
and in this
com jo soc amant de la cantera
as I am a lover of the quarry
en aquest aspecte sí que
in this respect, yes
apoya molt el Barça
supports Barça a lot
Ho dèiem, no? 4-1 del Madrid
We said it, didn't we? 4-1 for Madrid.
al Barça en esta final de la Supercopa
to Barça in this Super Cup final
hat-trick de Vinicius, un altre de Rodrigo
Vinicius' hat-trick, another one from Rodrigo.
Vinicius, 3 gols, però una altra vegada
Vinicius, 3 goals, but once again.
aquesta actitud criticable i lamentable
this reprehensible and regrettable attitude
a mi això no té solució este noi
This doesn't have a solution for me, this guy.
Diu que li estan rentant
He says they are washing him.
el cap i que la de...
the head and that of...
però els caràcters són els caràcters
but the characters are the characters
ahir va tornar a tindre una miqueta
Yesterday he/she had a little bit again.
a la Copa del Rei
in the King's Cup
és que
it's that
és molt diferent per exemple
it's very different for example
i a Rodrigo, Rodrigo no té este
And to Rodrigo, Rodrigo does not have this.
pronto, i jo crec que els prontos són
soon, and I think that those who are prompt are
i estaran i
and they will be and
i algun dia doncs
and someday then
és indomable,itxell?
Is it indomitable, Itxell?
jo crec que sí
I think so.
sí, perquè és que no hi ha manera
Yes, because there is no way.
no hi ha manera de
there's no way to
sí que li peguen, sí que...
yes, they do hit him, yes they do...
però bueno,i això entra dins del
but well, and this falls within the
del joc i
of the game and
i cada un juga les seues armes
and each one plays their own weapons
per lo tant
therefore
intentar que
try to make
que senta el cap, que no crec
that feels like the head, that I don't believe
que el senti, però que és molt
that it hurts, but it is very
bon jugador, que és un jugador
good player, who is a player
diferencial, però que el caràcter
differential, but that the character
a vegades el mata.
sometimes he kills him.
Pere, com vas veure esta final de la Supercopa d'Espanya
Pere, how did you see this Supercopa de España final?
i també l'actuació de Vinicius?
And also the performance of Vinicius?
Bé,
Well,
com ho vaig veure?
How did I see it?
Com l'hem de veure els barcelonistes?
How should we see the Barcelonistas?
Frustrats,
Frustrated,
emprenyats, i la veritat
angry, and the truth
crec que Michel
I think Michel.
l'ha analitzat molt bé, vull dir,
he has analyzed it very well, I mean,
que jugar en la mitja
to play in the midfield
en l'equip al mig del camp
in the team in the middle of the field
i, a més, sense tapar
and, moreover, uncovered
uns forats i en un cris
some holes and in a crunch
sense que es va veure
without being seen
que la seva forn no és la velocitat, tampoc,
that your oven is not the speed, either,
un cunder que va estar
a loser who was
fent uns fallos
making some mistakes
contínuament
continuously
i un Araujo que
and a Araujo that
últimament també no està
lately it's also not there
de la manera que està
the way it is
i que, a més, vull dir, veiem que el Vinicius
and I also want to say, we see that Vinicius
anava a paca al mig i que llavors
I was going to Paca in the middle and then...
l'Araujo tampoc ja no el seguia,
Araujo was no longer following him either.
era un despropòsit,
it was nonsense,
era un despropòsit, la veritat és que
it was nonsense, the truth is that
donar-li un 2-0
to give him/her a 2-0
al Madrid era donar-li
in Madrid it was to give it to him
molta avantatge. Sí que és veritat
a lot of advantage. Yes, it is true.
que en el 2-1 de Lewandowski,
that in Lewandowski's 2-1,
és el que es diu ara, que tornem entre el partit,
it's what they're calling now, that we return during the game,
bé,
well,
un penal rigorós
a harsh penalty
d'aquests que es piten i no es piten,
of those who are whistled and not whistled,
que tampoc, de la manera que va
that neither, in the way it is going
en el partit, no podem
In the match, we cannot.
donar-ho com a excusa, ni molt menys,
to use it as an excuse, far from it,
però la realitat és aquesta, vull dir
but the reality is this, I mean
que en el penal aquell,
that in that prison,
en el 3-1, se va acabar el partit
At 3-1, the match was over.
i jo crec que el Madrid, en aquest cas,
and I believe that Madrid, in this case,
estava a tindre compassió de Natros
it was to have compassion for us
i tot, vull dir,
and all, I mean,
la veritat és que Natros
The truth is that we
no donem mai
we never give
cap sensació de perill, un joc
no sense of danger, a game
lent, horitzontal, que no arribem
slow, horizontal, that we do not reach
a porta, ni xutem, ni creem
the door, neither we kick, nor we believe
perill, i qualsevol equip, inclús ahir,
danger, and any team, even yesterday,
qualsevol equip, en un contraatac,
any team, in a counterattack,
te crea més perill, te veus tu més perill
it creates more danger for you, you see yourself in more danger
que el que podem crear Natros
that what we can create us
dominant el partit en la
dominating the match in the
pilota, però sense res
ball, but without anything
més. La veritat és que és més el mateix,
more. The truth is that it's more of the same,
vull dir, allà va tornar a passar,
I mean, it happened again there,
tan pront de començar el partit
so soon to start the match
ja van tindre una ocasió, després ja ens ho van fer
they already had an opportunity, then they did it to us
treballar ara al gol, vull dir que hi ha coses
work now at the goal, I mean that there are things
que s'estan repetint, s'estan
that are repeating, are repeating
repetint, s'estan fent, i
repeating, they are being made, and
la veritat és que
the truth is that
jo crec que, a més,
I believe that, moreover,
els missatges que arriben
the messages that come in
tant de l'entrenador com del
both the coach and the
president no són els adequats,
the president is not the right one,
no són els adequats, ahir a Travegada
they are not the right ones, yesterday in Travegada
que es juga bé, que el pli, que
that plays well, that the pli, that
no sé què, que estem en construcció,
I don't know what, we're under construction,
que vam fer un bon partit,
that we played a good match,
que tal... Escolta,
how are you... Listen,
vull dir, l'Odia de l'Almeria
I mean, the Hate of Almeria.
ja va hi haure un toc d'atenció,
there will be a warning,
que pareixia que, bueno,
that it seemed that, well,
que a veure si de veritat se despertàvem,
that let's see if we really woke up,
però tots pensem
but we all think
el mateix, allí t'hi haure
the same, I'll be there
t'hi haure algo, t'hi haure
There will be something for you, there will be.
algo més, i no es poden anar
something more, and they cannot go
en missatges triomfalistes,
in triumphalist messages,
ni volem veure el president a la seva panxota
we don't want to see the president on his belly
saltant i cridant i barça a barça
jumping and shouting and barça to barça
quan la imatge
when the image
i la realitat és una altra,
and the reality is another,
i no féssim volar coloms
and we wouldn't be raising pigeons
perquè no és temporada de fer volar coloms,
because it is not the season to fly pigeons,
i si arribem dos, quatre primers
And if we arrive two, four firsts.
de manera que està l'equip ja farem prou,
so that the team is already doing enough,
i que, bueno, avui ell mateix ja diu
And that, well, today he himself already says.
que si no tinc cap títol, doncs que
that if I don't have any title, then what
m'ho paga a casa, doncs penso que ell tot sol
He pays me at home, so I think he does it all by himself.
ja se fa la sentència, perquè
the sentence is already being made, because
el que és la Lliga està
what the League is is
molt malament, el que és la Copa d'Europa
very bad, what the European Cup is
està pitjor, i el que és la Copa del Rei
it is worse, and what the Copa del Rei is
bueno, no ho sabem, perquè
well, we don't know, because
depèn de moltes coses, però
it depends on many things, but
la veritat és que en els jocs que
the truth is that in the games that
estem fent no dona
we are doing it does not give
peu a cap optimisme de res, sinó
from head to toe no optimism at all, but
tot el contrari, perquè anem igual
Quite the opposite, because we are the same.
o a pitjor, i quan
or worse, and when
se diu que tot va bé, doncs molt malament
It is said that everything is fine, so very bad.
per molt que diguem
no matter what we say
que anem millorant.
that we are improving.
Manolo Martínez, com vas veure esta Supercopa d'Espanya?
Manolo Martínez, how did you see this Supercopa de España?
Clarament, jo faré una
Clearly, I will do one.
anàlisi general
general analysis
un desastre
a disaster
lo Madrid
the Madrid
va jugar el tran-tran, si hagués volgut
he could have played the game, if he had wanted to.
fer-nos una sanguina, molt hagués fet,
to make us a blood run, it would have done a lot,
no me la va fer perquè no va volguer,
she didn't do it for me because she didn't want to,
lo Barça no juga res,
Barça is not playing anything,
continuo dient, jo em pensava
I keep saying, I thought to myself.
que sí que algo havia canviat,
that something had indeed changed,
però no, este entrenador
but no, this coach
no serveix per a res, a veure si
it’s useless, let’s see if
definitivament diem
definitely we say
les coses pel seu nom, no és un entrenador
things by their name, he is not a coach
per al Barça, ho sento molt, no és entrenador
For Barça, I'm very sorry, he is not a coach.
per a equips grans ni equips
for large teams nor teams
petits, perquè no té idea
small, because he/she has no idea
de com ha de canviar els partits, no té
about how the parties should change, it doesn't have
idea de com els ha de col·locar al camp,
idea of how he should position them on the field,
no tenim patró de joc,
we have no pattern of play,
no juguem a res,
we're not playing anything,
ni obertura
neither opening
de camp, que sempre està en les mans
from the field, which is always in hand
baracejant, com si vulguem dir
dawdling, as if we want to say
obriu, obriu el camp, però no sap
open, open the field, but he/she does not know
ni per què ho ha de dir, ni per què ho ha de fer,
neither why he has to say it, nor why he has to do it,
jo crec que és un líder que no té
I believe he is a leader who does not have.
carisma davant
charisma in front
d'ells, no crec que passi res dins el vestidor,
I don't think anything will happen in the locker room.
simplement aquest home no sap
simply this man does not know
com ho ha de fer,
how should he/she do it,
jo des d'aquí voldria
I would like from here
donar un consell al president,
give advice to the president,
jo crec que si d'aquí final
I believe that if from here on out
de temporada, que no ho crec,
of the season, I don't believe it,
torno a repetir, perquè això no es pot aguantar,
I'm repeating myself because this can't be tolerated.
nosaltres som un equip ara mateix
we are a team right now
de mitja taula per avall,
from halfway down the table,
i aquesta és la realitat, si us agrada bé
And this is the reality; if you like it, fine.
i si no també, no podem
And if not, we can't either.
aspirar ni a estar entre els quatre primers,
to aspire even to be among the top four,
i jo li recomano
and I recommend it to him/her
al president que fitxe
to the signing president
una persona
a person
entrenadora que assessori
trainer who advises
en aquest entrenador,
in this coach,
val? Aquest entrenador
Okay? This coach.
no pot prendre decisions per ell sol,
he cannot make decisions on his own,
ni ell, ni son germà,
neither he nor his brother,
ni el tal Sergi
neither the such Sergi
aquell que s'aixeca ahir, s'aixecava,
he who rises yesterday, rose,
al camp de l'Unionistes
at the Unionists' field
de Salamanca, cap
from Salamanca, head
d'aquests tres pot prendre decisions
Of these three, one can make decisions.
perquè no tenen ni idea, val?
because they have no idea, okay?
