糖蒜爱汽车：不混不潮流

冰,你太快了

Bing, you are too fast.

你是我做过所有男的里最快的

You are the fastest among all the men I've been with.

其实,状态好的时候也没有那么快

Actually, even when in good shape, it’s still not that fast.

我真的觉得每次都挺快的

I really feel that it goes quite fast every time.

真的吗

Really?

真的

Really.

Oh yeah

哦，是的。

傻

Silly.

姐哥,你怎么总是换来换去啊

Sister, why do you always switch back and forth?

你都换了好多回了

You have changed it many times.

换了有劲啊

It feels powerful after the change.

那好吧,换吧

Alright then, let's change it.

走你

Let's go!

天南,太热了,你把我绑得太紧了

Tian Nan, it's too hot, you tied me too tightly.

那我也不能现在就停下来啊

Then I can't just stop now.

那太紧了怎么办呀

What should I do if it's too tight?

你再忍忍,我马上就到了

Just hold on a little longer, I will be there soon.

欢迎收听

Welcome to listen.

唐算爱汽车

Tang Suan loves cars.

咋辈你怎么不说啊

Why aren't you saying anything?

欢迎大家收听

Welcome everyone to listen.

很久都没有上线的唐算爱汽车

Tang Suan loves cars, but hasn't been online for a long time.

先跟大家问好

First, let me greet everyone.

我是秦迪泉

I am Qin Diquan.

我们今天呢

What about today?

请到了这个触不可及的

Please arrive at this unattainable place.

四万大叔

Forty Thousand Uncle

高大上的

High-end and classy.

四万大叔

Forty Thousand Uncle

是挺高的

It's quite tall.

听到你们说很久没做了

I heard you say you haven't done it for a long time.

我心里平衡点

My heart's balance point.

因为你们一直没请我

Because you have never invited me.

我以为你们把我给忘了

I thought you had forgotten about me.

感情就最近也没怎么做

I haven't really worked on my feelings lately.

那我还挺感谢你们更新节目

Then I am quite grateful for you updating the program.

想着我的

Thinking of mine.

其实做完这期节目呢

Actually, after finishing this episode...

大家就会发现

Everyone will find out.

四万大叔其实是一个触手可及

Forty Thousand Uncle is actually something that is within reach.

对,因为我觉得就是

Yes, because I think that's just it.

我们最近一段时间虽然没有在

We haven't been together for a while recently.

那个就没有怎么更新爱汽车节目吧

That hasn't updated the Love Car program much, right?

但是我觉得就是一直在

But I feel it's just always there.

我觉得是在消化这徐老师的这些资讯

I think I'm digesting the information from Teacher Xu.

我觉得就是最后几次那个做节目

I think it was those last few times that the show was made.

徐老师传达这些资讯

Teacher Xu conveyed this information.

陆续在这半年之后

One after another in the six months that followed.

徐老师各种的在以这种

Teacher Xu is doing various things in this way.

我就是只能通过一个

I can only go through one.

就是这个触手可及的方式

It's just this accessible way.

通过这个微信

Through this WeChat.

我看一看

I'll take a look.

徐老师在半年前说的一些小秘密

Some little secrets that Teacher Xu mentioned six months ago.

陆续露出了

Gradually revealed.

然后又立马让我们觉得就是

Then it immediately made us feel that it was just...

更加的高大

Even taller.

传说中的东西终于见着了

The legendary item has finally been seen.

对,刚刚原来上期节目

Yes, it was from the last episode just now.

说那几个车

Which few cars are you talking about?

好几个人都问我们

Several people have asked us.

说联系徐老师想买

Contact Teacher Xu if you want to buy.

就那个500万400万的

It's about the 5 million and 4 million.

那为什么没给我联系呢

Then why didn't you contact me?

这必须得联系

This must be contacted.

是吧

Is that so?

对,其实他们就是没看过

Yes, it's just that they haven't seen it.

咱们最早做那期

Let's start with that episode.

关于我个人的那个故事

About that story of mine.

其实听完那个

Actually, after listening to that...

好多人就是

Many people are just

其实我觉得都能更了解

Actually, I feel that we can all understand better.

接下了神秘的面纱

Lifted the mysterious veil.

对,就是触不可及

Yes, it's simply unattainable.

是,变得触手可及

Yes, becoming within reach.

没错

That's right.

但是我觉得因为徐老师

But I think it's because of Teacher Xu.

一直是属于这汽车行业

Has always belonged to the automotive industry.

里面比较怎么说呢

How to say it inside?

比较靠前端的吧

It's more towards the front end, I suppose.

所以我觉得肯定在很多人

So I think there must be many people.

眼里面都是那种

All that’s in the eyes are that kind of thing.

就是一直说的也是这种

It's always been this kind of thing being talked about.

高大上的内容啊

High-end and luxurious content!

或者怎么样什么的

Or something like that.

所以就不免会有这么一个

So there will inevitably be such a thing.

其实真的未必

Actually, it's not necessarily true.

就是说因为特别是在

That is to say, especially in

唐钻这样的平台上

On a platform like Tangzuan.

我觉得其实大家就是懂车

I think everyone actually knows cars.

就更不用再装这个了

There's no need to pretend anymore.

其实我觉得

Actually, I think...

不管是我还是RAM驾到

Whether it's me or RAM arriving.

我们的平台

Our platform

其实是没有任何的

Actually, there is nothing at all.

在车的价值

The value of the car.

或者价格上的

Or in terms of price.

价格方面的一个壁垒

A barrier in terms of price.

就是我们从什么车都能聊

We can chat about any car.

只要它好玩

As long as it's fun.

有文化

Cultured

能够有话题点

Able to have discussion points.

在我这儿没有什么

There's nothing here with me.

就是车辆

It's just a vehicle.

或者我谈及的话题的

Or the topic I mentioned.

一个价格界限

A price limit.

这个是永远不存在

This will never exist.

不管是当年做的媒体

Regardless of the media created back then.

还是现在做的媒体

Or the media that is being done now.

包括斯万说车

Including the Swann car.

我们从来不以价格和价值

We never equate price with value.

来衡量我们的媒体属性

To measure our media attributes.

和媒体内容

and media content

但我觉得徐老师最好的地方

But I think the best thing about Teacher Xu is...

是不管是这个车

It doesn't matter whether it's this car.

就像刚刚徐老师说的

Just like Mr. Xu just said.

布里尼

Brini

这个车的价值

The value of this car.

或者论定

Or discuss and determine.

我觉得徐老师说的那些车

I think the cars that Teacher Xu mentioned.

我都觉得特好

I think it's really great.

我经常在国外

I often travel abroad.

见到一个

See a

徐老师说过那种车

Teacher Xu mentioned that kind of car.

让人激动的那种尖叫

The kind of scream that excites people.

人说你怎么了

People are asking what's wrong with you.

我说那是不是看妞了

I said, isn't that looking at girls?

我说没看妞

I said I didn't see the girl.

是前面跟徐老师说的

It was mentioned earlier to Teacher Xu.

一车过去

A car passed by.

分美

Divided beauty

我听说你前一日子

I heard that you the other day

和你太太去

Go with your wife.

经历了一个当初

Gone through a beginning.

觉得触不可及的一个旅行

A journey that feels unattainable.

绝对是触不可及

Absolutely unattainable.

之前还给我咨询了很久

Earlier, they consulted me for quite a long time.

但是我听说你们玩得特别好

But I heard that you all had a great time.

我觉得就是说

I think it means that...

我觉得就是

I think it's just that.

对于一个

For a

没有自驾的经验来讲

There is no experience in driving by oneself.

就是徐老师当时在微信里

It was Teacher Xu who was on WeChat at that time.

跟我说了很多地方

Told me about many places.

我基本上在当地

I am basically local.

那微信反复收听

That WeChat listens repeatedly.

因为我觉得

Because I feel

我根本不可能完成这些事情

I simply cannot accomplish these tasks.

因为觉得那些东西

Because I feel that those things

离我太远了

Too far away from me.

最后还是吃了几个肘子

In the end, I still ate a few pig knuckles.

对

Correct.

后来发现

Later discovered.

确实在这个过程当中

Indeed, in this process.

如果你去勇于的去投入

If you dare to invest yourself勇于的去投入

去发现

Go and discover.

你也能找到

You can find it too.

徐老师说的那些神秘的小镜

The mysterious little mirrors that Teacher Xu spoke of.

因为之前甚至有人恐吓我

Because someone even threatened me before.

说你千万不要去那种地儿

You must never go to that kind of place.

说徐老师是有

Teacher Xu is very good.

护身符

Amulet

对

Yes.

说像你这样的人

People like you.

肯定到了半截就没游

Surely it stopped halfway and didn’t swim.

然后就困在山里面了

Then we got stuck in the mountains.

但是我一样

But I'm the same.

我也进了山了

I also went into the mountains.

我也在山里面玩了

I also played in the mountains.

所以我觉得这本身是一个

So I think this is itself a

就是从一个梦想那种

It's like a dream.

出不可及的状态

An unattainable state.

到了最后你发现

In the end, you find out.

过去之后

After the past

说徐老师说那些东西

Teacher Xu said those things.

应该去

Should go.

不是那么远

Not that far.

就离你真的很近

It's really very close to you.

其实我生活中

Actually, in my life

有时候也会遇到

Sometimes it will also happen.

特别经常遇到

Especially often encountered.

我们唐算的听众

Our Tang Suan listeners

其实那种感觉

Actually, that feeling.

还是挺好的

It's still pretty good.

因为在当年

Because back in those years

我们小时候的时候

When we were kids.

当然我们不是一代人了

Of course, we are no longer from the same generation.

我小时候

When I was young.

包括你们小时候

Including when you were kids.

我们觉得

We feel

广播是一件

Broadcasting is a matter of

非常出不可及的事

Something that is extremely out of reach.

高大上

Sophisticated and upscale.

对

Correct.

我们觉得我们不可能

We feel that we cannot.

有一天我们会成为

One day we will become.

广播电台里面

Inside the radio station.

那个主播

That anchor.

梦想

Dream

对

Yes.

但是有唐算广播

But there is a Tang Dynasty broadcast.

这样的平台

Such a platform

我觉得就我都特别喜欢

I think I particularly like it.

因为我在这就可以

Because I can do it here.

完成我一个

Complete one for me.

对吧

Right?

我虽然没考上

Although I didn't get accepted.

人大新闻系

Renmin University News Department

但是我可以坐在

But I can sit down.

唐算广播的

Tang is broadcasting.

这个DJ台前面

In front of the DJ booth.

话筒前面

In front of the microphone.

来完成我的梦想

Come to fulfill my dreams.

我觉得其实真的是这样

I really think it's like this.

很多东西

Many things

当你当初觉得

When you initially felt

出不可及的时候

When it is out of reach.

其实到今天

Actually, by today.

通过技术

Through technology

通过各方面的

Through various aspects of

一些大家努力

Everyone is working hard.

通过整个的

Throughout the entire.

这个媒体

this media

传播形式的一个变化

A change in the form of communication.

它就变成我们面前

It becomes before us.

触手可及的东西

Something within reach.

我觉得这个感觉

I feel this sensation.

特别美妙

Especially wonderful.

而且我觉得就是

And I feel that...

因为许老师

Because of Teacher Xu

做这些媒体

Do these media.

杂志

Magazine

就是他传播了

It is he who spread it.

很多那种

A lot of that kind.

怎么说呢

How should I put it?

就是那种很多东西

It's that kind of thing with a lot of stuff.

我觉得以前

I think in the past.

在中国不可能

It's impossible in China.

你像比如许老师

You are like, for example, Teacher Xu.

