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Benvinguts al tercer capítol

Welcome to the third chapter.

del programa El Dia D,

from the program El Dia D,

coproduït per Vilau i Bontinyent,

co-produced by Vilau and Bontinyent,

Produccions Benicadell i Televisió Digital

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Bontinyent. Avui parlem del

Bontinyent. Today we talk about the

Dia Internacional de la Meteorologia.

International Meteorology Day.

Tots els anys, el 23 de març,

Every year, on March 23,

l'Organització Meteorològica Mundial,

the World Meteorological Organization,

composta per 191 membres,

composed of 191 members,

i la Comunitat Meteorològica Internacional,

and the International Meteorological Community,

celebren el Dia de la Meteorologia Mundial,

they celebrate World Meteorology Day,

mitjançant un fàrum científic

through a scientific forum

i tècnic en el seu de Ginebra.

and technician in his Geneva.

Des de molt d'antic,

Since ancient times,

la humanitat ha tingut la necessitat de preveure

Humanity has had the need to foresee.

el temps. L'observació del cel

the weather. The observation of the sky

sempre ha estat un punt d'inici en moltes

it has always been a starting point in many

prediccions, mites i temors.

predictions, myths and fears.

També en el fet d'observar l'estat, com la

Also in the act of observing the state, like the

migració i el comportament de les aules.

migration and classroom behavior.

Les primeres referències a les

The first references to the

prediccions ja es paren fer a l'antiga

predictions are already being made in the old way

Babilònia, on es celebrava

Babylon, where it was celebrated

una cerimònia on es preveia el temps

a ceremony where the weather was forecasted

per cada un dels 12 mesos de l'any.

for each of the 12 months of the year.

I que a Espanya ara es coneix

And that in Spain is now known

com a les cabanyoles. Actualment,

like the cabins. Currently,

la meteorologia es considera que,

meteorology is considered that,

a pesar de les prediccions a curt

despite the short-term predictions

plaç, mitjançant el saber popular

place, through popular knowledge

i l'experiència, és totalment factible.

And the experience is totally feasible.

No passa així amb la predicció

It doesn't happen like that with the prediction.

a llarg plaç.

in the long term.

Avui, al nostre tercer podcast,

Today, in our third podcast,

tractem el Dia Mundial de la Meteorologia.

We address World Meteorology Day.

Per tractar d'aquest tema, comptem

To address this topic, we have

amb Jesús Martí, creador

with Jesús Martí, creator

de la pàgina Últimet i l'associació

from the page Últimet and the association

Amaemet. Bon dia, Jesús.

Good morning, Jesús.

Hola, bon dia.

Hello, good morning.

En primer lloc,

First of all,

m'agradaria que ens expliquessis perquè

I would like you to explain to us why.

tu realment no et dediques a això

you really don't do this for a living

professionalment, sinó que és

professionally, but it is

una afició. Com neix aquesta afició?

a hobby. How does this hobby come about?

Així és, bueno,

That's right, well,

ja fa molts, molts anys,

many, many years ago,

bueno, molts anys, podrien ser

well, many years, they could be

10 o 12,

10 or 12,

jo sempre em sentia

I always felt.

atragut un poc

pulled a little

pel tema de l'horatge,

about the topic of the weather,

el fred, la neu, la pluja,

the cold, the snow, the rain,

sobretot quan plou molt fort, els

especially when it rains very heavily, the

episodis de meteorològics

meteorological episodes

que són més intensos, és que

that are more intense, it's that

t'acredit més l'atenció, és que estàs mirant

You're paying more attention, it's that you're looking.

per la finestra i sempre t'atrapen

through the window and they always catch you

un poc, no?, a l'hora de mirar-los

a little, right?, when it comes to looking at them

i contemplar-los. Jo, de fet, en algun

and contemplate them. I, in fact, at some

examen he intentat

exam I have tried

acabar abans per tal de veure un poc

finish earlier in order to see a little

com estava plouent fora de València, no?

As it was raining outside Valencia, right?

O sea, a vegades he fet un poc

I mean, sometimes I've done a little.

algunes coses que no serien molt

some things that wouldn't be very

normals, però bueno, en este món, si t'agrada,

normal, but well, in this world, if you like it,

suposa que l'immediatesa que és

supposes that it is the immediacy

la meteorologia en si,

the meteorology itself,

doncs és una cosa molt atrayent.

well, it is a very appealing thing.

I a partir d'ahí crees

And from there you create.

un timet?

a coward?

Et dediques a fer estudis?

Are you studying?

Sí, bueno, sí. En 2005

Yes, well, yes. In 2005.

vas decidir...

you decided...

En 2004 em vas comprar

In 2004 you bought me.

la meva primera estació meteorològica

my first weather station

entre cometes

in quotation marks

semiprofessional,

semiprofessional,

la vas adquirir estalviant uns

you acquired it by saving some

nadals, treballant per ahir,

Christmas, working for yesterday,

i realment, doncs,

and really, then,

a partir d'ahir tot ja es va

From yesterday, everything is already going.

massificar a nivell de

massify at the level of

més material, més contingut,

more material, more content,

i més idees que volia posar

and more ideas that I wanted to present

un poc en...

a little in...

en comú amb més gent, i per què

in common with more people, and why

no compartir, la possibilitat de compartir

not share, the possibility of sharing

el que tu mateix estàs

what you yourself are

descobrint o el que t'agrada, doncs jo crec

discovering or what you like, because I believe

que és el que agrada a tot el món, no?

What is it that everyone likes, right?

Difondre allò que t'agrada.

Spread what you love.

I si d'amunt, doncs, li pots

And if from above, then you can give it to him/her.

donar més publicitat i

give more publicity and

d'alguna manera estàs...

in some way you are...

no sé, realment

I don't know, really.

estàs donant un servei

you are providing a service

a la teua comunitat més propera, no?

to your closest community, right?

I l'any 2005

And in the year 2005

doncs vas decidir, vas

so you decided, you go

crear la pàgina web d'Untimet.

create the website of Untimet.

En aquell moment es deia

At that moment it was said

Untimeteo, era molt curiós perquè

Untimeteo, it was very curious because

però el nom realment no

but the name really doesn't

no quadrava bé.

it didn't fit well.

I també un amic meu fa un temps em va

And also a friend of mine some time ago told me

comentar, bueno, jo en els fòrums de

to comment, well, I in the forums of

meteorologia, on els aficionats

meteorology, where enthusiasts

i tot això participem i

and we all participate in this and

més activament,

more actively,

jo em dic Timonet Gelat.

My name is Timonet Gelat.

Bueno, doncs la gràcia de tot això

Well, then the point of all this

és que si tu vas

it's that if you go

mesclar cada una de les

mix each of the

lletres de la paraula Timonet,

letters of the word Timonet,

extraus també Untimet.

You also extract Untimet.

I és una cosa que

And it's something that

té com... és una senyal,

it has like... it's a sign,

no? Pareix que sigui una senyal això.

No? It seems like a sign, this.

I bueno, la veritat

And well, the truth is

és que Untimet va començar en 2005

Untimet started in 2005.

entre cometes i bueno, a partir de la meva

"between quotes and well, based on my"

estació, doncs, vas decidir publicar

station, so you decided to publish

unes dades. Em vaig unir

some data. I joined

en seguida a una xarxa també d'aficionats

immediately to a network of enthusiasts as well

que s'anomenava

that was called

Meteoclimàtic, que encara existeix, per supòs.

Meteoclimatic, which still exists, of course.

I...

I...

Meteoclimàtic era una xarxa que

Meteoclimatic was a network that

a través d'una plataforma web

through a web platform

t'ajudava, entre cometes, a publicar les teves

"helped you, in quotes, to publish yours"

dades a internet sense

data on the internet without

tindre coneixements de programació

to have programming knowledge

a nivell d'informàtica per a programar

at the level of computer science for programming

una pàgina web ni res d'això.

a website or anything like that.

I actualment, doncs,

And currently, therefore,

continua ahí. Després va vindre

continue there. Then he/she/it came.

l'associació

the association

i actualment ja no donem

and currently we no longer give

per a més. Per a que siguin

for more. For them to be

afició ja... és que...

hobby, well... it's just that...

no pot ser més. Tindria ja que ser

It can't be more. It should already be.

una feina que ara mateix ja no pot ser.

a job that right now cannot be.

Conta'ns el teu mètode.

Tell us your method.

Conta'ns com funciona

Tell us how it works.

això d'intentar

this trying

preveure el temps mitjançant

forecasting the weather through

l'estudi de

the study of

lo que ha passat i del que passarà.

what has happened and what will happen.

Mira, moltes vegades la

Look, many times the

meteorologia, la gent,

meteorology, the people,

la dada que més li interessa

the data that interests him/her most

és, evidentment, les previsions.

It is, of course, the predictions.

Les previsions de l'horatge que farà.

The weather forecast for the upcoming weather.

I precisament a la gent que és més aficionada

And precisely to the people who are more enthusiastic.

a la meteorologia està clar que ens

In meteorology, it is clear that we

agraden les previsions i

they like the forecasts and

vore un poc com deriva un tipus

to see a bit how a type drifts

d'horatge i com afecta

of time and how it affects

la teua part del territori més directa.

your most direct part of the territory.

Però realment, els

But really, the

amics de la meteorologia, doncs,

friends of meteorology, then,

si t'agrada la meteorologia és que

if you like meteorology it means that

t'agrada... poden agrair-te moltes coses.

you like... they can thank you for many things.

Des de la fotografia

From the photograph

de tots els meteors que

of all the meteors that

s'obsedeixen al cel, com podria ser

they are obsessed with the sky, how could it be

un ar de Sant Martí,

a rainbow,

un cumulonimbus, que és el

a cumulonimbus, which is the

núvol més gran aquest de

larger cloud this of

Tornada, de Tempesta,

Return, from Tempest,

i en definitiva

and ultimately

podria agradar-te també el senderisme,

you might also like hiking,

podria agradar-te també

it might also please you

simplement

simply

gaudir d'una bona passejada,

enjoy a nice walk,

i en definitiva

and ultimately

també disfrutes de

also enjoy

per exemple, per què no, passejar

for example, why not, take a walk

mentre està ploguent. Si tu tens un bon paraigües

while it is raining. If you have a good umbrella

i tu vas ben equipat,

and you are well equipped,

o per què no, és a dir, tu pots anar

or why not, I mean, you can go

pel carrer i fent

in the street and doing

molt de fred i estàs disfrutant d'aquest horatge.

very cold and you are enjoying this weather.

