vol.135 在多哈暴走卡塔尔世界杯

字幕志愿者 杨栋梁

Subtitle Volunteer Yang Dongliang

12月3号

December 3rd

北京时间的12月3号晚上9点半

December 3rd at 9:30 PM Beijing time.

今天才能录世界杯的第一期节目

Today is the first day we can record the World Cup's first episode.

刚刚小组赛题完

The group stage questions have just been completed.

今天晚上是第一轮淘汰赛第一场

Tonight is the first match of the first round of the knockout stage.

荷兰对美国和阿根廷对澳大利亚

Netherlands against the United States and Argentina against Australia

聊点啥呢

What shall we chat about?

可以聊聊为什么我们会出现跨国的情况

Can we talk about why we have cross-national situations?

因为

Because

这些世界杯大家众所周知的原因

The reasons for these World Cups are well known to everyone.

这个出去一趟不容易

It's not easy to go out for a trip.

但是我们的这个杜老板因为工作原因

But our boss Du has to deal with work-related issues.

恰好有机会出国

Just happen to have the opportunity to go abroad.

然后就顺便去看了场球

Then I conveniently went to watch a game.

对吧

Right?

一场半

One and a half games

对

Yes.

聊一下吧

Let's chat.

聊一下

Let's chat.

昨天晚上我就看到群里面

I saw it in the group last night.

大家在说为什么没有节目

Everyone is wondering why there is no program.

为什么没有节目

Why is there no program?

其实前几天是可以录的

Actually, it was possible to record a few days ago.

结果不幸这个感染之后

As a result, unfortunately, after this infection...

对中招了

Got caught.

感染之后

After infection

有那么两三天

There were a couple of days.

就还感冒症状挺严重的

The cold symptoms are quite serious.

可能现在这声音也听得出来

Perhaps this sound can be heard now.

有一些现在还没完全恢复

There are some that haven't fully recovered yet.

对

Yes.

所以就没有录

So it was not recorded.

本来想到多哈就录节目的

I originally planned to record the program in Doha.

结果没想到

As a result, I didn't expect it.

因为在多哈待的很短

Because I stayed in Doha for a very short time.

我只住了两晚

I only stayed for two nights.

就离开多哈了

Just leaving Doha.

而且第二天

And the next day.

应该到多哈第二天

It should be the second day in Doha.

还第三天

Still the third day.

就还是有一些

There are still some.

感染之后

After infection

比如说不舒服的一些症状之后

For example, some symptoms of discomfort afterwards.

就所以就没有给大家录节目

So we didn't record the program for everyone.

聊一下吧

Let's chat.

聊一下大家比较关心的

Let's talk about what everyone is concerned about.

这个到卡塔尔

This is to Qatar.

看世界V的这个话题

The topic of looking at the world V.

第一是刚才朴哥说了

First, Brother Park just mentioned.

很多不太容易能够到得了的原因

There are many reasons why it is not easy to achieve.

是两点啊

It's two o'clock.

第一点现在航班很少

The first point is that there are very few flights now.

而且中国现在是没有

Moreover, China currently does not have it.

只费多哈的一个航班的

Just one flight from Doha.

这是第一

This is the first.

对中转一般就去

Usually go for the transfer.

什么阿布扎比啊

What Abu Dhabi?

或者说迪拜啊中转

Or say Dubai, uh, transfer.

这是第一点

This is the first point.

第二点呢

The second point is...

就是护照签证的问题

It is about the passport and visa issues.

因为疫情的原因吧

It must be because of the pandemic.

很多大家签证

Many people's visas.

那个护照已经过期了

That passport has expired.

就没有没有护照

Then there is no passport.

这次和之前的世界杯是一样的

This World Cup is the same as the previous one.

就是你只要有求票之后

As long as you have a request for a ticket afterwards.

你就不再需要单独去做这个卡塔尔的签证了

You no longer need to apply for the Qatar visa separately.

当然卡塔尔对中国公民之前本来也是落地签

Of course, Qatar used to offer visa-on-arrival for Chinese citizens.

但是世界杯期间

However, during the World Cup

他是取消了落地签证的政策

He canceled the policy of visa on arrival.

也就是说全世界杯期间

That is to say, throughout the entire World Cup period.

得有拿着求票

Must have a request for a ticket.

然后去官网申请到这个所谓的球迷卡之后

Then go to the official website to apply for this so-called fan card.

就能够就能够正常的一个入境了

You will be able to enter normally.

第三点不太容易是这次大家之前新闻

The third point that is not very easy is the news everyone had before this.

你肯定也看了就是住宿的条件不是很好

You must have seen that the accommodation conditions are not very good.

或者说是资源比较紧张吧

Or it could be said that resources are relatively tight.

因为毕竟多哈就那么大

After all, Doha is just that big.

我觉得条件

I think the conditions.

其实还挺好

Actually, it's pretty good.

挺好的就是价格不太友好

Pretty good, but the price is not very friendly.

而且据说很难定了

Moreover, it is said to be very difficult to determine.

因为我刚才上了Airbnb

Because I just went on Airbnb.

我去看但凡是比赛日前后的这个房间基本都是满的

I go to see that this room is basically full on the days before and after the competition.

对因为多哈地方很小嘛

Because Doha is very small.

而且那地方其实是收入水平也还挺高的

Moreover, that place actually has a pretty high income level.

所以确实很贵

So it's really expensive.

再加上我我我猜测

Moreover, I guess.

我自己猜测应该有些酒店资源是也是在被一些

I guess some hotel resources are also being utilized by certain people.

黄牛

Scalper

他们不知道叫不叫黄牛

They don't know if they should call it scalping.

反正在炒作吧

Anyway, it's just hype.

导致整个酒店确实非常非常的贵

This makes the entire hotel indeed very, very expensive.

这次我碰到的碰着的中国球迷就不多

I didn't encounter many Chinese fans this time.

很少很少

Very rarely.

没有几个

Not many.

这个因为你看比赛很热门啊

This is because watching the game is really popular.

对啊

Yeah.

那场球按道理

That game, in theory.

我之后在这个我们国内的社交媒体上包括b站

I later posted on our domestic social media, including Bilibili.

这个短视频平台看到了很多这个相关比赛

This short video platform has seen a lot of related competitions.

短视频感觉还挺多

There seem to be quite a few short videos.

但是我大概数了一下估计就几十个人吧

But I roughly counted, and there are probably just a few dozen people.

这场球对不多不多不多

This game is not too much, not too much, not too much.

因为之前我们去俄罗斯嘛

Because we went to Russia before.

基本上你每天能碰到很多中国人的对对对球场内能碰到很多

Basically, you can meet many Chinese people every day, and you can encounter many of them on the court.

对球场内包括城市里面能碰到很多

You can encounter many things on the court, including in the city.

但是这次因为是有的

But this time it is because there is some.

大家知道之前给大家聊过那个刘磊

Everyone knows that I previously talked about that Liu Lei.

他是在多哈

He is in Doha.

然后过去合赛之后呢

Then after the joint competition,

就和他碰上头之后就也其实大部分也是本来就生活在这个国外的一些中国球迷吧

It's just that after bumping heads with him, most of them are actually Chinese fans who originally live abroad.

在一块真真正正从国内过去看球的球迷确实我是一个没遇着

I really haven't encountered a true fan who has gone to watch a game from the domestic side.

我遇到所有的中国人中国球迷都是他本身就已经在国外了

I have met all the Chinese people and Chinese fans who are already abroad.

从国内过去我没遇着

I haven't encountered it since coming from the country.

但也有可能大家如果好不容易出去一趟

But it’s also possible that if everyone finally goes out for a trip...

可能会选择去看后面的淘汰赛

Might choose to watch the upcoming elimination matches.

所以小赛阶段不在

So the preliminary stage is not available.

也也很正常

It's also very normal.

第二就是刚才朴哥说的这个酒店资源的问题确实确实很贵

The second issue is indeed that the hotel resources mentioned by Brother Park are really very expensive.

而且贵的离谱

And it's ridiculously expensive.

但我也不知道是被炒作的还是确实官方

But I don't know if it's hype or if it's actually official.

他酒店就在卖卖那么贵

His hotel is selling at such a high price.

但确实很麻烦

But it is indeed very troublesome.

而且很多是定不上你都不是说你给钱就能住的一个问题

Moreover, many places can't be booked just by saying you're willing to pay.

因为之前我们还就是因为不好定酒店嘛

Because we had difficulty booking a hotel before.

我们想多待几天多待几天之后

We want to stay a few more days.

我们甚至

We even

思考过我们能不能自驾

I have thought about whether we can drive ourselves.

对吧

Right?

我们我们可以开住车里吗

Can we stay in the car?

对甚至我当天离开嘛

Even if I leave that day.

当天离开我去旁边住嘛

Leave that day and go live next door.

结果后来发现不行

It turns out later that it didn't work.

这个入境停车也是个很麻烦的问题

The issue of parking at the entry point is also quite troublesome.

他车不让入境不让入境之后

His car is not allowed to enter the country.

他收非常高的停车费

He charges very high parking fees.

据说每天几百上千美金的一个停车费

It is said that the parking fee is several hundred to a thousand dollars a day.

所以就很麻烦

So it's very troublesome.

导致反正这次事业杯

Causing this time the Cup of Career.

我短短的几天的体验

My brief experience over the few days.

我觉得

I think.

这个整个氛围没那么好

The overall atmosphere isn't that great.

但是氛围没那么好的原因

But the atmosphere isn't that good.

可能还有别的一会儿我们可以接着对对对再量

Maybe there will be other times when we can continue measuring again.

第二件乔刚说的对对

The second thing Jiang just said is correct.

求票的问题

The issue of requesting tickets.

求票呢

I’m asking for a ticket.

也也是那个问题啊

It's still the same question.

也是刚说的问题

It's the same issue that was just mentioned.

第一很难买第二位当然听到为什么会很难买呢

First, it's very difficult to buy; second, of course, you hear why it would be hard to buy.

我我这儿有一个疑问

I have a question here.

就是因为现场我们看这个直播看了很多嘛

It's just that we watched a lot of this live broadcast on site.

嗯我们的能够看到很多看台

Well, we can see many stands.

其实是空的

It is actually empty.

呃对我没那么慢

Uh, I'm not that slow.

我之前我也认为你像我们在俄罗斯的时候

I previously thought you were like when we were in Russia.

其实求票是没那么难买的对吧

Actually, it's not that difficult to get tickets, right?

对对嗯

Yes, yes, uh-huh.

这个哪怕是淘汰赛阶段半决赛的求票

This is a request for tickets for the semifinals, even if it's during the knockout stage.

他他都不是那么难

It's not that difficult for him.

这次去之前我也认为求票嘛

Before this trip, I also thought about asking for tickets.

应该没那么复杂

It shouldn't be that complicated.

就到了之后发现不太好买不太好买

Once I arrived, I found it wasn't easy to buy.

我就分别找了一下

I just looked for it separately.

中国的朋友找了一下当地的

A friend from China looked for the local ones.

因为我们打出车遇到出车司机

Because we encountered a driver while getting a ride.

他就说他买到了那个啊他哪来着

He just said he bought that, where did he get it from?

就是阿根廷墨西哥那样求吧

Just ask like Argentina and Mexico.

就求票

Just asking for tickets.

但是我还没那场球球票

But I haven't got the tickets for that game yet.

那我就问他我说怎么买

Then I asked him how to buy it.

他说啊很难买

He said it's very difficult to buy.

怎么不好买

Why is it difficult to buy?

他跟我说怎么怎么买

He told me how to buy it.

他们是怎么怎么买到的

How did they buy it?

后来我就想了一下这个问题啊

Later, I thought about this question.

第一第一可能性一呃

First possibility, uh.

这是当地人跟我说

This is what the locals told me.

他说很多因为周边国家到这儿来看这杯的成本是不高的

He said that many neighboring countries find the cost of coming here to see this cup is not high.

因为他近

Because he is close.

而且人多对

And there are many people, right?

所以导致

So it led to.

所以的

So it is.

而且特别是像亚洲国家

Especially in Asian countries.

包括印度包括中东的对他人口本来就比较多

Including India, the Middle East has a relatively large population of other ethnicities.

他们来呢

They are coming.

这次成本就会低很多

The cost this time will be much lower.

毕竟近嘛

After all, it's close, right?