玩老车

Playing with old cars.

或者许老师

Or perhaps Teacher Yu.

推一个什么

Push something.

新的汽车的那种

The kind of new car.

比如像什么

For example, like what?

新能源车

New energy vehicle

或者什么

Or something.

混动能源这种车

Hybrid energy vehicles.

我觉得以前

I think in the past.

根本不可能

Absolutely impossible.

以前就觉得

I used to think

就是一个汽油车

It's just a gasoline car.

或者那种

Or that kind.

离这种车距离太远

Too far away from this kind of car.

对

Correct.

但是现在就是

But now it's just...

比如许老师一介绍

For example, as soon as Teacher Xu introduces it...

觉得还挺是那么回事

I find it quite reasonable.

对

Correct.

我觉得当初是个概念

I think it was just a concept at the beginning.

然后后来变成一个

Then later it became one.

昂贵的消费品

Luxury consumer goods

现在可能越来越

It might be getting more and more now.

走近我们

Come closer to us.

我觉得这方面

I think in this regard.

秦工可能有更多的发言权

Engineer Qin may have more say.

因为小秦他

Because Xiao Qin he...

肯定是学理工出身

Definitely has a background in science and engineering.

对

Yes.

他当年上大学的时候

When he was in college back then

他肯定想不到

He definitely wouldn't have thought of it.

自己未来

Future self

会从事一个

Will engage in one.

跟新能源车有关系的

Related to new energy vehicles.

他肯定想不到

He definitely can't imagine.

在他30岁的时候

When he was 30 years old.

身边的很多车

Many cars around.

就已经不烧汽油了

It no longer requires gasoline.

对

Yes

我更想不到的时候

I can’t think of a time when I wanted it more.

刚开始

Just started.

我觉得新能源车

I think new energy vehicles.

推广的困难

Difficulties in promotion.

大的程度

Great extent

是我们其实

It's actually us.

每个人想不出来的

What everyone can't think of.

但是现在

But now

可能你身边的人

The people around you.

一直都在咨询你说

I've been consulting you about it.

我想买一个新能源车

I want to buy a new energy vehicle.

我按个电桩

I press a charging pile.

对

Yes.

我应该怎么样去做

What should I do?

我应该有什么

What should I have?

但是

But

这个东西

This thing

已经真的就走到了

Already really just walked to.

你的身边

Beside you

是的

Yes.

对

Correct.

所以我觉得

So I think.

从出不可及

Out of reach from the beginning.

到出手可及

Within reach.

其实

Actually

其实我们经历的很多

In fact, we have experienced a lot.

但是从这个经历中

But from this experience

我们能

We can.

就是说

That is to say.

真的能走到自己身边

Can really walk next to oneself.

我觉得

I think.

也是挺奇迹的一件事

It's also quite a miraculous thing.

对

Yes.

汽车到现在

The car has arrived now.

我们诞生在这个世界上

We are born into this world.

130年

130 years

其实它整个的历史的

In fact, its entire history is...

发展的过程

The process of development.

就是这么一个过程

It's just such a process.

它有很多的追求梦想的人

It has many people pursuing their dreams.

这些工程师

These engineers

这些设计师

These designers.

他们把他们年少的时候的

They put their youth's...

一些

Some

出品的

Produced or released

不可及的梦想

An unattainable dream.

通过他们的努力

Through their efforts.

他们对汽车的热爱

Their love for cars.

通过他们巧妙的双手

Through their skillful hands.

他们的非常伟大的大脑

Their very great brains.

把它制造成一步一步的

Make it step by step.

代表全新科技的汽车

Cars representing new technology

然后带给我们这些喜欢车的人

Then brings us car enthusiasts.

喜欢千万的用户

Millions of users love it.

变成一个出手可及的东西

Become something easily attainable.

我觉得这就是一个非常伟大的

I think this is a very great thing.

一个实现梦想的一个过程

A process of realizing dreams.

他们把梦想实现出来

They have realized their dreams.

把它分享给全世界的人民

Share it with people all over the world.

让我们现在身边

Let us be by each other's side now.

才有了这么多

That's how there is so much.

有意思的

Interesting.

我们喜欢的汽车

The cars we like.

才会有我们仨坐在这

Only then can the three of us sit here.

有唐僧爱汽车

There is a monk who loves cars.

我觉得这个爱字特别重要

I think the word "love" is especially important.

对吧

Right?

我们都是爱车的人

We are all car enthusiasts.

这个爱的过程

The process of this love.

其实就是一个

It's actually just one.

梦想到现实的一个过程

The process of turning dreams into reality.

这是非常美妙的

This is非常美妙的.

但是我觉得我现在要打破一下

But I think I need to break through a bit now.

怎么说呢

How to put it?

我们一直拔高这种状态

We have always elevated this state.

其实刚才我们说的

Actually, what we just talked about.

新能源汽车

New energy vehicles

我其实挺害怕的

I’m actually quite scared.

就为什么

Just why

因为我有那个

Because I have that.

叫电池恐惧症

It's called battery anxiety.

那是你骑电动车

That is you riding an electric bike.

骑太多了

Rode too much.

比如你手机

For example, your phone.

我要低于50%的电

I want less than 50% electricity.

我就特别紧张

I feel特别 anxious.

那就比如你

For example, you.

新能源汽车

New energy vehicles

我觉得最大的问题

I think the biggest problem is...

就是如果比如说

That is to say, for example,

我曾经问过一车

I once asked a car.

出租车

Taxi

我打过一车

I hit a car.

我说你车跑多少

I said how much mileage does your car have?

说跑200多公里

Said to run more than 200 kilometers.

我说跑到156的时候

I said when I ran to 156.

肯定巨紧张

Definitely very nervous.

说万一回不去家

What if I can't go back home?

他都不会开到156

He can't even drive up to 156.

所以我觉得就是说

So I think that means...

虽然你看

Although you see

就是说有一些很新的

That means there are some very new ones.

这种技术什么的

What is this technology?

但是我觉得

But I think

对我来说

For me

新能源汽车

New energy vehicles

对我来说

For me

可能是短期内有一个障碍

There may be an obstacle in the short term.

除非是它有充足的

Unless it has sufficient.

那个地方能充电

That place can charge.

我觉得就是

I think it's just that.

我们的所谓

Our so-called

说到新能源汽车

Speaking of new energy vehicles

它并不一定仅仅代表着

It does not necessarily represent only.

纯电车

Pure electric vehicle

你的那种心理障碍

Your kind of psychological obstacle.

我当年在一开始

Back in the day, at the beginning.

接触纯电车的时候

When coming into contact with electric vehicles.

也有过

There has also been.

包括我们当时

Including us at that time.

试驾的这个mini e

The mini e that I test drove.

它那个续航里程

Its range endurance.

毕竟就是不大

After all, it's just not that big.

所以开的时候

So when it opens.

就有点紧张

Just a little nervous.

但是让我们不要忘了

But let's not forget.

这个世界上还有一种

There is another kind in this world.

就是更普及的

It's just more widespread.

一种新能源汽车

A type of new energy vehicle.

叫hybrid混合动力

It is called hybrid power.

混合动力

Hybrid power

它现在分两种

It is now divided into two types.

一种是增程式的混合

One type is the range-extended hybrid.

一种是

One kind is

plugin的插电式混合

plug-in hybrid

那这个

So this

就是所谓的增程式的

It's what is called an extended range type.

这种混合

This kind of mixture.

它其实就不存在这个问题

This issue actually doesn't exist.

因为它的燃料和电池之间

Because of its fuel and battery.

那种互动

That kind of interaction.

真正意义上的混合

A true form of hybridization.

所谓的hybrid

The so-called hybrid.

它这个词的意义就在于

The meaning of this word lies in

它会告诉你

It will tell you.

你不可能把电池

You can't put the battery.

或者是没电了以后

Or maybe it ran out of battery.

停在路边上

Stop by the roadside.

这是不能发生的事情

This is something that cannot happen.

这个混合动力就是

This hybrid power is

其实是一种节能的一种解决方案

It is actually a kind of energy-saving solution.

我其实第一次

This is actually my first time.

您说那混动

You said that hybrid.

我想起来

I remembered.

我第一次知道这个活动是

The first time I learned about this event was

我在2000年

I was in the year 2000.

我忘了是零几年的时候

I forgot what year it was.

我参加了一个

I participated in a...

由联合国做的一个环保的活动

An environmental protection campaign organized by the United Nations.

他们用的所有的车

All the cars they use.

都是混动

All are hybrids.

是普瑞斯

It's a Prius.

肯定是普瑞斯

It must be a Prius.

然后当时就说

Then it was said at that moment.

这个车从来没接触过

This car has never been touched.

什么原理

What principle?

他就说

He said.

他给我讲原理以后

After he explained the principle to me.

其实我第一反应是

In fact, my first reaction was

我只好省油

I can only save fuel.

因为那时候我爱看奥拓

Because at that time I loved watching Auotuo.

但是我觉得我这车比奥拓还省油

But I think my car is more fuel-efficient than the Alto.

还挺速度还挺快的

It's quite fast.

我就是特别感兴趣

I am just particularly interested.

后来看看

I'll take a look later.

后来发现这车已经在

Later found that this car was already at...

欧美已经特别火了好多年

Europe and America have been particularly popular for many years.

但是这样普瑞斯很贵

But this Prius is very expensive.

为什么呢

Why is that?

就是说

That is to say.

其实我在这想说什么

Actually, what I want to say here is...

我刚开始接触新能源车的时候

When I first got into new energy vehicles,

那可能是

That could be.

就是五六年前

It was about five or six years ago.

当时一个院士级别的人

At that time, a person of academician level.

给了我们一个概念

Gave us a concept.

说

Speak.

你做了这么多年研究混合动力的技术

You have been researching hybrid technology for so many years.

比这个纯电的技术要高很多很多很多

The technology is much, much, much more advanced than this pure electric one.

对我们为什么做不了混动

Why can't we do hybrid?

是我们的技术达不到哪

It is our technology that falls short.

现在所以我们只能先突破

Now we can only break through first.

为了清洁能源去突破纯电

To break through pure electricity for clean energy.

但是纯电的又电池的瓶颈

However, there is a bottleneck with pure electric vehicles' batteries.

从五六年前

From five to six years ago.

大家就都清楚这些就是说混动和这个的区别

Everyone is clear about these distinctions between hybrid and this.

但是大家认为

But everyone thinks

就是这个纯电的车

This is the pure electric car.

主要的成本在于这个电池上

The main cost is in this battery.

然后呢

And then?

这个比如就是这种混合动力车主要的成本

This example refers to the main cost of this type of hybrid car.

可能就是在他的技术上

It might just be in his technology.

对所以说呢

So, what I'm saying is...

说就是说当时普瑞斯卖的很贵

What I'm saying is that at that time, the Prius was very expensive.

当时可能就是低梦的那个那个时代

It was probably the era of low dreams back then.

可能只有普瑞斯这两千年出吗

It may only be available for release in two thousand years.

对这么一款对

For such a product.

因为我们的很多人包括我在内对混合动力

Because many of us, including myself, have a negative view of hybrid vehicles.

这个概念的这个初期教授

The initial teaching of this concept.

教学实力其实都是普瑞斯

The teaching strength is actually all from Puris.

因为这个1997年问世的普瑞斯是就是全球汽车史上第一款量产的混合动力轿车

Because this Prius, which was launched in 1997, is the world's first mass-produced hybrid car in automotive history.

确实他当时的价格比较贵

Indeed, his price back then was relatively expensive.

甚至到2005年国产的时候

Even by the time of its domestic release in 2005

他的价格都高居不下

His prices remain consistently high.