El que passa és que has d'anar ben equipat.

What's happening is that you have to be well-equipped.

És igual que la gent que fa

It's the same as the people who do.

travessies en la neu, per exemple.

traverses in the snow, for example.

Aleshores, la meteorologia

So, the meteorology

és qüestió de previsions,

it's a matter of forecasts,

però és també, sobretot, disfrutar del temps actual.

but it is also, above all, to enjoy the present time.

De fet, la paraula meteorologia

In fact, the word meteorology

parla realment de l'horatge

does it really talk about the weather

actual, i quan ja parlaríem

now, and when we would already be talking

de climatologia

of climatology

parlaríem de sèries temporals

we would talk about time series

meteorològiques, realment.

meteorological, really.

I això és un error molt comú

And this is a very common mistake.

per ser en temes de comunicació,

to be in communication matters,

confondre la climatologia amb la meteorologia.

confusing climatology with meteorology.

Aparentment,

Apparently,

perquè la paraula climatologia

because the word climatology

queda estèticament millor en un text.

it looks aesthetically better in a text.

Però, en definitiva,

But, ultimately,

realment, les previsions,

really, the forecasts,

els aficionats

the fans

a la meteorologia seguim

to the weather we continue

uns models de previsió.

some forecasting models.

Uns models de previsió,

Some forecasting models,

perquè s'entenguem, és com si féssim una actual

So that we understand each other, it's as if we were doing a current.

fotografia al satèl·lit meteosat,

satellite photograph from Meteosat,

féssim una captura de pantalla al satèl·lit,

let's take a screenshot of the satellite,

i a través de

and through

molts diferents algoritmes,

many different algorithms,

uns ordenadors, uns supers ordenadors,

some computers, some supercomputers,

el que fan és

what they do is

calcular matemàticament

mathematically calculate

les probabilitats de com pot

the probabilities of how it can

menejar-se o no un anticicló i una

"To move or not to move an anticyclone and a"

borrasca, partint de la

storm, starting from the

imatge actual de satèl·lit.

current satellite image.

Evidentment, n'hi ha molts models,

Obviously, there are many models.

perquè n'hi ha molts diferents

because there are many different ones

algoritmes de càlcul,

calculation algorithms,

i bàsicament nosaltres el que fem és consultar-los.

And basically what we do is consult them.

Consultem diversos,

We consult several,

extraguem unes conclusions,

we draw some conclusions,

i a partir d'ahir

and starting from yesterday

més o menys ens fem una idea de

more or less we get an idea of

l'horatge que té que fer els pròxims

the weather that is going to happen next

des del

from the

dia de demà fins a

tomorrow until

quatre o cinc dies. Realment,

four or five days. Really,

a una setmana vista,

a week away,

l'horatge és molt complicat de predir.

The weather is very complicated to predict.

No té pràcticament

It has practically none.

cap validesa. De fet,

no validity. In fact,

per estar en el segle XXI,

to be in the 21st century,

la predicció meteorològica

the weather forecast

jo diria que no

I would say no.

s'ha avançat molt, realment.

A lot has been achieved, really.

És molt complicat.

It's very complicated.

La meteorologia és

Meteorology is

l'essència del caos, en definitiva.

the essence of chaos, ultimately.

No sé si coneixes

I don't know if you know.

la teoria que diuen que si

the theory that they say that it is true

meneges una fulla

you handle a leaf

o no sé com està això...

I don't know how this is...

Si meneges una fulla al Japó, als Estats Units

If you move a leaf in Japan, in the United States

es crearà una tempesta.

A storm will be created.

Exacte.

Exactly.

És molt caòtic.

It's very chaotic.

Realment és molt complicat

It is really very complicated.

arribar a un nivell de precisió

reach a level of precision

a l'hora de predir

at the time of predicting

la meteorologia, sobretot al Mediterrani.

the meteorology, especially in the Mediterranean.

El Mediterrani és una de les zones

The Mediterranean is one of the areas

del món més complicades

of the most complicated world

perquè el Mediterrani en si

because the Mediterranean itself

és un mar que, entre cometes,

it's a sea that, in quotes,

sempre està prou calent,

it is always warm enough,

sobretot a l'estiu i a la tardor.

especially in summer and autumn.

A la tardor el mar ha replegat

In autumn, the sea has gathered.

tota la calor de l'estiu

all the heat of summer

i, curiosament,

and, interestingly,

a primers de primavera

in early spring

és quan el mar està més gelat.

it's when the sea is colder.

El que tindrà un mar calent

The one who will have a warm sea.

sí que dona

yes it does

major improbabilitat

greater improbability

a l'hora de raonar una predicció.

when reasoning a prediction.

Per exemple, predir el temps

For example, predicting the weather.

al Mediterrani és molt senzill.

In the Mediterranean it is very simple.

Tu a cinc dies vista ja tens clar

You already have it clear five days in advance.

segurament si va a plorar o no

probably whether he/she cried or not

perquè la distància, calcular la velocitat

because the distance, calculate the speed

d'un front com va avançant per tot l'oceà

of a front as it advances across the ocean

és que no t'enganyes.

It's just that you're not fooling yourself.

En canvi, el Mediterrani

On the contrary, the Mediterranean

altera pràcticament

practically alters

l'ordre

the order

i la velocitat

and the speed

de les borrasques

of the storms

i pràcticament els anticiclons.

and practically the anticyclones.

És una peculiaritat que té el Mediterrani.

It is a peculiarity of the Mediterranean.

Jo crec que, precisament,

I believe that, precisely,

l'ordre geogènic en Espanya

the geogenic order in Spain

és en tota la franja mediterrània.

It is throughout the Mediterranean region.

Catalunya, Comunitat Valenciana,

Catalonia, Valencia Community,

Baixem, la zona d'Andalusia...

Let's go down, the area of Andalusia...

En canvi, com més a l'interior

On the other hand, the further in you go.

de potser la península

of perhaps the peninsula

realment no és tan important

it's really not that important

o no es mostra tant d'interès

or there is not so much interest shown

per aquest tema. És molt curiós.

for this topic. It is very interesting.

Bé, hem parlat que

Well, we have talked about that

fa uns anys vas adquirir

a few years ago you acquired

la teua pròpia estació semiprofessional

your own semiprofessional station

de meteorologia

of meteorology

i ens agradaria saber

and we would like to know

quin és un poc l'aspecte

what is a little the appearance

tècnic. En quines dades

technical. In what data

el bases? Com funciona

The bases? How does it work?

realment

really

esta predicció o

this prediction or

esta forma de preveure

this way of foreseeing

el temps?

the weather?

Realment tu participes d'unes dades

You really participate in some data.

actuals que et dona la teua estació.

current ones that your station gives you.

Més o menys

More or less

no són molt complicades.

they are not very complicated.

Imagina que tu no tens una estació però

Imagine that you do not have a station but

tot el món té un termòmetre

Everyone has a thermometer.

a la porta de la finestra o al balcó.

at the door of the window or on the balcony.

Però en definitiva

But ultimately

una estació meteorològica en aquest cas

a weather station in this case

semiprofessional, que actualment

semiprofessional, which currently

ja les pots trobar per poc més de 200 euros

You can find them for just over 200 euros.

a baix amunt, ha sigut un mercat

up and down, it has been a market

que també he de dir que afortunadament

that I also have to say that fortunately

com s'ha

how it has

abaratat a poc a poc la tecnologia

cheapening technology little by little

en els últims 7,

in the last 7,

8 o 9 anys

8 or 9 years

adquirir una estació semiprofessional

acquire a semiprofessional station

no dic professional perquè professional

I don't say professional because professional.

entenc que ja és per organismes

I understand that it is already for organisms.

estatals on

state-owned

es requereix un cert grau de precisió.

A certain degree of precision is required.

Però

But

adquirir una estació semiprofessional avui en dia

acquire a semiprofessional station nowadays

és econòmic perquè els materials s'han

it's economical because the materials have been

abaratat, les marques han

lowered prices, the brands have

projectat estacions meteorològiques

projected weather stations

com si fos qualsevol altre producte

as if it were any other product

a major escala i

on a larger scale and

s'aconsegueixen millors preus de venda.

better selling prices are achieved.

Al principi recordo que em va costar

At first, I remember that it was hard for me.

entre 500 i 600 euros

between 500 and 600 euros

ja no recorde bé

I no longer remember well.

i cap al final

and towards the end

del 2007 vaig adquirir una altra

I acquired another one in 2007.

estació de major qualitat en aquest cas

higher quality station in this case

però en canvi per menor preu.

but instead for a lower price.

És un mercat que també ha anat variant

It is a market that has also been changing.

però ha ajudat molt

but it has helped a lot

a la difusió i

to the dissemination and

que la gent tinga en sa casa

that people have in their home

una estació meteorològica,

a weather station,

una pròpia i això de

a own and this of

tindre dades de ta casa sempre és

having data from your home is always

una cosa que fa boig

one thing that drives you crazy

que puguis compartir-les o difondre-les

that you can share or spread them

i si les vas anotant evidentment

And if you write them down, obviously.

pots crear la teva pròpia base climàtica.

you can create your own climate base.

Sempre és molt interessant

It's always very interesting.

això de quan vam anar al col·legi

this is from when we went to school

i en l'apartat de Climatologia i Geografia

and in the section of Climatology and Geography

ens ensenyaven com funcionava

they taught us how it worked

un climograma, com funcionava un mapa

a climogram, how a map worked

de borrasques però en definitiva

of storms but ultimately

realment tu pots crear-ho.

you can really create it.

I jo crec que és una cosa prou curiosa.

And I think it's quite an interesting thing.

Una estació meteorològica bàsica

A basic weather station

per a que s'entenguem

so that we understand each other

el que dóna són dades de pluja,

what it gives are rainfall data,

dades de vent, tant direcció

wind data, both direction

com velocitat, temperatura,

such as speed, temperature,

humitat relativa

relative humidity

i pressió atmosfèrica.

and atmospheric pressure.

No en dicia res més.

He didn't say anything else.

Després sí que n'hi ha accessoris que pots unir

Afterward, there are indeed accessories that you can attach.

a les estacions normalment

at the stations normally

i hi pots afegir un sensor de ratlles ultraviolets

and you can add an ultraviolet strip sensor.

i un sensor de redacció solar

and a solar writing sensor

que t'informa un poc de la quantitat

that informs you a little about the quantity

d'energia que està transmetent el Sol.

of energy that is being transmitted by the Sun.