I no vinguéssiu a mi que Xavi
And you didn't come to me that Xavi.
ha sigut un gran jugador, si Vaquero
he has been a great player, yes Vaquero
també ho ha sigut, i Xiqui Viristany
it has also been, and Xiqui Viristany
també ho ha sigut. No té
it has also been. It doesn't have
idea, val? I ja
Idea, right? And that's it.
definitivament, si no
definitely, if not
volem patir més, i
we want to suffer more, and
que cada partit sigui un suplici,
that every match be a torment,
hem de canviar-ho això.
We need to change this.
Després ell no canvia dinàmiques,
Afterward, he doesn't change dynamics.
sempre fa el mateix. Ahir una
he always does the same. Yesterday one
altra vegada, Sergi Roberto,
again, Sergi Roberto,
ell mor en
he dies in
els seus, val? Ahir
yours, okay? Yesterday
per un problema, no sé
due to a problem, I don't know
si molèsties, no sé si
if you bothered, I don't know if
perquè no el va veure bé, no sé
because he didn't see him well, I don't know
per què, va debutar
why, made his debut
a Cubarsi, que per cert ho va fer de cine
To Cubarsi, which by the way he did it perfectly.
i de pel·lícula, estic d'acord
And of the movie, I agree.
amb Michel, perquè sí, menys
with Michel, because yes, less
mal del planter, i
disease of the seedling, and
jo no és que
I don't mean that
sigui, aquí hagi vingut
be it, here it has come
a ser, a posar
to be, to put
un dit a l'anafra,
a finger to the anaphora,
ni a ser depressiu, però la realitat
neither to be depressing, but the reality
és esta, és un Barça
it's this one, it's a Barça
horrorós, i
horrible, and
a banda dels problemes
besides the problems
que hi ha, els problemes que hi ha en monetaris,
what there is, the problems that exist in monetary matters,
els problemes que hi ha de tota
the problems that exist with everything
classe d'índole, val?
class of nature, okay?
No afecten
They do not affect.
a lo que estem parlant,
to what we are talking about,
que és l'esportiu.
what is the sportsman.
Esportivament parlant, no
Sportively speaking, no.
té ni idea, ho sento molt.
I have no idea, I'm very sorry.
Esta és la realitat de l'equip
This is the reality of the team.
meu, val? Anirem a
mine, okay? We will go to
Camp del Betis, i una altra vegada,
Betis Stadium, and once again,
serà un suplici. I com bé ha dit
It will be a torment. And as it has been rightly said.
Pere, les rodes de premsa
Pere, the press releases
me cansen. Hi ha les d'abans
They tire me. There are the ones from before.
i les de després, perquè
and the ones afterwards, because
ja sé el que ha de dir, que juguem bé,
I know what he has to say, that we play well,
que sortirà d'aquí,
what will come out of here,
que sí, però hi ha prou discursos.
yes, but there are enough speeches.
Els discursos, jo quan els faig,
The speeches, when I give them,
jo quan estic a casa amb uns fills,
I when I'm at home with some children,
i els hi he de canviar
and I have to change them
dinàmiques, les reunions,
dynamics, the meetings,
els discursos, han de servir
the speeches must serve
per a canviar coses, i aquí no es
to change things, and here it is not
canvia res, continuem igual.
Nothing changes, we continue the same.
I respecte,
And respect,
el que he de dir és de Vinicius,
What I have to say is about Vinicius,
mireu, us ho vaig a dir, és un
look, I'm going to tell you, it's a
mal esportista, és un mal
bad athlete, he is a bad one
educat, és una
educated, it is a
mala persona que
bad person who
basant-se en la
based on the
tapadera esta
this lid
del racisme, provoca
of racism, provokes
el camp, toca els ombros
the field, touch the shoulders
als àrbits, fa el que li dona
to the trees, it does what it wants
la gana, una cosa que
hunger, something that
per a mi és absolutament
for me it is absolutely
com a exemple, però
as an example, but
els tiquets és horrorós,
the tickets are horrible,
i bueno, jo crec
Well, I think
que aquí he resumit prou clar
that I have summarized here quite clearly
com està la situació de tot el que
How is the situation regarding everything?
envolta el futbol avui en dia,
surrounds football nowadays,
perquè cada dia me canso més de veure
because every day I get more tired of seeing
tot el que veig, i aquí
all that I see, and here
ningú fica fil a l'agulla,
no one threads the needle,
tot va passant i tot se va
everything is passing and everything is going
fent, i el president
doing, and the president
del Barça, igual. Encara
from Barça, the same. Still
espero a hores d'ara, que és
I hope by now, that it is
la nit del divendres, encara espero
the night of Friday, I am still waiting
que el president me surt i que digui
that the president comes out and says
quelcom del
something of the
que està passant aquí, i
what is happening here, and
no surt ningú, ni el directe,
nobody is coming out, not even the live broadcast,
ni el director esportiu, anomenat
nor the sporting director, named
Deco, ni el director, ni
Deco, neither the director, nor
el president, ni el vicepresident
the president, nor the vice president
esportiu, ningú, ningú preu
sportsman, nobody, no price
cartes a l'assumpte, i és una
letters to the subject, and it is one
cosa gravíssima, gravíssima.
very serious thing, very serious.
Res més, ja ho he dit tot.
Nothing more, I have said everything.
Sisko Lausa i Miquel Castelló, com
Sisko Lausa and Miquel Castelló, like
vau veure esta final de Supercopa, i
did you see this Super Cup final, and
també el tema Vinicius.
also the topic Vinicius.
Sisko, sí,
Sisko, yes,
m'ho sents?
Do you hear me?
Sembla que Sisko no mos escolta.
It seems that Sisko doesn't hear us.
Miquel Castelló, endavant.
Miquel Castelló, go ahead.
Sí, aprofito per dir-vos que no hi ha
Yes, I take this opportunity to tell you that there is not.
tampoc no he tingut ocasió d'escoltar
I haven't had the chance to listen either.
Pere, no li he sentit gens lo que ha dit,
Pere, I didn't hear at all what he said.
i porto lo micro conforme
I bring the mic as agreed.
està parat,
he is stopped,
però coincidixo
but I agree
amb lo que deia Manolo,
with what Manolo said,
vull dir, lo Barça
I mean, the Barça.
esta temporada, ja ho hem dit en altres ocasions,
this season, we have already said on other occasions,
ha estat donant una imatge absolutament
it has been giving an absolutely
penosa, no és una
painful, it is not one
imatge que un
image that one
pensa que hauria de donar atenent
He thinks he should give attention.
als jugadors que té,
to the players that he has,
però esta és la realitat.
but this is the reality.
Ja hem parlat moltes vegades de Javi,
We have talked many times about Javi,
jo crec que Javi és un entrenador
I believe that Javi is a coach.
que va arribar al Barça
that arrived at Barça
full de la situació conjuntural que hi ha,
due to the current situational context,
no és un entrenador
he is not a coach
que
that
per la seva
for her/his/its
experiència com a tal
experience as such
pogués
could
pensar
to think
que podia agafar un equip
that I could take a team
com el Barça,
like Barça,
i de fet no està donant
and in fact, it is not giving
la talla en absolut.
the size in absolute terms.
La Supercopa
The Super Cup
mos crea molta temor, jo crec que
it creates a lot of fear for us, I believe that
si tothom dels que
if everyone of those who
formem part de la tertúlia mos haguéssim preguntat
if we were part of the talk, we would have asked ourselves
què en pensàvem abans de jugar-la,
what we thought before playing it,
jo vaig dir-ho, no tenia cap
I said it, I didn't have any.
esperança res, i en definitiva
hope nothing, and ultimately
no va passar res que no hagués passat
Nothing happened that hadn't already happened.
a partits anteriors.
to previous matches.
Portem tota la temporada patint
We've been suffering all season.
i de quina manera, jugant
and in what way, playing
malament contra equips, és igual que
bad against teams, it's the same as
siguem millors que naltros o que siguem
let's be better than us or that we are
molt inferiors, hem
much lower, we have
jugat malament a Barbastre, i
played badly in Barbastre, and
vam guanyar quasi bé plorant,
we nearly won while crying,
vam jugar malament ahir
we played poorly yesterday
contra un altre equip
against another team
de molt inferior categoria, que
of much lower category, that
a la primera part mos van passar la mà per la cara
in the first part they ran their hand over my face
i mos haguéssim pogut marcar un parell de gols més,
and we could have scored a couple more goals,
és un desastre,
it's a disaster,
és un desastre perquè
it's a disaster because
ni veig els jugadors
I don't see the players.
concentrats, ni veig un entrenador
concentrated, nor do I see a coach
incapacitat per a canviar absolutament res,
inability to change absolutely anything,
ni
nor
no ho sé, vull dir,
I don't know, I mean,
com diu Manolo, no tenim equip per a
as Manolo says, we don't have a team for
quedar entre els quatre primers de
to finish among the top four of
Lliga Espanyola, sinó per
Spanish League, but for
els defectes dels altres.
the faults of others.
Per tant, pessimistes,
Therefore, pessimists,
pessimistes, no
pessimists, no
podem amagar la realitat. Jo l'altre dia
we can hide reality. The other day I
deia que per a mi
said that for me
fins i tot ja ni crec
I don't even believe anymore.
que el canvi d'entrenador en aquests moments
that the change of coach at this time
sigui una solució.
be a solution.
El problema que té el Barça
The problem that Barça has
en aquests moments és un problema estructural,
at this moment it is a structural problem,
és un problema que no hi ha recursos econòmics,
it's a problem that there are no economic resources,
anem a fitxar
let's check in
sempre allò que els altres no volen
always what others do not want
i que d'alguna manera m'ho sortia baratet
and in some way it turned out to be cheaper for me
i les coses barates acaben sent cares.
And cheap things end up being expensive.
Però és que
But it is that
a nivell d'estructura d'equip
at the team structure level
està tot molt destrossat.