这是没有办法的事情

This is something that cannot be helped.

就像你说的他所有的事情都有一个开始啊

Just like you said, everything he does has a beginning.

丰田作为这个领域的一个先驱者

Toyota, as a pioneer in this field.

嗯他其实做了很多就是我们说的

Well, he actually did a lot, just as we mentioned.

赔本赚吆喝的事情

Making a loss just to create a buzz.

因为我相信初期普瑞斯是很难给

Because I believe it's difficult for the early Prius to provide.

丰田公司带来什么丰厚的利润

What rich profits does Toyota bring?

但是他坚持在做一代二代三代这么做下来

But he insists on doing it this way for the first generation, second generation, and third generation.

嗯我认为因为我对第一代普瑞斯的印象非常深刻

Well, I think it's because I have a very deep impression of the first generation Prius.

当时我身边啊

At that time, I was around.

呃第一批买普瑞斯的人是真正的有钱人

Uh, the first batch of people who bought the Prius were truly wealthy individuals.

嗯我认识几个

Yes, I know a few.

因为我听说海外就不说了

Because I heard that overseas is not to be mentioned.

欧洲欧美很多的普瑞斯的车主都是上市公司

Many Prius owners in Europe and America are from publicly traded companies.

CEO科学家大学教授律师就是一些很有钱

CEOs, scientists, university professors, and lawyers are all quite wealthy.

有环保理念的人

People with environmental awareness.

他们会去为环保买单

They will pay for environmental protection.

而那会事实上其实普瑞斯在美国欧洲其实不仅仅是一种环保先锋

In fact, Prius was not just an environmental pioneer in the United States and Europe.

他他也是一种潮流的一种象征

He is also a symbol of a certain trend.

就是我愿意花钱买一款小车

I am willing to spend money to buy a small car.

嗯啊来代表我对环境的保护

Uh, yes, it represents my protection of the environment.

这很多好莱坞明星

There are many Hollywood stars.

嗯为什么开普瑞斯

Hmm, why Caprice?

都是这个道理

It's all the same principle.

我认识的国内几个朋友派都当年很贵啊

Several friends I know in the country were very expensive back in the day.

这个都他们比这个

They are better at this than others.

但是差不多卖到30多万

But it sells for about 300,000 or so.

三十二十九万多

Thirty-two thousand and more.

我确实然后真的是从那会儿起

I really did start from that time.

我对混合动力的车型有了一个比较深深入的认识

I have gained a deeper understanding of hybrid vehicle models.

就是说他不仅仅是一种省油

It means that he is not just a way to save fuel.

他更多的是一种一种潮流

He is more of a trend.

一种一种他这种潮流其实不一定是时尚

This kind of trend he represents is not necessarily fashion.

不一定是fashion

Not necessarily fashion.

他是一种一种一种trend啊

He is a kind of trend.

就这种在这种潮流的这种促使家不仅仅是消费者

In this trend, it urges families to be more than just consumers.

而且是厂家

And it's from the manufacturer.

他们一定要把这方面东西越做越好

They must continue to improve in this area.

同时

At the same time

要越做越便宜

The more you do, the cheaper it gets.

为什么

Why?

因为这种潮流不是触不可及的东西

Because this trend is not something unattainable.

这就是我们今天可能也是想说到的东西

This is what we might want to talk about today.

就是所以所以丰田你看到他的这个普瑞斯

So that's why you see Toyota's Prius.

嗯

Hmm.

一代比一代价格低

Each generation has a lower price than the previous one.

对吧

Right?

真的是非常的就是做得非常好

Really, it was done extremely well.

而且他他的这个平台上出现了越来越多的混合动力的车型

Moreover, an increasing number of hybrid models have appeared on his platform.

啊

Ah

不管是TOYOTA还是LIXUS

Whether it's TOYOTA or LEXUS

嗯

Hmm.

就是我觉得这个平台其实是深入我们的

I think this platform actually delves into our...

嗯

Um

百姓的这个日常生活中的混合动力车型配置最丰富最全面最深入的一款车

This is the most丰富 and comprehensive hybrid vehicle configuration in the everyday lives of the common people.

无论是大众集团的车还是通用集团的车

Whether it's a Volkswagen Group car or a General Motors car.

起码在我们身边在中国市场没有任何一个可以做到像丰田和雷克萨斯一样

At least among us, there is no one in the Chinese market that can do it like Toyota and Lexus.

让这么多人第一次的开上新能源车

Let so many people drive electric vehicles for the first time.

我觉得这一点我就特别的表示敬意

I particularly express my respect for this point.

对

Correct.

嗯

Uh-huh.

而且我觉得其实对于大众来讲

And I think, in fact, for the general public,

就是一旦价格是到了一到了一定阶段和程度的时候

It is just that once the price reaches a certain stage and level.

其实我觉得其实是很重要的

Actually, I think it is very important.

我觉得大家的那种就是相对来说那种比较戒备比较紧张的那种新车会放松下来

I think everyone will relax somewhat regarding the new car, which they are relatively defensive and tense about.

对

Yes.

就觉得自己一下就能接受到这种以前绝对是触不可及的这么一种体验

I just feel that I can suddenly experience something that was definitely unattainable before.

这种特别难得就是就是你把一个大家都敬而远之

This kind of rarity is that you make something that everyone else keeps their distance from.

觉得一五这东西跟我有关系吗

Do you think this thing has anything to do with me?

哎

Sigh.

你通过这个将近十年的努力

Your nearly ten years of effort through this.

让他变成说我买车的时候

Let him say when I buy a car.

是不是也可以选一选这个车

Can we also choose this car?

这个不是很很容易的

This is not very easy.

所以我认为在我们中国啊

So I think in our China, ah.

让混合动力和新能源汽车真正的让我们进入我们的这个这个我们买车的list

Let hybrid and new energy vehicles truly enter our list of cars to buy.

我认为这是功劳最大的事

I think this is the most commendable thing.

对是这样

Yes, that's right.

对

Yes.

新能源车是这样

New energy vehicles are like this.

它是通过政策的角度去释放这个市场

It is about unleashing this market from a policy perspective.

但是我觉得丰田是真的用真正自己的技术去释放这个市场

But I think Toyota is truly using its own technology to unlock this market.

我觉得可能他下面可能会推出一款这个更加让大家触手可及的

I think he might be launching a version of this that is more accessible to everyone.

嗯

Hmm.

那么一辆车呢

Then what about a car?

一款就是等于混合动力车

A model is equivalent to a hybrid vehicle.

对

Correct.

因为丰田他也是近期发布了他的这个双勤战略

Because Toyota recently released its Dual Commitment strategy.

嗯

Hmm.

他有很多的

He has a lot of.

嗯

Um.

这个造成这个汽车价格比较高的一些零部件和技术的核心的产品一些

This results in some core products of components and technologies that make the price of this car relatively high.

他都实现了国产

He has achieved domestic production.

然后就这就是丰田这个品牌

And this is Toyota as a brand.

他在过去的几十年一直在做的就是本土化

What he has been doing for the past few decades is localization.

嗯

Hmm.

他跟很多的就是老板这个本土化

He is very much about the localization of the boss.

或者说

Or to say.

是合资化在嘴边的品牌不一样

The brands that are at the forefront of joint ventures are different.

他确实是踏踏实实的在做真正意义上的高水平高质量的本土化国产化

He is indeed doing genuine high-level and high-quality localization domestically in a down-to-earth manner.

所以呢

So, what?

我们目前经历的这个我们大家都说到我们今天的一个关键词就是双勤啊

What we are currently experiencing, which we all refer to today, is the keyword "double diligence."

这个概念他他他应该已经属于丰田这个品牌了哈

This concept should already belong to the Toyota brand.

就是双勤这个概念

It is the concept of "double diligence."

呃

Uh

他确实是一个不会让你感到就是很遥远或者很很昂贵的东西

He really is someone who won't make you feel like it's very distant or very expensive.

他确实现在通过这个这几款车的引入

He is indeed introducing these few car models now.

让他真正的能够进入我们因为我们看到这个价格

Let him truly be able to join us because we see this price.

他其实跟他的这个汽油版的价格已经相差无几啊

In fact, the price of his gasoline version is already not much different from this one.

已经贵不了很多

It's already not much more expensive.

而且你想想一个如果一个车他百公里耗油是八个或者九个或者七个

And think about it, if a car consumes eight, nine, or seven liters of fuel per hundred kilometers.

这边是三个或者四个

This side has three or four.

嗯

Um.

那价格如果差个一两万

The price difference is just around ten to twenty thousand.

就是很多人就会有他的选择

Many people will have their own choices.

而且其实现在中国人的消费观念已经成为就是可能一辈子就是拥有一个驾驶的这种

Moreover, the consumption concept of the Chinese people has become one where it is possible to own a vehicle for a lifetime.

就是就这么一个宝物

It's just such a treasure.

嗯

Hmm.

,就是也会有这种阶段性的这种就是更替的这种计划吧

There will also be this kind of phased replacement plan.

在很多人中被提到就是说我人生的阶段到这个阶段的时候应该是一个什么样的车

When mentioned by many people, it refers to what kind of car I should have at this particular stage of my life.

那么就是说我觉得价钱如果到了一定的程度

So I think if the price reaches a certain level

那也就很多人就是把它加在自己人生的这个就是怎么说座驾的这个更替

Many people add it to the changes in their life's journey, so to speak.

我认为人生这个阶段应该是那个更更节能环保一些

I think this stage of life should be more energy-efficient and environmentally friendly.

呃

Uh

在北京其实你拥有一辆汽车不难

It is actually not difficult to own a car in Beijing.

可能我觉得拥有一辆汽车

Maybe I feel like owning a car.

所给所给你带来的

What it brings you.

负担也很多很多

There are also a lot of burdens.

其实它就是一个代步工具

In fact, it is just a means of transportation.

你把它看懂

You understand it.

我觉得对

I think it's right.

除了我们每个人的这种小宇宙之外呢

Besides this little universe within each of us,

我们其实可以把我们的目光放到整个的这个大的一个汽车的一个大的环境中

We can actually focus our attention on the larger automotive environment as a whole.

汽车工业跟我所从事的媒体行业一样

The automotive industry is similar to the media industry I am involved in.

包括二位从事的这个对吧

Including the two of you who are engaged in this, right?

秦宫是做电电力行业

Qin Palace is in the electric power industry.

DEMON是一个搞音乐的

DEMON is someone who creates music.

我们所面临的产业都在发生了巨变

The industries we are facing are undergoing significant changes.

对其实都是有关系的

It is all related to it, in fact.

对吧

Right?

秦宫他已经投身在新能源汽车这种这个行业

Qin Gong has already devoted himself to the new energy vehicle industry.

而DEMON你的这个从你咱们小时候听的磁带到CD到面临全面的音乐数字化

And DEMON, your journey from the tapes we listened to when we were kids to CDs is now facing comprehensive music digitization.

这个巨变是难以

This 巨变 is difficult to...

我其实就是说我其实对像出口级出口级这个概念

What I actually mean is that I have a certain understanding of the concept of export-level quality.

我以前就是说对这个理解就特别深

I used to have a particularly deep understanding of this.

因为真的就是过去是从一个纯票友的

Because in the past, it really was just from a pure fan perspective.

音乐爱好者的一个角度

From the perspective of a music enthusiast.

然后最后发展成就是就是厚脸皮说叫专业DJ吧

Then it ultimately developed into being thick-skinned and calling myself a professional DJ.

但我觉得这真是一个过程

But I think this is really a process.

就是我觉得现在在中国其实很多事情是这样

I think many things in China are like this now.