I bé, ja n'hi hauria

And well, that would be enough.

més variables però ja a nivell

more variables but already at level

de contaminació

of contamination

detectem l'aire

we detect the air

i altres històries. Però bé,

and other stories. But well,

ja no entrem, ja no és meteorologia

we're not getting in anymore, it's no longer meteorology

en si.

In itself.

I a partir d'aquestes dades

And based on this data

ens has explicat que es pot fer una predicció

you have told us that a prediction can be made

pràcticament exacta

practically identical

o

or

molt poc de variable en els pròxims

very little variable in the next ones

quatre o cinc dies.

four or five days.

En els recursos

In the resources

que tenim avui en dia,

what we have today,

realment una previsió vàlida per al Mediterrani

really a valid forecast for the Mediterranean

no tindria major

it wouldn't have a bigger one

validesa en més de quatre o cinc dies.

validity in more than four or five days.

N'hi ha tendències. Les tendències

There are trends. The trends.

tu les pots seguir. Una tendència seria

you can follow them. One trend would be

veure uns quants mapes

see a few maps

de cara a partir d'una

facing from one

sis, quatre, cinc

six, four, five

dies. A partir de cinc dies,

days. Starting from five days,

tot el que tu veus són tendències.

All that you see are trends.

Una tendència significaria

A trend would mean

saber si pràcticament una

to know if practically one

borrasca pot baixar a la teua latitud,

a storm may descend to your latitude,

però tu no saps si la borrasca definitivament

but you don’t know if the storm is definitive

estarà al centre de la borrasca.

it will be at the center of the storm.

Depèn d'on estiguis, si estàs

It depends on where you are, if you are.

200 o 300 quilòmetres més a l'interior

200 or 300 kilometers further inland.

o més dins de la mar, realment

or deeper within the sea, really

la situació i l'impacte

the situation and the impact

entre cometes del

in quotes of

major nombre de precipitacions

greater amount of precipitation

no saps on va a caure.

you don't know where it will fall.

Plourà? No ho saps.

Will it rain? You don’t know.

El que sí que saps,

What you do know,

és que n'hi ha risc de pluja.

There is a risk of rain.

És una tendència. És una dada molt

It is a trend. It is a very significant figure.

pobra, realment, però és que avui en dia

poor, really, but nowadays

no n'hi ha més mitjans per aconseguir

there are no more means to achieve

realment

really

un pronòstic

a forecast

molt clar.

very clear.

Això és un poc la idea. El que passa és que tu

This is a bit the idea. What happens is that you...

partixes de les teues dades a nivell d'estació,

you share your data at the station level,

inclús les pròpies estacions meteorològiques

including the weather stations themselves

i professionals que aniran a la venda

the professionals who will be for sale

et fan, en funció de la tendència

they make you, depending on the trend

de la pressió atmosfèrica,

of atmospheric pressure,

una xacoteta previsió.

a slight forecast.

Perquè, per a que

Because, for what purpose

la gent ho sàpiga un poc,

let people know a little,

és molt simplista el que vaig a dir, però

it's very simplistic what I am about to say, but

en definitiva sí que funciona. És a dir,

In short, it does work. That is to say,

quan la pressió atmosfèrica

when the atmospheric pressure

de sobte comença a baixar, a baixar, a baixar,

suddenly it starts to go down, down, down,

és perquè s'està acostant, evidentment,

It's because it is getting closer, obviously.

una borrasca. Aquesta borrasca el que donarà

a storm. This storm will bring

serà un temps enroïnt,

it will be a roaring time,

on farà més vent, on

where it will be windier, where

donarà pluges, etcètera.

it will bring rain, etcetera.

En canvi, si la pressió atmosfèrica està pujant,

On the other hand, if the atmospheric pressure is rising,

s'acostem a un anticiclo

we are approaching an anticyclone

i l'anticiclo es portarà a bon horatge.

And the anticyclone will bring good weather.

Horatge més estable. Bé, cap.

More stable weather. Well, none.

Campeant un poquet del tema,

Just touching on the subject,

ens has parlat dels aspectes tècnics,

you have talked to us about the technical aspects,

com fas tu,

how do you do it,

com es fa actualment

how it is done currently

aquesta predicció,

this prediction,

un poc a nivell tècnic,

a little bit on a technical level,

però què penses de

but what do you think of

lo que són les cabanyoles

what the cabins are

i tota la part, diguem, antiga

and the whole part, let's say, old

d'aquesta predicció, de l'observació,

of this prediction, of the observation,

en aquest cas?

in this case?

Bé, és un tema

Well, it's a topic.

que reconec que és molt curiós.

I admit that it is very curious.

El que passa és que, clar,

What happens is that, of course,

abans, quan pràcticament no existia

before, when it practically didn't exist

tecnologia en este camp,

technology in this field,

la gent feia unes prediccions

people were making predictions

simplement perquè

simply because

estava en l'horta i

I was in the garden and

estava patint pels seus cultius

he was suffering for his crops

i, en definitiva, lo que feia era mirar el cel.

And, ultimately, what I was doing was looking at the sky.

En funció de com

Depending on how

cantaven, inclús, o com es

they sang, even, or how it is

menjaven totes les aus,

they ate all the birds,

tu podies fer-te una idea de

you could get an idea of

si demà plorar o no.

if tomorrow I will cry or not.

Era un poc...

It was a bit...

Realment era una norma no escrita,

It really was an unwritten rule,

no tenies cap

you didn't have any

certesa

certainty

científica a l'hora de fer

scientific when doing

aquest tipus de prediccions, però és l'observació

this type of predictions, but it is the observation

i l'experiència

and the experience

i el contrast

and the contrast

d'una situació, no?,

from a situation, right?

de prova i error,

of trial and error,

de contemplar

of contemplating

un tipus d'oratge

a type of weather

i saber un poc el que farà demà.

And to know a little of what he will do tomorrow.

Les cabanyoles

The cabins

és extrapolable a tot això,

it is extrapolable to all this,

però, evidentment, a molt, molt, molt

but, obviously, a lot, a lot, a lot

llarg plaç. Estem parlant de que

long term. We are talking about that

durant el mes d'agost

during the month of August

fas unes mesures,

you take some measurements,

observes l'oratge

observe the weather

que farà, que està fent

what will he/she do, what is he/she doing

aquests dies d'agost, i, en definitiva, estàs

these days of August, and, ultimately, you are

prenent tot l'oratge de l'any que ve.

taking all the weather of next year.

És arriscat, però, per lo menos,

It's risky, but at least,

a mi em pareix que és una cosa molt loable,

it seems to me that it is a very commendable thing,

molt curiosa,

very curious,

i, bueno, les comprovacions

and, well, the verifications

de fiabilitat,

of reliability,

bueno, cada un

well, each one

les mira com les mira. A mi, per lo menos,

she looks at them as she looks at them. At least for me,

m'agrada més la part més

I like the best part more.

activa de la metodologia, no?, la que és

active methodology, right?, the one that is

més real, la que

more real, the one that

pots contrastar i la que pots

you can contrast and the one you can

apuntar, no sé.

To point, I don’t know.

Tornant a la Baida

Returning to the Baida

al Baida, es donen condicions

In the Baida, conditions are given.

diferents a altres regions

different from other regions

que poden comportar una

that can lead to a

metodologia diferent?

different methodology?

Jo crec que, més que diferent,

I believe that, more than different,

la metodologia,

the methodology,

el mar Mediterrani

the Mediterranean Sea

i l'aerografia

and the airbrushing

són les

it's

coses que, si les juntes,

things that, if you put them together,

poden fer meravelles, entre cometes.

they can do wonders, in quotes.

L'aerografia és molt important.

Airbrushing is very important.

A la Baida al Baida,

To the Baida at the Baida,

realment, estem separats

really, we are separated

de la comarca, per exemple, del

from the region, for example, of the

Comtat, amb la gran

County, with the great

serralada del Benicadell, no?

Benicadell mountain range, right?

El Benicadell arriba als

The Benicadell reaches the

1.104 metres d'altura

1,104 meters in height

i te dones compte

And you realize.

que és una pròpia barrera. De fet,

that is a barrier of its own. In fact,

el més conegut,

the most well-known,

una cosa molt bàsica en metodologia és

a very basic thing in methodology is

conèixer l'efecte Fohen. L'efecte Fohen

to know the Fohen effect. The Fohen effect

és, bàsicament, quan un front està

it is, basically, when a front is

avançant i es topa amb una serralada

advancing and comes across a mountain range

o una cordillera, com podrien ser els Pirineus,

or a mountain range, such as the Pyrenees,

tu saps que

you know that

si la borrasca en si, o el front,

if the storm itself, or the front,

va avançant del nord cap a sud,

is advancing from north to south,

la franja nord

the northern strip

evidentment tindrà

obviously will have

moltes precipitacions, tindrà moltes

many precipitations, it will have many

nubolades i

cloudy and

pot ser un temps

it can be a time

prou perillós,

too dangerous,

però què passa? Que la franja sud,

but what happens? That the southern strip,

el front ja ha passat,

the front has already passed,

està sec i a mesura

it is dry and to measure

que ja baixa de nou d'altitud

that is descending again in altitude

l'aire

the air

comença a calfar-se. El que era

it starts to heat up. What was

gelat s'ha quedat tot a la part

The ice cream has melted completely.

nord de la serralada, en canvi la part sud

north of the mountain range, on the other hand the south part

ja comença a ser més càlid,

it is already starting to be warmer,

sec i evidentment l'oratge és molt

dry and obviously the weather is very

més tranquil. L'efecte Fohen

more peaceful. The Fohen effect

el podem traslladar, entre cometes,

we can transfer it, in quotes,

a una xocoteta escala, i aquesta xocoteta escala

to a little scale, and this little scale

podrien ser les nostres serres

they could be our mountains

que nosaltres col·loquem, podrien ser

that we place, could be

el Benicadell, la Serra de Mariola,

the Benicadell, the Serra de Mariola,

la Serra de la Grossa en part,

the Serra de la Grossa in part,

el massís del Mont d'Uber,

the Mont d'Uber massif,

per aproximació

by approximation

al que és la

to what is the

Vall d'Albaida, ens pot

Vall d'Albaida, it can.

donar unes dades de pluja

give some rainfall data

majors en un punt concret de la Vall d'Albaida

seniors at a specific point in the Vall d'Albaida

o menors. De totes maneres

or minors. In any case

el més

the month

interessant, per exemple,

interesting, for example,

és que l'orografia en si

it's that the orography itself

depèn de com estiguin orientades

it depends on how they are oriented

les muntanyes, depèn

the mountains, it depends

de com vinguin en direcció

of how they came in direction

un front, una tempesta,

a front, a storm,

poden donar

they can give

dades de pluja

rain data

increïbles. Nosaltres

incredible. We

amb l'Associació Valenciana d'Aficionats a la Metrologia

with the Valencian Association of Metrology Enthusiasts

que s'anomena Abamet

that is called Abamet

vam instal·lar

we installed

l'any passat una de les activitats

last year one of the activities

principals que fem

main things we do

a nivell d'associació

at the association level

és instal·lar

it's to install

estacions meteorològiques en llocs

weather stations in places

realment molt interessants a nivell

really very interesting at level

d'interès,

of interest,

d'interès, inclús científic.

of interest, including scientific.