所以导致他这边来的人很多

This has led to many people coming here.

第二呢

The second one.

是真的是事业杯

It is indeed the career cup.

他场馆与场馆之间距离太近

The venues are too close to each other.

导致球迷可以随意选择

Allows fans to choose freely.

就我可以赶场对吧

So I can make it to the event, right?

对我可以赶场赶场的对一会儿可以聊赶场的问题

I can catch up on things, and we can discuss the scheduling issues in a bit.

不可以随意选择

Cannot be chosen at will.

就是我想看的球

It's the game I want to watch.

今天晚上我都可以先买不像在比如说之后的美国或者说俄罗斯来做这个事业

Tonight I can buy first, unlike in countries like the United States or Russia to pursue this business later.

比如说你在一个城市

For example, you are in a city.

你只只能看这个城市的球

You can only watch the ball of this city.

比如进来了500万球迷

For example, 5 million fans came in.

你分散在不同的城市

You are scattered across different cities.

你就只能买这个城市的球

You can only buy balls from this city.

这次是进来500万球迷

This time 5 million fans came in.

可以是所有球他都可以选对啊

He can choose the right ball out of all the balls.

像前两天比赛日一天四场球

Like the day of the competition a couple of days ago, there were four matches in one day.

如果你看一个第一场开一个第三场或第四场很轻松的对

If you watch a first game and then a third or fourth game, it's very easy.

第三问题就是当地包括中东地区的球迷把球票炒的还是挺贵的

The third issue is that local fans, including those in the Middle East, are driving up the prices of tickets quite a bit.

因为消费能力强嘛

Because of strong purchasing power.

对消费能力很强

Very strong purchasing power.

因为和几个黄牛国内过去黄黄牛聊了一下

Because I had a chat with a few scalpers who came from abroad.

他们就说

They just said.

他们现在敢甚至比赛当天

They now dare to even do it on the day of the competition.

比如说举个例子

For example, let's take an example.

比如说是

For example, it is.

比如说阿根廷墨西哥这种球吧

For example, teams like Argentina and Mexico.

阿根廷墨西哥这种比较贵的球迷

Expensive fans like those from Argentina and Mexico.

比较热门的比赛

Relatively popular matches.

他们甚至敢比赛当天的上午中午一千美金的成本来借球票

They even dared to borrow tickets on the morning of the competition day with a cost of one thousand dollars.

一千美金一张对

One thousand dollars for one card.

这个球票的官方售价也就是六百块钱

The official price of this ticket is six hundred yuan.

六百六百六百当地币也就是一千二百块钱人民币吧

Six hundred six hundred six hundred local currency is equivalent to one thousand two hundred yuan, right?

然后他们敢甚至以一千美金的这个价格来借他们不成卖不出去

Then they dare to borrow them at a price of a thousand dollars, but they can't sell them.

而且他是中国的话

And if he is Chinese.

他肯定不是卖中国人

He definitely is not selling Chinese people.

因为中国没那么多人来他就在

Because not so many people come to China, he is there.

现场卖去看球的一些外国人

Some foreigners selling tickets to watch the game on site.

他也能卖的出去

He can also sell it.

所以就说好像这是球票贵

So it's said that the tickets are expensive.

但是消费力也很足

But the purchasing power is also strong.

导致他就价格一直居高不下了

This has caused his prices to remain high.

但是这么看下去

But looking at it this way...

说实话

To be honest.

我觉得还还还有一个很重要原因是因为这一届卡达尔

I think there is another very important reason, which is because of this term of Qadar.

是也被首先一人有钱

It was also the first person to get rich.

第二个地方太小

The second place is too small.

说实话

To be honest.

整个卡达尔的国家的国土面积还没有北京市市区大

The entire land area of the country of Qatar is not even larger than that of the urban area of Beijing.

所以

So

对对对你想就是哪怕从北京市

Yes, yes, yes, you think even if it's from Beijing.

而且他人口也只有这个三百万

Moreover, his population is only three million.

你想想一个只有三百万人口的北京市

Imagine a Beijing with a population of only three million people.

你哪怕从北六环开到南六环

Even if you drive from the North Sixth Ring to the South Sixth Ring.

我觉得一个半小时两个小时也都够

I think one and a half hours or two hours is enough.

所以我是觉得这些世界杯就是因为有这么小的这么一个国家吧

So I think these World Cups are because of such a small country.

外加上我举个例子

Additionally, let me give you an example.

这一共六十四场球一场

A total of sixty-four matches, one match each.

咱平均上座

Let's have an average attendance.

因为他有些球场小

Because he has some small courts.

但是他的那个主球场还是很大的

But his main stadium is still very large.

对吧

Right?

对卢塞尔

To Lucelle

对卢塞尔能做九万多

Lussell can do over 90,000.

咱平均按每场六万人来算

Let's calculate based on an average of 60,000 people per game.

六十多场球加在一起就有三百多万人

More than sixty matches combined have attracted over three million people.

他的接待能力

His reception ability.

对突然间一个本来就只有三百万人的国家

To suddenly have a country that originally only had three million people.

突然间又来了这么多人

Suddenly, so many people have come again.

球迷过来

Fans come over.

甚至很多球迷是旅游啊等等那种状态

Many fans are in a travel-like state, and so on.

你至少可以可能要接待一两百万人的

You may need to accommodate at least one or two million people.

突然他的接待能力

Suddenly, his reception ability.

我相信一定会有问题

I believe there will definitely be problems.

因为我看了很多社交媒体上

Because I have seen a lot on social media.

都有说

Everyone has something to say.

就是他的球迷球迷

It's just his fans.

困村啊

A trapped village.

条件特别差

The conditions are particularly poor.

没有热水等等

There is no hot water, etc.

然后公共交通非常不方便啊

The public transportation is very inconvenient.

就是因为本身他那个地方私家车拥有率又高

It is precisely because the car ownership rate in that area is high.

本身公共交通就少

Public transportation is already scarce.

呃

Uh

然后外加上接待能力不足

Plus, there's a lack of sufficient reception capacity.

所带来的很多方面服务上面的这个比较差

The services provided in many aspects brought are quite poor.

等等这样的问题吧

Let's hold off on such questions for now.

但是杜老板这回还不错

But Boss Du did well this time.

他订到了酒店

He booked a hotel.

然后我我刚才还查了一查

Then I just checked it again.

我看了看一个住宿条件和我们差不多

I took a look at an accommodation that is about the same as ours.

锦江之星

JinJiang Inn

儒家

Confucianism

这种水平的酒店

Hotels of this level.

现在基本都被炒到五百美金一碗啊

Now it's basically炒到 five hundred dollars a bowl.

那杜老板说一个说很贵

That Boss Du said it's very expensive.

对多贵

How expensive!

就是你在国内住锦江之星

You stay at Jinjiang Inn in the country.

差不多三千五百块人民币一碗

About three thousand five hundred yuan for a bowl.

就是这种水平的价钱

It's the price at this level.

对我们那个酒店是一个公寓

The hotel we stayed at is an apartment.

他其实是一个嗯

He is actually a, um.

然后我们订的

Then we booked.

因为我们去的人比较多嘛

Because there are quite a few of us going.

还有朋友一块

There are friends together.

我们订了一个呃两个其实三个房间吧

We booked one, actually two, well, three rooms.

就两个大房间

Just two big rooms.

一个小房间的三个套房的一个房间

A room in a suite of three in a small room.

当时定价

Initial pricing

大概应该就三千多美金一碗吧

It should cost around three thousand dollars a bowl.

但是啊

But...

后来到了现场看了一下啊

Later, I went to the site to have a look.

我觉得啊

I think that...

有也也也有省钱的玩法

There are also ways to save money.

就我们那个房间

Just our room.

我估计住个十五六个人没问题啊

I estimate that it won't be a problem to accommodate about fifteen or sixteen people.

因为巨大

Because it is huge.

而且还可以做饭

And can also cook.

嗯

Hmm.

呃

Uh

我觉得住个十五六个人没问题

I think there’s no problem living with about fifteen or sixteen people.

那如果你这样算的话

Then if you count it this way,

其实可能球迷一块去

Actually, it might be that the fans go together.

还是有可以有省钱的一个住房

There is still an option for affordable housing.

你十五六个人

You have fifteen or sixteen people.

你平均一天一个人住的

You live alone on average for a day.

就一两百啊

Just one or two hundred.

一百多两百美金的话

One hundred to two hundred US dollars.

呃

Uh

我觉得

I think.

我觉得就算是非常不错了

I think it's pretty good.

而且环境还可以

The environment is also good.

嗯

Hmm.

呃

Uh

这就就就就个弟子啊

This is just a disciple.

像这个什么凯宾斯基这种酒店啊

Hotels like Kempinski, for example.

凯宾斯基这种酒店在国内基本上也算是五星级酒店里面还算不错的了啊

Kempinski hotels are generally considered quite good among five-star hotels in the country.

一千多块美金

More than a thousand dollars.

嗯

Hmm.

现在很贵

It's very expensive now.

非常贵

Very expensive.

我就举个例

Let me give you an example.

我刚查了一下今晚的价钱啊

I just checked the price for tonight.

一个凯宾斯基的啊

A Kempinski.

凯宾斯基的双床房呃

Kempinski's twin room.

价钱在两万价

The price is around twenty thousand.

两万价

Twenty thousand price

三千多三千美金

More than three thousand three thousand dollars.

三千多美金一万

More than three thousand dollars is ten thousand.

但是我我我随着我随手查了一下

But I, I, I casually checked it out.

世界杯结束之后

After the World Cup ends

嗯我世界杯结束之后的就这么这么一个价钱

Well, this is the price after the World Cup ends.

嗯

Hmm.

对我

To me

你猜多少钱

Guess how much it costs.

可能就八百

It might be eight hundred.

直接少个零

Just remove a zero.

两千块钱吗

Is it two thousand yuan?

对两千块啊

About two thousand bucks.

不光是酒店啊

Not just hotels.

从周边城市飞到多哈的飞机啊

The flights from nearby cities to Doha.

不光是酒店啊

Not just hotels.

从周边城市飞到多哈的飞机啊

Flights from surrounding cities to Doha.

飞到多哈的飞机像

The plane flying to Doha is like

这个从我们从迪拜飞到多哈的机票

This is the ticket for our flight from Dubai to Doha.

嗯

Uh-huh.

都贵贵的很难让人理解啊

Everything is so expensive that it's hard to understand.

这这两个城市只有不到一千公里

The distance between these two cities is less than a thousand kilometers.

飞机只飞一个小时的一个路程

The plane only flies for a journey of one hour.

价格都贵到不可接受

The prices are unbelievably high.

因为那天我也问了一下

Because I also asked about it that day.

在现场碰到一个中国球迷

Met a Chinese fan at the scene.

他们就在迪拜工作的

They are working in Dubai.

啊

Ah

他们是迪拜工作的中国人

They are Chinese people working in Dubai.

他们也是过去看

They also used to look back.

呃

Uh

阿根廷那项球

The ball from Argentina.

就我问他们

Just ask them.

他们说是当天下午到

They said it would arrive that afternoon.

我问他们机票多少钱

I asked them how much the plane ticket costs.

基本上他们买的挺早了

Basically, they bought it quite early.

什么提前一个月买机票也定到差不多

Buying the plane ticket a month in advance is about the same.

得往返一千美金左右

It costs about a thousand dollars for a round trip.

哦

Oh

也七千块很贵了

Seven thousand yuan is already quite expensive.

非常贵啊

It's very expensive.

那么紧的距离

So close a distance.

这个六百公里的那地方你开车半天也就开到了

It takes you half a day to drive to that place which is six hundred kilometers away.

嗯

Uh-huh.

所以

So

贵

Expensive

我觉得这个这个这个这个东西是这次是也被之后

I think this thing has also been affected afterward.

大家可能会手中去聊的一个话题

A topic that everyone might chat about.

刚刚小哥也说到公共交通的问题

Just now, the young man also talked about the issue of public transportation.

呃

Uh

卡道尔花了很多钱啊

Ka Daoer spent a lot of money.

甚至为之是也被新建了地铁

Even for this, a new subway has been built.

大家可能新闻都看了说是中国中国供应的一个无人驾驶的一个地铁确实很漂亮

Everyone may have seen the news about the impressive driverless subway supplied by China.