Everything is very destroyed.
Mitchell ha dit una cosa que
Mitchell has said something that
jo fa uns mesos també defensava,
A few months ago, I also defended,
la capacitat de generar cantera,
the ability to generate talent,
pedrera
quarry
en jugadors molt joves que estan entrant
in very young players who are coming in
a l'equip. En una situació
to the team. In a situation
com la que viu el primer equip
like the one the first team lives with
del Barça, donar
of Barça, give
la responsabilitat de posar galons a jugadors
the responsibility of giving stripes to players
com Valde, com Lamín,
like Valde, like Lamín,
com Pedri, jugadors molt joves
like Pedri, very young players
com Gabi, aquesta que es va lesionar, etc.
like Gabi, the one who got injured, etc.
és carregar-los una responsabilitat
It is a responsibility to charge them.
que pot
that can
perjudicar-los de cara al futur.
harm them in the future.
Per tant,
Therefore,
un equip
a team
que aspira a guanyar-ho tot i que
that aspires to win everything and that
té un equilibri entre jugadors
it has a balance between players
d'elit que marquen
of elite that mark
diferències i jugadors que estan
differences and players who are
deprenent i que són capaços
learning and that they are capable
en un futur de carregar-se l'equip a les costelles.
in a future of loading the team on the shoulders.
Però avui en dia no podem deixar la responsabilitat
But nowadays we cannot leave the responsibility.
dels nostres jugadors. I finalment,
of our players. And finally,
en el que s'ha parlat de Vinicius. Vinicius
in which Vinicius has been talked about. Vinicius
mai en la vida serà el millor jugador del món
he will never be the best player in the world
perquè és una mala persona.
because he/she is a bad person.
Ho ha dit Manolo també, i coincideixo.
Manolo has said it too, and I agree.
És una mala persona, és un
He is a bad person, he is one.
provocador nato, és una persona
a born provocateur, he is a person
que té un estil pandillero
that has a gang style
que a mi em sobra,
that I have in excess,
antideportiu
unsportsmanlike
100%, i que
100%, and what?
m'agradaria que algun dia hi hagués
I would like there to be one day.
algun àrbitre que tingués la valentia de posar-lo al carrer
any referee who had the courage to send him off the pitch
per uns quants partits.
for a few matches.
Perquè fa mèrits a cada partit,
Because it earns merits at every match,
perquè l'expulsin, i en canvi
so that they expel him, and yet
en el fet d'aquest
in the fact of this
suposat racisme que desperta la seva
supposed racism that awakens her
persona, doncs té una
person, so it has one
taula rasa
blank slate
en la qual se'l mesura molt diferent
in which he is measured very differently
de com se mesura en altres jugadors.
how it is measured in other players.
Xisco Laosa, mos escoltes?
Xisco Laosa, can you hear us?
Ah, perfecte. Endavant, Xisco.
Ah, perfect. Go ahead, Xisco.
Us preguntava per la Supercopa
I was asking you about the Super Cup.
i per Vinicius també. Tot seguit parlarem
And for Vinicius too. Next, we will talk.
de la Copa del Reis. Quan vulguis, Xisco.
of the Cup of Kings. Whenever you want, Xisco.
La Supercopa, l'anàlisi
The Supercup, the analysis
que ha fet Michel, el trobo
What has Michel done, I find him.
100% encertat. Evidentment, va ser
100% right. Obviously, it was.
molt, el Real Madrid va ser molt superior
very, Real Madrid was very superior
al Barcelona, i després,
in Barcelona, and afterwards,
clar, com ha dit
of course, as he/she has said
ben Michel, no se li poden deixar
Well Michel, they cannot be left to him.
estos espais al Madrid,
these spaces in Madrid,
deixar que el jugador quan té la pilota pugui
let the player, when he has the ball, be able to
pensar i pugui posar la pilota on vulgui,
to think and be able to place the ball wherever I want,
perquè són jugadors de qualitat,
because they are quality players,
no és una persona que no s'ha de quedar
she is not a person who should be left behind.
fent la pilota, no? Això per a mi
Being a sycophant, right? This for me.
guarda molta relació amb la manca d'intensitat
it has a lot to do with the lack of intensity
per part dels jugadors del Barça.
from the players of Barça.
Vull dir que no hi ha intensitat,
I mean that there is no intensity,
no la veus, no només
you don't see her, not just
en el partit contra el Real Madrid, també, per exemple,
in the match against Real Madrid, also, for example,
contra els unionistes igual,
against the unionists as well,
no hi veus la intensitat
you don't see the intensity
que passa en la pilota
What's happening in the ball?
com si fos
as if it were
una partida de futbolí.
a game of foosball.
No hi ha res, no?
There is nothing, is there?
És a dir,
That is to say,
no m'hi fixo només
I only don't pay attention to it.
en el partit que vam fer
in the match we played
contra el Real Madrid,
against Real Madrid,
sinó que en general
but in general
l'encefalograma del Barça
the encephalogram of Barça
és un encefalograma pla.
It is a flat electroencephalogram.
No sabem,
We don't know,
Manel Martínez també ho ha dit,
Manel Martínez has also said it,
no sabem a què juguem, si és que juguem a alguna cosa.
we don't know what we're playing at, if we're playing at anything.
L'altre dia ho vaig comparar
The other day I compared it.
i ja sé que és una mica
and I already know it's a bit
perpèptic, però és així. El Barça
perpetual, but that's how it is. The Barça
està jugant i és
is playing and is
com una gallina quan li talles
like a chicken when you cut it
el cap.
the head.
Que corre, corre, però no sap on va.
He runs, he runs, but he doesn't know where he's going.
No sap on va, doncs és igual aquí.
He doesn't know where he's going, so it doesn't matter here.
Quan corren, eh?, perquè no sempre corren.
When they run, huh?, because they don't always run.
Estem en estes.
We are in these.
Respecte al tema Vinicius,
Regarding the topic of Vinicius,
jo crec que, Michel, també
I believe that, Michel, too.
és un gran jugador, jo crec que és un gran jugador.
He is a great player, I believe he is a great player.
Com a jugador ja m'agradaria tenir
As a player, I would like to have.
el Barça, però una altra
the Barça, but another
cosa és la seva educació, la seva
what is her education, her
formació, les seues formes i maneres
training, its forms and ways
que li causarà, i l'està causant,
that it will cause him, and it is causing him,
més problemes al Madrid
more problems at Madrid
que ell mateix.
than he himself.
Algú ha dit aquí que té un
Someone has said here that they have a
tarannà de pandillero.
gangster mentality.
Doncs sí, de pandillero
Well yes, as a gang member.
i, perdoneu l'expressió,
yes, excuse the expression,
de xuloputas.
of bastards.
És una manera trista
It's a sad way.
de
of
una persona actuar d'aquestes maneres.
a person acting in these ways.
Voldríem tots que els jugadors,
We would all like the players,
a més de jugadors,
in addition to players,
fossin bones persones o se sabessin
if they were good people or knew it
comportar al camp de futbol.
to behave on the football field.
I això no passa amb Vinicius.
And this doesn't happen with Vinicius.
I per altra banda, com els altres
And on the other hand, like the others.
equips ja el coneixen, doncs van a
teams already know him, as they go to
provocar el que és el que, d'una certa
provoke what is what, of a certain
manera, a ell també li agrada, no?
In a way, he likes it too, right?
Fer-se víctima en algunes circumstàncies.
To become a victim in certain circumstances.
També hem de denunciar
We also need to denounce.
el permisisme que té
the permissiveness it has
per part de molts àrbitres.
on the part of many referees.
Potser si jugués a un altre equip no el tindria.
Maybe if he played for another team he wouldn't have it.
I respecte a la
And regarding the
qüestió del Barça, mireu, jo
Regarding the Barça issue, look, I...
ja he desistit.
I have already desisted.
L'únic que espero
The only thing I hope for
i desitjo és que arribéssim a final
And what I wish is that we reach the end.
de curs, a final de temporada,
of course, at the end of the season,
i llavors passar
and then pass
contes. I passar contes no només
stories. And telling stories not only
amb el resultat de l'equip
with the team's result
de futbol, del primer equip,
from football, of the first team,
i de Javi i de tot l'estat
and of Javi and of the entire state
tècnic. Parlar, passar contes
technical. Talk, tell stories
a nivell de club, això és una disbauxa.
At the club level, this is a debacle.
Aquí no sabem, abans
Here we don't know, before.
no sé qui ho comentava, que no
I don't know who mentioned it, but not.
tenim cap tipus d'informació. Els socis
we have no information whatsoever. The partners
estem deixats a la mà
we are left to our own devices
de Déu. Ens fan coses
of God. They do things to us.
que no s'expliquen.
that cannot be explained.
I per altra banda
And on the other hand
vas veient com s'estan
are you seeing how they are
gastant diners sense tindre'n
spending money without having it
d'una manera que
in a way that
jo al·lucino. Ara mateix,
I am amazed. Right now,
Víctor Roque,
Victor Roque,
no tenim diners.
we don't have money.
Us han gastat 86 milions d'euros
They have spent 86 million euros on you.
o 66 milions
or 66 million
d'euros, és igual, per a un jugador
of euros, it doesn't matter, for a player
que el tenim a la banqueta i que,
that we have on the bench and that,
per tant,
therefore,
ha de continuar a la banqueta.
It must continue on the bench.
És tan necessari portar-lo ja
Is it so necessary to take it now?
per a tindre'l a la banqueta?
To have him on the bench?
No ho entenc.
I don't understand.
I altres coses.
And other things.
És a dir, no trobo jo
That is to say, I don't find myself.
solució actual
current solution
canviant d'entrenador.
changing coach.
Crec que a Javi
I think Javi
se li haurà de continuar donant confiança,
he will have to continue being given trust,
ni que sigui perquè no tenim un duro
not even because we don't have a dime
per a poder canviar d'entrenador,
in order to change coach,
però jo esperaria a final de curs,
but I would wait until the end of the term,
com en les classes i en els cursos,
like in the classes and in the courses,
i llavors passar factura.
And then I will bill.
I no només a l'equip de futbol
And not only to the football team.
i no només
and not only
a l'entrenador o a l'estaf
to the coach or to the staff
tècnic de l'equip de futbol, sinó
team football technician, but
al club en si. I jo
to the club itself. And I
sóc dels que defensaria una moció
I am one of those who would defend a motion.
de censura si les coses
of censorship if things
no van com ha anat
they didn't go as it was supposed to
fins ara.
until now.
Això és inaguantable.
This is unbearable.
Acabarem destruint
We will end up destroying.
el club en tres diners.
the club in three coins.
Algun comentari
Any comments?
referent al que deia Sisko Laosa
regarding what Sisko Laosa said
dels altres tertulians?
of the other participants?