L'any passat vam instal·lar

Last year we installed

una estació meteorològica a la comarca

a weather station in the region

de la Marina Alta, en la

of the Marina Alta, in the

Vall d'Evo, que és un poble que tindrà

Vall d'Evo, which is a village that will have

200 o 300 habitants

200 or 300 inhabitants

i està a l'interior de Pego.

It is in the interior of Pego.

Aquesta estació meteorològica

This weather station

per a que s'entenguem està

so that we understand it is

en una vall molt tancada,

in a very enclosed valley,

molt xocoteta,

very small,

però que realment s'estanquen

but they really stagnate

allà els núvols quan comença a ploure

there the clouds when it starts to rain

i directament es van a replegar

and they went directly to gather.

en 110 més de 500 litres.

in 110 more than 500 liters.

Per a que us fem una idea

Just to give you an idea.

és quasi el 80 o el 90%

It's almost 80 or 90%.

del que sol ploure de mitja on

of what usually rains from half a wave

tinguem en un any,

let's have in a year,

en 5 dies.

in 5 days.

Aleshores, si nosaltres no

So, if we don't

haguéssim instal·lat aquesta estació, aquesta dada

we would have installed this station, this data

seria absolutament desconeguda.

it would be absolutely unknown.

Nosaltres el que fem en l'associació

What we do in the association.

ja seria

it would already be

trobar

to find

llocs molt interessants,

very interesting places,

tant per pluja, tant per temperatures,

as much for rain, as for temperatures,

també inclús

also even

n'hi ha col·lectors

there are collectors

de

of

de boires.

of fog.

N'hi ha col·lectors

There are collectors.

de boires.

of mists.

N'hi ha sensors que tracten

There are sensors that deal with

de comprovar

to verify

quina seria la precipitació equivalent

what would be the equivalent precipitation

en un punt determinat sols

at a specific point only

per la quantitat de boires

for the amount of fogs

que n'hi ha en eixos llocs.

that there is in those places.

Per exemple, la Serra de Mariola

For example, the Serra de Mariola

dalt a 1.250 metres

at 1,250 meters

n'hi ha una estació

there is a station

que ja està morint, per cert,

which is already dying, by the way,

el CEAM, que és el Centre

the CEAM, which is the Centre

del Mediterrani.

from the Mediterranean.

N'hi ha uns col·lectors de boires molt interessants

There are some very interesting fog collectors.

que donen

that they give

precipitacions que no haguéssim imaginat

precipitations that we would not have imagined

sols perquè n'hi ha boires.

only because there are fogs.

La boira evidentment s'empapa en la vegetació

The fog obviously soaks into the vegetation.

i evidentment

and obviously

permet la vida de

allows the life of

flora i fauna.

flora and fauna.

Cada estació té el seu.

Each season has its own.

Bé, ja

Well, already

per intentar acabar,

to try to finish,

quina influència

what influence

té tot això que està

it has all this that is

passant de moda ara,

out of fashion now,

l'efecte hivernacle?

the greenhouse effect?

Quina és la influència dels gasos

What is the influence of gases?

d'aquest efecte

of this effect

en la climatologia?

in climatology?

N'hi ha moltíssima informació

There is a lot of information.

al respecte del canvi climàtic

regarding climate change

i moltíssima. De fet, jo crec que n'hi ha

and a lot. In fact, I think there are

massa informació

too much information

i la majoria de la gent

and most people

acaba fins i tot marejada.

it even ends in a swell.

De fet, n'hi ha documentals com

In fact, there are documentaries like

no sé, este que va fer el de

I don't know, this one who did the...

Al Gore, que no me'n recorde com es diga,

Al Gore, I don't remember how to say it.

però que busquen

but what are they looking for

que aportar

what to contribute

tanta informació al respecte

so much information about it

que potser el ciutadà enmig

that perhaps the citizen in the middle

el tinguem un poc marejat.

we have him a bit dizzy.

N'hi ha calfament a nivell global

There is global warming.

en la Terra? Sí, és evident.

On Earth? Yes, it is obvious.

Això està mesurat, més que

This is measured, more than.

mesurat,

measured,

l'Antàrtida com

Antarctica how

l'Àrtic, cada vegada

the Arctic, increasingly

la quantitat de gel que n'hi ha en superfícies

the amount of ice that is on surfaces

menor, any darrere d'any, estan fent-se

younger, year after year, they are becoming

ja medicions des de fa moltíssims anys,

I have been taking medications for a very long time.

i està clar que n'hi ha menys gel.

And it is clear that there is less ice.

Si n'hi ha menys gel evidentment és per un

If there is less ice, it is obviously because of one.

moment constant, poquet a poquet,

constant moment, little by little,

i potser estan canviant

and maybe they are changing

de cicle.

of cycle.

És degut a l'activitat humana?

Is it due to human activity?

N'hi ha estudis

There are studies.

que diuen que sí, i n'hi ha estudis

they say yes, and there are studies

que diuen que no. Sí que és

they say no. Yes, it is

de veres que la majoria parlen que

truly, the majority say that

evidentment és provocat.

obviously it is provoked.

N'hi ha una correlació a l'hora de

There is a correlation when it comes to

comprovar gasos

check gases

d'efecte hivernacle, com podrien ser

greenhouse effect, such as they could be

els cotxes, les

the cars, the

indústries, el propi vapor

industries, the steam itself

d'aigua, el propi vapor d'aigua és un

water, the very steam of water is a

no és un contaminant, però sí que

it is not a pollutant, but it is

podríem estar parlant que és un efecte principal

we could be talking about it being a main effect

perquè la temperatura mitja

because the average temperature

de l'atmosfera pot anar augmentant.

from the atmosphere may increase.

Aleshores,

Then,

sí que és de veres

yes, it is true

que pot ser provocat tot aquest

that can be caused all this

escalfament climàtic.

climate warming.

Sobreviurem? Suposa que sí.

Will we survive? I suppose so.

Suposa que sí perquè

I suppose so because

al llarg de

along the

10 milions d'anys que té

10 million years old

el nostre planeta, realment

our planet, really

han hagut moltes èpoques

there have been many eras

en les quals el clima ha canviat.

in which the climate has changed.

El clima no és constant

The climate is not constant.

durant tota la vida del

throughout the life of the

planeta. Realment ha anat evolucionant

planet. It has really been evolving.

en funció de

depending on

els cicles, per exemple,

the cycles, for example,

solars. Cada 11 anys

solar. Every 11 years

n'hi ha un cicle solar

there is a solar cycle

on el sol en teoria està més a prop

where the sun is theoretically closer

de la Terra i per exemple

of the Earth and for example

dona hiverns més càlids

gives warmer winters

o hiverns més gel·lids.

or colder winters.

I per altra part

And on the other hand

el tema

the topic

de

of

mesurar l'impacte sobre

measure the impact on

la població.

the population.

Bé, evidentment

Well, obviously.

els efectes més problemàtics

the most problematic effects

a curt o mig plaç podrien ser

in the short or medium term they could be

l'augment dels oceans,

the rise of the oceans,

que és una cosa prou inevitable, evidentment,

that is quite an inevitable thing, evidently,

perquè està desfent-se tot el gel

because all the ice is melting

dels pols. Però

of the dust. But

no podem fer molta

we can't do much

més cosa que conscienciar la gent,

more than just raising awareness among people,

sobretot els governants. Jo crec que és la població

especially the rulers. I believe it is the population.

la que ja ha de començar a

the one that must already begin to

conscienciar els governants perquè

make the rulers aware so that

les coses vagin canviant i que la economia

things may change and that the economy

no sigui l'únic motor

don't be the only engine

que meneja la societat actual.

that moves today's society.

La veritat és que

The truth is that

és un tema allà

it's a topic there

on entra l'ètica,

where ethics come in,

on entra el poder, l'economia,

where power enters, the economy,

la societat,

the society,

el desenvolupament de les

the development of the

societats en definitiva, no ho sé.

societies in short, I don't know.

És complicat. El que sí que està clar

It's complicated. What is clear, however.

és que n'hi ha un calçament,

it's just that there's a footwear,

és innegable, perquè

it is undeniable, because

de fet hi ha 20 teories que volem desmentir

In fact, there are 20 theories that we want to debunk.

al principi i tot això,

at the beginning and all that,

però nosaltres com a ciutadans

but we as citizens

l'únic que podem fer és

the only thing we can do is

estar conscienciats, començar

to be aware, to start

a no consumir per consumir

to not consume in order to consume

i així de dir que, entre cometes,

and so to say, in quotes,

la crisi econòmica actual que estem

the current economic crisis we are in

patint a Espanya realment inclús està

suffering in Spain really even is

canviant el xip de moltes persones

changing the mindset of many people

a l'hora de com n'hi ha que consumir,

at the time of how many there are to consume,

a l'hora de com n'hi ha que

at the time of what there is that

gastar i

spend and

jo crec que va per

I think it goes for

fases. Estem en la fase ara de

phases. We are in the phase now of

que jo crec que n'hi ha moltíssima

that I believe there are a lot of them

més conscienciació, per exemple, els deberes que cada vegada

more awareness, for example, the duties that each time

reciclen més, més i millor.

recycle more, more and better.