这个地铁站也修的很好

This subway station is also very well built.

嗯

Uh-huh.

但确实这个国家本来是不太需要公共交通的

But this country really doesn't need public transportation that much.

嗯

Hmm.

对他们都都开车

They all drive for them.

然后不太需要公共交通

Then public transportation is not really needed.

然后地铁呢

Then what about the subway?

我们

We

也不是说我们体验了一下吧

It's not like we experienced it or anything.

其实这次事业杯

Actually, this time the World Cup

可能大家觉得组织差的一个很大的原因就是

One of the main reasons that people may feel the organization is lacking is that...

呃

Uh

给我留下最深刻感受就是你每天得步行非常非常远的一个距离

What left the deepest impression on me is that you have to walk a very, very long distance every day.

这个和你选择什么样的交通工具没有关系

This has nothing to do with what kind of transportation you choose.

你不管是打车也好

Whether you take a taxi or not

你还是坐地铁也好

It's better for you to take the subway.

还是用公交也好

It's better to use the bus anyway.

还是用他的球迷的这个

Still use this from his fans.

百度车也好

Baidu cars are good too.

你都得走非常非常远的距离

You have to walk a very, very long distance.

因为

Because

呃

Uh

举例子

Give an example.

比如说我们说用地铁吧

For example, let's say we use the subway.

地铁可能是最快也是

The subway may be the fastest and also...

是最最效率最高的一个交通方式啊

It is the most efficient mode of transportation.

对基本上到每个球场

Basically to every court.

你从地铁站到走进球场基本上得40分钟的一个时间

It basically takes about 40 minutes from the subway station to walk into the stadium.

嗯

Hmm.

就有这么远停车场就更远了

The parking lot is already so far away.

如果你选择开车的话

If you choose to drive.

停车场就更远了

The parking lot is even farther away.

嗯

Hmm.

所以这个让我就觉得怎么说

So this makes me feel, how should I put it?

呃

Uh

虽然你可以每天晚上看三场球

Although you can watch three games every night.

如果你动作快的话

If you move quickly.

你可以转三场看三个球

You can change to three games and watch three balls.

但是确实在体力上这个是很难接受的

However, this is indeed very difficult to accept physically.

对三场球不是很难吗

Isn't it quite difficult to play three games?

你因为你只开了一场半吗

Did you only have one and a half shows?

对吧

Right?

对呃

Um, yeah.

我们那天是这样的

It was like this for us that day.

我们那天的球是11月20

Our game that day is on November 20th.

呃

Uh.

26 27

26 27

26

26

26号还是27

The 26th or the 27th?

我忘了

I forgot.

就是第一场是法国对丹麦

The first match is France vs. Denmark.

第二场是

The second match is

呃

Uh

阿根廷对墨西哥那场球

The match between Argentina and Mexico.

嗯

Well.

法国对丹麦那场球的球场在那个974

The stadium for the match between France and Denmark is at 974.

就在海边的那个所谓的集装箱球场

That so-called container stadium by the sea.

集装箱球档

Container ball stop

对挺漂亮的

It's quite beautiful.

然后阿根廷那场球是在卢塞尔

Then the match in Argentina was in Lusail.

呃

Uh

两个地方隔热化开车得有50多分钟的一个时间

It takes more than 50 minutes to drive between the two places.

开车

Driving

呃

Uh.

当时我们考虑就是说

At that time, we were considering that...

嗯

Um.

看完法国这场提前一连走

After watching this match in France, I left immediately.

然后去看阿根廷

Then go see Argentina.

结果当地的朋友就跟我说不可能

As a result, the local friends told me it was impossible.

你最多只能看半场

You can only watch half of the game at most.

看半场还不能保证你一定赶得到

Watching half the game doesn't guarantee you'll definitely make it.

结果也是

The result is also.

呃

Uh

找了一个当地的

Found a local one.

呃

Uh.

一个朋友吧

A friend, I guess.

这朋友他正好也要看法国那场

This friend just happens to be going to watch the match in France as well.

看完之后他也要转场

After watching, he also wants to change the scene.

就和我们形成一致

Just align with us.

然后他自己还开了

Then he drove himself.

开了车

I drove.

我们就相当于是

We are equivalent to.

坐他的车一块过去

Let's go there together in his car.

去时间确实很赶

The time really is tight.

但是那场球很有意思的是

But what’s interesting about that game is

从来没有看见过

I have never seen it before.

在世界杯这样的比赛里面

In competitions like the World Cup

足球比赛的中场有这么多球迷来进行转场

During the halftime of the soccer match, so many fans came to change locations.

这个事情呢

This matter.

因为当时我们冲暖休息出门

Because at that time we went out during the warm break.

我发现怎么这么多人

I noticed how there are so many people.

都出来了

Everyone is out.

而且大家都呃

And everyone is uh.

大家都很很很很赶的在网

Everyone is very very very very busy online.

不管是去地铁站坐地铁还是去坐那个

Whether it's going to the subway station to take the subway or to take that.

呃

Uh

传说的巴士还是自己去停车场开车

The legendary bus still goes to the parking lot by itself.

很多很多人可能上千人

Many, many people, possibly thousands.

我觉得是

I think so.

嗯

Um.

呃

Uh

说实话

To be honest.

那场球下半场呃

In the second half of that game, uh...

比赛开场就法国队丹麦的下半场

The match began with France's team in the second half against Denmark.

呃

Uh

我也看到了

I also saw it.

看台上空了好大一片人

There is a large empty section in the stands.

对

Yes.

这也是这届世界杯

This is also this World Cup.

我觉得一个还挺有意思的一个点

I think it's quite an interesting point.

就是

That's it.

中立球迷其实还挺多的

There are actually quite a lot of neutral fans.

就相当于

It is equivalent to.

因为因为因为比赛紧凑吗

Is the competition tight?

大家知道那些足球强国的很多球迷一过去可能都是一个月

Everyone knows that many fans from strong football countries may have spent a month in the past.

啊

Ah

或者是或者是二十几天十几天的一个行程

Or it could be a trip of twenty-something days or ten-something days.

所以他们这在没有自己主队的时候

So when they don't have their own team.

他们就来回转着看比赛

They kept turning back and forth to watch the game.

好多人是这样的一个选择

Many people make such a choice.

所以呃

So, uh...

像如果再大一点的国家对

Like if it were a slightly larger country.

他他没那么容易转场

He doesn't change scenes that easily.

像比如上一在俄罗斯可能这场在咔嚓

For example, this scene might be in Russia.

呃

Uh

咔嚓

Click.

这一场球

This match.

对他转不了

Can't turn to him.

他要跨城市

He wants to travel between cities.

但是卡达尔这个和北京市呃还小一点的地方的话

But Kadar, which is a place a bit smaller than Beijing,

他一天可以看两三场

He can watch two to three shows in a day.

那么就给了他很多转场的这么一个机会

Then it gave him a lot of opportunities to transition.

对

Correct.

刘磊给我说他因为他在这待了很久了

Liu Lei told me that he has been here for a long time.

他开赛前一个东西一期就打不了

He won't be able to play anything before the match starts.

呃

Uh

他说他每最多一天看过三场

He said he has seen up to three shows in a day at most.

就是第一场看一半第二场看一半第三场可以看全场

You can watch half of the first game, half of the second game, and the whole third game.

嗯

Um.

这就是几天了

It's been a few days.

对我们提这么长时间

It's been such a long time for us to bring this up.

刘磊

Liu Lei

可能好多人不知道刘磊是谁

Many people may not know who Liu Lei is.

我们有些听众可能还真的不知道

Some of our listeners may really not know.

啊

Ah.

他就是我们国族在征战这个亚洲威

He is the embodiment of our nation's struggle against this Asian power.

哎

Sigh.

本亚洲区预选赛时

During this regional qualifying match

随对客场出征

Accompanying the expedition for the away game.

这个应该是我们主场是迪拜了

This should be our home ground, Dubai.

对吧

Right?

啊

Ah

客场出征阿联球

Away game against the UAE.

阿联球

Alley-oop ball

对对对

Yes, yes, yes.

对客场出征阿联球的那个中国球迷

The Chinese fan who went to support Yi Jianlian in the away game.

嗯

Hmm.

对

Correct.

他的他抖音还是微信的那个视频号叫什么

What is his Douyin or WeChat video account called?

呃

Uh.

跟着蕾子去看球吧

Let's go watch the game with Lei Zi.

是叫这个名字吧

Is it called this name?

好像是

It seems like it.

我忘了

I forgot.

哈哈哈哈

Hahaha

看一下

Take a look.

应该是这个吧

It should be this one, right?

跟着蕾子去看

Go with Reiko to take a look.

这是他微信的一个名字

This is one of his WeChat names.

对

Correct.

而且他之前

Moreover, he before.

对

Yes.

他之前是中国非常著名的这么一个球迷

He was previously a very famous football fan in China.

呃

Uh

也是之前咱们龙之队非常出名的一个球迷吧

He was also a very famous fan of our Dragon Team before.

基本上龙之队比赛他都会去看

Basically, he goes to watch the Dragon Team's matches.

对

Yes.

嗯

Hmm.

挺好的

Pretty good.

现在他也基本上定居在阿联球了

Now he has basically settled in the UAE.

嗯挺好的现在他也基本上定居在阿联球了

Um, that's pretty good. Now he has basically settled down in the UAE.

嗯

Uh-huh.

因为中途一直回不来嘛

Because I couldn't come back halfway.

一年两年回不来

It can't come back in a year or two.

干脆就在那边工作

Just work over there.

也不影响他做这个足球相关的一些内容

It also doesn't affect him doing some content related to football.

挺好的

Pretty good.

这次和他见了一面

I met him once this time.

嗯

Uh-huh.

哎呦

Oh dear.

呃

Uh

来到哪了

Where have we arrived?

聊到转场是吧

Talking about the transition, right?

转场

Scene transition

对

Yes.

对对对

Yes, yes, yes.

很多球迷转场也挺有意思的

Many fans switching venues is quite interesting.

那天就就当地在我们过去那个朋友

That day, we were at the place of our past friend.

哈哈

Haha

说他是谁呢

Who is he?

他们是卢塞尔球场的陈建芳

They are Chen Jianfang from Lusail Stadium.

啊

Ah

对很很很牛

Very very very awesome.

对很牛

Very impressive.

他给我讲了一下

He explained it to me.

对对对

Yes, yes, yes.

所以说网上不是在传断

So it's not that there's a rumor circulating online.

中国队说国家队没去都去了

The Chinese team said that even the national team didn't go, they all went.

确实是这样的

It is indeed the case.

卢塞尔球场是我们建的

The Lusail Stadium was built by us.

地铁是我们的

The subway is ours.

嗯

Hmm.

室内的很多通讯设施

Many communication facilities indoors.

包括球场内的一些通讯设施

Including some communication facilities within the stadium.

很多都是华为的

Many of them are from Huawei.

嗯

Hmm.

呃

Uh

卡道尔球场的空调大部分用的是格力的

The air conditioning in Cardale Stadium is mostly from Gree.

对对对

Yes, yes, yes.

所以确实中国去了很多

So indeed, a lot went to China.

就是国家队没去

It's just that the national team didn't go.

我们连黄牛都去了

We even went to the scalpers.

连黄牛都去了

Even the scalpers went.

我们连黄牛都去了

We even went to the scalpers.

就是没去

Just didn’t go.

刚才看到个突发性网刚刚刷到

I just saw a sudden trend online.

这个球王贝利的身体状态不太好

The physical condition of this football king, Pelé, is not very good.

进了高危病房

Entered the high-risk ward.

我也我也发了这个新闻

I also posted this news.

对前两天就说已经不太好了

It was already not very good a couple of days ago.

嗯

Hmm.

对

Correct.

嗯

Hmm.

,这个接着聊啊

Let's continue this conversation.

接着聊

Continue chatting.

嗯

Yeah.

剩下就转场转场去到卢塞尔那个球场

The rest is to move to the Lusail stadium.

那其实这次我觉得

Well, actually I feel this time that...

嗯

Hmm.

整个世界杯的氛围没有之前俄罗斯那么好

The atmosphere of the whole World Cup is not as good as it was in Russia before.

嗯

Hmm.

呃

Uh

有几点吧

There are a few points.