就是以前在小时候受那种教育

It was that kind of education received when I was a child.

你就不可能是变成那样什么的

You could never become something like that.

虽然每个小孩都想成为科学家

Although every child wants to become a scientist.

但是我觉得就是以前的那种就是状态

But I feel it's just that same kind of state as before.

就觉得这辈子可能我就在这了

I just feel like I might be here for this lifetime.

你看就和好多人说起来

You see, it’s just like what many people say.

就说我以前学计算机的

Just say I used to study computer science.

然后说啊

Then say ah.

然后那个但是你的这些职业转变都太大了

Then, those career changes of yours are too drastic.

其实我觉得这个其实本身是

Actually, I think this itself is.

就是这么一个过程

It's just such a process.

但是不能否认你的这种职业的转变

But it cannot be denied that your career change.

跟音乐的数字化是有关系的

It is related to the digitization of music.

当然

Of course.

对不对

Correct or not?

它会造成很多人再去实现自己的这种音乐梦想方面

It will cause many people to pursue their musical dreams again.

可能更不是能说更便捷

It may not be said to be more convenient.

但是可能更得到捷径

But there might be a shortcut.

或者是更容易一些

Or it could be easier.

或者更触手可及一些

Or perhaps a little more within reach.

是

Yes.

在我刚才回到我们刚才说的产业

Back to the industry we just talked about.

汽车产业在面临巨大的变化

The automobile industry is facing significant changes.

而这个变化核心就是民园

And the core of this change is the People's Park.

就是很多人甚至我们最近也听说

Many people, including us, have heard recently that...

有的品牌说可能

Some brands say it's possible.

在2035年可能就没有纯粹的烧油的车

By 2035, there may be no purely gasoline-powered cars.

对

Correct.

使在路上

Make it on the road.

不是

No.

就是其他的

It's just the others.

比如轻动力

For example, light power.

或者是这个我们说的纯电

Or it could be what we refer to as pure electric.

或者是更先进的

Or perhaps more advanced.

我们现在还不知道的一些先进技术

Some advanced technologies that we still do not know about.

但是真正的那纯电燃机的汽车

But the real pure electric engine cars.

也许在20年以后就会远离我们的生活

Maybe in 20 years, it will be far away from our lives.

你要想开那个可能会付出很大的代价

You need to understand that this might come with a great cost.

所以我们这些玩老汽车的人

So we people who play with old cars

是

Yes

对

Correct.

preparing

preparing

做选择

Make a choice.

到那一天

Until that day.

你就没有A可以选择

You have no option A to choose from.

你在B1

You are in B1.

B2

B2

B3

B3

B4里头做选择

Make choices inside B4.

其实像您

Actually, like you.

像您这么说

Just as you said.

其实也许有一天

Maybe one day.

像您的所有的这些老爷车

Like all of your classic cars.

他们有可能都换成火波动力

They are likely to switch to flame wave power.

甚至又有可能

It is even possible.

他们有一天都变成轻动力的

They all became lightweight one day.

也说不准

It's hard to say.

你看很多人

You see many people.

老爷车

classic car

那咱就不是徐老师喜欢那老爷车了

Then we are not like the vintage cars that Teacher Xu likes.

没有

No.

然后里面配上震动和绝佳的音响

Then it's equipped with vibrations and excellent sound.

开起来那声

The sound when it starts up.

给老爷车

Give to the old car.

我觉得戴蒙说的是

I think what Damon said is

当然我对这种

Of course, I'm interested in this kind of...

就是用音响来

It's just using the speakers.

然后

Then

模仿发动机声音是比较抵触的

Mimicking the sound of an engine is quite controversial.

我觉得没必要

I think it's unnecessary.

但是我觉得当年

But I think back then

比如说像我当年70年代的时候

For example, like when I was in the 1970s.

像我的280SE

Like my 280SE.

那会是第一批电动门窗

That would be the first batch of electric windows.

然后自动变速箱

Then the automatic transmission.

就那会的车主买新车的时候

At that time, car owners bought new cars.

加利福尼亚一明星

A star from California.

买了一280SE Coupe 3.5

Bought a 280SE Coupe 3.5.

我说是不是会有一天

I wonder if there will be a day.

大家会觉得这种车

Everyone will think this kind of car

就会变成老爷车了

It will become a vintage car.

我现在是我开着全世界最好的车

I am now driving the best car in the world.

而且我们现在也是这样

And we are like this now too.

我们现在谈论混合动力的车型

We are now discussing hybrid models.

当然它有可能在某年某月某一天

Of course, it is possible on a certain year, month, and day.

就是一款经典车

It's a classic car.

而在我们的汽车的发展史上

And in the history of the development of our cars

有它的特殊的一页

It has its own special page.

所以我们想每个品牌

So we want every brand.

他们在努力的付出这么多的钱

They are working hard to spend so much money.

这么多的人力物力精力

So much human resources, material resources, and energy.

去打造新的技术

To create new technology.

新的能源的概念

The concept of new energy.

其实也是为了这个品牌

In fact, it is also for this brand.

能够有一个长足发展的立脚点

To have a solid foundation for significant development.

你现在还没有启动

You haven't started yet.

去做新能源汽车的集团品牌

Go create a group brand for new energy vehicles.

还有吗

Is there more?

除了一些很小的一些手工作坊以外

Except for a few very small workshops.

大部分的所有的集团

Most of all the groups.

都在把目光放在未来

Everyone is focusing on the future.

我们最近知道

We recently found out.

我们就不提品牌了

Let's not mention the brand.

很多清楚在美国发生了柴油的一些事情

Many people are clearly aware of some happenings related to diesel in the United States.

大家可能发现柴油

Everyone may have noticed diesel.

并不像大家想象的那么奇迹

It's not as miraculous as everyone imagines.

对吧

Isn't it?

所以柴油在这件事情之后

So diesel after this matter.

很可能就自动的离开了

It is very likely that they will leave automatically.

对吧

Right?

就是大家很多人在讨论

Many people are discussing it.

为什么大家不推广柴油发动机

Why isn't anyone promoting diesel engines?

或者柴油混动发动机

Or diesel hybrid engine.

柴油这么

Diesel like this.

但事实上大家发现

But in fact, everyone has realized that...

柴油也许不像我们想的那么清洁

Diesel may not be as clean as we think.

只是他们要做的很清洁的样子

They just want to appear very clean.

这件事其实对汽车发展的

This matter is actually related to the development of cars.

影响力也是很大的

The influence is also very significant.

我们今天回到我们今天的话题

Let's return to our topic today.

我们真的是

We really are.

我们如何能够让一个

How can we make a one...

大家都觉得对吧

Everyone thinks so, right?

是不是要很贵

Is it going to be very expensive?

或者是不是会

Or maybe it won't.

如何真的会觉得

How could one really feel?

我们买车的时候

When we buy a car.

是不是考虑一下

Isn't it worth considering?

混合动力的车型

Hybrid vehicle models

也许今天我们所在的时间段

Perhaps the time period we are in today

它就是一个历史性的意义的事情

It is a matter of historical significance.

丰田发布双勤的计划

Toyota announced a plan for dual efforts.

包括广汽丰田他们的雷灵

Including GAC Toyota's Levin.

也推出了双勤的车型

Also launched a model with dual efforts.

这些车型

These car models

它的价格一出来

As soon as its price is announced.

你就会发现

You will find that.

它并不会把它刻意的放在一个

It does not deliberately place it in a...

你要去好好地想一想

You need to think about it carefully.

这么一个高度了

Such a height.

我们再说的稍微的

Let's talk a little more.

离大家生活近一点

Closer to everyone's lives.

就是

Just.

凯美瑞

Camry

对吧

Right?

凯美瑞我们知道

We know about the Camry.

它已经连续了六代和七代

It has lasted for six and seven generations.

现在应该是第八代

It should be the eighth generation now.

凯美瑞的双勤的版本

The dual-drive version of the Camry.

Hybrid版本

Hybrid version

应该都已经推出了

It should have already been launched.

它的价格从当年第一次推出的

Its price has been from the first launch that year.

差不多到10万块钱

Almost 100,000 yuan.

到现在的只差到3万多块钱

Only more than 30,000 yuan is left to reach the goal now.

我觉得这已经是一个变化

I think this is already a change.

很大的变化

A big change.

而我们媒体圈很多的老师都开凯美瑞的

Many teachers in our media circle drive Camrys.

就是混动的版本

It's the hybrid version.

他们认为各方面都

They believe in all aspects.

非常能够达到他们的标准

Can definitely meet their standards.

当然这个也是一种

Of course, this is also a kind.

媒体老师还是要装一些态度

Media teachers still need to put on some attitude.

我们是汽车媒体

We are an automotive media.

您说装态度

You said to act aloof.

我倒觉得

I actually think that.

你看我第一次听说

You see, this is the first time I've heard of it.

普雷斯这个车

The Prius car.

比较流行的是美国

The more popular one is the United States.

我觉得在我心中

I feel in my heart.

美国人民一直都是那种

The American people have always been the kind of...

大柴油车

Large diesel truck

空空猛轰

Empty empty heavy bombardment.

他们走极端那块的

They go to extremes in that area.

你知道吗

Do you know?

但是

But

就是这样

That's it.

就是

That's it.

你得在哪

Where do you have to be?

在这个农村

In this rural area.

德克塔斯

Deckard's

我觉得普雷斯可能就

I think Pres might just be...

但是普雷斯的

But Preiss's

其实全世界就是销的最好的地方

In fact, the whole world is the best place for sales.

就是卡利福尼亚

It's just California.

就是加利福尼亚

It's California.

因为加州

Because of California

它是全世界最严格的

It is the strictest in the world.

这个

This

就是排放的

It's just the emissions.

这个标准的这个控制

The control of this standard.

那为什么这次

Then why this time?

这个北美这次柴油门

The diesel scandal in North America this time.

他也是有几个州发现

He also discovered several states.

这个为什么有问题

Why is there a problem with this?

他发现

He discovered.

其实加州是最严格的

In fact, California is the strictest.

我给你举个例子

Let me give you an example.

在加州

In California.

高速公路

Expressway

它最礼道

It is the most courteous.

是一个特殊的一个

It is a special one.

叫carpool

It's called carpooling.

对

Yes.

就这个道上只有三种车可以开

Only three types of vehicles are allowed on this road.

一个是车里只有一个人的车

One is a car with only one person inside.

对

Yes.

一个是车里

One is in the car.

一个是

One is

对不起

I'm sorry.

两个人

Two people.

一个是车里没有不止一个人的

One is that there is not just one person in the car.

对

Yes.

人就是超过两个人

A person is someone who surpasses two or more people.

含两个人的

Containing two people.

可以开这道

Can you open this dish?

然后就是

And then there is...

所有的特殊车辆

All special vehicles.

可以开这道

Can this be opened?

救护车

Ambulance

警车

Police car

各种车辆

Various vehicles

然后就是新能源汽车

Then there are new energy vehicles.

所以就是当堵车

So it's just like being stuck in traffic.

这边堵的跟什么似的

The traffic here is jammed like crazy.

那搜搜的

That search search.

对

Yes.

你的

yours

一人开也不行

One person can't do it either.

但是你一个人开

But you are driving alone.

混合动力

Hybrid power

新能源就可以

New energy is fine.

就可以

That's fine.

这是一个很人性化的一个道理

This is a very user-friendly principle.

我觉得就是说

I think it means that...

政策的支持

Support from policies

对新能源的汽车的发展

The development of new energy vehicles.

是非常重要的

It is very important.

我们就是因为

It is precisely because of us.

他连号都不用抽了

He doesn't even need to draw a number anymore.