Hi haurà interessos darrere

There will be interests behind.

d'aquestes empreses que reciclen? Sí,

Of these companies that recycle? Yes,

recicles hi haurà, perquè la gent necessita

There will be recycling, because people need it.

diners per a manejar-se, per a

money to manage, to

viure, perquè viuen en una societat capitalista,

live, because they live in a capitalist society,

però

but

però han de manejar-se en aquest sentit.

but they have to be managed in this direction.

Han de fer a poc a poc

They have to take it slowly.

coses que

things that

pensen que la Terra

they think that the Earth

no és infinita, la Terra és finita,

the Earth is finite,

és a dir, no...

that is to say, no...

tots els recursos que té la Terra

all the resources that the Earth has

s'esgoten, s'esgoten, i n'hi ha que trobar

they run out, they run out, and there are some to be found

fórmules per a reutilitzar-los

formulas to reuse them

i, evidentment,

and, obviously,

no maltractar o

do not mistreat or

desbaratar tots els recursos.

sabotage all resources.

Molt bé, Jesús.

Very good, Jesús.

Si ens acaba el temps,

If we run out of time,

una última pregunta.

One last question.

Com tindrem el temps

How will we have the weather?

per a les vacances de Pasqua?

for the Easter holidays?

Ui, bueno,

Oh, well,

anem a veure. La Pasqua sempre és la part

let's see. Easter is always the part

més perillosa de la meteorologia. La Pasqua

more dangerous than the weather. Easter

és un temps primaveral, això primer.

It is a springtime, this first.

La primavera, està clar que

Spring, it is clear that

és l'època de l'any

it's the time of year

més complicada per a predir,

more complicated to predict,

perquè, realment, anem molts passos

because, really, we are taking many steps

de borrasques per les nostres

from storms for our

latituds, cosa que, per exemple, no passa

latitudes, something that, for example, does not happen

en estiu, cosa que no passa

in summer, something that does not happen

tant en la tardor,

both in the autumn,

però, clar, en primavera

but, of course, in spring

l'horatge és molt republicat. Avui estem

The weather is very nice. Today we are

a dilluns

on Monday

i estem parlant de que

and we are talking about what

podríem donar una predicció d'així

we could make a prediction like this

una setmana i mitja. Queda

a week and a half. Remains.

molt de temps, no

long time, no

vaig a mullar-me, ho sent, ho sent.

I'm going to get wet, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

No vaig a mullar-me. Però, bueno,

I'm not going to get involved. But, well,

estem veient-ho, estem

we are seeing it, we are

en falles i

in Fallas and

hem passat per dies de

we have gone through days of

molta, bueno, de

a lot, well, of

pluja per l'interior. Hem

rain for the interior. We have

estat parlant de molt de vent,

was talking about a lot of wind,

que ha tombat un munt de falles per allà

that has knocked down a lot of fireworks over there

i, realment, doncs, hem d'anar

Yes, really, then we have to go.

veient l'horatge

seeing the clock

cada tres o quatre dies. Agafem el

every three or four days. We take the

paraigües i el banyador, per si acaso. Sí,

umbrella and swimsuit, just in case. Yes,

n'he agafat un poc de tot. Jo crec

I've taken a bit of everything. I think.

que la Pasqua és el tema

that Easter is the theme

sempre de l'any, no? És a dir,

always of the year, right? I mean,

quin horatge fan en Pasqua? En estiu

What time do they have in Easter? In summer?

la gent no s'ho pregunta tant, perquè

people don’t ask themselves that much, because

ja comença a entendre que

he is starting to understand that

en l'estiu l'horatge, entre cometes, sempre és el bo.

In summer, the weather, in quotes, is always good.

Però, clar, en la Pasqua, la

But, of course, at Easter, the

Pasqua és molt variable, és molt, molt, molt variable.

Easter is very variable, it is very, very, very variable.

I, de fet, inclús l'Agència Estatal

I, in fact, even the State Agency

de Metrologia arriba

from Metrology arrives

a publicar informes més detallats

to publish more detailed reports

perquè,

because,

realment, la població sol·licita

really, the population requests

un major pronòstic

a greater forecast

o hi haja major

or there may be greater

probabilitat d'un major detall. Però,

probability of a greater detail. But,

fins i tot, per a les pròpies agències de metro,

even for the metro agencies themselves,

és molt complicat predir l'horatge.

It is very complicated to predict the weather.

És molt complicat en Pasqua. I, ja t'ho dic,

It's very complicated at Easter. And, I'll tell you,

estem en el Mediterrani i, encara que això

we are in the Mediterranean and, although this

no ho sàpiga molta gent, és una

not many people know it, it is a

de les zones més complicades per a predir

one of the most complicated areas to predict

l'horatge del món.

the clock of the world.

Doncs, molt bé, Jesús, moltes gràcies

Well, very good, Jesus, thank you very much.

per haver acudit al nostre programa. A vosaltres.

for attending our program. To you all.

I crec que ens ho ha deixat

I think he has left it to us.

tot ben clar.

all clear.

Gràcies. Vinga, adeu.

Thank you. Come on, goodbye.

Per a la segon part del programa,

For the second part of the program,

contem amb Pablo Guerra,

we have Pablo Guerra,

professor del Col·legi de la Concepció

teacher of the Conception College

de Ciudad de Anteñant i observador

of Anteñant City and observer

d'EMET. Bon dia, Pablo. Bon dia.

from EMET. Good morning, Pablo. Good morning.

Bueno, Pablo,

Well, Pablo,

nos gustaría que nos

we would like you to

explicaras un poco... Jesús nos ha estado

you will explain a little... Jesus has been with us

explicando la parte

explaining the part

más técnica

more technical

de su afición, que es la

of his hobby, which is the

climatología. Nos gustaría que

climatology. We would like you to

volviéramos un poco al pasado,

let's go back a little to the past,

que nos explicara un poco la forma

that will explain to us a little about the way

de las cabañuelas. ¿Cómo se hace

of the cabañuelas. How is it done?

esta predicción y quién

this prediction and who

la puede hacer o cómo la puede hacer?

Can she do it or how can she do it?

Bueno, el

Well, he

mundo de las cabañuelas

world of the cabañuelas

es un mundo complejo.

It is a complex world.

Complejo y hay que tener una

Complex and you have to have a.

mínima

minimum

formación y también

training and also

lo avala

it supports it

el tiempo

the weather

para ejecutarlas. Un cabañolista

to carry them out. A cabanilist

es una persona en formación

she is a person in training.

continua y a

continue and to

los resultados empiezan a ser

the results are starting to be

espectaculares a medida que transcurre

spectacular as it progresses

el tiempo.

the weather.

Hay que distinguir

It is necessary to distinguish.

las predicciones del tiempo

the weather forecasts

por el método de cabañuelas y otra

by the method of cabañuelas and another

es, es una afición

Yes, it is a hobby.

particular mía, y otra

my particular one, and another

es mi dedicación

it is my dedication

científica al

scientist at

mundo real de la meteorología,

real world of meteorology,

que por eso soy observador

that's why I am observant

de EMET. Pero bien,

of EMET. But well,

dado que

given that

el anterior Jesús,

the former Jesus,

ha manifestado ya

has already manifested

la parte técnica de, como bien has dicho,

the technical part of, as you rightly said,

de cabañuelas, digo de

of the cabañuelas, I mean of

meteorología real, pues yo voy a dedicarme

real meteorology, because I am going to dedicate myself

a las cabañuelas. Cabañuelas

to the cabañuelas. Cabañuelas

es un diminutivo que viene

it is a diminutive that comes

de cabaña.

of cabin.

Y es el hábitat natural

And it is the natural habitat.

que utilizaban los judíos

that the Jews used

cuando iban en busca de la tierra

when they went in search of the land

prometida. Debido a su

promised. Due to your

necesidad y su dedicación al

need and his dedication to the

pastoreo, pues

grazing, then

se dedicaron

they dedicated

a predecir el tiempo,

to predict the weather,

con antelación, porque era

in advance, because it was

fundamental para el mundo del

fundamental for the world of

pastoreo y para sus

herding and for your

traslados que hacían.

transfers that they made.

De ahí salió cabaña, cabañuelas,

From there came cabin, cabin weather,

cabaña. Aquí a la Baida

cabin. Here in Baida

del Baida, pues se llaman caniculars.

from the Baida, as they are called caniculars.

Y cada uno, pues tenemos un

And each one, well we have a

procedimiento. Yo, como estoy

procedure. I, as I am

integrado en la asociación,

integrated into the association,

soy secretario de la asociación

I am the secretary of the association.

de cabañuelas de España,

of Spanish cabañuelas,

tenemos un protocolo para

we have a protocol for

realizarlas y un método

carry them out and a method

real. Aquí,

real. Here,

cada uno, pues las

each one, since the

interpreta. Y hay diferentes tipos de

interpret. And there are different types of

cabañuelas. Las cabañuelas

Cabañuelas. The cabañuelas.

de Santa Lucía. Luego

of Saint Lucia. Then

están también las témporas. Cada

There are also the fasts. Each

uno tiene un procedimiento.

one has a procedure.

Nosotros creemos que

We believe that

observar el tiempo

observe the weather

entre el 1 y el

between 1 and the

25 de agosto de cada año

August 25 of each year

son lo que se llaman las cabañuelas

they are what are called the cabañuelas

que realizamos nuestra

that we carry out our

asociación y las que

association and those

consideramos que son más fiables.

we consider they are more reliable.

Bien.

Okay.

Las cabañuelas se hacen en dos fases.

The cabañuelas are made in two phases.

Que son las cabañuelas maestras

What are the master cabanuelas?

y las cabañuelas retorneras.

and the returnable cabanuelas.

Las cabañuelas maestras

The master cabanuelas

se realizan entre

they are carried out between

el 1 y el 13

the 1 and the 13

de agosto.

of August.

Y entre el 14

And between the 14

y el 25 son las

and the 25 is at

retorneras. La palabra lo dice

You will return. The word says it.

perfectamente. Maestras

perfectly. Teachers

son fundamentales.

they are fundamental.

Y las

And the

retorneras son un complemento

returns are a complement

para verificar que

to verify that

estamos haciendo bien o mal

Are we doing right or wrong?

las cosas.

the things.

Se empieza el 1

It starts on the 1st.

de agosto

of August

pero no siempre se empieza

but it doesn't always start

a la misma hora. Es decir,

at the same time. That is to say,

nosotros funcionamos a

we operate at

hora solar. Pero

solar time. But

a hora solar y

at solar time and

relacionado con la orientación

related to orientation

del sol

of the sun

con Sirio,

with Sirio,

la estrella principal

the main star

de la constelación de Camp Mayor.

of the constellation of Camp Major.