一个点是彪哥刚刚讲他就是中立球迷很多

One point is that Biao Ge just mentioned that he is a neutral fan, and there are many like him.

嗯

Hmm.

可能也有因为疫情或者种种关系吧

It may also be due to the pandemic or various other reasons.

或者是宗教的关系或者各种关系

Either related to religion or various other relationships.

包括刚才讲的价格关系

Including the price relationship mentioned earlier.

很多

A lot.

嗯

Hmm.

这个球迷他是没办法来到不光是中国球迷了

This fan has no way to come, not just for Chinese fans.

我觉得很多地方球迷还是没办法过来

I think there are still many places where fans can't come over.

导致有一些比赛的像我们那天看法国丹麦那样球的球迷氛围

This has resulted in a fan atmosphere in some matches that is similar to what we saw during the France-Denmark game that day.

这个现场氛围就很差

The atmosphere at this venue is very poor.

其实也是挺强两个球队了

In fact, both teams are quite strong.

而且也有球星啊

And there are also star players.

有姆巴佩

There is Mbappé.

嗯

Um.

这样的一些球星

Such stars in the sports world.

还有一个神啊

There is another god.

对吧

Right?

对对对

Yes, yes, yes.

然后转场到了卢塞尔看阿克廷这样球之后

Then it transitioned to Lussel watching Argentina play like this.

就确实那天我给乔哥发过说这挺让人震震喊的

Indeed, that day I told Brother Qiao that this is quite shocking.

就我还是看过很多现场看过很多比赛的

I've actually watched many live events and many matches.

但是那天那场球

But that game on that day

但我从来没看过两个南美不叫南美是吧

But I've never seen two South Americas that aren't called South America, right?

墨西哥还不是南美

Mexico is not South America yet.

拉美

Latin America

两个拉美地区的球队的比赛

Match between two teams from the Latin American region.

而且是两个强队

And they are two strong teams.

而且嗯

And um.

有梅西这样的

There are players like Messi.

怎么说

How to say?

就是有梅西的最后一届世界杯的这种这种加成在

This is enhanced by the fact that it is Messi's last World Cup.

比赛确实现场的这个

The competition is indeed at the scene.

嗯

Hmm.

氛围太让人过于震撼

The atmosphere is incredibly stunning.

震撼到让你会忽略了那天场上发生的

So shocking that it makes you overlook what happened on the field that day.

就是比赛足球场里面发生的一些

It is some incidents that happen on the football field during a match.

一些内容

Some content

反而场边的这个氛围会让你

On the contrary, the atmosphere on the sidelines will make you...

嗯

Hmm.

会记忆更深刻一些

It will be more memorable.

嗯

Hmm.

这可能是在现场球迷氛围

This may be the atmosphere of the fans on-site.

对对对

Right, right, right.

你在现场在转播里看不到

You can't see it at the scene or in the broadcast.

因为转播我那天回来我也看了一下转播

Because of the broadcast, I also watched the replay when I came back that day.

转播

Broadcast

因为

Because

呃

Uh.

球迷

Fan

就球迷背景的那个声量

The volume related to the background of the fans.

它总是固定的

It is always fixed.

它最大也就只能那么大

It can only be that big at most.

嗯

Hmm.

所以怎么说吧

So what should I say?

所以

So

嗯

Hmm.

我觉得

I think.

因为那天还带了几个就是第一次看球

Because that day I also brought a few who were watching a game for the first time.

第一次去现场看球的球迷

First-time fans watching a game on-site.

那个的朋友去看那样球

That friend's going to watch that kind of game.

嗯

Um.

呃

Uh

进场之前他倒是他们倒是没什么特别的感觉

Before entering, they actually didn't have any special feelings.

然后出场之后说哎

Then after the appearance, say "hey."

下一届美国世界杯我们一定得去

We must go to the next World Cup in the United States.

哈哈

Haha

这就是足球文化吧

This is football culture, isn't it?

其实就类似于

Actually, it is similar to.

嗯

Hmm.

去看一些呃演唱会

Go to see some concerts.

呃或者是对这种感觉就是当现场的氛围到了的时候

Uh, or it's that feeling when the atmosphere at the scene reaches a certain point.

你可能之前没那么喜欢这个

You might not have liked this as much before.

歌星

Singing star

对对对

Yes, yes, yes.

或者没那么喜欢这场球

Or maybe I'm not that into this game.

但是这个氛围会带动你整个人嗨起来

But this atmosphere can lift your spirits and get you excited.

这个也是现场看球的魅力吧

This is also the charm of watching a game live.

对

Yes.

而且我也理解了为什么南美足球和欧洲足球有这么大的一个差别

I also understand why there is such a big difference between South American football and European football.

和南美球员和欧洲球员的

With South American players and European players.

他的这个

His this.

嗯

Hmm.

文化也好还是他们的风格也好

Whether it's culture or their style.

会有这么大差别

There will be such a big difference.

因为你看到南美球迷和拉美球迷和欧洲球迷看球完全就是两码事情

Because watching a game with South American fans and Latin American fans is completely different from watching with European fans.

嗯

Um.

就就是有点冷静

Just a bit calm.

我是吧

I am, right?

对对对什么什么什么什么叫用生命在看球吗

Yes, yes, yes. What does it mean to watch a game with your life on the line?

嗯

Hmm.

这大家有机会真的可以去体验一下

Everyone really has the opportunity to experience this.

甚至我认为这

I even think this.

那没看过啊

I haven't seen that.

甚至我认为可能南美

I even think it might be South America.

的一些周期比赛的氛围

The atmosphere of some periodic competitions.

啊

Ah.

我现在敢比较肯定的说应该会远远超过所谓的什么西班牙国家得比啊

I can now say with considerable confidence that it should far exceed any so-called comparison with Spanish-speaking countries.

包括什么这个欧冠啊

What does this UEFA Champions League include?

包括包括什么英超的一些强量对话的这样的一个氛围

Including the atmosphere of strong dialogues in the Premier League.

因为太过于疯狂了

Because it was too crazy.

嗯

Hmm

这个我我没法描述

I can't describe this.

这个大家可能就去有机会的现场感受一下

Everyone might want to experience this in person when the opportunity arises.

这个现场感受也太过于正常了

The feeling on site is just too normal.

就确实让人觉得

It really makes one feel that way.

我觉得嗯怎么说

I think, um, how should I put it?

拉美球迷的狂热

The frenzy of Latin American fans.

以及现场的氛围吧

And the atmosphere on site.

感觉太太太太过于太过于狂热

It feels excessively, excessively, excessively enthusiastic.

甚至我我就这样举个打举个例子吧

Let me give an example like this.

我我这次这场球之前的上一次在现场看球是19年的国家得比

The last time I watched a match in person before this game was the national derby in 2019.

嗯

Hmm.

在诺坎普的那场国家得比

In that national derby at Camp Nou.

其实那场球已经的球迷的氛围已经算是比较高的了

Actually, the atmosphere among the fans during that match was already quite high.

因为当时有所谓的加泰努利亚的加泰公投的那个事儿

Because of the so-called Catalan referendum that happened at that time.

对对有那个事儿在那里

Yes, there is that matter there.

当时球迷的这个情绪已经很高了

At that time, the fans' mood was already very high.

但是如果那场比赛我们给他一个9分的话

But if we give him a 9 for that match, then...

可能这场比赛得到15分你知道吗

Did you know that you might get 15 points in this game?

就就这么夸张

It's just that exaggerated.

火爆天际

Exploding in the sky.

对对对就这么夸张

Yes, yes, yes, it's that exaggerated.

所以我现在不敢想一个事儿啊

So I don't dare to think about something right now.

嗯

Hmm.

现在这个小组赛结束了啊

The group stage has ended now.

目前看这个半区的分配

Currently looking at the allocation of this half-section.

巴西和阿根廷这两个对对对

Brazil and Argentina, these two pairs.

有一定概率半决赛上碰上的啊

There's a certain probability of encountering each other in the semifinals.

这个得多夸张这个现场

This scene must be very exaggerated.

对

Yes.

呃

Uh

这就是得两个拉美的强队相遇

This is where two strong teams from Latin America meet.

还得有超级球星

There also needs to be superstars.

还得还得还得一定得是在卢塞尔这种能做9万多人的体育场里

It must definitely be in a stadium like Lusail, which can accommodate over 90,000 people.

这几个条件同时达到就就我觉得很好

I think it would be great if these conditions are all met at the same time.

因为还还还还有一点为什么

Because there is still still still a little bit of why.

刚才为什么说欧洲队不行

Why did you say just now that the European team is not good?

这场比赛是没有中立球迷的你知道吗

Did you know that there are no neutral fans for this game?

就就是阿根廷墨西哥这场没有中立球迷

There are no neutral fans in this match between Argentina and Mexico.

首先一部分是墨西哥球迷对吧

First, a part of it is Mexican fans, right?

嗯

Hmm.

另一部分是阿根廷球迷

The other part is Argentine fans.

这个没有问题

This is not a problem.

剩下的都是梅西的球

The rest are all Messi's balls.

哈哈

Ha ha

那等于还是阿根廷球迷多很多啊

That means there are still a lot more Argentinian fans.

对他他没有中立球迷你知道吗

He doesn't have neutral fans, you know?

这场嗯

This game, um.

你想比如说是法国队阿根廷他有法国球迷有阿根廷球迷有梅西球迷

For example, the French team has French fans, the Argentine team has Argentine fans, and there are Messi fans.

还有部分中国球迷啊

There are still some Chinese fans.

还有一份中立球迷

There is also a neutral fan.

他没那么热烈

He is not that enthusiastic.

这场比赛就没有中立球迷的

There are no neutral fans in this match.

对

Correct.

没有那么贵这场

It's not that expensive this time.

对对对对

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

所以

So

嗯

Hmm.

这个这个很酷

This is really cool.

可能对

Maybe.

而且还有很关键的原因

And there is another very crucial reason.

是阿根廷第一场输了之后啊

It was after Argentina lost their first match.

这一场是阿根廷的生死战

This match is a do-or-die battle for Argentina.

对对对

Exactly, exactly.

嗯

Hmm.

如果阿根廷这场再也没有获胜

If Argentina never wins again in this match.

他的世界杯出现就有困难了

His appearance at the World Cup was already difficult.

所以如果阿根廷第一场比赛赢的话

So if Argentina wins the first match,

我相信这个氛围也没有到这个分

I believe this atmosphere hasn't reached that point either.

对

Yes.

所以

So

刚刚朴哥说嘛

Just now, Brother Park said.

可能下一场世界杯能有这么火爆的氛围的话

If the next World Cup can have such a vibrant atmosphere, then...

那就只能是阿根廷碰到巴西这样的比赛了

Then it can only be a match between Argentina and Brazil.

我负责任的说

I can responsibly say.

如果决赛是两个欧洲球队

If the final is between two European teams.

或者说是一个欧洲球队

Or it could be a European team.

一个别的州的球队的话

A team from another state.

不会有这么热烈的一个氛围

There won't be such a热烈的 atmosphere.

等于我们之前上线看过

It means we have seen it online before.

两个都是欧洲球迷的半截赛

Both are half matches for European fans.

其实还挺安静的

Actually, it's quite quiet.

甚至还没有印度哥们开

Not even as open as the Indian guys.

对一个是欧洲球迷他很安静

For a European football fan, he is very quiet.

第二是中立球迷很多

Secondly, there are many neutral fans.

哪怕是决赛

Even if it's the final.

甚至决赛中立球迷会更多

Even in the finals, there will be more neutral fans.

对因为好多凑热闹的会过去

Many people will eventually leave because they are just joining in for the fun.

对对对

Yes, yes, yes.

现在决赛球票一场一等票

The tickets for the final match are first-class tickets for one game.

你炒到多少钱

How much did you stir-fry to?

炒到20多万了

It's risen to over 200,000.

20多万

over 200,000

人民币是吧

Is it the Renminbi?

人民币

Renminbi

3万美金

30,000 US dollars

确实有点贵

It is indeed a bit expensive.

官方票价可能1500美金

The official ticket price may be 1500 USD.

到2000美金之间

Between 2000 and 3000 US dollars.

对

Correct.

具体那辆球就没啥好给大家聊了

There's really nothing much to discuss about that specific ball.

反正阿根廷踢的不咋地

Anyway, Argentina's performance isn't that great.