所以哥几个都琢磨着

So the guys are all thinking about it.

对

Correct.

但是现在不用抽号

But now there's no need to draw lots.

可能是仅仅停留在

It may just stay at.

在

At

纯电的车上

On a pure electric vehicle

纯电的车

Pure electric car

混动可能还得需要

Hybrid may still be needed.

因为混动的车型比较多

Because there are many hybrid models.

但是纯电的车

But pure electric cars

基础设施建设

Infrastructure construction

你要跟不上

You need to keep up.

对

Correct.

这个是最大的问题

This is the biggest problem.

我觉得其实最大问题

I think the biggest problem is actually...

一个是说

One is to say

刚才说那个比较弱智

What was just said is somewhat foolish.

叫电池恐惧症

It's called battery phobia.

但是更多的

But more of it

我觉得没有人

I think there is no one.

他有太多的条件

He has too many conditions.

自己在自己家里面

At home by oneself.

能装一个充电桩

Can install a charging station.

我觉得你有别墅

I think you have a villa.

要装充电桩不是问题

Installing a charging pile is not a problem.

如果你住小区什么的

If you live in a neighborhood or something like that.

就是这个

This is it.

我个人觉得是一个问题

I personally think it is a problem.

肯定是这样

It must be so.

他要求的政策现在太

The policy he requested is now too...

所以我觉得

So I think

Hybrid

Hybrid

混合动力

Hybrid动力

也就是我们在

That is, we are in...

这个丰台的平台上

On this platform in Fengtai.

叫双勤

Called Shuangqin.

我觉得这个对

I think this is correct.

我觉得对我们的

I think about us.

这个日常的

This is everyday.

我们的驾驶来说

For our driving.

应该是一个相对来说

It should be relatively.

比较合理的一个解决方案

A relatively reasonable solution.

无论是从实用性

Whether from a practicality standpoint

方便性

Convenience

还是从价格方面

Still from the price aspect.

可能都是更实用的

It might all be more practical.

所以我们现在也许

So maybe we now...

发现就是说

Discovery means to say.

身边的很多朋友

Many friends around me.

其实现在已经这样了

In fact, it is already like this now.

雷萨斯也好

Reissas is fine too.

丰田也好

Toyota is also good.

包括其他品牌的

Including other brands.

混合动力车型

Hybrid vehicles

已经不是

Not anymore.

一个让人觉得

One that makes people feel

你这人有什么问题

What's wrong with you?

为什么要开一个

Why open one?

混合动力的车型

Hybrid vehicle models

现在这种问题

Such problems now.

在三年以前

Three years ago

两年以前有人问

Two years ago, someone asked.

现在已经没有人问了

Now no one is asking anymore.

但我是觉得

But I feel that...

如果比较混合动力

If comparing hybrid power.

和新能源的车

and new energy vehicles

我觉得对我一个

I think it's for me alone.

只是拿车

Just take the car.

做代步工具的人来讲

For those who make mobility tools.

这个概念

This concept

我觉得更容易接受

I find it easier to accept.

因为毕竟电车

Because after all, it's an electric vehicle.

你会有诸多的考虑

You will have many considerations.

你还会考虑

You will still consider.

它的车的各种各样问题

Various problems with its car.

会不会没电

Will it run out of battery?

但是混合动力

But hybrid power

其实你没有什么

Actually, you have nothing.

顾虑

Concerns

你开着车

You are driving a car.

你还是要加油

You still need to keep it up.

但是它自动有一个

But it automatically has one.

这种油电的切换

The switch between oil and electricity.

应该是

It should be.

它在路上

It is on the way.

你就不用担心

You don't have to worry.

我不知道我理解对不对

I don't know if I understand correctly.

反正我开那车的时候

Anyway, when I drive that car...

我感觉就是起步的时候

I feel it is just the beginning.

它完全都用的是电

It operates entirely on electricity.

对

Correct.

然后等你到了

Then wait until you arrive.

一定的速度的时候

At a certain speed.

它就油就接入了

It just got connected to the oil.

对

Yes.

它这个就是

This is it.

其实除了我们觉得

In fact, besides what we think.

节能省

Energy saving and efficiency

节能减排以外

Apart from energy conservation and emission reduction

它最大的好处

Its biggest benefit.

就是电这东西

It's just electricity.

它是不需要

It is not necessary.

扭矩的一个积累过程

A process of accumulating torque.

对

Yes.

因为你不管是自自吸

Because you are either self-absorbed.

还是涡轮

Still a turbine.

增压

Boosting

它在扭矩到峰值的时候

It reaches peak torque.

都是有一个爬升过程

There is always a process of gradual ascent.

有的爬得慢点

Some crawl a little slower.

有的爬得快点

Some climb a bit faster.

因为它是一个线性的直流

Because it is a linear direct current.

电这个是直接一脚

Electricity is just a direct kick.

就扭矩就是最高

It's all about the torque, that's the highest.

所以就是启动的时候

So it's when starting up.

用电是非常爽的

Using electricity is very enjoyable.

为什么开那些电动跑车

Why drive those electric sports cars?

什么的一脚

What a kick!

都可火了

Everything is on fire.

吓死谁呢

Who are you scaring?

但是那车又既跑不了

But that car can't run either.

很高的急速

Very high speed.

它又没有一个很高的

It doesn't have a very high one.

一个续航里程

A range of endurance.

还是说

Or say.

纯电

Pure electric

就是所以说

That's why I say.

就是在这个

It's right here.

我觉得还是

I still think that...

不管是

No matter what

我觉得现在跑车

I think sports cars are great now.

我也偏向混动

I also prefer hybrids.

对

Correct.

我也不希望

I don't wish for that either.

因为它刹车的时候

Because it brakes.

还能回收你的制动力

You can still recycle your braking force.

然后去充电

Then go to charge.

进入我们的生活

Enter our lives.

就需要两点

Just need two points.

秦工

Qin Gong

你的专家

Your expert.

一个是成熟的技术

One is a mature technology.

一个是便宜的车价

One is the cheap car price.

就这两点

Just these two points.

其实没有任何其他的门槛

In fact, there are no other thresholds.

而这两点

And these two points.

我觉得

I think.

其实咱们今天聊的

Actually, what we're talking about today...

丰田其实做的都不错

Toyota actually does quite well.

我给你们问一

I'll ask you one.

你们俩一个问题

You two have a question.

徐老师问二位一个问题

Teacher Xu asked the two of you a question.

你们猜猜

Guess what?

TOYOTA

TOYOTA

它截止今年的夏天

It is until this summer.

它会不会

Will it?

它们的火鹰动力车型

Their Fire Eagle power models.

在全球的销售

Global sales

大概有多少辆

Approximately how many vehicles are there?

你们不能查资料

You cannot check the information.

你们必须得猜

You must guess.

我给你们仨数

I'm counting to three for you three.

300万

3 million

500万

5 million

700万

7 million

我问你700万

I ask you for 7 million.

500万

5 million

我觉得这个人

I think this person.

他就是挑你说的

He is just picking on what you said.

因为他想我可能

Because he thinks I might.

还真是

Indeed.

我跟你说都不对

I'm telling you, it's all wrong.

因为我就知道

Because I just know.

你要说700万

You want to say 7 million.

我就仨都不对

I’m not right about any of the three.

是800万

It is 8 million.

就给你设一套

I'll set up a system for you.

对

Yes.

不敢答对了

I dare not answer correctly.

全球保有量800万辆

The global stock is 8 million vehicles.

这是一个什么样的概念

What kind of concept is this?

大家都想想

Everyone think about it.

这车卖的这么多

This car sells so well.

它一定是一个技术平台技术

It must be a technology platform.

非常成熟的一个车

A very mature car.

我其实当时买车

I actually bought a car back then.

就是人家说

That's what people say.

你要是不懂

If you don't understand.

你就看哪个车保有量高

Just look at which car has a high ownership rate.

没错

That's right.

对这样就肯定有保证

There must be assurance in this way.

而且就是说

Moreover, it means that...

这样

This way.

就是说

That is to say.

你要是半路趴窝了

If you break down halfway.

都有人好修

Everyone has their strengths.

你说销量也不好

You said the sales aren't good either.

你买的追时髦

You bought the trendy fashion.

对于我这种人来讲

For someone like me

就是代步什么的

It's just for transportation and things like that.

肯定就不合适

Definitely not suitable.

对

Yes.

你看看其他的几个

Take a look at the other few.

比如德系的某个平台

For example, a certain platform from Germany.

当然我们不说ABB了

Of course, we won't talk about ABB anymore.

太高

Too high.

大众集团

Volkswagen Group

这边是美国总是把新能源技术

Here in the United States, new energy technology is always a priority.

挂在嘴边的通用集团

The General Motors Group that is often mentioned.

你看看他们这些年卖出了多少辆新能源汽车

Look at how many new energy vehicles they have sold over the years.

咱们就不在这说数字了

Let's not talk about numbers here.

你再看看这个数字

Take another look at this number.

你就知道在技术成熟度方面

You just know in terms of technological maturity.

肯定是这样

It must be so.

而且你就明白为什么今天能够

And then you will understand why it is possible today.

丰田能够发布

Toyota is able to release.

双勤技术

Double diligence technology

能够以这么低的价格

Able to do it at such a low price.

在卖它的国产的混合动力车型

Selling its domestic hybrid models.

这都不是偶然的

This is not a coincidence.

不是说好像在时当年的赔本转销

Isn't it said that it's like a loss-making write-off from back in the day?

它已经真正的让这种车型

It has truly made this model.

真正的变成我们出售可期的车型

The truly anticipated models we sell.

其实就还是以稳扎稳打的过程

In fact, it is still a process of steady and solid progress.

不是那种

Not that kind.

你这四个字说的太对了

What you said in these four words is absolutely right.

这四个字就是丰田

These four characters mean Toyota.

它能够成为当今世界最大的汽车集团

It is capable of becoming the largest automotive group in the world today.

稳扎稳打

Steady and solid progress.

特别特别丰田

Especially special Toyota

你说这四个字就是丰田的战略

You say these four words are Toyota's strategy.

它就是一步一个脚印的

It is about taking one step at a time.

在做本土化

Doing localization.

在做一个技术的推广

Promoting a technology.

其实就是说挺不容易的

In fact, it is quite difficult.

对因为我觉得毕竟确实像您说

Yes, because I feel that it is indeed as you said.

就是像怎么说

It's just like how to say.

现在很多新的技术出现

Many new technologies are emerging now.

或者其实有点

Or maybe a little bit.

我觉得对很多各个行业都是有点乱阵脚

I think it's a bit chaotic for many industries.

就忽然会被一种新的东西就打乱刺去了

Suddenly, it might be disrupted by something new.

所以就是说

So, what you mean is...

我其实面临的看到很多东西

I actually face and see many things.

就是很多产品或者怎么样

It's just that there are many products or something like that.

就是那种不行

It's just that kind of thing that doesn't work.

哥们拼了

Bro, I'm going all out.

就是这代就是血本无归那种不挣钱

It's this generation that is losing everything without making any profit.

但是先占一市场份额

But first, occupy a market share.

但我觉得丰田应该是不会这样

But I don't think Toyota would do that.

他既然说能能推出一个

Since he said he could come up with one.

就是大众那种价格的东西

It's something at a大众 (大众 meaning "popular" or "mass market") price.

肯定是也是就这么一步积累过来的

It must have been accumulated step by step like this.

对在当下来说

For the present moment

肯定这是一个非常好的解决方案

Definitely, this is a very good solution.

对但是今天我们对吧

Yes, but today we are together, right?