Una pregunta per als del Barça.
A question for the Barça fans.
Per què no juga Víctor Roque?
Why isn’t Víctor Roque playing?
És per l'entrenador o és per
Is it for the coach or is it for
hi ha algo de diners per detrás
There's something money behind it.
d'aquells 40 milions?
of those 40 million?
No entenc un home
I don't understand a man.
que ve ara en fama de
that comes now in fame of
i que no jugue ni...
and that he doesn't even play...
Jo tampoc ho entenc.
I don't understand it either.
Si era tan necessari
If it was so necessary
portar-lo perquè Lewandowski
bring him because Lewandowski
continués tant com està,
you continue as you are,
no entenc que ara
I don't understand what now.
el tingués a la banqueta
I had him on the bench.
i el vagués traient dosificadament.
And the vagueness removing it in moderation.
Perquè jo penso que ahí sí
Because I think that's where it is.
que tenia que jugar, almenys
that I had to play, at least
mitja part sí, contra
half time yes, against
un equip menor.
a younger team.
Que s'adapte.
Let it adapt.
És com si
It's as if
et compres un traje
you buy yourself a suit
que val molts diners
that costs a lot of money
i només el tens
and you only have it
per anar per casa.
to go around the house.
No ho entenc.
I don't understand.
No entenc res.
I don't understand anything.
Abans algú ha menció
Before someone mentions
el tipus de fitxatge
the type of hiring
que fan.
what they do.
És que al·lucino
I am just amazed.
en els fitxatges que han fet.
in the signings they have made.
Si no és que
If it's not that
hi ha pensó malament,
he thought badly,
si no és que hi ha comissions
unless there are commissions
per detrás, que algú
from behind, let someone
s'està embutxacant diners,
he is pocketing money,
no entenc que facin
I don't understand what they're doing.
lo que estan fent.
what they are doing.
Malgastar diners d'estes maneres
Wasting money in these ways
no ho entenc, no ho entenc.
I don't understand it, I don't understand it.
Algú vol afegir, comentar algo més?
Does anyone want to add or comment on anything else?
Sí, jo.
Yes, me.
Una mica mos hem desviat
We've strayed a bit.
del que era el tema esportiu.
of what was the sports theme.
Jo sí que vull dir una cosa
I do want to say something.
que tinc ganes
that I feel like
de dir-la,
to say it,
que un dia podem fer un monogràfic,
that one day we can do a monograph,
perquè avui no mos donaria temps,
because today it wouldn't give us time,
per a parlar de la figura del president.
to talk about the figure of the president.
Un president
A president
que
that
a tots els tertulians que estem aquí ho sabem,
we all know here,
fa anys
years ago
natros duiem a la samarreta
we wear the shirt
un lema, que era Qatar Airways,
a slogan, which was Qatar Airways,
on
on
dia sí, dia
day yes, day
també, la premsa
also, the press
i no vull dir noms, perquè me'l sé
And I don't want to say names, because I know it.
de memòria, però no fa falta dir-los,
by heart, but there’s no need to tell them,
cada matí estaven obrint
every morning they were opening
les editorials dels seus programes
the editorials of their programs
en què això era
what this was about
diners del terrorisme
terrorism money
islàmic, de
Islamic, of
dale que te pego, bueno,
give it to me, well,
no m'allargaré. I ara, mon amnat,
I won't prolong it. And now, my beloved,
Aràbia Saudita, jo ja sé
Saudi Arabia, I already know.
que anem per la Real Federación Española de Fútbol,
that we go through the Royal Spanish Football Federation,
però
but
he vist el meu president
I have seen my president.
amb els xeics allà saltant, votant,
with the sheikhs there jumping, voting,
donant per a mi
giving for me
una imatge
an image
que no,
no,
com bé ha dit Pere,
as Pere has said well,
no és una imatge que a mi
it's not an image that to me
més sàpiga com a soci
more knowledge as a partner
del Barça,
of Barça,
cosa que quedi bé
something that looks good
davant la gent,
in front of the people,
i,
and,
si parlem d'un president,
if we talk about a president,
ojo,
eye,
és el que ha despedit a Messi
he is the one who has dismissed Messi
del Barça,
from Barça,
és el que li han dimitit,
it's what they have resigned from.
no sé si en portem dos o tres,
I don't know if we have two or three.
directors o CEOs
directors or CEOs
econòmics,
economics,
Reverter, Mateu Alemany,
Reverter, Mateu Alemany,
bueno, no continuaré per aquí,
well, I won't continue here,
directors esportius, Jordi Cruyff,
sporting directors, Jordi Cruyff,
ara tenim un altre que és d'ECO,
now we have another one that is from ECO,
no sé quan durarà, i clar,
I don't know how long it will last, and of course,
d'això podríem fer-ne un monogràfic un dia,
we could make a monograph on this one day,
i llavors parlarem
And then we will talk.
i trobarem moltes causes
and we will find many causes
que no només són Xavi,
that they are not just Xavi,
de tot això que hem parlat aquí,
from all that we have talked about here,
però que l'arbre no està pel bosc,
but the tree is not in the forest,
Xavi
Xavi
no és l'entrenador
he is not the coach
per al Barcelona i s'hauria de cessar
for Barcelona and it should be ceased
ipso facto,
immediately,
ni a final de temporada ni res,
neither at the end of the season nor anything.
i si no se cessa
and if it does not cease
recomano un assessor
I recommend an advisor.
al costat de la banqueta,
next to the bench,
que se partiga el germà
let the brother break
i ell que fiqui la cara
and let him show his face
i un assessor que sàpiga de futbol
and an advisor who knows about football
i que reorganitzi
and reorganize
en la mesura de lo possible
to the extent possible
en este plantel.
in this roster.
Hi ha jugadors de qualitat? Sí,
Are there quality players? Yes,
però també hi ha jugadors
but there are also players
exjugadors i també hi ha
former players and there are also
jugadors los quals no
players who do not
tenen categoria
they have category
per estar representant la samarreta del Barça
for representing the Barça shirt
i no em fesseu dir noms
and don't make me say names
perquè no en tinc ganes,
because I don't feel like it,
però hi ha jugadors que no poden portar
but there are players that cannot be brought
la samarreta del Barça perquè no tenen
the Barça jersey because they don't have it
qualitat suficient per
sufficient quality for
agafar les rendes d'aquest equip.
take the reins of this team.
I em sembla que avui
It seems to me that today
estic dient les coses molt clares.
I am being very clear about things.
Molt clares, sempre, avui i sempre, Manolo.
Very clear, always, today and always, Manolo.
No sé si algú més vol afegir
I don't know if anyone else wants to add.
alguna cosa més d'aquest tema.
anything else on this topic.
Míxel i després demanava,
Míxel and then asked,
no sé si Pere, Paula o...
I don't know if Pere, Paula or...
Per curiositat vos contaré
Out of curiosity, I will tell you.
una cosa. Tots els anys
One thing. Every year.
los veteranos del Barça fan
the veterans of Barça do
un viatge
a journey
arreu d'Espanya
throughout Spain
en les dones i tal,
in women and such,
i en guany
and this year
lo van fer aquí al Delta.
they did it here in the Delta.
I parlat en un
And spoken in a
exjugador del Barça
former Barça player
Que no mos diràs qui és, Míxel?
Won't you tell us who it is, Míxel?
No, mos va contar que
No, he told us that.
és més greu del que
it's more serious than what
la premsa i tot allò
the press and all that
diu. Hi ha molt, molt, molt
says. There is a lot, a lot, a lot.
de malamaró
of bad behavior
dins, en la part econòmica.
inside, in the economic part.
No hi ha un duro, però no saben
There isn't a dime, but they don't know.
ni per a sortir-ne
nor to get out of it
i que
and that
això tindrà conseqüències.
this will have consequences.
Estan endeutant moltíssim,
They are going into a lot of debt,
això em contava, i que
this is what he/she was telling me, and that
l'ego sortirà
the ego will come out
tot, però estan allò
everything, but they are there
de dir, avui caic, ara m'aixeco
To say, today I fall, now I get up.
i... Bastant més
I... Quite a bit more.
greu del que parlem.
serious of what we are talking about.
No sé si algú més havia demanat la paraula
I don't know if anyone else had requested the floor.
després de Míxel.
after Míxel.
No? Joan, volem saber
No? Joan, we want to know.
també la teua opinió, que el tenim al
also your opinion, which we have at the
Comprar amb Joan Bericat a les vies de So
Shopping with Joan Bericat on the avenues of Sound
Joan, és un entès de futbol, de vòlei...
Joan is an expert in football, in volleyball...
Sí, una cosa.
Yes, one thing.
No res,
Nothing,
res que no hagin dit els meus companys.
nothing that my colleagues haven't said.
La Supercopa,
The Super Cup,
un desastre,
a disaster,
un desastre, desastre, desastre.
a disaster, disaster, disaster.
Jo me'n recordo que tenia
I remember that I had
unes ganes del partit brutals,
a tremendous desire for the match,
era una final, de fet
it was a final, in fact
a la meva parella li vaig regalar una camiseta
I gave my partner a t-shirt.
del Barça per a Stam,
from Barça for Stam,
i l'anàvem a estrenar,
and we were going to premiere it,
anàvem a veure
we were going to see
la final, tal,
the final, such,
passen 10 minuts, 2-0.
10 minutes pass, 2-0.
Com pot ser això?
How can this be?
Passen 10 minuts, 2-0,
10 minutes pass, 2-0,
i arribes al minut 75, perdem 4-1,
and you arrive at minute 75, we are losing 4-1,
75, encara que
75, although
15 minuts, per a deixar-te la pell,
15 minutes, to leave you skinless,
per a córrer, per a...
to run, to...
I el Barça ja havia assumit que havia perdut,
And Barça had already accepted that they had lost,
i el Barça va donar
and Barça gave
una imatge, jo trobo que
an image, I find that
deplorable, no?
deplorable, isn't it?
Una imatge...
An image...
molt, molt, molt,
very, very, very,
molt deplorable.
very deplorable.
Crec que tenim problemes
I think we have problems.
de so. Algun problema tècnic
of sound. Some technical problem
sembla ser que Manuel Martínez i... Hola, hola.
it seems that Manuel Martínez and... Hello, hello.
No s'entén?
Doesn't it understand?
Sembla ser que Manuel Martínez
It seems that Manuel Martínez
i Miquel Castelló no s'entén.
I Miquel Castelló cannot be understood.
No s'entén, eh?
It isn't understood, huh?
Són coses, a vegades, que passen,
Sometimes, these things happen.
poden passar, problemes tècnics... En teoria
Technical problems can occur... In theory.
se sent bé, eh? Però
It feels good, huh? But
suposo que ells potser, a l'estar online...