这个阿根廷具体能走多远

How far can this Argentina really go?

确实不咋地

It's really not that great.

对对

Yes, yes.

比赛我们一会儿再聊吧

Let's talk about the game later.

我看还有什么场边的

I see what else is on the sidelines.

然后就散场嘛

Then it just ended.

散场9万多人

More than 90,000 people at the end of the event.

我们花了大概3个多小时

We spent about 3 hours or so.

才从球场回到了酒店

Just returned to the hotel from the court.

就没办法

There is no way.

因为你必须得坐地铁

Because you have to take the subway.

你9万多人只有一条地铁

You have only one subway for more than 90,000 people.

那个地铁线你就一直在那排队呗

You just have to keep lining up at that subway line.

但整个秩序还是挺好的

But the overall order is still quite good.

这点比较好的是

The good thing about this is that

卡塔尔这次投入了

Qatar has invested this time.

就怎么讲

Just how to say it.

我觉得叫做

I think it should be called

投入了海量的工作人员

A large number of staff have been投入.

就是他基本上可以做到每10米一个工作人员

It means he can basically employ one staff member every 10 meters.

这个安保的人员

This security personnel.

就从体育场出门到地铁站

Just go from the stadium to the subway station.

这可能两三公里的距离

This distance may be two to three kilometers.

他可以每10米安排一到两个工作人员

He can arrange one to two staff members every 10 meters.

工作人员都是哪的人呢

What place are the staff from?

肯定不会是当地人

Definitely won't be a local.

不是

No.

一看就是来自于非洲的

At a glance, it's clearly from Africa.

非洲大陆

African continent

非洲和南亚的

Africa and South Asia's

这点好

This is good.

反正有钱嘛

Anyway, there's money.

对吧

Right?

而且南亚的工作人员英语还可以

Moreover, the staff in South Asia can speak English reasonably well.

所以沟通起来轻松一些

So it's easier to communicate.

安排了海量的工作人员来维持秩序

A large number of staff have been arranged to maintain order.

倒是秩序还是很不错的

The order is actually quite good.

就是很累

I'm just very tired.

因为确实交通方式太过于太少

Because there are indeed too few modes of transportation.

不是太少

Not too little.

那个国家本身

That country itself.

他就不太需要公共交通情况下

He doesn't really need public transportation in that situation.

他重建一个公共交通

He is rebuilding public transportation.

而且是个临时性质的

And it is of a temporary nature.

我是觉得不好在意料之中

I think it's not good to be taken for granted.

好了才真的是意外惊喜

It's truly a surprising delight when it's finally ready.

我就问他们当地的司机

I just asked the local drivers.

我说地铁有啥用

I said, what's the use of the subway?

他说地铁我们一般人是不太会去坐的

He said that ordinary people don't usually take the subway.

因为他说基本上在他们的地方

Because he said that basically in their place

家里多少人就多少台车

The number of cars at home is equal to the number of people.

而且开车就很方便了

It's very convenient to drive.

不会有人会考虑去坐地铁这个东西的

No one would consider taking something like the subway.

所以基本上就是

So basically it is

那个城市才300万人嘛

That city only has 3 million people.

那个国家

That country.

对

Yes.

然后路又很宽

Then the road is very wide.

又平坦

Flat again.

没有坐地铁的需求

There is no need to take the subway.

纯是为了事业杯

Purely for the sake of the business cup.

当然明年还有亚洲杯

Of course, there is the Asian Cup next year.

亚洲杯还是能够用上

The Asian Cup can still be used.

而且这次的很多球场也是临时性质的

Moreover, many of the stadiums this time are temporary in nature.

像刚刚说的

As mentioned just now.

937就是吗

Is it 937?

对

Correct.

974

974

974对

974 pairs

974

974

包括还有几个球场都是临时的

There are also several temporary courts.

就用完之后会

It will be used up afterwards.

给它拆掉

Take it apart.

用作一些慈善

Used for some charity.

或者说公共性质的一些使用

Or some uses of a public nature.

反正花钱的事情

Anyway, it's a matter of spending money.

我觉得他们还是很大方的

I think they are still very generous.

已经对吧

Already, right?

2000多亿都花了

Over 200 billion has been spent.

而且确实大家问球场里热不热

And indeed, everyone asks whether it is hot in the stadium.

确实不热

It's indeed not hot.

267度

267 degrees

当然也没有网上传的

Of course, it's not what is being circulated online.

那么什么球场里面要穿羽绒服这种说法

So what does it mean to wear a down jacket inside a stadium?

也没有

Neither is there.

267度

267 degrees

还非常合适踢球的

It's also very suitable for playing football.

有问题

There is a problem.

另外就是疫情

In addition, there is the pandemic.

疫情管控就没有管控

There is no control without pandemic management.

为什么巴西队说全队已经感冒了

Why did the Brazilian team say that the whole team has caught a cold?

因为确实在大地是没有任何

Because there is indeed nothing on the earth.

对新冠疫情的一个限制的一个措施的

A measure to restrict the COVID-19 pandemic.

这很正常

This is very normal.

因为目前来讲

Because at the moment

我们国内现在也在逐渐的放开这个事

We are gradually relaxing this matter domestically now.

不细聊

Not going into detail.

反正没啥事

Anyway, there's nothing much going on.

没啥大事

Nothing big happened.

反正没啥事

Anyway, there's nothing much happening.

对过两天就好了

It will be fine in a couple of days.

对三五天就没啥感觉了

After three to five days, there’s really no feeling left.

还有一点我觉得想聊一下的是

There's one more thing I would like to talk about.

我刚说这次世界杯的氛围其实没那么好

I just said that the atmosphere of this World Cup is not that great.

为什么

Why?

到了之后第一天晚上我就说

On the first night after I arrived, I said...

第一天晚上是哪的球

Which ball is it on the first night?

英格兰对美国

England vs. America

我说也没票

I said there are no tickets.

没票去哪了

Where did you go without a ticket?

我说去这个叫什么球迷广场呗

I said to go to this place called Fan Square.

嗯

Hmm.

对吧

Right?

我说球迷广场

I said the fan square.

因为之前在俄罗斯的时候

Because I was in Russia before.

稍微知道是一个城市一个球迷广场

I know a little about a city fan square.

大家去那看球

Everyone is going there to watch the game.

这次多哈就一个球迷广场

This time, there is only one fan square in Doha.

我想一个球迷广场那得多大

I wonder how big a fan square would have to be.

对吧

Right?

而且所有来的球迷没票的

And all the fans who came did not have tickets.

他只能去那看球

He can only go there to watch the game.

结果就抱着很大的希望过去

As a result, I went there with great hope.

过去之后发现

Realizing after the past.

气氛很平淡

The atmosphere is very bland.

非常平淡

Very bland.

人是不少

There are quite a few people.

但是就不嗨你知道吗

But it's not exciting, you know?

就整个氛围不嗨

The overall atmosphere is not lively.

嗯

Hmm.

导致为啥

Why does it lead to this?

你知道为啥吗

Do you know why?

为啥

Why?

一个很大原因可能是因为没有酒

One big reason might be because there is no alcohol.

对那天我也和他们当地的司机两人

That day, I was also with their local driver.

对没有酒

No alcohol.

我当时去之前跟我说

They told me before I went.

那里可能有酒

There might be alcohol there.

那里可以喝酒

Where can I drink?

我就去我就去买饮料

I'll go buy some drinks.

我就说买看有没有啤酒

I just said I'd buy to see if there is beer.

因为我们一行七八个人

Because there are seven or eight of us.

嗯

Hmm.

反正据说的这个所谓的啤酒

Anyway, this so-called beer that is said to be...

我是在所有的这个比赛场所是一次没买到

I haven't been able to buy anything at any of these competition venues.

他们跟我说有

They told me there is.

但是我一次没买到

But I haven't been able to buy it even once.

唯一我能买到的接近啤酒的

The only thing I can buy that's close to beer.

就是那个五酒精的那个百威

It's that Budweiser with five alcohol content.

啊

Ah

对百威好像是提供了五酒精的

It seems that Budweiser has offered a five-alcohol option.

其他时间

Other times

呃这个含酒精的啤酒

Uh, this beer contains alcohol.

这次也是不允许买

This time buying is also not permitted.

都跟我说能买的

They all told me that it can be bought.

但是我不管在球场也好

But whether I'm on the court or not

球迷广场也好

Fan square is good too.

很多次

Many times.

我就从来没买到过

I have never been able to buy it.

最多就能买到这个

You can only buy this at most.

还有可乐就没了

There is only cola left, and that's it.

还有矿泉水就没了

There's still mineral water, but that's it.

就没了这三这三个东西

Then there are no longer these three things.

还有点零食吃的东西

There are still some snacks to eat.

嗯

Hmm.

而且大家知道

Moreover, everyone knows.

因为这个宗教的原因

Because of this religion.

你在全市的任何餐厅除了五星级酒店的

You can choose any restaurant in the city except for five-star hotels.

呃

Uh

酒廊里面

Inside the lounge.

嗯

Hmm.

是都没有酒卖的

There is no wine for sale at all.

对

Yes.

所以所以这边可能可能也是跟这个原因相关吧

So this might also be related to this reason.

包括你在那个在那个怎么讲

Including you in that, how to put it?

呃在这个球迷中心二眼都买不到啤酒的话

Um, if you can't even buy beer at this fan center...

所以这次百威本身作为赞助商意见也很大吧

So this time Budweiser itself must have had a significant say as a sponsor, right?

嗯

Hmm.

谁为钱也抗议

Who protests for money as well?

但是最终国内选择了尊重当地的文化

But in the end, the country chose to respect the local culture.

呃所以我觉得这也是一个因素之一

Uh, so I think this is also one of the factors.

就是呃过于冷静了这边

It's just that they are being overly calm on this side.

嗯

Hmm.

对第二个因素可能就是因为当地的这个宗教也好吧

The second factor might be related to the local religion.

我觉得很多球迷还是很克制的

I think many fans are still very restrained.

就是不不不不不敢放肆

Just don't, don't, don't, don't dare to be reckless.

呵呵

Hehe.

真的是我不太敢放肆

I really don't dare to be too reckless.

所以就整个场外氛围真的没那么好

So the overall atmosphere outside the venue really isn't that good.

真的没那么好

It's really not that good.

嗯

Hmm.

再加上我本以为这么大一个球迷广场啊

Moreover, I thought such a large fan square would...

你想想嗯

Think about it, hmm.

嗯

Hmm.

不得有个每天有个五六万人

There must be about fifty or sixty thousand people every day.

七八万人

Seventy to eighty thousand people.

哈哈哈

Haha!

对啊

That's right.

我去看看球

I'll go take a look at the ball.

嗯

Hmm.

对结果发现人可能有个一两万的

It turns out that there may be one or two tens of thousands of people.

或者大几千的

Or several thousand more.

嗯

Hmm.

但是真的就是没啥氛围

But there really isn't much of an atmosphere.

呃

Uh

嗯

Hmm.

大家反正在坐那看看球

Everyone is just sitting there watching the game.

看完之后就自己就就离开买点纪念品自己就就离开

After watching, just leave by yourself to buy some souvenirs and then leave by yourself.

嗯

Hmm.

包在街上

Package on the street.

嗯

Hmm.

整个感觉都很冷静你知道吗

The overall feeling is very calm, you know?

就就就没有感觉这个城市因为视野边而变得有多嘈杂

I just don't feel that this city has become noisy because of the edge of the view.

或者变得有多么的充满

Or become as filled as possible.

充满热情

Filled with enthusiasm

没有

None.

啊对还有个问题就是当地人

Ah, there's still one more question, which is about the locals.

就是当地的呃呃居民

It is the local, uh, residents.

我能够看到的对待这个事情也很冷静

I can see that the attitude towards this matter is also very calm.

嗯

Hmm.

可能当地我不知道啊因为我这这是宗教问题啊

I might not know about the local situation because this is a religious issue for me.

可能当地的很多女性我们在街上是看不到的对吧

Many women in the local area might not be seen on the streets, right?

啊对那肯定了

Ah, that's definitely the case.

对对你就少了很多人你能看到人的一个机会还剩下一些当地的人就整个都很冷静

You have lost many people, and you still have a chance to see some locals, but everyone is quite calm.

没有特别强烈的一个氛围

There isn't a particularly strong atmosphere.