这个我们这个唐宋爱汽车

This is our Tang and Song love for cars.

我们还是要发散的一个思维

We still need to have a divergent way of thinking.

我们谈到潮流

We talk about trends.

谈到我们不能老是谈到出手客机

We can't always talk about getting passenger planes off the ground.

因为我们刚才已经说了很多出手客机

Because we have already talked a lot about passenger planes.

那我们能不能谈到

Then can we talk about it?

为什么

Why?

未来的出手客机

Future passenger aircraft

因为现在我们谈论的混合动力技术

Because the hybrid technology we are discussing now...

在十年以前也是非常非常出不可及的

It was extremely unattainable ten years ago as well.

谁会对吧

Who would agree?

多贵呀那会儿

How expensive it was back then!

当电池能够有突破的时候

When the battery can have breakthroughs.

我相信大家能做出最有逼格的电动汽车

I believe everyone can create the most high-end electric car.

我听很多人也是在说这个

I've heard many people talking about this too.

大家都会说电池是电动车发展的一个最重要的一个关键

Everyone would say that batteries are a key factor in the development of electric vehicles.

那我还听听一个朋友跟我说一概念

Then I will listen to a friend who talked to me about a concept.

他把他想研发一种电池

He wants to develop a type of battery.

这种电池呢

This type of battery.

它会在像加油站一样的这个地方

It will be in a place like a gas station.

甚至在加油站里就有

Even in the gas station, there is.

它不是像现在这样

It's not like this now.

它是可以换的

It is replaceable.

就是你抽出来以后插上一新的

Just take it out and plug in a new one.

然后把这个充上电

Then charge this.

就是你只要买一块电池

You just need to buy a battery.

然后慢慢的就是交钱换电池

Then slowly, it's paying to change the battery.

我刚开始头五年做的全都是换电池这件事

The first five years I worked were all about changing batteries.

但是现在已经不靠谱

But now it is no longer reliable.

做了巨多的机械手

Made a huge number of robotic hands.

各种各样的机器人

Various kinds of robots.

我都研究过

I have studied all of it.

但是这个电池是电池本身的问题吗

But is the problem with this battery itself?

对

Yes.

这是电池本身的问题

This is a problem with the battery itself.

我就问您一个问题

I just want to ask you a question.

如果我这有我这一个电池换电站有几百块电池

If I have a battery swap station here with hundreds of batteries.

然后您是一个新能源车的用户

Then you are a user of a new energy vehicle.

到了我这我把您的电池换走了

I replaced your battery when it got to me.

换上了我的

Changed into my

我这里面电池

I have a battery here.

但是我的您的是一块新的电池

But yours is a new battery.

我的电池寿命只有两年

My battery life is only two years.

您能愿意吗

Are you willing?

这个东西就是一个这个肯定

This thing is definitely this.

物联网的一个概念

A concept of the Internet of Things.

对因为这个电池本身其实是不归这个人的

This battery actually does not belong to this person.

对

Correct.

就是你买你买这电池回家

Just buy this battery and take it home.

对

Correct.

这电池也不是你的

This battery is not yours either.

这电池是一公用的东西

This battery is a common item.

对应该是这种

It should be this kind.

但是那些最后这些都淘汰的电池

But those batteries that were eliminated in the end.

这个淘汰率就非常非常高

The elimination rate is extremely high.

这都淘汰电池

This has all been phased out for batteries.

我们能怎么办

What can we do?

这个电池即使它只有两年的寿命

This battery has a lifespan of only two years.

我在下次换电池的时候也会被换走

I will also be replaced when I change the battery next time.

对不对

Is that right?

那这种东西我觉得不是问题

I don't think that kind of thing is a problem.

还是技术层面

Still on the technical level.

是不是有这种就是电池可以插上就走

Is there something like a battery that can just be plugged in and used?

然后然后没电就换

Then, then switch when there's no power.

我觉得这个应该是

I think this should be...

我们一直都在咱们跑的公交车

We have always been on the bus we take.

百分之八十都是

Eighty percent are.

对

Yes.

到那去换的

Go there to exchange it.

对

Yes.

都是用机械手摘下来

They are all picked by robotic arms.

然后一个公交车上有八组

Then there are eight groups on the bus.

我觉得这是很有意思的一个发展方向

I think this is a very interesting direction for development.

就是不同的企业

It's just different companies.

不同的企业文化

Different corporate cultures

不同的品牌特征

Different brand characteristics

它旗下的技术

The technology under its umbrella.

其实是有强烈的品牌特色

In fact, there is a strong brand identity.

对

Correct.

有的品牌就是要做更多的尝试

Some brands need to make more attempts.

它总是把它做成边缘化的东西

It always marginalizes things.

重点还是卖它那个油的东西

The focus is still on selling that oil product.

那些

Those

但是呢

But then

丰田它就

Toyota just it.

它一直很认真的在做混合的东西

It has been seriously mixing things.

在做这个

Doing this.

它这个技术

This technology of it.

一代一代的

Generation after generation.

看上去

It looks like

可能变化不是特别大

The change may not be particularly significant.

但是它把它做的越来越便宜

But it is making it cheaper and cheaper.

越来越亲民

More and more approachable.

这个其实你从某种角度上想

From a certain perspective, you can think of it this way.

它就是最大的变化

It is the biggest change.

挺不容易的

It's not easy.

你听着好像

It sounds like you are listening.

这跟上一代区别不大

This is not much different from the previous generation.

可能就少点油

Maybe it will be a little less oily.

省了几万块钱

Saved tens of thousands of yuan.

这就很不容易

This is not easy at all.

因为这个就是企业文化的

Because this is the corporate culture.

它的

Its

挺不容易的

It's quite challenging.

而且我觉得就是从小时候

And I think it's since childhood.

那时候就说什么

At that time, they said whatever.

车道山间比有龙

The road in the mountains is more like a dragon.

有楼比有小丰田

Having a building is better than having a small Toyota.

从那时候开始

Since that time.

就是大众的心里面

It is in the hearts of the people.

一直觉得丰田是面对大众的那种

I have always felt that Toyota is the kind of brand that targets the general public.

就是也没有走什么

Just haven't really gone anywhere.

渐走偏锋

Gradually going off on a tangent.

出特个性的东西

Create something unique.

所以我觉得

So I think.

它从生产技术的研发的上面

It is above the research and development of production technology.

肯定就是面向更多大众的东西

It must be something aimed at a wider audience.

其实我听起来

Actually, it sounds to me.

像小秦刚才说的

As Xiao Qin just said.

这些什么电动汽车什么的

What are these electric cars and so on?

因为你说公交系统

Because you mentioned the bus system.

我觉得还是属于国家的运输系统

I still think it belongs to the national transportation system.

所以肯定在成本上

So it definitely involves costs.

是也不太计成本的

It doesn't really consider costs.

但是你到了民用的阶段

But you've reached the civil stage.

一定要像商用的阶段

It must be like the commercial stage.

肯定就是说成本的东西

It must be something related to costs.

你cover不住的话

If you can't cover it.

技术不成熟

Unmatured technology.

又没有那么多的研发团队

There aren't that many研发 teams.

去投入的商用的

Go into commercial investment.

那么这东西肯定就不成立

Then this thing must be invalid.

我觉得像丰田他们坐车

I think driving cars like Toyota is great.

他肯定是第一考证了

He must have passed the exam first.

大众的那种商用级别的这种应用

The kind of commercial-level application for the general public.

所以他肯定在取舍上面

So he is definitely making some trade-offs.

肯定还会去往这个方向

Definitely will head in this direction again.

但是我现在就想把这个话题

But I want to talk about this topic right now.

稍微转一个方向

Slightly change direction.

我们说了太多的丰田

We have said too much about Toyota.

他们和雷克萨斯

They and Lexus.

他们在这个领域

They are in this field.

做了很多亲密化的尝试

Made many attempts to become closer.

但是你们发现了没有

But have you noticed?

这两个品牌

These two brands

在过去的两年

In the past two years.

他们在另外一个层面

They are on another level.

做了大量的

Did a lot of.

改变

Change

就是设计

It's all about design.

就是丰田和雷克萨斯

It's Toyota and Lexus.

我觉得在过去两年

I think in the past two years

我不知道你们俩认识到了没有

I don't know if you two know each other yet.

他们的设计发生了太大的变化

Their design has undergone too much change.

他们在设计方面

They are in terms of design.

真的是往新潮

Really moving towards the new trend.

往时尚

Fashion forward

或者往

Or towards.

就是以前我们所不太熟悉的

It is something we weren't very familiar with before.

丰田

Toyota

他所涵盖的领域

The areas he covers.

走了一大步

Took a big step.

这真的

This is really.

你看现在雷克萨斯的设计

Look at the design of Lexus now.

跟三年以前

Compared to three years ago.

差的太多了

It's too different.

他真的是变了

He has really changed.

非常有意思

Very interesting.

现在

Now

而且你发现没有

And did you notice?

他这么犀利的设计

His design is so sharp.

并不让人讨厌

Not annoying at all.

并不让人觉得

does not make one feel

这车怎么这样了

What's wrong with this car?

他挺受欢迎的

He is quite popular.

对吧

Right?

包括丰田

Including Toyota.

这么一个

Such a one.

我们认为他在设计上

We believe he has a talent for design.

从来不会去冒险的品牌

A brand that never takes risks.

他现在在很多的车型上

He is now in many models.

都变化挺大

A lot has changed.

你就雷灵

You are the Thunder Spirit.

其实这个车型

In fact, this car model.

我们可能不是特别熟悉

We might not be especially familiar.

其实他的基础

In fact, his foundation.

就是美版的卡罗拉

It's just the American version of the Corolla.

但是他其实比那个车型

But he is actually better than that model.

做的设计上的细节上

In the details of the design.

更有时尚感

More fashionable.

你看到雷灵这个车

Did you see the Lei Ling car?

对吧

Right?

它是我们广泉丰田的一个新的产品

It is a new product from Guoquan Toyota.

这次也会推出双勤的双勤版本

This time, a dual-duty version will also be launched.

雷灵很多人可能觉得

Many people may feel that Rey Ling...

这个车是大概的定位

This car is roughly positioned.

它其实就是运动加时尚

It is actually a combination of sports and fashion.

这个车它的发动机本身配置就比较多

This car's engine itself is equipped with many features.

加上现在出了一个混合动力的双勤版本

In addition, there is now a hybrid dual-duty version available.

而这个车的外形设计

And the design of this car's exterior

也跟我们普通上的印象中的丰田

It also matches our usual impression of Toyota.

不太一样

Not quite the same.

很伶俐

Very clever.

很锐利

Very sharp.

而且很有小跑车的感觉

And it feels very much like a sports car.

这个也是我觉得丰田

This is also what I think about Toyota.

他在打造自己的产品多元化

He is working on diversifying his products.

多方位化方面

In terms of diversification.

一个很大的尝试

A very big attempt.

我们不甘于做一个平庸的

We are not willing to be mediocre.

然而一说到丰田就是中庸二字

However, when it comes to Toyota, the word that comes to mind is "moderation."

对吧

Right?

他除了在技术方面做到更亲民之外

In addition to making technology more accessible, he...

让更多的技术走进百姓家之外

Let more technology enter into the homes of ordinary people.

他在整体的气质方面变得更时尚

He has become more fashionable in terms of overall temperament.

更年轻化

More youthful

我觉得这是一个非常有趣的一个他们一个战略

I think this is a very interesting strategy of theirs.

我们真的可以聊聊这个事情

We can really talk about this matter.

技术更加的亲民

Technology is becoming more user-friendly.

设计反而更加的年轻化

The design has become even more youthful.