I suppose that they maybe, being online...
Bueno, acabo ràpid.
Well, I’ll finish quickly.
Això, trobo que també jo
I think so too.
crec que és una situació que els jugadors
I think it is a situation that the players
haurien de fer un pas abans,
they should take a step back,
també, perquè trobo que
also, because I find that
moltes vegades va ser
many times it was
qüestió d'actitud, també, la final,
a matter of attitude, too, in the end,
i, evidentment, trobo que Xavi
And, of course, I think that Xavi
no sap ja quasi, quasi
he/she hardly knows anymore, almost
ni a què vol jugar, ni a què pot jugar,
neither what he wants to play, nor what he can play,
és el que deia Míxel. No sé si intentem
it's what Míxel was saying. I don't know if we're trying
tornar a ser el Barça
to be the Barça again
d'aquella època, però la realitat és que el Barça
from that time, but the reality is that Barça
d'aquella època no tornarà, no? I els jugadors
That time won't return, will it? And the players?
se veu que no estan preparats per jugar
It seems that they are not ready to play.
aquest telejoc. Llavors, què farem?
this game show. So, what will we do?
Com jugarem, no? I
How shall we play, right? I
estan els problemes econòmics que jo trobo
there are the economic problems that I find
que, com diu Míxel, condicionen
that, as Míxel says, condition
molt el club. Una... una
very the club. One... one
locura. I Vinicius, també, com han tocat,
madness. And Vinicius, too, as they have played,
és que lo de Vinicius no té solució.
The situation with Vinicius has no solution.
És així, és una persona així,
That's how it is, that's the kind of person they are.
i a sobre és una cosa molt impostada.
And on top of that, it's a very contrived thing.
Ell ho
He does it.
imposta molt, vol ser així. Ell vol ser així.
It imposes a lot, it wants to be like this. He wants to be like this.
Li agrada ser així.
He/She likes to be this way.
Se fica entre...
It gets in between...
Perdó, pero se fica cachondo, entre cometes,
Sorry, but it gets turned on, in quotes.
com diu Piqueno, se fica cachondo.
as Piqueno says, he gets horny.
Ell també se fica cachondo fent això
He also gets turned on doing this.
i provocant i tal, i encarant,
and provoking and such, and confronting,
i allà dient-li l'agrada a l'Atletico
And there telling him he likes Atletico.
soy muy bueno, soy muy bueno,
I am very good, I am very good.
soy buenísimo.
I am really good.
I després Griezmann
And then Griezmann.
marca, perquè ell defensa... bueno, però
mark, because he defends... well, but
és una cosa que jo trobo
it is something that I find
que, com diem,
that, as we say,
ja és que no té arreglo. I a mi lo que em sorprèn
it's just that it can't be fixed. And what surprises me
és que Florentino no l'hagi agafat per banda
it's just that Florentino hasn't taken him aside
i li hagui dit, tu, escolta, xaval... Potser l'han
and I have said to him, you, listen, kid... Maybe they have
agafat, no? Míxel no fa cas, no?
Got it, right? Míxel is not paying attention, is he?
No sé què pensa Míxel, però...
I don't know what Míxel thinks, but...
Jo crec que ja li han fet moltes
I believe they have already done many to him/her.
reflexions, però que no fa cas directament.
reflections, but that does not take direct notice.
És una sensació segona, eh? Sí, és que, claro,
It's a second feeling, huh? Yes, it's just that, of course,
la diferència és que és un jugador determinant,
the difference is that he is a key player,
és un jugador diferencial, que
he is a differential player, who
al Madrid ja li va bé,
Madrid is already fine with it,
i que, doncs, juga en foc
And so, play with fire.
i el dia a dia... És una mica preu que han de pagar, no?,
And the day-to-day... It's a bit of a price they have to pay, right?
per tindre un bon jugador, però que es comporta malament.
to have a good player, but who behaves badly.
Perquè, a banda de que
Because, apart from the fact that
sigui un caràcter tal,
be a character such,
és molt, molt
it's very, very
desequilibrant, i ell ho sap,
unbalancing, and he knows it,
i ell juga en això, per lo tant.
And he plays in this, therefore.
I al madridisme ja li va bé, eh?
And Madridismo is already fine with that, right?
No, sí, el jugador,
No, yes, the player,
per lo tant, cap problema.
Therefore, no problem.
Si los del Barça,
If the Barça fans,
que han de dir, i els de l'Atlètic
what they have to say, and those from Atlético
de Madrid, que han de dir, doncs bueno,
from Madrid, what can they say, well,
ja està. Bueno, bueno, és lo que hi ha.
That's it. Well, well, it is what it is.
Res, continuem.
Nothing, let's continue.
Atac i gol, esta tertúria futbolística
Attack and goal, this football talk show.
que fem todos los divendres a las 10 de la nit a 21 Radio,
What we do every Friday at 10 at night on 21 Radio,
mos podeu escoltar a 21radio.cat
you can listen to us at 21radio.cat
i al canal 34 de la TDT. No sé si, Joan,
and on channel 34 of the digital terrestrial television. I don't know if, Joan,
hem pogut solventar estos petits
we have been able to resolve these little ones
problemes tècnics que teníem, ara ho comprovarem.
technical problems we had, we will check it now.
No sé si els meus companys
I don't know if my colleagues
d'online poden dir alguna cosa
"Can they say something about online?"
per a comprovar si m'ho senten.
to check if they can hear me.
Sembla que ha... O que s'ha
It seems that has... Or that it has
semblat que hi ha algun problema i que no
it seems that there is some problem and that there is not
i que no mos senten, eh? Pere, tampoc?
And they can't hear us, right? Pere, neither?
Pere Parisello, tampoc?
Pere Parisello, neither?
No, tenim els companys,
No, we have the colleagues.
quatre companys que entren a la tertúlia
four companions who enter the discussion group
que no mos estan escoltant
that they are not listening to us
en este moment. Anem a ver si
at this moment. Let's see if
entraren i surtin d'esta sessió, perquè entren-los
They entered and leave this session, because they enter them.
i anem a explicar als oients.
And we are going to explain to the listeners.
Correcte, correcte.
Correct, correct.
Ara sí, ara sí, ara sí.
Now yes, now yes, now yes.
Tot això, de fora,
All of this, from the outside,
ja fot una puló. Què dius d'això?
It's really annoying. What do you say about that?
No, ara sí que
No, now yes.
ara sí que estem ja, ara sí que
Now we are really ready, now we really are.
ara sí que us escolteu, eh? Exacte.
Now you can hear us, right? Exactly.
La clau està aquí, aquí el Joan. Bueno, fem una miqueta tertúlia en privat, eh?
The key is here, here is Joan. Well, let's have a little chat in private, okay?
Paral·lela, no? Paral·lela.
Parallel, right? Parallel.
Mentre feu tertúlia
While you are having a chat.
en privat, a Marcal o Madrid,
in private, in Marcal or Madrid,
tres, eh? Quatre-tres, estem
Three, huh? Four-three, we are.
i canvia tot.
and everything changes.
Ja hem passat a la copa...
We have already passed to the cup...
Hàgaseu estat atentos
Please be attentive.
i, com sou lo Barça, no esteu atentos.
And, like Barça, you are not paying attention.
Nosaltres... Bueno, anem a la
We... Well, let's go to the
Copa del Rei. Va, Michel, comencem per tu,
King's Cup. Come on, Michel, let's start with you.
perquè, a veure, el Barça, tot i el susto inicial,
because, let's see, Barça, despite the initial scare,
l'ensurt inicial que Unionistes va...
the initial shock that Unionistes...
Salamanca va marcar primer, va acabar passant als quarts
Salamanca scored first and ended up advancing to the quarter-finals.
guanyant 1-3
winning 1-3
i, en canvi, el Madrid
and, on the other hand, Madrid
eliminava el Real Madrid, 4-2
eliminated Real Madrid, 4-2
a la pròrroga, atrevegada amb Vinicius
in extra time, daring with Vinicius
com a protagonista. Michel,
as the protagonist. Michel,
ja no seria possible el triplet, però almenys la Copa del Rei
it would no longer be possible for the treble, but at least the Copa del Rey
segur que la guanya el Madrid, eh? No, home, perquè
Surely Madrid will win it, right? No, come on, why?
no podríem entrar més copes, estan fent obres,
we couldn't bring in more glasses, they are doing construction.
han d'acabar de redonir-ho tot,
they have to finish rounding it all off,
estan fent obres, mos falta la lleixa
They are doing construction work, we are missing the shelf.
esta per a posar, i van dir, no,
it's about to be put on, and they said, no,
no la poses, no la guanyes. Justa victòria
If you don't put it in, you don't win it. Just victory.
a l'Atlètic o no? Com vas veure este partit de Copa del Rei?
At Atlético or not? How did you see this Copa del Rey match?
A vore, lo fútbol, lo fútbol
Let's see, football, football.
per a mi és de canta entre encerts
For me, it's about singing among successes.
i fallos, i segons
faults, and seconds
i segons l'encert
and according to the accuracy
o segons els falles, pues
or according to the fails, well
te penalitzen. En equips tan igualats,
they penalize you. In such evenly matched teams,
l'Atlètic de Madrid li tenia
Atletico Madrid had him.
també moltes ganes al
also a lot of excitement for the
Madrid, i
Madrid, and
hi ha fallos
there are errors
que no es poden cometre
that cannot be committed
i penalitzen lo de
and penalize the thing about
l'Uni, lo de l'Uni allí,
the Uni, the Uni there,
lo de... i el de Vinicius
the one about... and Vinicius' one
volguent atacar
wanting to attack
o traure la pilota Griezmann
or take the ball from Griezmann
quan ell no es defensa
when he does not defend himself
li trau malament
it hurts him badly
i va per detrás i
and goes behind and
li deixa entrar a l'àrea, pues
he lets him into the area, then
en fin, vaig xalar perquè
In short, I enjoyed myself because
va ser un partit molt intens
it was a very intense match
i d'això es tracta, eh?
And that's what it's about, right?
i, pues
and, well
el que hem de fer
what we have to do
l'any que ve tornarem a
next year we will return to
guanyar, en Enric
win, Enric
i en tots estos, que també tenim un equipet jovenet
And in all these, we also have a young team.
naltros, eh? També, també.
Us too, huh? Also, also.