Bien.

Good.

Cuando empezamos el 1 de agosto

When do we start on August 1st?

nosotros siempre retrasamos

we always delay

la hora del reloj

the hour of the clock

real a la

real to the

solar que corresponde

solar that corresponds

a ese

to that

alineamiento astrológico.

astrological alignment.

Y a partir de ahí interpretamos

And from there we interpret.

unas veces acabamos el día 26

Sometimes we finish the day on the 26th.

y otras empezamos

and others we start

como este año pasado que empezamos

like last year that we started

a las 3 de la tarde

at 3 in the afternoon

del reloj. 15 horas de reloj

from the clock. 15 hours on the clock

que eran la una solar.

it was one o'clock solar.

Bien. Esto no lo

Well. This not it

importa mucho.

it matters a lot.

Y entonces aquí cada dos horas

And then here every two hours.

hacemos la predicción, el día 1

we make the prediction, on the 1st

hacemos la predicción cada dos horas

We make the prediction every two hours.

general de lo que va a hacer

general of what he is going to do

en el mes

in the month

siguiente de cada año. Por ejemplo,

next of each year. For example,

si empezáramos

if we started

vamos a poner el caso

let's put the case

hipotético de que empezáramos

hypothetical that we would start

un día a las

one day at the

2 de la mañana

2 in the morning

o sea ya del día 1

I mean already from day 1.

y entonces retrasaríamos

and then we would delay

el reloj a las

the clock at

0 horas. Cuando son las 2

0 hours. When it is 2.

las 0 horas. Bien.

midnight. Good.

Pues en ese caso las dos

Well, in that case, both.

primeras horas correspondería

first hours would correspond

al mes enero

in the month of January

las dos siguientes al

the next two to

mes febrero y así

more February and so on

sucesivamente cuando transcurren

successively when they pass

las 24 horas del día 1

the 24 hours of day 1

abarcamos los 12 meses del año

we cover the 12 months of the year

correspondiente. Eso nos marca una

corresponding. That sets us a

característica general.

general characteristic.

Luego el día 2

Then on the 2nd

ya se corresponde íntegramente

it already fully corresponds

al mes de enero.

in the month of January.

El día 3 al mes de febrero

The 3rd of February.

el día 4 al mes

the 4th of the month

de marzo y así sucesivamente

of March and so on

hasta llegar el día 13 que es el mes

until reaching the 13th, which is the month

de diciembre.

of December.

Eso son las cabañolas maestras.

Those are the master huts.

Posteriormente

Subsequently

empezamos el día 14

we start on the 14th

y retorniras quiere decir que vamos al revés

"And to return means that we go backward."

el día 14 vuelve a ser diciembre

On the 14th, it will be December again.

el día 15

the 15th day

es noviembre y así

It's November and so on.

sucesivamente hasta que llegamos al

successively until we reach the

día 25 que es otra vez

day 25 which is again

enero.

January.

Bien, así como

Well, just like that.

en el día 1

on day 1

observamos el tiempo cada media hora

we observe the weather every half hour

los demás días

the other days

se observan cada 15 minutos

They are observed every 15 minutes.

y cada

and each

15 minutos observamos

We observe for 15 minutes.

el viento

the wind

fundamental

fundamental

las nubes

the clouds

que aparecen no es lo mismo que aparezca

that appear is not the same as appearing

una nube media alta

a mid-high cloud

o baja porque nos marca

or lower because it marks us

el índice de humedad. Sabemos que las

the humidity index. We know that the

nubes altas, los cirros o cirros

high clouds, the cirrus or cirros

tienen un 10%

they have a 10%

de humedad. Prácticamente esto

of humidity. Practically this

no nos va a indicar nada

he is not going to indicate anything to us.

no nos va a indicar lluvia.

It is not going to indicate rain.

Observamos también

We also observe.

otros meteoros como la temperatura

other meteors like temperature

no es lo mismo la temperatura que nos

it's not the same the temperature that we

haga en el mes, ya sabemos que en el mes de

do it in the month, we already know that in the month of

agosto es muy difícil que

August is very difficult that

las temperaturas estén a 0 grados

the temperatures are at 0 degrees

pero claro una temperatura

but of course a temperature

de 6 o 7 grados ya nos

of 6 or 7 degrees already us

indica que va a ser fresquito

it indicates that it is going to be cool

y depende el mes que estemos

and depending on the month we are in

observando. Básicamente

observing. Basically

en estos tres meteoros hay más

In these three meteors, there is more.

pero básicamente se cuidan

but basically they take care of themselves

estos tres.

these three.

Y luego en ese

And then in that

momento no interpretamos nada

At the moment, we don't interpret anything.

solo observamos y nos vamos

we just observe and leave

apuntando todos los datos de lo que

pointing out all the data of what

observamos, como ya he

we observe, as I have already

dicho, viento,

said, wind

humedad, temperatura

humidity, temperature

nubes y pues

clouds and well

lo vamos acumulando estos datos.

We are accumulating this data.

Vamos

Let's go.

pasando, ya sabemos que el día

passing, we already know that the day

1 hemos quedado enero, el día 2 febrero,

1 we have agreed on January, February 2nd,

lo vamos acumulando hasta el día 13

we'll accumulate it until the 13th

y cuando ya lo observamos los 25

and when we already observed it, the 25

días es cuando hacemos la interpretación.

Days are when we do the interpretation.

Téngase

Have it.

en cuenta que para hacer las

consider that in order to make the

cabañolas hay que situarse

cabañolas must be situated

en la parte más alta de la población

in the highest part of the population

donde se efectúan.

where they are carried out.

¿Por qué? Porque

Why? Because

hemos de procurar

we have to try

que como se observan

that as observed

las 24 horas del día

24 hours a day

hay que

we must

evitar las luces

avoid the lights

de los coches, de las

of the cars, of the

poblaciones que no nos dejan

populations that do not let us

ver el cielo estrellado

to see the starry sky

o el cielo, por ejemplo, en una

or the sky, for example, in a

parte alta, a veces hay niebla,

upper part, sometimes there is fog,

pero cuando estás en la parte alta del todo

but when you are at the very top

se te deja ver perfectamente.

It can be seen perfectly.

Esto, hay que situarse, como he

This, you have to position yourself, as I have

dicho, en las partes altas

said, in the high parts

de la población

of the population

y observar las 24

and observe the 24

horas. Nosotros tenemos la ventaja

hours. We have the advantage

de que yo, hay unos guardas

That I, there are some guards.

forestales en el Al de la Creu

forests in the Al de la Creu

que se dedican

that they dedicate themselves

son empleados

they are employees

de la Generalitat Valenciana

from the Valencian Government

pero al mismo tiempo

but at the same time

colaboran contigo

they collaborate with you

para la toma de datos.

for data collection.

Si no sería un trabajo imposible

Otherwise it would be an impossible job.

de realizar.

to carry out.

Bueno,

Well,

básicamente es esto,

basically it is this,

la parte de cabañolas.

the part of cabañolas.

Y luego ya se interpretarían

And then they would be interpreted.

los datos.

the data.

¿Cómo se realiza esta interpretación?

How is this interpretation carried out?

¿Cuál es el método que seguís una vez

What is the method you follow once?

tenéis recogidos todos los datos?

Do you have all the data collected?

Para poder decir

In order to say

o prever qué es lo que

or foresee what it is that

posiblemente va a pasar.

it is likely to happen.

Bien. Una vez que tenemos

Well. Once we have

recopilados los datos,

gathered the data,

nosotros dividimos

we divide

consideramos todos los meses

we consider every month

a 30 días. Independientemente

in 30 days. Regardless

de que febrero tenga 28

that February has 28

consideramos. Entonces

we consider. Then

lo que hacemos es dividir

what we do is divide

los días

the days

30 días entre

30 days between

24 horas que observamos

24 hours that we observe

para que sale un número, un coeficiente

for what a number, a coefficient comes out

1.25, por ejemplo.

1.25, for example.

Entonces quieres decir

So you mean

que cuando observamos

that when we observe

el tiempo lo multiplicamos

we multiply time

por 1.25 y sabe

for 1.25 and knows

y nos marca el día. El día 1

and it marks the day. The day 1

a las 2 de la mañana, por ejemplo,

at 2 in the morning, for example,

observamos un fenómeno que está cubierto.

we observe a phenomenon that is covered.

Nosotros estamos observando

We are watching.

que el cielo está cubierto,

that the sky is overcast,

que la temperatura es baja. Estamos en el mes

that the temperature is low. We are in the month

de enero, primeramente. Y estamos

from January, firstly. And we are

viendo que aparecen nubos

seeing that clouds are appearing

por el norte.

to the north.

Que la temperatura en ese momento es baja.

That the temperature at that moment is low.

Y que

And that.

estas nubes son

these clouds are

tipo oscuras.

dark types.

Prácticamente, nosotros

Practically, we

interpretaríamos ahí que vamos a

we would interpret there that we are going to

considerar que eso ocurre el día 1

consider that this happens on the 1st

y que continúa eso a través de

and that continues through

como observamos cada 15 minutos

as we observe every 15 minutes

se mantiene durante 2 o 3 días.

it lasts for 2 or 3 days.

Al ir multiplicando

As it is multiplying

por 1.25, pues diríamos

for 1.25, we would say

el día 1

the day 1

debido a

due to

como viene el viento del norte,

as the north wind blows,

temperatura baja

low temperature

y nubosidad abundante

and abundant cloudiness

y tipo negro, es muy probable

and black type, it is very likely

que del 1 al 4 que duraría

that from 1 to 4 would last

ese fenómeno sería

that phenomenon would be

hay muchas posibilidades de que nevará.

There is a high likelihood that it will snow.

Que se interpretaría

What would be interpreted

como nieve.

like snow.

Si

Yes

vemos que el viento es

we see that the wind is

de levante

from the east

estamos en los meses de enero, febrero

we are in the months of January, February

o marzo

or March

y baja la temperatura

and lowers the temperature

va bajando, que no va subiendo

it's going down, not up

interpretaremos como

we will interpret as

viene un temporal de levante.

A storm from the east is coming.