对吧

Right?

新化人觉得丰田也能变成这个样子

People in Xinhua believe that Toyota can also become this way.

我觉得这个确实是一个特别值得玩味的事情

I think this is indeed something particularly worth pondering.

因为我作为一个就是说汽车代步的人

Because I am someone who uses a car for transportation.

我觉得买车的人大概就是只分两种

I think there are probably just two kinds of people who buy cars.

一种就是看外观

One way is to look at the appearance.

看外形

Look at the shape.

你比如像我太太

For example, my wife.

就是我最近跟小秦集中讨论的一个话题

It’s a topic that I recently focused on discussing with Xiao Qin.

就是我们俩特别喜欢一个车

It’s just that the two of us really like the same car.

然后我太太说这个车就是不能买

Then my wife said this car just can't be bought.

如果要买了咱们就走吧

If we're going to buy it, let's go.

就是民政处走一趟

It's just a trip to the Civil Affairs Bureau.

领一张

Take one.

然后说为什么

Then say why.

说这个就是说觉得他觉得外观

What this means is that he feels about the appearance.

喜欢

Like

那我跟小秦就觉得我说

Then Xiao Qin and I feel that I say

小秦

Little Qin

我说你赶紧

I said you hurry up.

你你赶紧把车买了

Hurry up and buy the car.

那天带咱们去迷人水库吃水库鱼

That day, they took us to Charming Reservoir to eat reservoir fish.

让他体验一下

Let him have a try.

但是我觉得对于更多的消费者

But I think for more consumers

其实就像我太太的一样

In fact, it's just like my wife's.

他们其实注重的是外观

What they actually care about is appearance.

就是那另外一部分就是忠实的汽车爱好者

The other part is the loyal car enthusiasts.

那可能就比如说在在动力上面会有讲究

That might mean that there will be particular considerations regarding power.

但是这个人群

But this group of people

我觉得在作为就是汽车厂商

I think being a car manufacturer is important.

他们考虑的更多是一个制衡嘛

What they are considering more is a system of checks and balances.

就那我觉得丰田的这上面就是叫您身体现的说

I think Toyota's here is just what you embody.

在外观上

In appearance

有一个提高或者有一种转变

There is an improvement or a transformation.

其实也是为了迎合那部分的消费者的那种

In fact, it is also to cater to that segment of consumers.

就是观观念吧

It's just a matter of perspective.

勇于去拓宽自己的这个这个客户群体

Dare to expand your customer base.

这是一个挺有意思的

This is quite interesting.

他对吧

He is right.

因为以前我都想不到

Because I couldn't think of it before.

就是丰田还怕别人说自己中庸吗

Does Toyota still worry about being called mediocre?

还怕人说自己的外表过于朴实

Still afraid of others saying that one's appearance is too plain.

这不就是本身就是一个非常朴实无华的

Isn't this just something very plain and unpretentious itself?

这个兢兢业业的在做汽车

This diligent person is working on cars.

为全世界人民在造车的平台

A platform for car manufacturing for people all over the world.

但是他们现在的设计真的是在探索

But their current design is truly exploring.

我觉得雷克萨斯

I think Lexus.

他敢把NX RX IX甚至马上要上市的LX

He dares to take on the NX, RX, IX, and even the soon-to-be-released LX.

这个LS都变成那样子

This LS has become like that.

是需要勇气的

It requires courage.

今天我们趁着这个这个这个丰田双琴

Today we take advantage of this Toyota Twin-Turbo.

雷灵双琴的这个这个发布

The release of the Thunder Spirit Twin Lute.

我们聊聊这个这个丰田

Let's talk about this Toyota.

这个对我们这个唐僧爱奇艺车来说

This is for our Tang Seng iQIYI car.

可不对我许球来说也是一个非常新鲜的东西

It can also be something very fresh for me regarding the ball.

我们很少在一起这么聊一个日本品牌的车

We rarely talk like this about a Japanese car brand together.

很少很少

Very rarely.

但是丰田我最喜欢的一款车

But the Toyota car I like the most.

就是他的那个啊

It's that one of his.

阿尔法

Alpha

阿尔法哈特

Alpha Heart

就是保姆车嘛

It's just a nanny car.

卖的很好

Selling very well.

新款的也非常非常的完美

The new model is also very, very perfect.

我觉得

I think.

对他他他会迎合很多人的一些需求

He will cater to many people's needs.

咱们可以聊两句这个保姆车

We can talk a bit about this nanny van.

就是就是为什么这个这个阿尔法这车卖这么好

That's why this Alpha car sells so well.

就是因为他变通

It is precisely because he is flexible.

他知道亚洲人喜欢什么样的保姆车

He knows what kind of SUVs Asians like.

对吧

Right?

他就把一个座位

He just took a seat.

最多俩座位给做舒服的车

The most is two seats for a comfortable car.

就可以了

That's all it takes.

对

Yes.

他不像有的德系车

He is not like some German cars.

他会在这个车作为通铺

He will use this car as a sleeping quarter.

底盘的运动性重要

The mobility of the chassis is important.

就是驾驶员开这个车多爽

It's just so enjoyable for the driver to drive this car.

对他们来说也重要

It is also important to them.

可是对我们大部分的中国的这个需求保姆车的家庭来说

But for most of our Chinese households that have this demand for nannies and cars,

司机开的爽不爽重要吗

Is it important whether the driver drives smoothly or not?

不重要

Not important.

主要是后面人坐着爽不爽

The main thing is whether the people sitting in the back are comfortable or not.

没错

That's right.

一个座位舒服

A seat is comfortable.

两个座位舒服就可以

Two comfortable seats are fine.

但是我不我不否认

But I do not deny.

我是就是某些时候

I am just sometimes.

我觉得

I think.

德系车他的精神值得我们推崇

The spirit of German cars is值得我們推崇.

因为他要求旗下的车在驾驶方面都必须有这个范儿

Because he requires all the cars under his brand to have this style in terms of driving.

这个对我是表示敬意的

This is a sign of respect for me.

但是呢

But, you know...

他未必就适应我们中国的市场

He may not necessarily adapt to our Chinese market.

但是他不影响他成为一款很经典的很有很有范儿的一款一款面包车

However, it does not hinder it from being a very classic and stylish van.

一款商务车

A business vehicle.

但是确实确实那座位要是太硬的话

But indeed, if that seat is too hard...

是啊

Yeah.

你这老板坐四二百公里给老板编坏了

Your boss sat for four hundred kilometers and messed up for the boss.

你说是啊

You said yes.

所以我觉得亚洲亚洲人生产的汽车

So I think the cars produced by Asians in Asia.

还是会优先于亚洲人的那种感受

Will still prioritize that feeling over Asian people's.

舒适共通的

Comfortably universal.

对

Yes.

就是这种这种无微不至的这种关怀体验

It is this kind of meticulous care experience.

可能也是这个品牌

It might also be this brand.

丰田这个品牌

The Toyota brand.

他其实能够一直这么成功的一个原因吧

One of the reasons he has been able to be so successful all along, I guess.

我觉得这个就是他把你的这个内心的需求揣摩的非常的好

I think he has a very good understanding of your inner needs.

而且他对这种潮流的把握

Moreover, his grasp of this trend

有他丰田自己的理解

He has his own understanding of Toyota.

潮流未必是这个对吧

Trends may not be like this, right?

张牙舞爪的那种冲到前面

Charging to the front in a savage and fierce manner.

那种所谓的那种high fashion

That so-called high fashion.

他潮流也是一种把你原来觉得离你生活很遥远的一些先进的东西

His trend is also a way to bring some advanced things that you originally thought were far from your life closer to you.

变得让你能够拿到

Become something that allows you to obtain.

这也是一种对潮流的捕捉

This is also a way of capturing the trend.

我觉得这是一种我们

I think this is a way for us.

这是今天我们讨论这个话题的核心

This is the core of our discussion on this topic today.

特别有意思

Very interesting.

就是什么是潮流的这个进入你的生活

It is about what trends enter your life.

除了我们理解的常规那种以外

Apart from the conventional understanding that we have.

我觉得让一些当初看着和我们遥远的技术

I think it's important to bring some technologies that seemed distant from us closer.

一些新的产品

Some new products

一些科研的科技产品进入我们的生活

Some scientific and technological products have entered our lives.

成为我们日常的使用

Become a part of our daily use.

这也是一种对潮流的一种把握

This is also a way of grasping the trend.

那咱们问徐大儿一问题吧

Then let's ask Xu Da'er a question.

就是说可能相对于尖锐一些啊

It means that it might be relatively sharper.

就是说如果一辆当您不得不选择新能源车的时候

That is to say, if you have to choose a new energy vehicle at a certain time.

您会选择一辆纯电的还是会选择一辆混合动力的呢

Would you choose a purely electric vehicle or a hybrid vehicle?

对我来说

For me

这确实是一个比较难回答的问题

This is indeed a relatively difficult question to answer.

我个人目前还没有考虑到

I personally have not thought about it yet.

要换一辆新能源车

I want to switch to a new energy vehicle.

因为我是一个小车的这个车主

Because I am the owner of a small car.

就是我这么多年

It's been me all these years.

不管我的经济实力能够让我买多大的车

No matter how much my financial capacity allows me to buy a big car.

我们家的车一直是小车

Our family's car has always been a small car.

然后就不说我开什么车

Then I won't say what car I'm driving.

我们家就是从多少年以前到现在

Our family has been like this for many years now.

一直就是很小的车

It's always been a very small car.

很多人说你那么大个

Many people say you are so big.

你全家都那么高

Your whole family is so tall.

像我俩孩子现在越长越高

Just like our two kids are growing taller and taller now.

就你们坐得下吗

Can you all fit?

是啊

Yes.

但是事实上是坐得下

But the fact is, it can fit.

这个没有问题

This is not a problem.

就是关键是看你对乘坐的时候

The key point is how you feel when riding.

在一个都市你有多少需求

How many needs do you have in a city?

我个人觉得我们中国的消费者

I personally think that our Chinese consumers

有的时候

Sometimes

买车的时候想的太多

Thinking too much when buying a car.

就是想的太全面

Just thinking too comprehensively.

就是所有的东西你都想要

It means you want everything.

这个东西我认为不推荐

I don't recommend this thing.

你还是要把你内心最想要的东西捕捉住

You still need to capture the things you truly desire in your heart.

然后有些需求

Then there are some demands.

像比如你这车连北京市都不会出

For example, this car won't even leave Beijing.

你干嘛要考虑那种

Why do you want to consider that?

或者是你是不是是四五个小时

Or is it that you are four or five hours?

你坐在后边

You sit in the back.

就是扣缩空间

It's just about tightening the space.

天窗

Sunroof

这些东西你没必要都得考虑到

You don't have to consider all these things.

不是就是说

It's not that I mean to say.

还是那句话

Still the same thing.

你买车是为自己

You buy a car for yourself.

而不是跟别人比

Instead of comparing with others.

对吧

Right?

不是比谁配置高

It's not about who has the higher configuration.

这东西就是说

This thing is just saying.

我觉得起码有一些基础的

I think there is at least some basic understanding.

像价格节油

Like the price, save fuel.

对吧

Right?

包括外形的设计

Including the design of the appearance.

舒适性安全性

Comfort and safety

这都是必须要考虑的

These are all factors that must be considered.

但是很多有的东西比较什么都需要

But many things require comparison with others.

包括SUV不光要大

Including SUVs, it shouldn't just be big.

后座要宽敞

The back seat needs to be spacious.

国际还要七个座

The international flight still needs seven seats.

你后座那么宽敞

Your back seat is so spacious.