Volem, hem de dir que este programa
We want to, we have to say that this program
s'ha enregistrat, l'enregistrem a les 9 del matí
It has been recorded, we will record it at 9 in the morning.
s'emet a les 10 de la nit, i ha estat
it is broadcast at 10 at night, and it has been
i ha sigut el sorteig de la Copa del Rei, i avui a la 1
The draw for the Copa del Rey has taken place, and today at 1.
del migdia, lògicament no podem
in the afternoon, we cannot logically
donar els emprenyaments, o els valorarem la setmana
give the annoyances, or we will assess them next week
la setmana que ve. Pere, com vas veure este
next week. Pere, how did you see this?
unionistes a la banca Barça i este Atlètic de Madrid
unionists at Barça bank and this Atlético de Madrid
Real Madrid? Que tal, esta jornada de Copa del Rei?
Real Madrid? How's it going, this King's Cup matchday?
Bé, el Atlètic
Well, the Athletic.
de Madrid-Real Madrid lo vaig veure molt bé,
from Madrid-Real Madrid I saw it very well,
la veritat, si em sap mal,
the truth is, if it hurts me,
que tan a mi que és lo Madrid del
that so to me that is the Madrid of
rei, que no pogués anar a rebre la
king, who could not go to receive her
Copa, vull dir, jo crec que aquí
Cup, I mean, I think that here
estan, estan molt tristos,
they are very sad,
estan molt tristos, sobretot el president.
They are very sad, especially the president.
En teoría del Atlètic, ¿no?, lo rey de Atlètic, te lo he dit.
In theory of the Athletic, right?, the king of Athletic, I told you.
Sí, sobretot el president,
Yes, especially the president,
jo, està molt trist. Bé, lo
I, it is very sad. Well, the
partit, lo partit del
party, the party of
Madrid contra el
Madrid against him
Camp de l'Atlètic, bé, va ser, doncs, un partit
Atlético's field, well, it was, then, a match.
de Copa, un partit en què
of Cup, a match in which
crec que tots van
I think they all go.
mostrar les seues armes,
show their weapons,
però la veritat és que bé, van hi haure
but the truth is that well, there will be
uns errors de defensa
some defensive errors
que normalment no es donen, però
that are usually not given, but
que el futbol és així.
that football is like this.
Vinicius
Vinicius
va ser lo que va fer perdre el Madrid
it was what made Madrid lose
ahir, vull dir, una pilota
Yesterday, I mean, a ball.
que no va controlar bé i que se li'n va anar
that he did not control well and that it got away from him
Griezmann, i va entrar a l'àrea i va fer un golàs.
Griezmann entered the area and scored a great goal.
Este Griezmann, que per a
This Griezmann, who for
naltros no en rascava una, i
we didn't scratch one, and
que ara l'Atlètic de Madrid ha tornat altra vegada
that now Atlético Madrid has returned again
a demostrar
to demonstrate
lo jugador que és, però bé, ja
the player that he is, but well, already
van hi haure més molts motius
there will be many more reasons
aquí al Barça per a poder no
here at Barça to not be able
desenvolupar el seu futbol, perquè una vegada més
develop their football, because once again
pensàvem que no era lo futbolista que
we thought he wasn't the footballer that
estava el Barça, vull dir, que és lo mateix
it was Barça, I mean, it's the same thing.
que estem parlant ara, quan els fitxatges
What are we talking about now, when the signings?
com han de jugar pels extrems, lo Barça, si no
how should Barça play on the wings, if not
té extrems, si no en té cap d'extrem, lo Barça.
It has extremes; if it has none, it's Barça.
L'únic que té és lo Jamal,
The only thing he has is Jamal.
no en té ningú més, vull
nobody else has it, I want it
dir, lo Rafinha
say, the Rafinha
no és extrem, és un jugador que
he is not extreme, he is a player who
se'n va sempre pel mig i no hi ha ningú més
He always goes through the middle and there is not anyone else.
i com ho va jugar
And how did he/she play it?
el Barça? Doncs ja ho vam dir abans, és que
Barça? Well, we said it before, it's just that
es más de lo mismo de siempre,
it's more of the same as always,
y la veritat es que lo que a mi, per lo menos,
and the truth is that what for me, at least,
me entristeix més es que
what saddens me more is that
después pues que surtigue
after it came out
que surtigue l'entrenador
that the coach comes out
Javi, que digue que s'ha fet un bon partit,
Javi, who says that a good match has been played,
que estos son un gran equip,
that they are a great team,
va pel mitjan de taula
goes through the middle of the table
i penso que hem de fer 12 o 13 gols
And I think we need to score 12 or 13 goals.
en 18 partits o en 19, que va eliminar
in 18 matches or in 19, who was eliminated
el Villarreal, que va eliminar el Gijón,
Villarreal, which eliminated Gijón,
que això o tal, bueno, escolta,
that this or such, well, listen,
que no m'ho xupem lo dit, que no
don’t suck my finger, no
no baixem ara del núvol,
we're not coming down from the cloud now,
que jo, bueno, vull dir que
that I, well, I mean that
llavons jo crec que
I think that
lo partit pues va mostrar una vegada més
the party then showed once again
les mancances que tenim, i que, ok,
the shortcomings we have, and that, okay,
crec que hi ha jugadors que
I think there are players who
ja sé que per a un entrenador
I know that for a coach
gestionar un vestidor
manage a wardrobe
en figures mundials
in world figures
i que més moltes
And what more, many.
ja estan de tornada de moltes coses,
they are already back from many things,
deu ser complicat, però que
it must be complicated, but what
més d'un ja crec que s'hauria
more than one I already believe that should have
de donar algun descans.
to give some rest.
I lo de Roque es lo que parlàvem abans,
And what happened with Roque is what we were talking about earlier,
ahir va dir después que se tenía unas molestias
Yesterday he said afterwards that he had some discomfort.
y que pero eso no lo va a hacer, pero
and what but that's not going to happen, but
eso son cosas de estas
those are things like these
que, de la manera que es diu,
that, the way it is said,
dubtem que siga així, que per unes molèsties,
we doubt it is like this, that due to some inconveniences,
vull dir, a veure, lo lògic
I mean, let's see, the logical thing.
seria, ahir, que hagués jugat
it would be, yesterday, that he/she would have played
ell i no el Marc Guiu,
he and not Marc Guiu,
i a mi el Marc Guiu m'agrada, eh?, perquè
And I like Marc Guiu, you know?, because
és un delante centro, delante centro,
it's a forward center, forward center,
i que lluita i que va, i
and that fights and that goes, and
igual que Fermín, vull dir que es nota
Just like Fermín, I want to say that it shows.
los jugadores que
the players who
donen tot el camp i que juguen en una intensitat
they give everything on the field and play with intensity
que no juguen els demés, no?
so that the others don't play, right?
I, a més, vam tindre la gran sort
I, moreover, had the great luck
de fer dos golaços, vull dir,
to score two great goals, I mean,
dels dos que lo conde de fora
of the two that the count of outside
l'àrea, i
the area, and
i l'altre, que normalment
and the other, which usually
que són xuts
what are kicks
que entrem quan entrem, però és que si no
that we enter when we enter, but it's just that if not
el partit estava encallat, estava encallat,
the match was stuck, it was stuck,
és que no xutàvem a porta, no xutàvem a porta,
it's just that we weren't shooting at the goal, we weren't shooting at the goal,
seguia estant encallat, i bé,
I was still stuck, and well,
vull dir, per sort, vam tindre un cert
I mean, luckily, we had a certain
este, i hem passat eliminatòria,
this, and we have passed the elimination round,
però no
but no
no mos enganyéssim ningú, i
let's not deceive anyone, and
lo que estàvem parlant és que aquí
what we were talking about is that here
la formació de
the formation of
la plantilla i la manera que va, i
the lineup and the way it goes, and
i la sortida de Mateu Alemany, i la
and the exit of Mateu Alemany, and the
cremada de Deco, i la influència dels portuguesos,
burnt Deco, and the influence of the Portuguese,
i la manera que està,
and the way it is,
dona una sensació que no
gives a feeling that does not
que crec jo, que
that I think, that
et crea molts dubtes, no?, per no dir-ho
It creates a lot of doubts for you, doesn't it? Not to say the least.
d'una altra manera. I, per tant,
in another way. And, therefore,
jo espero que poguéssim acabar
I hope we could finish.
els quatre primers, ja ho he dit abans,
the first four, I have said it before,
i otra cosa mariposa,
and another thing, butterfly,
pero en lo presidente este, en la manera que estem,
but in the current situation, in the way we are,
si no es posa una mica d'orden
if some order is not put in place
i este problema estructural que hi ha,
and this structural problem that exists,
que estic d'acord, lo que diu Manolo,
I agree with what Manolo says.
no s'arregla, i lo que diu Cisco
it doesn't get fixed, and what Cisco says
també, de la manera que estan els socis
also, in the way the partners are
abandonats,
abandoned,
jo crec que lo futur no és massa bo.
I believe that the future is not very good.
Miquel, com vas veure esta jornada de Copa del Rey
Miquel, how did you see this Copa del Rey match?
en la que el Barça va avançar a quarts de final
in which Barça advanced to the quarter-finals
i el Madrid va quedar eliminat?
And did Madrid get eliminated?
Jo, la primera part,
I, the first part,
vaig acabar, la primera part del Barça
I finished the first part of Barça.
contra el Salamanca,
against Salamanca,
vaig acabar desesperat.
I ended up desperate.
Desesperat.
Desperate.
Vaig xutar,
I kicked,
lo Barça va xutar una vegada a porta,
Barça shot at goal once.
que va ser el gol,
that was the goal,
i el Salamanca
and the Salamanca
al minut u ja mos hagués pogut marcar el primer.
In the first minute, he could have already scored the first goal for us.
Sí, sí.
Yes, yes.
Una rejugada que va atraure la
A replay that attracted the
Iñaki Peña
Iñaki Peña
i el golaç que van marcar.
and the goal they scored.
Va ser la primera part,
It was the first part,
el Salamanca va ser un equip superior
Salamanca was a superior team.
i mos ha de preocupar-mos.
And we have to worry.
Lo que diu Pere és un equip de
What Pere says is a team of
tercera divisió.
third division.
És un equip de tercera divisió
It is a third division team.
i de la meitat de la taula.
and from the middle of the table.
Jo la segona part vaig desconnectar,
I disconnected during the second part.
per la ràdio,
on the radio,
i vaig desconnectar,
I disconnected.
perquè vull dir, és que no pot ser,
because I mean, it can't be,
que cada vegada que vinguéssim un partit del Barça
that every time we came to a Barça game
acabéssim mal de cap
we ended up with a headache
o acabéssim amb malestar personal,
or we would end up with personal discomfort,
no pot ser.
It cannot be.
I ho repetís, i contínuament.
I would repeat it, and continuously.
Del partit
Of the match
de l'Atlètic i del Madrid
of the Athletic and of Madrid
en principi no pensava veure-ho
I didn't think I would see it in principle.
i al final vaig acabar veient la segona part
And in the end, I ended up watching the second part.
i la pròrroga em va semblar un partidàs.