Si llueve, cuando estamos

If it rains, when we are

observando la cabañola, la cabañola

observing the small cabin, the small cabin

se descarga y una creencia

it downloads and a belief

popular que tiene la gente, sabemos que no va

popular that people have, we know it doesn't go.

a llover.

it's raining.

Ese mes, en esas horas,

That month, at those hours,

en esos días, seguro que no lloverá

In those days, it surely won't rain.

porque se ha descargado la cabañola.

because the shed has collapsed.

Recuerden

Remember

que las cabañolas

that the huts

tienen una validez

they have a validity

para un microclima.

for a microclimate.

No se pueden aplicar

Cannot be applied.

ni para 200 kilómetros

neither for 200 kilometers

a la redonda, ni mucho menos.

not at all.

Abarcan desde la parte

They cover from the part

más alta de la población

highest in the population

hasta un radio de unos 50

up to a radius of about 50

kilómetros.

kilometers.

Y hay que tener en cuenta los

And it is important to take into account the

conocimientos del clima, un observador

knowledge of the climate, an observer

de cabañolas

of cabañas

tiene que saber

you have to know

en qué poblacional, qué tipo

in what population, what type

de viento le afecta, de levante,

It is affected by the wind, from the east.

del norte, del oeste

from the north, from the west

o del sur.

or from the south.

Eso es un factor que se tiene

That is a factor that is taken into account.

muy en cuenta también.

also very much in mind.

La altitud a que nos situamos, que antes

The altitude at which we find ourselves, which earlier

no lo he nombrado, y también

I haven't mentioned it, and also

los puntos cardinales de donde estamos.

the cardinal points of where we are.

Por lo tanto, al interpretar los días

Therefore, when interpreting the days

nosotros vamos multiplicando por

we are multiplying by

1,25 cada momento

1.25 every moment

de la observación y nos va marcando

from the observation and it guides us

exactamente el día que corresponde.

exactly the day that corresponds.

Cuando empieza un fenómeno

When a phenomenon begins

meteorológico y cuando

meteorological and when

acaba, y se va interpretando todos los

ends, and it is interpreted all the

meses, todos los meses. Cuando acabamos

months, every month. When do we finish?

la interpretación por el método de las

the interpretation by the method of the

cabañolas maestras,

master cabins,

luego lo hacemos

then we'll do it

la interpretación de las

the interpretation of the

retorneras y luego los conjuntamos

you'll return and then we'll combine them

las dos y si en

the two and if in

una... vamos a poner que en una de las

one... let's say that in one of the

un día de las... el 1 de enero en

a day of... January 1st in

las cabañolas maestras nos

the master cabins us

ha proporcionado

has provided

ambiente lluvioso y sin embargo

rainy environment and yet

las retorneras es todo lo contrario.

The returners are the complete opposite.

El tiempo seco. Lo más

The dry weather. The most.

probable, como hemos

probable, as we have

observado todo el mes y se

observed all month and it

se computan

they are computed

los dos datos,

the two pieces of data,

lo que va a mandar siempre

what is always going to be sent

va a ser las cabañolas maestras.

it is going to be the master huts.

Pero no va a ocurrir exactamente

But it is not going to happen exactly.

como habían pronosticado las maestras

as the teachers had predicted

porque las retorneras nos dicen

because the returnees tell us

todo lo contrario. Por lo tanto, habrá

the opposite. Therefore, there will be

un valor intermedio entre las dos.

An intermediate value between the two.

Muy bien, vemos que es

Very well, we see that it is.

un método de estudio y un método

a study method and a method

muy complicado, pero para

very complicated, but for

que la gente lo entienda, ¿cuál es la

that people understand it, what is the

fiabilidad real

real reliability

de este método? La fiabilidad

of this method? The reliability

por ejemplo, se constata

for example, it is noted

con los resultados.

with the results.

Un observador experimentado

An experienced observer

la fiabilidad

reliability

es bastante elevada.

It is quite high.

No... vamos a ver

No... let's see.

si se pronostica

if it is forecasted

lo que ha pasado este año, por ejemplo,

what has happened this year, for example,

el pronóstico, que se cumple a lo mejor

the forecast, which may come true

con una semana de retraso.

with a week of delay.

Hay un desajuste.

There is a misalignment.

Cuando nosotros hacemos

When we do

un calendario climatológico

a climatic calendar

de las predicciones del tiempo

of the weather predictions

por el método de cabañolas,

by the method of cabañolas,

eso no es un tiempo exacto.

that is not an exact time.

Una persona culta

A cultured person

que entiende

that understands

no cree mucho

he doesn't believe much

en las cabañolas.

in the huts.

Pero evidentemente

But obviously

si el fenómeno ocurre

if the phenomenon occurs

con un retraso

with a delay

de 24 horas

24-hour

tampoco es significativo,

it is also not significant,

pero ocurre.

but it happens.

Efectivamente,

Indeed,

esta predicción, por ejemplo,

this prediction, for example,

ayer llovió

it rained yesterday

y estaba dentro de las predicciones

and it was within the predictions

de esta luna marcaba

of this moon marked

un tiempo

a time

que sería revuelto,

which would be scrambled,

tormentoso, ayer hubo una tormenta,

stormy, there was a storm yesterday,

el otro día hubo otra tormenta...

The other day there was another storm...

Entra dentro de los pronósticos.

It falls within the forecasts.

Es bastante fiable

It is quite reliable.

el método de cabañolas

the cabañolas method

ejecutado por profesionales

executed by professionals

que entienden del sistema de cabañolas.

that understand the cabañolas system.

Fiable, bastante fiable.

Reliable, quite reliable.

¿Tiene

Does it have

un componente científico?

a scientific component?

No.

No.

¿Hay una explicación racional sobre el hecho?

Is there a rational explanation for the fact?

No.

No.

¿Por qué se constatan

Why is it confirmed?

datos fiables

reliable data

y pronósticos fiables

and reliable forecasts

con el método de cabañolas?

with the cabañolas method?

Porque a lo largo

Because throughout

del tiempo

of time

esta observación

this observation

es un procedimiento

it is a procedure

empírico, está claro, ¿no?

Empirical, it’s clear, isn’t it?

Y luego se ha constatado con resultados

And then it has been confirmed with results.

a lo largo del tiempo.

over time.

Y el que ejecuta cabañolas

And the one who executes cabañolas.

no lo aprende en dos días,

you don't learn it in two days,

lo aprende en el transcurso del tiempo

He learns it over time.

al observar los fenómenos

upon observing the phenomena

que luego concuadran perfectamente

that will then fit perfectly

con lo que va a hacer al año siguiente.

with what he is going to do the following year.

Por lo tanto, la fiabilidad

Therefore, reliability

es bastante alta

she is quite tall

cuando lo hacen personas expertas.

when it is done by expert people.

Muy bueno.

Very good.

Pues estaremos un poco más atentos

Well, we will be a little more attentive.

en agosto para intentar

in August to try

saber qué va a pasar al año siguiente.

to know what is going to happen next year.

Volviendo un poco,

Returning a little,

en el tiempo real

in real time

nos has estado comentando

you have been telling us

que el Colegio de la Concepción

that the Colegio de la Concepción

en el que tienes tu observatorio

in which you have your observatory

tiene registros

it has records

de los últimos 100 años

of the last 100 years

y últimamente

and lately

en los últimos años

in recent years

está proporcionando información

is providing information

a la Agencia Estatal de Meteorología.

to the State Meteorological Agency.

¿Cómo

How

realizas,

you perform,

aparte de las cabañolas,

apart from the huts,

esta observación

this observation

utilizando los métodos actuales

using current methods

de la Agencia Estatal de Meteorología?

from the State Meteorological Agency?

Nosotros

We

a EMET

to EMET

antes INM

before INM

y antiguamente

and formerly

la Federación Agraria de Levante

the Agrarian Federation of Levante

el padre Arbona

Father Arbona

era un franciscano

he was a Franciscan

que pertenecía al Colegio de la Concepción

that belonged to the College of the Conception

y es el que impulsa

and it is what drives

la Federación Agraria de Levante

The Agrarian Federation of Levante

en sus tiempos.

in his times.

Ya se dedicaban

They were already dedicated.

siempre es tradición

it is always tradition

que los padres franciscanos

that the Franciscan fathers

tenien siempre

they always had

una garita

a sentry box

donde tenían siempre

where they always had

un termómetro y un pluviómetro manual.

a thermometer and a manual rain gauge.

Por lo tanto, independientemente

Therefore, regardless

de su colaboración

of your collaboration

con el Instituto Nacional de Meteorología

with the National Meteorological Institute

la Federación Agraria de Levante

The Agrarian Federation of Levante

siempre han tenido datos.

They have always had data.

Siempre.

Always.

¿Qué pasa?

What's happening?

Esa serie de datos se han ido acumulando

That series of data has been accumulating.

con el paso del tiempo

with the passage of time

y EMET, debido a la fiabilidad

and EMET, due to reliability

de sus observadores y de la continuidad

of its observers and of continuity

de la meteorología

of the meteorology

adquiere su protagonismo

gains prominence

al transcurrir el tiempo.

as time passes.

Un observador adquiere grandeza

An observer achieves greatness.

con el paso del tiempo

with the passage of time

porque los datos para determinar

because the data to determine

el clima de un lugar

the climate of a place

hacen falta datos de unos 30 años

Data from about 30 years is needed.

que algunos aficionados

that some fans

con el paso del tiempo lo van dejando.

Over time, they end up leaving it.

Nosotros los observadores de los colegios franciscanos

We the observers of the Franciscan schools

cuando se jubila uno

when one retires

pues siempre hay otro que continúa la labor

Well, there is always someone else who continues the work.

que inicia en uno

that starts at one

y la van reforzando e incluso cogen más datos.

and they are reinforcing it and even gathering more data.