哪来的第三排座椅的空间

Where is the space for a third-row seat?

你不可能

You can't.

你比如你开公共汽车上

For example, you drive a bus.

有啊

Yes.

丰田就有啊

Toyota has it.

那是全尺寸的

That is full-size.

对吧

Right?

全尺寸的

Full-size

他那Highlander现在

His Highlander now.

全尺寸的

Full size.

对那是全尺寸的

That's full size.

但是他

But he.

卖的非常非常好

Selling extremely well.

对

Yes.

但是他的第二座空间

But his second space

你的老板要坐腾就不行

Your boss can't just take a seat.

对啊

That's right.

我说的是一种就是不合理的需求

What I'm talking about is an unreasonable demand.

对吧

Right?

你把一些全尺寸的SUV

You are comparing some full-size SUVs.

坐的那么大的轴距

Such a long wheelbase to sit on.

那整个是

That whole thing is...

那是美国车

That is an American car.

变态了

It's abnormal.

包括还有宁果车

Including the Ningguo car.

都有

All have.

对

Yes.

就是我们的需求

This is our requirement.

其实简单一点

Actually, it's simpler.

实际一点

Be practical.

对吧

Right?

然后把我们的一些购买的需求

Then, some of our purchasing needs.

往你可能过去没有想过的

To places you may not have thought of before.

比如像混合动力这方面靠一靠

For example, we can rely on hybrid technology in this area.

对吧

Right?

你百公里四升多

You consume more than four liters per hundred kilometers.

那确实跟每百公里八升多

That indeed corresponds to more than eight liters per hundred kilometers.

就是不一样

It's just different.

对不对

Right or wrong?

我听懂了

I understand.

徐老师可能还是会买一个

Teacher Xu might still buy one.

就你们骑那个小牛

Just you riding that little cow.

那个电动

That electric one.

他们要offer我一个

They want to offer me one.

我现在还没完全考虑好

I haven't completely thought it through yet.

因为天冷了

Because it got cold.

我没身子骨

I have no physical strength.

骑摩托车

Riding a motorcycle.

我怕我腰很受不了

I'm afraid my back can't take it.

但是我觉得

But I think.

对吧

Right?

就是这么说吧

Let's put it this way.

戴蒙

Demon

现在让你一个星期去一次加油站

Now you have to go to the gas station once a week.

对

Yes.

那你以后

Then you in the future

我说你换这车以后

I said after you change this car.

你两个星期去一次

You go once every two weeks.

那你肯定会心动

Then you will definitely be moved.

你这么比较就直接了

You're so direct when you compare.

对不对

Right or wrong?

你要是说这个光说四升八升

If you say this, it only refers to four rises and eight rises.

你可能觉得

You might think.

我觉得是这样

I think it's like this.

当我想选择一辆车

When I want to choose a car.

我肯定是先要考虑它的价位

I definitely need to consider its price first.

我得买得起

I have to be able to afford it.

我才能去考虑它的ok

I can only consider it if it's okay.

所以我们今天的话题

So today’s topic is

也是靠着这件

It also relies on this.

对啊

That's right.

我得买得起

I have to be able to afford it.

我才能考虑ok

I can only consider it if it's okay.

我到了这个价位

I've reached this price point.

我有这个几个可选

I have several options for this.

对吧

Right?

我还是您说的

I still agree with what you said.

我想要什么

I want something.

是最重要

It is the most important.

对

Yes.

不能说中国人什么都想要

You can't say that Chinese people want everything.

对

Correct.

我又觉得这个价位的

I feel that this price level is...

那个得起的那个车

That car that can afford.

性能操控

Performance control

特别特别牛

Especially awesome.

对

Yes.

对吧

Right?

然后这边的这个呢

Then what about this one over here?

可能相比之下

Perhaps in comparison.

会有一些区别跟它

There will be some differences compared to it.

但是说这边这个可能百公里

But it's said that this one might be a hundred kilometers.

就跟特别有意思

It's just特别有意思.

我跟我老婆两个人的车

The car belonging to my wife and me.

它百公里

It is a hundred kilometers.

七个有

Seven have.

到八个有

There are up to eight.

我的车百公里

My car can go a hundred kilometers.

十三到十四个有

There are thirteen to fourteen.

ok

Okay

对

Yes.

我们俩同样跑一百公里

We both run a hundred kilometers.

的车

the car

情况下

In this situation

我比他多花一半钱

I spent half as much more money than he did.

真的呀

Really?

对呀

That's right.

就是这样

That's how it is.

我们出行的成本

The cost of our travel.

这就完全不一样

This is completely different.

你要是再

If you do it again

你要是换一个车

If you switch to another car.

你就变成成他的一半了

You will become half of him.

对呀

That's right.

对我们现在这个

Regarding our current situation.

雷雷的双琴

Rei Rei's double lute.

就是四个四声

It's just four fourth tones.

所以我们还是就是说

So we are still saying.

第一点是出不可及

The first point is unattainable.

然后触手可及

Then it's within reach.

一定想好

Make sure to think it through.

你想要

What do you want?

这话题很好玩

This topic is very interesting.

对

Yes.

这两天大家可能耳边

In the past couple of days, everyone might have heard...

会经常听到双琴这个词

You will often hear the term "double piano."

因为这两天这个轮番轰炸

Because of the continuous bombardment over the past two days.

它确实是一个很有意思的概念

It is indeed a very interesting concept.

今天我们来讲一下

Today we will talk about.

今天我们聊到这个雷零的

Today we talked about this Lei Ling.

这个双琴动力的车型上市

This model with dual-tone power is now on the market.

其实更多的就是谈到

Actually, it's more about talking about...

我们刚才说这两点

We just mentioned these two points.

一种是技术的成熟

One is the maturity of technology.

一种是价格的亲民

One is the affordability of the price.

我觉得这两点

I think these two points.

其实都不是出不可及的东西

Actually, none of it is something unattainable.

我相信他在上市时候的价格

I believe in the price when it went public.

肯定是我们老百姓

It must be us ordinary people.

可以触手可及

Within reach.

能够了解到最先进技术的这种

This allows for an understanding of the most advanced technology.

就是混合动力汽车的这么

It is just that hybrid cars are like this.

这么

So this

就是得到体验吧

It's about gaining experience.

就得到

Just get it.

得到真正的驾驶的体验

Experience the true driving experience.

对

Correct.

然后去考验这个技术

Then test this technology.

对

Yes.

其实多年以后

Actually, many years later.

我们回想到今天

We recall today.

我们可能想到我们坐在这

We might think that we are sitting here.

这次唐篡

This time Tang usurpation.

那时候

At that time

也许新能源车

Maybe new energy vehicles.

已经变成我们每个人的座驾了

It has already become the vehicle for each of us.

我觉得最牛逼的

I think it's the coolest.

中国人考验一辆汽车

Chinese people test a car.

或者一个品牌

Or a brand.

或者一件新生事物

Or a new thing.

是最牛逼的

Is the most awesome.

它能从各种角度

It can be viewed from various angles.

怎么说呢

How to say it?

我觉得

I think.

我觉得作为一个

I think as a

因为大家都知道

Because everyone knows.

我玩老爷车

I play with vintage cars.

我家里也有几辆

I also have a few at home.

排量巨大

Huge displacement

巨耗油

Huge oil consumption

我都不敢开出来

I don't even dare to take it out.

不好意思跟人说的车

Sorry, I can’t talk about the car.

一彩之喷油的那种车

A spray-painted car with a colorful design.

后排

Back row

后排机管

Rear air duct

就是

That's it.

能让我哪天

Can you let me know which day?

开上一辆新能源的汽车

Drive a new energy vehicle.

这是一大事

This is a big deal.

我觉得那个时候

I think at that time.

我们可以再坐在一块

We can sit together again.

再坐一期唐僧爱汽车

Let's have another season of the Tang Seng Loves Cars.

我们那会儿

Back in our time.

也许我们三个人家庭里

Perhaps in our three-person family.

都有一辆新能源的汽车

Everyone has a new energy vehicle.

那会儿

At that time.

也许我们又重新找到了

Maybe we've found it again.

我们触不可及的东西

The things we cannot touch.

我们去谈论

Let's go talk.

如何把它变得触手可及

How to make it accessible?

OK

OK

也许那个时间并不会很长

Maybe that time won't be very long.

对

Yes.

并不会很久

It won't take long.

真的

Really.

我喜欢我们今天聊的话题

I enjoyed the topic we talked about today.

有一些

There are some.

比较像

It looks similar.

向上吧

Rise up!

对

Yes.

而且比较

Moreover, comparison.

我觉得其实让我们去思考一下

I think it actually makes us reflect a little.

因为现在处在一个

Because we are currently in a...

汽车的变革时期

The era of transformation in the automobile industry.

其实作为一个

Actually, as a...

old fashion的

old-fashioned

非常非常old fashion的

Very, very old-fashioned.

媒体人和汽车人

Media professionals and automotive professionals

慌了

Panicked.

我内心

My inner heart.

对

Correct.

我内心是有些恐慌的

I feel a bit panicked inside.

就是我钟爱的这个内燃机

This is the internal combustion engine that I love.

真的会走到他的

He will really reach his destination.

这个命运的尽头

The end of this fate.

我当时想说

I was about to say.

我还是钟爱内燃机

I still love internal combustion engines.

但是你无法阻挡历史发展

But you cannot阻挡 the development of history.

对

Yes.

实战车轮的

Practical combat wheels

拼命我的

I will do my best.

就是一样的

It's the same.

就是你这样

It's just like you.

你无法阻止科技的发展

You cannot stop the development of technology.

你不能看到明天

You cannot see tomorrow.

可能就是我这种思想

It could be my way of thinking.

还是那么老

Still the same old.

然后包括我在自己

Then including myself.

在做电动汽车的时候

When making electric vehicles

我觉得这个东西

I think this thing.

真的可以推广吗

Can it really be promoted?

可能我还是停留在

Maybe I'm still stuck at

内燃机的时代

The era of internal combustion engines.

是

Yes.

感谢你们请我来做这期节目

Thank you for inviting me to be a part of this episode.

我特别有感触

I feel特别有感触.

回去我好好琢磨琢磨

I'll think it over carefully when I get back.

我们在一起再做一次

Let's do it together once more.

类似的东西

Similar things

我觉得特别好

I think it's especially good.

对

Yes.

也谢谢徐老师

Thank you, Teacher Xu, as well.

给我们带来这么多

Bring us so much.

我们从来以前没有接触过的

We have never encountered this before.

知识

Knowledge

这我也得消化一年

I also need a year to digest this.

对

Yes.

然后对

Then right.

而且对丰丹的品牌

Moreover, regarding the Fongdan brand.

让我有了一个重新的认识

It gave me a new understanding.

对

Correct.

谢谢

Thank you.

我们听一听好听的音乐

Let's listen to some good music.

好

Good.

舒缓一下

Relax a little.

好

Good

把我们的目光放到

Let's focus on

不久的未来

the near future

对

Correct.

我们现在听到这个歌

We are now listening to this song.

它的名字叫

Its name is

feel the love

感受爱。

下期再见

See you next time.

拜拜

Bye bye

I can feel it, oh

I can feel it, oh

You know I said it too

你知道我也说过这句话。

I can feel that love in your feet too

我也能感受到你脚上的爱。

I can feel it, oh

I can feel it, oh.

Na na na na

Na na na na

No no boy

No no boy

No no no no

No no no no

Oh

Oh

Na na na na

Na na na na

No boy

No boy

No no no no

No no no no

Oh

Oh

Nay

Nay

Na na na

Na na na

May

May

Fa

Fa

May

May

Nay

No.

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