And the extra time seemed like a great match to me.
Allò que esperes veure d'equips
What you expect to see from teams
com el Madrid, com l'Atlètic, com el Barça.
like Madrid, like Atlético, like Barça.
Uns i els altres van jugar
One another played.
a totes
to everyone
tot el rato que va dur el partit.
the whole time the match lasted.
Què van haver encert
What they got right
i què van haver
and what did they have
errades
mistakes
claríssimes, però això
very clear, but this
passa en tot.
It happens in everything.
A mi el partit
To me the match.
repeteixo,
I repeat,
el rato este que vaig viure
the moment I experienced
m'ha agradat molt com van jugar
I really liked how they played.
i vull destacar a Griezmann
And I want to highlight Griezmann.
que n'heu parlat. Griezmann
that you have talked about it. Griezmann
és un jugador que no va
He is a player who doesn't go.
tindre encaix al nostre equip
to have a place in our team
que després ho vam regalar a l'Atlètic i al Madrid
that later we gave it as a gift to Atlético and Madrid
i que a l'Atlètic i al Madrid li torna
And that it returns to Atlético and Madrid.
a resoldre els problemes
to solve the problems
que té a nivell d'atac.
that has at the attack level.
I també m'ha agradat molt Bellingham.
I also really liked Bellingham.
Jo trobo que és un jugador
I think he is a player.
excepcional, un totcampista, que
exceptional, a midfielder, that
igual que marca gols, potser juga al mig del camp
just as he scores goals, he might play in midfield
contra defensa. Francament
against defense. Frankly
juguen una altra cosa
they play something else
i per tant
and therefore
és raonable que quan
it is reasonable that when
nosaltres mos enfrontem a ells siguem molt superiors.
We confront them, we are much superior.
De cara al futur
Looking to the future
avui hi haurà els sorteig
Today there will be the draw.
però
but
si tenim sort i mos toca un equip petit
if we're lucky and we get a small team
patim patam
we suffer we matter
a la millor passarem a semifinals
We might as well make it to the semifinals.
però si mos toca un equip fort
but if we face a strong team
a l'Atlètic i al Madrid, real societat
to Atlético and Real Sociedad
doncs una altra vegada
well, another time
a patir.
to suffer.
I això no és raonable
And this is not reasonable.
en la quantitat de recursos
in the quantity of resources
que s'han posat sobre el camp
that have been placed on the field
i en la teòrica qualitat
and in the theoretical quality
dels jugadors que tenim.
of the players we have.
No és raonable. Llavors aquí
It is not reasonable. Then here.
hi ha un problema que és entrenador però és un problema
There is a problem that is a coach, but it is a problem.
també que és estructural.
also that it is structural.
En el sentit de moltes de les coses
In the sense of many of the things
que com a socis coneixen Cisco Lagosa
as partners they know Cisco Lagosa
i Manuel Martínez molt millor que jo
And Manuel Martínez much better than me.
però que hi ha una cosa que també
but there is one thing that also
no s'escapa a ningú, és que no tenim un ral.
It is not lost on anyone, it's that we don't have a penny.
I si no tenim un ral
And if we don't have a cent?
és difícil buscar solucions
It's difficult to find solutions.
en un món tan comercialitzat
in such a commercialized world
i tan capitalitzat
and so capitalized
com és el futbol.
How is football?
Víctor Roque, per què no juga?
Victor Roque, why isn't he playing?
Doncs no ho sé, perquè
Well, I don't know, because
com que en este club no hi ha ningú que digui les coses
since in this club there is no one to say things
clares, doncs no
clear, so no
ho sabem ningú.
we know no one.
I això de que si et diuen és molestes o
And this thing that if they tell you, it's annoying or
jo trobo que són excuses mal pagades.
I think they are poorly paid excuses.
En definitiva, que estem en una
In short, we are in a
situació caòtica que
chaotic situation that
ganes de que s'acabi
Looking forward to it ending.
la temporada
the season
i a veure com acabem
Let's see how it ends.
però pràcticament serà un autèntic
but it will practically be an authentic
poema arribar al final
poem to reach the end
amb el seguiment que fem
with the monitoring we do
els que ens agrada el futbol
those of us who like football
que som els colonistes.
that we are the colonists.
Manolo Cisco, alguna cosa més a afegir de la Copa del Rei?
Manolo Cisco, anything else to add about the Copa del Rey?
Bueno,
Well,
Miquel Castelló
Miquel Castelló
acaba de dir ara fa un moment, jo vaig
just said just a moment ago, I go
veure el partit del Barça i vaig veure
I watched the Barça match and I saw.
tot el partit, la pròrroga de l'Atlètic Madrid-Real Madrid
the entire match, the extra time of Atlético Madrid-Real Madrid
no la vaig veure, la pròrroga
I didn't see her, the extension.
no, però vaig veure tot el partit
No, but I watched the whole match.
i l'Atlètic Madrid
and Atlético Madrid
i el Real Madrid juguen una altra cosa
And Real Madrid plays another thing.
no té res a veure el joc que fa el Barça
it has nothing to do with the game that Barça plays
amb el joc que fa l'Atlètic Madrid
with the style of play that Atlético Madrid has
i el Real Madrid, res a veure
and Real Madrid, nothing to do with it
parlo dels partits que vaig veure ahir
I'm talking about the matches I saw yesterday.
però és que si mires algun partit
but if you watch any game
de caràcter internacional passa igual
of international character it happens the same
lo Barcelona es un futbolín
Barcelona is a foosball table.
no es futbol, futbolín es
It's not football, it's table football.
lo que fa el Barça no es futbolín
What Barça does is not foosball.
mentre que els altres equips
while the other teams
hi van en intensitat, tenen
they go in intensity, they have
jugadors decisius i decisoris
decisive and determining players
que el Barcelona no en té cap davant
that Barcelona has none in front
no en té cap
he doesn't have any
que tingui un detall
that has a detail
de dir hòstia
to say damn
quina classe i que ha fet
what class and what has he/she done
no en té cap
he doesn't have any
i estos últims dies
and these last few days
s'està anunciant o s'està dient
it is being announced or it is being said
que aquesta és la contradicció més gran del món
that this is the greatest contradiction in the world
que la plantilla de Barcelona és de les més
that the Barcelona squad is one of the most
cares del món
faces of the world
però bueno
but well
si resulta que tenim
if it turns out that we have
jugadors que
players that
cobren poc
they charge little
o que estan mal pagats
or that are poorly paid
o que no estan qualificats
or that are not qualified
a nivell internacional
at an international level
però és que senyors estem pagant
but the gentlemen, we are paying
a preu de llangustí
at the price of langoustine
la sardineta
the little sardine
m'enteneu?
Do you understand me?
i això no pot ser, això és inadmissible
and this cannot be, this is unacceptable.
en un món
in a world
en el qual els diners
in which the money
en l'àmbit del futbol són tan importants
In the field of football, they are as important.
que estem fent naltros
what are we doing
malgastant diners
squandering money
tirant diners perquè clar
pulling money because of course
si resulta que tenim uns jugadors molt ben pagats
if it turns out that we have very well-paid players
molt ben considerats
very well considered
i a l'hora de la veritat no fan el que han de fer
And when the time comes, they don't do what they have to do.
i compareixen altres jugadors
other players appear
que no estan tan ben pagats i tan ben considerats
that are not so well paid and so well regarded
i els passen per damunt
and they run over them
això és inadmissible
this is unacceptable
és inadmissible no sé
It is unacceptable I don't know.
jo per això
I for that reason.
com el problema és tan complex
as the problem is so complex
no li veig hores d'àrea de solució
I don't see him/her hours of sun solution.
l'únic que penso és
the only thing I think is
arribem a final de temporada
we reach the end of the season
i després a por todas
and then go all out
de dalt a baix
top to bottom
però és cert
but it is true
que en aquest club s'ha de fer un resert
that in this club a reset must be done
no pot ser
it cannot be
mentre continui aquesta dinàmica
as long as this dynamic continues
no en sortirem
we won't get out of it
i acabarem sent una societat anònima
and we will end up being a public limited company
Us queden 5 o 6 minuts
You have 5 or 6 minutes left.
amb el conte de tertúlia
with the story of the gathering
Mira, aniré ràpid
Look, I'll go quickly.
referent a l'ètic de Madrid-Real Madrid
regarding the Madrid-Real Madrid ethics
ja el vaig veure
I already saw him.
com ha dit bé Miquel Castelló
as Miquel Castelló has rightly said
és un futbol diferent
it's a different football
se juga a una altra cosa
it's played to something else
perquè pràcticament els gols del Madrid
because practically the goals of Madrid
tots són errades, la primera
they are all mistakes, the first one
és errada de Rüdiger,
it is Rüdiger's mistake,
la segona és errada de Lunín,
the second is Lunín's mistake,
la tercera és de Vinicius
the third is from Vinicius
i el quart també,
and the fourth as well,
és una jugada que al final marca Riquelme
It's a play that Riquelme ultimately concludes.
però forma part del futbol
but it's part of football
i això
and this
té divertit, ho sento molt
I'm sorry, I can’t help with that.
però tinc enveja sana de veure
but I have a healthy envy of seeing
els dos, el partit de Supercopa
the two, the Supercup match
i el partit d'ahir
and the match yesterday
de Copa del Rei. En quant a
of the Copa del Rey. As for
naltros, mira, jo crec que ells
us, look, I think that they
ja han afegit tot el que
they have already added everything that
a mi penso igual
I think the same.
que tots els meus companys
that all my colleagues
l'únic que voldria afegir
the only thing I would like to add
és si contra un equip que ha dit
it's against a team that has said
Miquel Castelló molt bé de tercera
Miquel Castelló very good at third.
divisió, perquè em sembla que és
division, because it seems to me that it is
això a mitja mos ho pot aclarir perquè jo ja he perdut
this halfway could clarify it for me because I have already lost
ara en això de primera RF
now in this about first RF
segona RF
second RF
ja em perdo, no sé si és de segona veu o de tercera
I'm already lost, I don't know if it's the second voice or the third.
però més bé, em sembla que seria
but rather, it seems to me that it would be
de tercera, no ho sé, ja mos ho aclarirà ell
Thirdly, I don't know, he will clarify it for us.
però que tu tinguis que
but that you have to
traure Ale Bandowski
remove Ale Bandowski
Gundogan
Gundogan
Pundé
Pundé
etcètera, etcètera, etcètera
etcetera, etcetera, etcetera
per jugar contra l'Unionistes de Salamanca
to play against Unionistas de Salamanca
ja t'ho diu tot
it says it all to you
ja no, jo crec
not anymore, I believe.
que aquí ja és el resum
that here is already the summary
de tot el que passa
of everything that happens
i torno a repetir
I say it again.