Por lo tanto

Therefore

aquí en el Colegio de la Concepción

here in the Conception College

tenemos ya desde 1895

We have had it since 1895.

ya dos siglos

already two centuries

porque ahora estamos en el siglo XXI

because now we are in the 21st century

por lo tanto en el siglo XX

therefore in the 20th century

lo tenemos completo

we have it complete

y algunos datos del siglo XIX

and some data from the 19th century

Ahora tenemos datos ya

Now we have data already.

mucho más amplios

much broader

mucho más complejos

much more complex

y tenemos datos que no pasan

and we have data that does not go through

todos los días

every day

yo subo al colegio a tomar datos

I go up to school to take data.

sábados, domingos

Saturdays, Sundays

y si no puedo subir yo encargo a otra persona

And if I can't go up, I'll ask someone else.

porque tenemos dos estaciones

because we have two seasons

una manual y otra digital

one manual and one digital

la digital funciona por sí solo

the digital works by itself

y la manual

and the manual

es

is

AEMED

AEMED

la ha conservado sobre todo

has mostly preserved it

para cuando llueve

for when it rains

las estaciones

the stations

digitales, el pluviómetro que tiene

digitals, the rain gauge that it has

registrado cuando llueve torrencialmente

registered when it rains torrentially

como un buque

like a ship

y cuando miden impulsos eléctricos

and when they measure electrical impulses

de 0,2 litros por metro cuadrado

of 0.2 liters per square meter

se desajustan

they become misaligned

mientras que las manuales lo recogen

while the manuals collect it

son más fieles

they are more faithful

las manuales también tienen que estar

the manuals also have to be there

instaladas con unos requisitos

installed with some requirements

de distancia

of distance

entre arbolado, construcciones y demás

among trees, constructions and others

pero las digitales

but the digital ones

que apostó

who bet

AEMED por nosotros

AEMED for us

y como ya he dicho antes

and as I said before

debido a la fiabilidad de los observadores

due to the reliability of the observers

y de la continuidad en la toma de datos

and the continuity in data collection

de los observadores

of the observers

hoy en día salimos

Nowadays we go out.

en televisión española

on Spanish television

sale un tinien

a tin comes out

de toda la comunidad valenciana

from all of the Valencian community

sale muy poquito, sale Valencia

it comes out very little, it comes out Valencia

y una población me parece más

and a population seems more to me

y nosotros salimos todos los días

and we go out every day

precisamente

precisely

porque

because

debido a las series climáticas

due to climatic series

que tenemos que constan en Madrid

that we have to be registered in Madrid

la estación

the station

digital que tenemos

digital that we have

se puede entrevistar a distancia

It is possible to interview remotely.

registran los datos

they are recording the data

y aparecen todos los días dos veces a la semana

and they appear every day twice a week

dos veces al día

twice a day

una por la mañana y otra por la noche

one in the morning and another at night

muy bien

very good

¿y cuál es la función de esta estación?

What is the function of this station?

¿qué métodos utiliza?

What methods do you use?

¿qué registros tiene?

What records do you have?

las dos

the two

tomamos todos los días

we take every day

datos de sol

sun data

la insolación

sunburn

medimos la temperatura

we measure the temperature

medimos la humedad

we measure the humidity

medimos dirección

we measure direction

velocidad del tiempo

speed of time

medimos contaminación

we measure pollution

y

and

la radiación solar

solar radiation

también

also

¿cómo influyen estos factores?

How do these factors influence?

estos factores

these factors

como he dicho antes

as I said before

la finalidad de observarlos

the purpose of observing them

adquieren

they acquire

su razón

his reason

y su validez

and its validity

con el paso del tiempo

with the passage of time

todos estos fenómenos

all these phenomena

también observamos

we also observe

se dedica a observar las nieblas

he is dedicated to observing the fogs

las tormentas

the storms

cuando ocurre, cuando acaba

when it happens, when it ends

¿qué finalidad?

What purpose?

se construye un banco de datos

a database is being built

que sirven

that serve

para las compañías de seguros

for insurance companies

para los estudiantes

for the students

de las facultades

of the faculties

para el estudio del clima

for the study of the climate

para construir

to build

aparatos de insolación

sun exposure devices

o

o

qué tipo de instalación de instrumentos

What type of instrument installation?

hay que realizar en la industria

must be carried out in the industry

en función de

based on

¿tiene un tinyent

Do you have a tinyent?

alguna característica especial

any special feature

que la haga diferente

that makes her different

o más difícil

or more difficult

o más fácil

or easier

de observar

to observe

climatológicamente?

climatologically?

aquí tenemos

here we have

unas barreras

some barriers

cuando solo los temporales de levante

when only the east winds

un tinyent tiene un problema

A lieutenant has a problem.

que si entran muy debilitados

that if they enter very weakened

aquí no tenemos

here we don't have

dos problemas, con los temporales

two problems, with the storms

del poniente

from the west

o con los temporales de levante

or with the easterly storms

cuando los vientos son terrales

when the winds are dry winds

sí que tenemos más mucha velocidad

Yes, we do have a lot more speed.

del tiempo, cuando los

of time, when the

vientos son de recorrido marítimo

winds are of maritime trajectory

tenemos una barrera natural

we have a natural barrier

que es el mondúver

what is the Mondúver

toda la cadena de montañas del mondúver

the entire mountain range of Mondúver

¿qué hace? o son los temporales de levante

What is it doing? Or are they the Levantine storms?

muy fuertes

very strong

o allí hace que se desplome

or there it causes it to collapse

en toda la parte de Gandía

in the whole area of Gandía

en toda la parte de Pego

in the whole area of Pego

que es uno de los sitios que más llueve

that is one of the places that rains the most

con el mongó

with the lump

otra barrera natural

another natural barrier

entonces hay un resquicio ahí

so there's a crack there

entre el mongó y la cadena del mondúver

between the Mongó and the chain of Mondúver

que cuando viene ese temporal

that when that storm comes

por esa parte del sureste

on that part of the southeast

sí que entra una cuña

Yes, a wedge does fit.

y nos entra un temporal fuerte

and a strong storm hits us

pero si ese temporal de levante

but if that easterly storm

ya no nos entra

it no longer fits us

si son débiles

if they are weak

que es una barrera que tenemos

that is a barrier we have

en los vientos de levante

in the east winds

pero que no cabe duda

but there is no doubt

que los temporales de levante

that the Levant storms

que los de poniente

that those from the west

¿qué pasa? que aquí los temporales atlánticos

What's happening? The Atlantic storms are here.

tienen un recorrido

they have a route

por toda la meseta muy grande

across the very large plateau

y cuando los llegan aquí

and when they arrive here

llegan prácticamente desgastados

they arrive almost worn out

y tampoco tenemos

and we don't have either

gran cosa

great thing

pero sí que

but yes that

tenemos una cosa que nos afecta

we have something that affects us

que cuando el calor se recalienta

that when the heat overheats

con toda la meseta

with the whole plateau

nos entran los días

the days are upon us

tediosos del verano

tedious summer

caloríficos

calorific

porque se calienta mucho

because it gets very hot

a través de la meseta todo el aire caliente

through the plateau all the hot air

y cuando llega aquí a esta parte

and when he/she arrives here at this part

nos llegan vientos abrasadores

We are receiving scorching winds.

que nos queman en ciertos días del verano

that burn us on certain days of summer

esas también son dos cosas muy a tener en cuenta

Those are also two things to take into account.

luego tenemos otra cosa

then we have another thing

que la parte de San Esteve

that part of San Esteban

sí que, por ejemplo, la tormenta de ayer

yes, for example, yesterday's storm

se crea la parte de San Esteve

the San Esteve part is created

del componente noroeste

from the northwest component

y estas son las más efectivas

and these are the most effective

que afectan a la población

that affect the population

son las únicas tormentas

they are the only storms

que en estos cortos de tiempo

that in this short time

hacen lluvias torrenciales

they are making torrential rains

se forman trombos

thrombi are formed

e incluso granizo

and even hail

la última también ocurrió con esa misma trayectoria

The last one also occurred with that same trajectory.

las bolas de granizo

hailstones

un embolsamiento de aire frío de la atmósfera

a pocket of cold air from the atmosphere

se forman la parte de Poniente

they form the western part

y nos vienen aquí

and they come here to us

o sea que tenemos dos cosas

So we have two things.

resumiendo tenemos

in summary we have

los temporales de Levante o son potentes

The Levante storms are powerful.

o entran debilitados debido a la cadena del Mont Duvet

or enter weakened due to the Mont Duvet chain

los temporales de Poniente

the storms from the West

también cuando llegan aquí llegan muy debilitados

also when they arrive here they arrive very weakened

y tenemos como productivo

and we have as productive

son las tormentas

they are the storms

que se gestionan

that are managed

que nos entran por el noroeste

that come to us from the northwest

o también los vientos recalentados

or also the heated winds

de la meseta que nos llegan abrasadores

from the plateau that reach us scorching

aún tenían debido

they still had a debt

porque tiene mucho recorrido para calentarse

because it has a lot of distance to warm up

o sea, nos afecta lo malo

I mean, the bad affects us.

pero no lo bueno

but not the good one

Bueno, se nos está acabando el tiempo

Well, time is running out for us.

nos ha parecido muy interesante

it has seemed very interesting to us

toda la explicación que nos ha dado

all the explanation that you have given us

sobre todo las cabañuelas

especially the cabanuelas

que realmente la gente no conoce

that people really do not know

conocemos lo básico

we know the basics

lo que oímos de nuestros abuelos

what we heard from our grandparents

lo que oímos de la gente

what we hear from people

pero bueno, no sabemos que es un método

but well, we don't know what a method is

tan aplicado, tan importante

so applied, so important

en este caso

in this case

y bueno, ya para finalizar

and well, to finish up

una última pregunta

one last question

es obligada

is mandatory

prácticamente, ¿cuál será el tiempo

Practically, what will the weather be like?

que nos va a dar en Pascua?

What are we going to get for Easter?

Pues

Well

en estas Pascuas no va a llover

It won't rain this Easter.

pero la primavera sí que se va a presentar lluviosa

but spring is indeed going to be rainy

o sea, llover

that is, to rain

puede estar garantizado

can be guaranteed

que no hay lluvia en esta Semana Santa

that there is no rain this Easter

Aquí no entienden

Here they don't understand.

aquí no entienden

they don't understand here

pero sí que va a ser una primavera lluviosa

but it is going to be a rainy spring

una primavera que

a spring that

lluvias bien

good rains

generosas

generous

Muy bien, pues

Very well, then.

Pablo Guerra, muchas gracias por acudir a nuestro programa

Pablo Guerra, thank you very much for coming to our program.

muy interesante todo lo que nos has contado

very interesting everything you have told us

Gracias a ti por

Thank you for

permitirnos expresarnos en los medios

allow us to express ourselves in the media

en los medios

in the media

radiofónicos

radio broadcasters

Muchas gracias

Thank you very much.

Un saludo

A greeting

Mariana

Mariana

y

and

l'A дело que

The matter that

Rubén

Rubén