所以这就我觉得是这是视野被要让人失望的一个地方

So I think this is a place where the expectations are likely to be disappointing.

但没办法这个你在选择了这样一个地方选择这样一个时间和这样一个国家

But there's no way around it; you chose such a place, such a time, and such a country.

对

Correct.

就是就是这个呀

That's exactly it!

所以所以这些视野被也会产生这样的问题吧

So, these perspectives might also create such problems, right?

包括球场氛围也等等

Including the atmosphere of the stadium and so on.

嗯对

Yeah, that's right.

说说到周边的环境那卡纳尔这个国家因为你也去了对吧

Speaking of the surrounding environment, you have been to the country of Canal, right?

嗯

Hmm.

这个国家呃从氛围包括从我们的周边的环境

This country, uh, includes the atmosphere from our surrounding environment.

那么你感受一下这次世界杯

So how do you feel about this World Cup?

因为现在没有进到淘汰赛阶段啊还是小组赛

Because we haven't reached the knockout stage yet, we're still in the group stage.

嗯

Hmm.

进了淘汰赛阶段之后会不会好一点点

Will it get a little better after entering the knockout stage?

因为毕竟现在很多人呢

Because after all, many people now...

因为毕竟现在很多人呃

Because after all, many people now...

特别是石榴强已经出来之后

Especially after the pomegranate strong has come out.

呃马上进入巴金斯半决赛

Uh, we are about to enter the semifinals of Barkins.

肯定会有很多的明星名人一起一起过去啊

There will definitely be many celebrities going together.

包括我们这个小组赛也能看到很多的球队的民宿啊

Including our group stage, we can also see many teams' homestays.

一部分明星也会去看球

Some celebrities also go to watch the games.

之后进了半决赛决赛会不会人会多一点点呢

Will there be a few more people in the semifinals and finals afterwards?

呃

Uh

我问了一下黄牛啊

I asked a scalper.

就是我们中国的黄牛

It is the scalper in China.

他们比较了解这个市场动动态吧

They have a better understanding of the market dynamics, right?

呃他们告诉我第一个高峰就是

Uh, they told me the first peak is...

呃来人的高就是球迷进入卡塔尔的高峰就是

The peak of fans entering Qatar is...

就是阿根廷对墨西哥那场比赛之前的两天

It was two days before the match between Argentina and Mexico.

啊

Ah.

应该很多人就冲着没心的要求来的

Many people probably came for the request for a carefree attitude.

对

Correct.

这是第一个高峰

This is the first peak.

然后完了结束之后28 9号就大部分人开始走

Then, after it was over, most people began to leave on the 28th or 29th.

开始离开就是小组赛看

Starting to leave means watching the group stage.

可能他们是看小组赛第一个阶段的这部分人就走了

Maybe they left after watching the first phase of the group stage.

第二部分人来的高峰呢就是小组赛最后一轮开始开始的那段时间

The peak of people coming in the second part is during the time when the final round of the group stage begins.

也就是就前两天吧

It was just a couple of days ago.

11月底11月30号12月1号那个时间

The time around the end of November, November 30th, and December 1st.

啊

Ah.

然后到下一个他说来人的高峰应该就是半决赛之前了

Then the next peak for people coming should be just before the semi-finals.

四分之一决赛半决赛四分之一决赛半决赛

Quarter-finals semi-finals quarter-finals semi-finals

呃我现在在思考如果阿根廷和巴西能够碰得上在半决赛的话

Uh, I'm currently thinking about if Argentina and Brazil could meet in the semifinals.

是不是想办法能不能搞到一张票

Is there a way to get a ticket?

或者说现在去买一张半决赛的票放那

Or say to go buy a ticket for the semifinals and put it there.

对现在去买一张半决赛票放那是合理的

It makes sense to buy a semifinal ticket now and set it aside.

如果真的这两个半决赛碰上了

If these two semifinals really clash.

你知道这个价钱值吗

Do you know if this price is worth it?

这得多少

How much does this cost?

特别是发现罗哥在下半决赛

Especially discovered Roger in the semifinals.

如果今年的决赛是葡萄牙对阿根廷

If this year's final is Portugal against Argentina.

你知道今年的决赛得多高杂吗

Do you know how high the finals will be this year?

对对对

Yes, yes, yes.

这个阿根廷这个状态应该到不了决赛

Argentina in this state shouldn't make it to the finals.

哈哈

Haha

啊

Ah

这个好在签好

This is good for signing.

好在签好

Good that it's signed.

这个半局八八强应该是能保住了的感觉

It feels like this half-match of the top eight should be safe now.

呃但这是日本球没有看到不下

Uh, but this is a Japanese ball that you won't see anywhere else.

日本韩国球没有看到不下

I didn't see the Japanese and Korean balls.

呃

Uh

对吧

Right?

对对对一个主队争气吧

Yes, yes, yes, let the home team do their best!

而第二个是我懂吗

And the second one is, do I understand?

可能还是经经济条件好吧

It might still be due to better economic conditions.

哈哈哈哈

Hahaha

这日本球迷这日本球迷真的有不少

There are indeed quite a few Japanese fans.

嗯

Hmm.

应该是我看到的东亚面孔里面

It should be among the East Asian faces that I see.

就最多的就是日本然后是韩国

The most is Japan, followed by South Korea.

然后是可能才是中国中国就很少

Then it is possible that China is very few.

日本球迷非常多

There are many Japanese fans.

嗯

Hmm.

是不是有可能

Is it possible?

嗯

Hmm.

这次日本队能够走的更远一些

This time the Japanese team can go a bit further.

能够更远一点

Can go a little further.

对因为那天看了一下

I looked at it that day.

我觉得克罗地亚日本也不是搞不定的吧

I don't think Croatia and Japan are that hard to handle, right?

搞定克罗地亚之后

After dealing with Croatia

嗯

Um.

对吧

Right?

下一场可能就碰个巴西

The next match might be against Brazil.

对这个巴西现在也也也没那么那个啥

There's not much of that in Brazil now either.

巴西全部全队都感染了嘛

Is the entire Brazilian team infected?

对而且关键伤了很多啊

Yes, and it has caused a lot of harm.

热热出师还有那个编后卫

Rehe is going to battle, and there's also that backup defender.

那个特莱斯都已经这件事也被打不了了

That trellis has already been unable to handle this matter.

已经宣布了

It has already been announced.

然后内玛尔还有伤

Then Neymar is also injured.

对所以我觉得日本搞不好能走到更

So I think Japan might be able to go even further.

然后你说出去之后碰个如果是碰个安亭队

Then you say if you run into an Anting team after going out.

日本就安亭队的状态

The state of the Anting team in Japan.

你觉得日本也不一定

You might not necessarily think of Japan either.

对吧

Right?

不一定

Not necessarily.

这个有点有点这个足球小项梦提前实现了

This little football dream has been realized a bit earlier.

这个感觉

This feeling.

但但在这个世界杯之前谁敢想日本能赢西班牙和德国

But before this World Cup, who would have thought Japan could defeat Spain and Germany?

对但也不敢想这个日本竟然输给了德国大家

But I also can't believe that Japan actually lost to Germany.

所以对

So yes.

没人敢想日本咱们在设备前啊咱俩在聊的时候还说我们支持日本队

No one could imagine that we were in front of the equipment in Japan, and while we were chatting, we said we supported the Japanese team.

我们也没敢想日本能小组第一出现在这个组

We didn't dare to think that Japan could come first in this group.

对在这个组里面

In this group.

当时说的是日本能干掉德国西班牙其中一个挤掉一个

At that time, it was said that Japan could take down either Germany or Spain, pushing one of them out.

然后小组第二小组第二对出现打个比利时啊或或许还有机会

Then the second group has a chance to appear in Belgium, or perhaps there is still hope.

对对对结果比利时也不在了

That's right, Belgium is also out now.

对结果比利时也不在打上了年迈的克罗地亚

Belgium is also no longer competing against the aging Croatia in the results.

我突然间

I suddenly

对对对没想到日本去了上半区你知道吗

Yes, yes, yes, I didn't expect Japan to go to the upper half, did you know that?

嗯

Um.

然后日本去了上半区之后再一看这个前卫哇塞

Then after Japan went to the upper half, they looked at this forward and were amazed.

八强打八七上届世界杯我们没有完成看到的比赛

In the quarter-finals, we did not complete the matches we saw in the last World Cup.

这届搞不好这个对能看到了

This session might not be able to see this.

嗯

Hmm.

还有一个话题啊就是

There's another topic to discuss, which is...

嗯

Hmm.

这就是那天刚刚乔哥问我卡塔尔的一个问题就是

This is the question that Brother Qiao just asked me about Qatar that day.

嗯

Hmm.

我觉得是还刚刚聊到本地本地的居民就本地的居民好像对足球没有那么的热爱

I think we just talked about the local residents, and it seems that the local residents are not as passionate about football.

嗯

Hmm.

就卡塔尔人

It's about the Qataris.

卡塔尔人对足球没有那么的热爱

Qataris do not have such a strong passion for football.

因为

Because

呃

Uh

和很多司机啊

And many drivers.

工作人员啊

Staff member.

就

Just.

安厅酒店的一些服务人员在聊这个事情的时候他们确实不太对足球这个事情有太太多的一个兴趣

Some of the staff at the hotel were talking about this matter, and they really don't have much interest in football.

嗯

Hmm.

我个人认为有有很大几个原因在啊

I personally believe there are several significant reasons.

呃一个是卡塔尔的这个人口组成

Uh, one is the demographic composition of Qatar.

卡塔尔这个不到300万人里面啊大量的是印巴和东南亚对印巴印巴

In Qatar, which has a population of less than 3 million, there are a large number of people from India, Pakistan, and Southeast Asia.

对他们这会是谋生的

This will be a means of survival for them.

对印巴和东南亚一本身那个地方就没有什么足球氛围

There is not much of a football atmosphere in the regions of India, Pakistan, and Southeast Asia itself.

对你搞个板球搞不好还更受欢迎一些

It might be more popular to get a cricket for you.

对对他本身就没什么足球氛围

There isn't really any football atmosphere for him to begin with.

第二卡塔尔本地人才多少才才三十几万吧

The number of local talents in Qatar is only over 300,000, right?

那三十几万本地人

Those over 300,000 local people.

你一方面你知道这个足球其实本质上是工人阶层

On one hand, you know that this football is essentially the working class.

嗯

Hmm.

这个这个最喜欢的运动之一

This is one of my favorite sports.

对

Yes.

而那卡塔尔本地这些人你知道这个每个月3万多美金的

And those local people in Qatar, you know they earn over 30,000 USD a month.

这个显然也不会太喜欢对这个这个这个足球这项运动

This obviously won't like this this this sport of football too much.

嗯

Hmm.

你再看卡塔尔国家队的组成对吧

You look at the composition of the Qatar national team again, right?

卡塔尔国家队里面又没多少本地人

There aren't many locals in the Qatar national team.

对

Correct.

阿斯比尔全球区对北非阿拉伯地区是有很多

The Aspial Global Zone has many connections to the Arab region of North Africa.

他本地人不多他不像沙特沙特国家队基本都是

He is not a local; unlike Saudi Arabia, the national team there is mostly filled with local players.

但是这个卡塔尔这个地方本身也国家队也没有多少本地人

However, there aren't many locals in the Qatar national team or in the place itself.

这300多万居民里面也没有多少对足球狂热的这个粉丝

Among these more than 3 million residents, there aren't many fans who are crazy about football.

本身南亚对足球也没什么感觉

South Asia itself doesn't have much feeling for football.

外加他的高层队足球没有感觉

In addition, he has no feeling for high-level football.

所以他当地的足球氛围不强

So the local football atmosphere is not strong.

我觉得是也是正常的

I think it's normal.

对

Correct.

反正足球场是建的多

Anyway, there are many football fields built.

这个毕竟是毕竟是富有啊

After all, this is wealth.

足球场确实真的建了很多

Many football fields have indeed been built.

因为大家知道在那个地方养护一个

Because everyone knows that maintaining one in that place...

我说是天然草的足球场

I said it is a natural grass soccer field.

就真的草的足球场

It's really a grass football field.

包括社区啊

Including the community.

我看都有

I see that there is everything.

那个地方建个足球场可不是一个便宜的事情

Building a football field in that place is not a cheap matter.