vull dir, és culpa esportivament
I mean, it's sports blame.
i hi ha un problema
And there is a problem.
d'entrenador, sí
of coach, yes
després tindrem tots els problemes que tenim
then we will have all the problems we have
que els tenim monetaris
that we have monetary ones
tenen, com he dit abans
they have, as I said before
de dubtosíssima qualitat per jugar al Barça
of dubious quality to play for Barça
que això en podem fer un altre programa
that we can make another program out of this
i parlar-ne de moltes coses d'estes
and talk about many things about these
i referent a Víctor Roque
And regarding Víctor Roque.
doncs home, si quan
well man, if when
un partit tens contra l'Unionistes de Salamanca
a match you have against the Unionistas de Salamanca
tampoc Víctor Roque
neither Víctor Roque
pot ser titular
may be entitled
doncs una de dues
so one of two
o hi ha un problema de l'entrenador
either there is a problem with the coach
o hi ha un problema en este jugador
There is a problem with this player.
que me l'han pintat com el nou Ronaldo
that they've painted me as the new Ronaldo
i potser és un Rochenbach
and maybe it is a Rochenbach
o un Giovani
or a Giovani
de los mejores tiempos
of the best times
per tant, tranquil·litat
therefore, tranquility
i tallar al final
and cut at the end
ara anirem
now we will go
anirem el diumenge que ve
we will go next Sunday
a les sis i mitja
at half past six
al Matadero, a l'Escorxador
to the Slaughterhouse
a Camp del Betis
at Camp del Betis
un altre suplici
another torment
i ja veurem, segurament que tornarem a fer el mateix
And we'll see, surely we'll do the same again.
i bueno
And good
com ben dit ells
as they said
a final de temporada
at the end of the season
com ben dit els meus companys
As my colleagues have rightly said
i diu
and says
tio, a final de temporada
dude, at the end of the season
farem les notes
we will take the notes
potser les notes ja seran
perhaps the grades will already be
molt deficientes
very deficient
que als meus temps era
that in my days was
molt deficiente
very deficient
té pinta, té pinta
It has a look, it has a look.
este cap de setmana a Lliga
this weekend in the League
Betis-Barça-Real Madrid-Talmeria-Girona-Sevilla
Betis-Barça-Real Madrid-Talmeria-Girona-Sevilla
i ens queden res 4 minuts
And we have only 4 minutes left.
però lògicament no podem deixar de parlar del futbol femení
but logically we cannot stop talking about women's football
a la Lliga el Barça és líder
In the league, Barça is the leader.
va passar també a quarts de final del Copa del Rey
he also reached the quarter-finals of the Copa del Rey.
guanyant el Bacete 0-6
winning Bacete 0-6
i a les semifinals de la Supercopa d'Espanya
and in the semifinals of the Supercopa de España
sí que va fer la feina contra el Madrid
Yes, he did the job against Madrid.
a diferència del masculí guanyava 4-0
unlike the men's team, they won 4-0
i demà jugarà la final contra el Levante
And tomorrow he will play the final against Levante.
Miquel Castelló i les noies
Miquel Castelló and the girls
sí que segueixen a la seva línia
they do continue in their line
Sí, sí, molt content del partit que van jugar
Yes, yes, very happy with the match they played.
una vegada més
once again
van passar per sobre del Madrid
they passed over Madrid
un Madrid que és un equip prefabricat
a Madrid that is a prefabricated team
comprat amb diners
bought with money
i que no pot competir de cap altra manera
and it cannot compete in any other way
en un Barça que porta molts anys
in a Barça that has been around for many years
per l'Ivante
for Ivante
però a mi això m'ha perdut moltíssim
but this has lost me a lot
la situació en què pot quedar l'any que ve
the situation in which one may find themselves next year
l'equip femení
the women's team
l'equip que ens ha donat més alegries
the team that has brought us the most joy
en les últimes temporades
in recent seasons
Mireu, en aquests moments
Look, at this moment
per a mi la jugadora que marca diferències
For me, the player who makes a difference.
de forma claríssima a tots els partits
very clearly to all the parties
és la Mariona Caldentei
She is Mariona Caldentei.
és una jugadora que acaba contracte
She is a player whose contract is ending.
a finals de temporada
at the end of the season
una jugadora que no t'he garantit
a player that I haven't guaranteed you
que se la pugui renovar
that it can be renewed
segons diuen pel tema de la massa salarial
according to what they say about the wage bill
tenim una altra jugadora que ha sigut
we have another player who has been
dues vegades la millor jugadora del món
twice the best player in the world
l'Àlexia Putelles
Alexia Putelles
que acaba contracte un mes de juny
that ends the contract in June
i li estan retallant les negociacions
and they are cutting back the negotiations
és un temps molt complicat que pugui renovar
It is a very complicated time that I can renew.
quan són jugadores l'una i l'altra
when they are players one and the other
que voldrien continuar
that they would like to continue
m'hi preocupa moltíssim
I am very worried about it.
que en la dius bauxa que hi ha en aquests moments
that in the bauxa you mention that there is at the moment
a la directiva del Barça
to the Barça board
al seu president els que l'acompanyen
to its president and those accompanying him
que l'any que ve no ens acabin desmuntant l'equip femení
that next year they don't end up dismantling the women's team
que ja seria com per apagar
that would be like to turn off
i deixar de ser culets
and stop being little butts
d'una vea per totes
once and for all
perquè, repetir això, són els que aguanten
because, repeating this, they are the ones who hold on
la institució en aquests moments
the institution at this moment
donant alegries
bringing joy
a tots aquells que ens agrada el futbol
to all those who love football
us demanaria que estiguéssim a la recta final
I would ask that we be in the final stretch.
dos o tres minuts
two or three minutes
Pere, com veus aquest Barça femení?
Pere, how do you see this women's Barça?
Bé, la veritat és que dona goig
Well, the truth is that it is a pleasure.
veure l'engranatge de l'equip
see the gear of the team
veure la intensitat
see the intensity
veure el que no veiem en el primer equip
to see what we do not see in the first team
i jo crec que el que estava dient ara Miquel
And I believe that what Miquel was saying now
és la gran preocupació
it is the great concern
un equip que està
a team that is
ja format
already shaped
un equip que està en ple rendiment
a team that is in full performance
i que ens donarà aquestes satisfaccions
and who will give us these satisfactions
que s'estigui
let it be
posant entredit la continuïtat de molts
putting the continuity of many into question
i que parlen totes també
and they all speak too
de veure quin és l'entrenador
to see who the coach is
quan això penso que haurien de resoldre-ho
when I think this they should solve it
prontament també
soon also
perquè és fonamental
because it is fundamental
aquesta peça
this piece
i per tant vull dir que bé
And therefore I want to say that it's fine.
una vegada més
once again
igual que quan veus el primer equip del Barça
just like when you see the first team of Barça
dius ai ai ai
you say oh oh oh
i que malament m'ho passaré
And how badly I will have a bad time.
tens ganes de veure l'equip femení
Are you eager to see the women's team?
perquè veritablement fa un futbol
because he truly plays football
dels que t'agrada
of those you like
i dels que ademés
and of those who also
se'ls veu la intensitat
You can see their intensity.
del joc
of the game
i bon engranatge que hi ha tal com deia
And a good gear that there is, as I said.
esperem que no es desmunti
we hope it doesn't come apart
i tot això de que a final de temporada
And all this about at the end of the season
i la temporada que ve
and next season
jo la manera que està aquí
I like the way it is here.
o hauria de canviar moltes coses
or I would have to change many things
o penso que això seguirà exactament igual
I think that this will remain exactly the same.
com està ara perquè
how are you now because
entre els problemes de diners i problemes de mala gestió
between money problems and bad management problems
i això no s'arregla
and this won't get fixed
si no hi ha un cop d'estat
if there is no coup d'état
i jo això tampoc no ho veig en els moments actuals
And I don't see this either in the current moments.
Manolo
Manolo
te'n rius?
Are you laughing at me?
és veritat
it's true
tots estem dient
we all are saying
acabem la temporada
we finish the season
la temporada que ve
the next season
és que no ho veu
it's that you don't see it
seguirà la porta
the door will follow
seguirà el mateix Sanchullos
it will be the same Sanchullos
seguiran els portuguesos
the Portuguese will follow
fer els fitxatges que els interessa
make the signings they are interested in
i seguirem
and we will follow
de la mateixa manera
in the same way
no hi ha volta de fulla
there's no turning back
moció de censura
motion of censure
perquè si no
because if not
acabaran espatllant l'equip femení
they will end up damaging the women's team
i això us ho asseguro jo
and I assure you of that
que ho acabaran desmuntant tot
that they will end up taking everything apart
si no hi ha una moció de censura
if there is no motion of no confidence
i no fotem fora en aquesta junta directiva
and we're not getting kicked out of this board of directors
això acabarà molt malament
this will end very badly
Déu-n'hi-do que hem portat a l'altre
Goodness, we've brought it to the other side.
i teniu un problema
And you have a problem.
en el camp nou
in the Camp Nou
aquest matí sentia que tenen problemes
This morning I felt that they have problems.
en l'escombro
in the rubble
que com ara es redueixen l'aigua
that currently the water is being reduced
en la pols
in the dust
ai mareta meua
Oh my dear mother.
sí, molt ràpidament
yes, very quickly
mira
look
vaig a posar una mica
I'm going to put on a little.
d'alegria
of joy
lo de Mariona Caldentell està a punt a punt
Mariona Caldentell's situation is ready to go.
tinc bona informació
I have good information.
de que en pocs dies
in a few days
podríem rebre bones notícies
we could receive good news
en quant
in how much
a una notícia així
to such news
que no m'agrada a mi
that I don't like
és que ara mos volem fer
it's just that now we want to do it
una altra vegada Bernardo Silva
Bernardo Silva again.
portar-lo aquest estiu aquí al Barça
bring him here to Barça this summer
Bernardo Silva per a mi
Bernardo Silva for me.
ja ha passat
it has already happened
és com Gundogan i és com Lewandowski
it is like Gundogan and it is like Lewandowski
això són exjugadors
these are former players
no tens de Bernardo Silva a passar-nos
You don't have Bernardo Silva to pass to us.
sí, sí
yes, yes
i estic d'acord amb Pere
And I agree with Pere.
molt bé, faríem molt més tertúlio
very well, we would have much more discussion
però hem de posar el punt final
but we have to put a final point
que hi hagi un plaer tindre-us
It is a pleasure to have you.
i fins a la propera tertúlia
Until the next discussion group.
un abraçada a tots, gràcies
A hug to everyone, thank you.
bona nit
good night
adeu, adeu
goodbye, goodbye
adeu
goodbye
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