反正足球场确实建了很多

Anyway, many football fields have indeed been built.

嗯

Hmm.

但是感觉反正本地的居民对足球并没有那么的大的热情

But it seems that the local residents don't have that much enthusiasm for football anyway.

这可能也是为什么卡塔尔

This might also be why Qatar.

他在申办下世界杯之后

After he applied to host the World Cup.

这么长的一个足球投入的一个计划

A long-term plan invested in football.

但是最终到了这届世界杯上

But ultimately, it came to this World Cup.

在竞技成绩上没有取得一个非常好的一个结果的一个原因吧

One reason for not achieving a very good competitive result.

嗯

Hmm.

对

Yes.

但是整个世界杯我觉得还是办的真的还行

However, I think the entire World Cup has been organized quite well.

没毛病的硬件

Flawless hardware.

没毛病

No problem.

对对对

Exactly, exactly.

包括他新翻新的他的这个

Including his newly renovated one.

机场也是世界顶级的一个这样一个水准吧

The airport is also at a world-class level.

毕竟毕竟我们这种基建国家

After all, we are a country focused on infrastructure.

只要卡塔尔钱给够

As long as Qatar pays enough money.

应该能给建的漂漂亮亮

It should be able to make the construction look beautiful.

没问题啊

No problem.

对

Yes.

额卢塞尔

Elusir

卢塞尔那个球场真的推荐大家

I really recommend the Lusail Stadium to everyone.

可以去有机会

You can go if there is an opportunity.

比如明年亚洲杯应该卢塞尔还会用

For example, Lusail should still be used for the Asian Cup next year.

大家可以去看一下

Everyone can take a look.

那个球场真的建的

That stadium has really been built.

对建的很非常的漂亮

Very beautifully built.

而且9万多人的一个机场

An airport with more than 90,000 people.

9万多人的一个巨大的一个球场

A huge stadium with more than 90,000 people.

整个设施都非常不错

The entire facility is very good.

包括球场里的氛围也不错

The atmosphere on the court is also quite good.

那也是我们卢塞尔是由中国团队全100%承包的一个一个赛场

That venue in Lusail is entirely contracted by a Chinese team, 100%.

对呃

Uh, right.

中我看是中铁建的嘛

I think it's China Railway Construction.

所以对对对

So right, right, right.

嗯

Hmm.

所以所以我觉得只有建筑设计不是我们做的结构设计到到成建都是中国做的

So I believe that only architectural design is not what we do; the structural design and construction are all done by China.

包括里面的设施设备很多都是中国的

Many of the facilities and equipment inside are from China.

这个还是挺自豪的

This is still quite a source of pride.

嗯

Hmm.

确实

Indeed.

哎

Sigh.

不过说实话

But to be honest

你感觉那一场比赛有这么嗨啊

Why did you feel that match was so exciting?

嗯

Hmm.

有一个很重要的原因是因为这场球是世界杯有史以来小组赛进入球迷最多的比赛

One very important reason is that this match has the highest number of fans attending a group stage game in World Cup history.

进了将近9万人

Nearly 90,000 people entered.

88000人

88,000 people

对

Yes.

有史以来的最多的是这个94年世界杯决赛美国嘛

The most in history is the 1994 World Cup final in the United States.

美国的那个美国馆进了9万9万1

The American Pavilion in the U.S. has received 99,091 visitors.

然后这场比赛就是达到了卢塞尔球场的上线人数

Then this match reached the maximum capacity of Lusail Stadium.

8万8万9千人

88,000 89,000 people

这就是卢塞尔能够承接的最高的球迷人数了

This is the highest number of fans that Lucerne can accommodate.

那天不是我在后来在社交媒体上看见好多人

That day I saw many people later on social media.

好多中国的一些博主进去之后说什么

Many Chinese bloggers say something after entering.

呃

Uh

那个叫什么票票呃

What is that called, ticket?

作为人

As a person

作为人站了

As a person stood.

然后

Then

还有什么

What else?

反正很多

Anyway, there are a lot.

我看到好多博主都去了那那天这场球

I saw many bloggers went to that game that day.

嗯

Hmm.

呃

Uh.

都在我们那那半了

They are all in our half.

因为那半了是同一个同一个赞助商的票的渠道

Because that half was from the same sponsor's ticket channel.

大部分中国人买的票都在那半了

Most of the tickets purchased by Chinese people are sold out.

嗯

Hmm.

呃

Uh.

但我周边也看到好好多好多好多好多中国人

But I also see many, many, many, many Chinese people around me.

嗯

Hmm.

怎么说

How to say it?

反正那样球确实我觉得搞不好就是这些世界杯最最

Anyway, I really feel that such a ball might mess up the World Cup the most.

氛围最好的一场

The best atmosphere event.

不一定后面还有比这场球氛围更好

There may not be a better atmosphere than this game in the future.

嗯

Hmm.

国内啥情况啊

What's the situation in the country?

这个国内世界杯转播除了说不切看台以外啊

This domestic World Cup broadcast, apart from saying it won't cut to the stands, ah...

哎

Sigh.

切看台谁说不切看台了

Who says we won't cut the viewing platform?

就能看到很多迷你球迷也一类的

You can see a lot of mini fans and the like.

没问题

No problem.

现在又切了

Now it has been cut again.

我觉得问题在于国内世界杯这次因为大家众所周知的一些原因啊

I think the problem lies in the fact that the domestic World Cup this time, due to some reasons well known to everyone...

呃

Uh

大家都在家里看球啊

Everyone is watching the game at home.

嗯

Hmm.

你说氛围当然不如出去约了几个哥们吃点东西啊

You say the atmosphere is definitely not as good as going out with a few buddies to eat something.

如果说啊

If we say...

这个天气吃个火锅

This weather is perfect for having hot pot.

看个球

Watch a game.

嗯

Hmm.

喝点啤酒来的嗨

Drinking some beer makes it fun.

但是

But

嗯

Hmm.

呃

Uh

我是觉得这一切因为抖音拿到了世界杯的这个转播权

I think all of this is because Douyin acquired the broadcasting rights for the World Cup.

嗯

Hmm.

所以在短视频平台上面呃很火爆

So it is very popular on short video platforms.

对

Correct.

嗯

Um.

呃这个传播度热度是非常高的

Uh, the spread and popularity of this are very high.

像我家特别是在中老年人群体里面之前我们还聊到我说欧洲杯没氛围

Like in my family, especially among the middle-aged and elderly groups, we previously talked about how there isn't much atmosphere during the European Cup.

18年世界杯了

It's the 2018 World Cup.

那时候刚刚兴起吧

It was just starting at that time, right?

呃

Uh

还没有说那么大的影响力

Not yet mentioned such a great influence.

现在呃抖音的影响力非常是强

Now, the influence of Douyin is very strong.

而且我拿抖音看了一下

Moreover, I took a look at Douyin.

抖音给的那个4k的信号也确实不错

The 4K signal provided by Douyin is indeed quite good.

而且还免费

And it's free.

嗯

Hmm.

所以呃这就是也被因为有抖音的存在

So, uh, this is also because of the existence of Douyin.

我觉得在大量的这个中年人以上的群体呃这个氛围还是很足的

I feel that there is still a strong atmosphere among a large group of middle-aged people and above.

呃本身他们也不太会出去看球

Uh, they themselves don't really go out to watch the game either.

但是呃我们所在的城市呢

But, um, the city we are in...

呃我们所在的城市

Uh, the city we are in.

只要我所在城市现在还没有开堂时

As long as there are no sessions held in my city yet.

这些你所谓的能看球的地儿都没开

The places you mentioned for watching the game are all closed.

嗯

Hmm.

社会层面的这种氛围感受不到

The feeling of this atmosphere on a social level cannot be sensed.

感受不到

Can't feel it.

嗯

Um.

我觉得我我这几天看转播

I think I've been watching broadcasts these past few days.

我用的是我用的是咪咕

I am using Migu.

对我已经看的是咪咕

What I've already watched is Migu.

嗯

Um.

确实反正整个节目质量也很一般

The overall quality of the entire show is indeed quite mediocre.

说实话

To be honest

呃对

Uh, right.

而且这次也因为比赛这个太紧凑了嘛

Moreover, this time the competition was too tight.

一天四场球

Four matches a day.

嗯

Hmm.

豪门盛宴等等这些这些节目

Luxurious banquets and other such programs.

我们看了很多年的这样的节目都没有了

We haven't had these kinds of shows for many years.

然后外加上呃众所周知的原因

Then adding, um, the reasons that are well known.

呃包括咪咕给的王牌解说

Uh, including the ace commentary given by Migu.

这个占据张璐指导这样的解说组合

This occupies a commentary combination like Zhang Lu's guidance.

嗯

Uh-huh.

说没说几场球

Did you say how many games you played?

对吧

Right?

对

Correct.

确实

Indeed.

最后聊最后聊一个话题啊

Lastly, let's talk about one more topic.

最后聊一个话题

Let's talk about one last topic.

把比赛开始了

The game has started.

聊一聊这个这几天没站起来

Let’s talk about how I haven’t gotten up these past few days.

讨论很多的vr这个话题

Discussing the topic of VR a lot.

哎

Sigh.

可以

Sure.

对啊

Yes.

这个话题

This topic

呃

Uh

之前我们好像聊过是吧

It seems like we have talked before, right?

聊过

Talked about it.

对

Correct.

我说我是不太喜欢这个东西的

I said I don't really like this thing.

现在这件事也为之后

Now this matter will also be for the future.

我更更不喜欢更不喜欢

I like it even less.

更不喜欢这个东西

I don't like this thing even more.

对

Correct.

我觉得

I think.

我说实话

I am telling the truth.

我咱俩一见一致

We both agree as soon as we meet.

特别是今年增强版的那个

Especially this year's enhanced version.

越位越位系统

Offside offside system

对

Yes.

我我觉得非常之离谱

I think it’s extremely ridiculous.

非常

Very

对

Correct.

这个这个这个这个太夸张了

This is just too exaggerated!

这个这个我觉得怎么说

This, this, I'm not sure how to say it.

呃

Uh

当然这几天在网上成为反vr阵营

Of course, in recent days, there has been a rise of the anti-VR camp online.

这个领袖的黄建祥一直在吐槽这个东西

This leader, Huang Jianxiang, has been complaining about this thing.

当然他说的有些极端啊

Of course, what he said is a bit extreme.

他这个有一些阴谋论的一些

He has some conspiracy theory ideas.

观点在里面

The perspective is inside.

但我的认为是

But my opinion is

呃

Uh.

因为足球规则里面的很多东西

Because many things in the rules of football.

嗯

Um.

越位这个我们先不了啊

Let's not talk about offside for now.

越位因为当时制定越位规则的时候

Offside, because when the offside rule was established at that time.

我们不能以这个以毫米为尺度来衡量

We cannot measure this in millimeters.

越位这个东西的时候制定的规则

The rules for offside were established at that time.

我们先不了越位

Let's not talk about offside for now.

呃

Uh

先聊别的一些犯规内容

Let's first talk about some other rules violations.

那些犯规内容

The contents of those fouls.

呃

Uh.

他本来就没有把它在定义上定义的如此的严格

He didn't originally define it so strictly in terms of definition.

嗯

Uh-huh.

像我们知道我现在能想起的几个像第一场球的那个犯规

Like we know, the several fouls I can think of right now are similar to the one in the first game.

像阿根廷的那个犯规

Like the foul in Argentina.

像像昨天

Like yesterday

像前天吹给阿根又吹给阿根廷的那个点球打波兰那场球的点球

Like the penalty awarded to Argentina in the match against Poland the day before yesterday.

这些犯规

These fouls.

呃

Uh

怎么说

How to say?

就环想那天我觉得说了一个很好

I just think that day I said something really good.

他说

He said.

这个定位球往里一踢你闭着眼睛随便一吹回来看回放怎么都有犯规

If you kick this free kick in, you can close your eyes and blow randomly, and when you look back at the replay, it will show a foul every time.

对

Correct.

不是攻防犯规就是防守犯规

It's either an offensive foul or a defensive foul.

我我个人一直认为是这样

I personally have always believed it is this way.

VR争议这些其实最大的几个点不就是

The main points of controversy surrounding VR are actually just a few.

呃

Uh

昨天乌拉辉那个点球

Yesterday, that penalty by Wu Lahui.

然后日本队那个出界对吧

Then the Japanese team was out of bounds, right?

对吧

Right?

嗯

Hmm.

然后阿根廷前面那两个三个吧

Then the two or three in front of Argentina, right?

两两个莫名其妙的点球

Two inexplicable penalty kicks.

点球吗

Is it a penalty kick?

对对两个

Two pairs.

说实话

To be honest.

梅西那个第一场的那个点球和第三场的点球都很莫名其妙

The penalty kick in Messi's first match and the one in the third match were both quite bizarre.

还有还有卡塔尔那场第一场对卡塔尔那场刚开场就被吹掉了

Also, in the first match against Qatar, it was blown off right at the beginning.

这个对对对那进球月位一只手的月位

This refers to the goal position of the moon in one hand's position.

呃

Uh

我是觉得

I feel that.

首先啊

First of all,

VR应该我我我一直支持哪些地方必用VR

VR should be supported by me, me, me in places where it is absolutely necessary to use VR.

就像那个

Just like that.

10年时也被兰帕德那个进球被吹掉

The goal that Lampard scored was also disallowed 10 years ago.

对吧

Right?

我认为球进没进

I think the ball went in.

VR必上

VR必上 translates to "VR is a must."

对

Correct.

出没出见吧

Come out and see, right?

这个这个是一定的

This is definitely the case.

那必须得必须得有

That must be required, it must have.

包括日本的一个进球这个这个这个这个争议那么大的一个

Including a goal from Japan, this is such a controversial matter.

这个

This

呃

Uh

算是底线就球吧

Let's call it a baseline, then.

最终导致进球的这么一个处理

The handling that ultimately led to the goal.

我认为没问题

I think there is no problem.

因为有科技的存在吧

Perhaps it's because of the existence of technology.

确实没出现

Indeed, it did not appear.

这个是这个是这个是规范了比赛

This is this is this is the standard for the competition.

呃

Uh

没有问题

No problem.

但是呃

But um

现在现在VR核心的问题在于呃

The current core issue with VR is, uh...

以昨天晚上无来归的比赛为例啊

Taking last night's match, which had no outcome, as an example.

呃

Uh

那两个点球该不该吹

Should those two penalty kicks be called?

裁判认为不该吹

The referee thought it shouldn't be called.

因为VR其实在点球的时候是呃

Because VR is actually, uh, during the penalty kick.

后批后方的视频裁判团队提醒主裁判

The video referee team behind the goal reminds the main referee.

这个球有VR了

This ball has VR now.

但是主裁判有权利看还是不看

But the referee has the right to decide whether to look or not.

对吧

Right?

对对在这个时候

Right at this moment.

球员

Player

为什么不能够要求去看

Why can't we ask to see it?

就既然有这么先进的技术

Since there is such advanced technology now

就我们现在打网球呃看网球了都知道会有鹰眼挑战

In tennis, we all know that there will be an eagle eye challenge.

对吧

Right?

挑战吗

Challenge?

对对羽毛球也有鹰眼挑战

Yes, badminton also has the Hawk-Eye challenge.

嗯

Hmm.

NBA也有

There is also in the NBA.

对犯规是否我挑战一次给个机会

Can I challenge the foul once and have a chance?

这样的话

In that case.

我认为反而是公平的

I think it is fair instead.

就是相对来说

It's relatively speaking.

但是从好多人从阴谋论的角度上来看

But from the perspective of many people who see it as a conspiracy theory.

嗯

Hmm.

他们就会说这个东西会影响什么裁判啊

They would say that this thing will affect what referee, huh?

什么比赛等等的

What competition and so on.

但是从我的观点上来看

But from my point of view

你既然要做到绝对的公平

Since you want to achieve absolute fairness.

那么嗯

Well then.

裁判

Referee

说实话在这个时间段是否应该给出一些相对应的东西

To be honest, should we provide something corresponding during this time period?

而且第二个大家反对VR一个很重要的一个点是觉得把比赛切的太碎了

Moreover, a very important point that everyone opposes about VR is that it breaks the game down into too many segments.

对吧

Right?

对不光是切的太碎了

It's just that it was cut too finely.

甚至从某种比赛是某种程度上

Even in a certain competition, it is to some extent.

VR和这次的五次换人这个规则

The VR and the rule of this time's five substitutions.

甚至是六次换人的这个规则已经在影响现代足球的一个

Even the rule of allowing six substitutions has already started to impact modern football.

一个技术发展的方向了

A direction for technological development.

嗯

Hmm.

像这次世界杯我刚查了一下场均到了103分钟

I just checked that the average match duration for this World Cup has reached 103 minutes.

对很离谱

That's really outrageous.

很离谱103分钟

It's ridiculous, 103 minutes.

这这意味着什么呢

What does this mean?

意味着呃你为什么有103分钟

It means, uh, why do you have 103 minutes?

因为你中断的时间多了

Because you interrupted for a long time.

你中断的时间多了

You've taken more breaks.

意味着这个体能分配得重新来重新来考虑

This means that the allocation of physical abilities needs to be reconsidered.

再加上现在可以换五到六个人

In addition, now we can swap five to six people.

对

Correct.

那整个比赛足球比赛的可能既然是发展的对打法方向的可能会受到一个影响

The possible development direction of the entire football match may be influenced by strategies.

一个影响

An influence

所以你刚刚说的加挑战这个更不得了

So the challenge you just mentioned is even more significant.

你这个加挑战相当于每个队多了一次到两次的暂停了

This challenge is equivalent to one to two extra timeouts for each team.

对

Correct.

但是但是但是咱回过一个角度来讲

But, but, but let's look at it from another perspective.

武汉我是非常支持的

I am very supportive of Wuhan.

现在原因是他他极大的提升了比赛的强度

The reason now is that he has greatly increased the intensity of the competition.

我们这次看世界杯对你能感觉得到啊

You can really feel it when we watch the World Cup this time.

之前我们最经常看到的比赛到了六七十分钟

The matches we usually see previously reach the 60 to 70-minute mark.

各个队球员这个因为这个体能极限

Each team's players are facing this due to their physical limits.

第二个体能极限到了之后

After reaching the second physical limit.

这个比赛节奏会慢了下来

The pace of this competition has slowed down.

对但是武汉的出现就很非常的好的解决了这个问题

Yes, but the emergence of Wuhan has very well solved this problem.

基本上因为发现大量的球队在下半场开场先换两三个

Basically, it is because many teams have found that substituting two or three players at the start of the second half is effective.

或者是对下半场踢了十分钟就换就换两三个

Or maybe replace two or three players just ten minutes into the second half.

然后七八十分钟那会再换两个这种状态出现保证场上球员的体能的时候

Then after about seventy to eighty minutes, we will change two players in this condition to ensure the on-field players' stamina.

你就会发现

You will discover.

呃

Uh

这个比赛的节奏是越来越好看了

The pace of this competition is becoming more and more enjoyable.

但是但是这也带来一个问题

But this also brings a problem.

问题就是球队厚度不足的情况下冷门的出现会变难

The problem is that when the team's depth is insufficient, upsets become harder to occur.

还有一个问题啊

There's another question.

超级球星的发挥空间变少了

The performance space for superstars has decreased.

对不利于造星了

It's not conducive to star-making.

对你不利于造星了

It's not beneficial for you to create stars.

你超级球星首先他是不会被换下去的

You are a superstar; first of all, he will not be substituted.

对

Correct.

或者说他不会替替补的吧

Or he won't replace the substitute.

对吧

Right?

那

That

呃

Uh

这就是我一直面对的防守球员

This is the defender I have always faced.

又我可以随时更新来获得体能上的一个优势的时候

And I can update at any time to gain a physical advantage.

他就很难提

He finds it very difficult to bring it up.

所以搞不好以后在战术上会出现什么的这个篮球里面这个叫什么

So who knows what might happen in terms of tactics in basketball in the future, what is this called?

换上换下

Change it up and down.

不也不是换上换下

It's not just about switching back and forth.

就是他明明有首发实力的

He clearly has the strength to be a starter.

我让他去打替补这种叫啥

What do you call it when I let him go play as a substitute?

日本队这场不是就是用这样的战术

Isn't the Japanese team using this kind of tactic in this match?

对啊

Yeah.

干倒了德国西班牙

Defeated Germany and Spain.

对对对以后每个球队你可能有一到两个球员

Yes, yes, yes, you may have one or two players from each team in the future.

他是有首发能力的

He has the ability to be a starter.

但是他会用来打替补

But he will be used as a substitute.

到到后来搞不好在这么一两年会出现最佳十二人这样的一个一个评选

In a year or two, there might be a selection of the best twelve people.

啊

Ah

对

Correct.

所以这个呃

So this uh

但但是英超已经宣布在今年继续的比赛里面不会使用

But the Premier League has announced that it will not be used in this year's continuing matches.

这个世界杯的这这个换人和对家家屎的这样一个规则

This World Cup's substitution and the rule about the other team's situation.

嗯

Hmm.

探索吧

Explore.

我觉得确实有很大的一个变化

I do believe there has been a significant change.

像日本为什么刚才调和说日本为什么这次小赛表现

Why did Japan perform like this in the recent small competition?

这么好

So good.

我觉得和他们对这个规则和这个规律吃的很痛

I feel that they are very hurt by this rule and this pattern.

有一定的关系

There is a certain relationship.

他两套阵容

He has two lineups.

他他跟你来两个打法

He shows you two ways to play.

两套阵容这样给提

Two formations are proposed like this.

嗯还是挺溜的吧

Well, it’s still quite impressive.

所以

So

可能以大家说这就是一杯诸神黄昏吧

Perhaps this is what everyone calls a cup of Ragnarok.

我们已经告别了好几个了

We have already said goodbye to several.

小赛踢完

The small competition has finished.

比利时全队

Belgium national team

这个苏莱斯卡巴尼

This Sulaeskabani.

布拉圭全队

The entire team of Paraguay.

德国

Germany

德国的像穆勒

Germany's like Müller.

我估计这肯定是最后一届了

I guess this will definitely be the last session.

对

Yes.

还告别了什么

What else did you say goodbye to?

还告别了丹麦

Also said goodbye to Denmark.

干别的丹麦

Do other Denmark.

德罕诺伊尔

Dehanuoer

这应该都是最后一届了

This should be the last one.

对

Yes.

还有什么球队

What other teams are there?

还有什么球队被淘汰了

Which other teams have been eliminated?

还有上下告别的球队里面

There are teams that bid farewell above and below.

强队应该墨西哥可能算吗

Can a strong team be considered Mexico?

墨西哥每届都出现的

Occurs in every session in Mexico.

对这届也没出现了

Didn't appear in this session either.

其他的我觉得都还好

I think everything else is okay.

都还好

All is good.

淘汰赛阶段

Knockout stage

我们看看大家非常关注的阿根廷

Let's take a look at Argentina, which everyone is very focused on.

巴西

Brazil

英格兰

England

西班牙

Spain

葡萄牙

Portugal

法国这几个球队

The few teams in France.

看看吧

Take a look.

我们争取在明后天

We strive to do it the day after tomorrow.

可能我明天

I might tomorrow.

明天晚上应该可以有时间

I should have time tomorrow evening.

明天晚上或者后天应该有时间了

I should have time tomorrow night or the day after.

应该有时间了

There should be time now.

我们可以再录一期

We can record one more episode.

再录一期节目

Record another episode.

可以再聊一下在卡塔尔当地的一些

Could we talk again about some things local to Qatar?

比赛之外的一些

Some things outside of the competition.

巴西的一些

Some from Brazil

吃喝玩乐的一些

Some entertainment and leisure activities.

包括小组赛

Including the group stage.

对

Yes

包括淘汰赛

Including the knockout stage.

我们也可以聊一聊比赛

We can also talk about the competition.

好吧

Alright.

行吧

Okay.

那这期节目就是这样

So that's how this episode is.

差不多

Almost there.

现在去看

Go see it now.

先阿根廷这两球是吧

First, Argentina scored these two goals, right?

先是荷兰的球

First is the Dutch ball.

然后后是阿根廷的球

Then it was Argentina's turn.

哦

Oh.

好

Good

那我们下期再见

See you next time.

拜拜

Goodbye

好的

Okay.

拜拜

Goodbye

你看到那个

Did you see that?