e個世界:上網捉蛤(也母)(84)─網頁編輯工具

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香港電台︰e個世界─上網捉蛤(也母)

e個世界:上網捉蛤(也母)(84)─網頁編輯工具

香港電台︰e個世界─上網捉蛤(也母)

哇,好大隻夾娜呀,真棒呀!

Wow, what a big crab, that's amazing!

真定假呀,哪有這麼大隻夾娜長街條呀?

Is it real or fake? Where is there such a big sidewalk?

哇,捉到了,是真的呀!

Wow, I caught it, it's real!

這個世界,上網捉夾娜!

In this world, go online to catch the "claw machine"!

來到最後一集的上網捉夾娜啦

The final episode of "Catching Up with Jiajia" is here!

如果你是聽開Podcast的朋友呢

If you are a friend who listens to podcasts.

不好意思啦,今天的上網捉夾娜的Podcast呢

Sorry, today’s podcast about catching up online is unavailable.

亦都是最後一集啦

This is also the last episode.

今集會和大家講講一個Webpage的Editor

In this episode, we will talk about a webpage editor.

即是你可以編輯一個網頁啦

That means you can edit a webpage.

當然是一個不用錢的軟件

Of course, it's software that doesn't cost anything.

其實這個軟件的前身呢,我們都在這裡介紹過的

Actually, we have already introduced the predecessor of this software here.

它就是NVU

It is NVU.

NVU怎麼讀呢?

How do you pronounce NVU?

不懂!

I don't understand!

這個軟件其實是一個好像我們一向用的Dreamweaver

This software is actually similar to the Dreamweaver we usually use.

或者是FundPage

Or it could be FundPage.

但由於這個NVU已經不再繼續發展下去

But since this NVU is no longer being developed.

其實NVU一直都沒有出過正式的版本

In fact, NVU has never released an official version.

通常都是零點幾的版本

It's usually a version of around zero point something.

其實很多軟件你用了很多年之後,它都是零點幾的

In fact, after using many software programs for many years, they are all just point something.

譬如說BT,BT Comet,它都是近來才出一點幾的

For example, BT and BT Comet, they have only come out recently.

就算是一些很大的軟件都是這樣

Even some very large software works this way.

所以你可以看到軟件發展的艱難程度

So you can see the difficulty level of software development.

而NVU就沒有再繼續下去

However, NVU did not continue.

但是有一批有心人就用這個Composer,即是今天介紹的這隻

But there is a group of dedicated individuals who use this Composer, which is the one being introduced today.

M-P-O-Z-E-R

M-P-O-Z-E-R

來作為一個它的後繼者

Come to be its successor.

其實它是定出了一些自己的目標

In fact, it has set some of its own goals.

希望做到一些東西

I hope to accomplish something.

亦都在網頁上很清楚講出

It is also clearly stated on the website.

希望做到什麼

What do you hope to achieve?

譬如包括接下來,因為它是0.7的版本

For example, including the next one, because it is version 0.7.

希望0.7可以處理到一些關於CSS Editor的Bugs

I hope version 0.7 can address some bugs related to the CSS Editor.

希望在0.8的時候

I hope at 0.8.

就可以做到一個更加漂亮的

Then it can become even more beautiful.

然後到0.9的時候

Then at 0.9

就可以希望將所有HTML Editor的Bugs都剷走

Then you can hope to eliminate all the bugs in the HTML Editor.

但是需要等到2018年嗎?

But do we have to wait until 2018?

這個真的很漫長,其實可以很漫長

This is really very long; it can actually be very long.

由於它自己本身是不用錢的

Because it itself does not cost money.

也有一個團隊以一個不是全職不斷在製作

There is also a team that is continuously producing something part-time.

是靠有心人去處理的

It is handled by those who are sincere.

所以這個過程都相信會相對久一點

So this process is expected to take relatively longer.

其實看它的網頁,它們都fixed好

Actually, if you look at their webpage, they have fixed it.

即是一直是這樣做加東西

It's always been about adding things like this.

我相信這個過程,即使它們肯投入這個時間

I believe in this process, even if they are willing to invest this time.

因為它們不是一隊坐在一起的團隊

Because they are not a team sitting together.

然後去這樣做的時候,其實都挺艱辛的

Then when you go to do it this way, it's actually quite difficult.

先說說它的介面,如果大家用NVU的話

Let's talk about its interface first. If everyone is using NVU...

其實它的介面就非常之相似

In fact, its interface is very similar.

根本就接近一樣

It's basically the same.

說得比較保守,非常之相似

To put it conservatively, it's extremely similar.

而且就算沒有用過,你都會覺得呢

And even if you haven't used it, you would still feel that way.

這個軟件的介面都非常之無私拿的風格

The interface of this software has a very unselfish style.

實質上它的那個

In essence, its that.

譬如File Manager,Site Manager那些

For example, File Manager, Site Manager, and those.

又不是真的很差,只不過如果它想在介面改好一點

It's not really that bad, it's just that if it wants to improve the interface a bit.

還有很多的進步空間,都挺容易用的

There is still a lot of room for improvement, and it's quite easy to use.

我見它的介面,NVU我是用過,這一隻我就沒有用過

I have seen its interface. I have used NVU, but I haven't used this one.

其實NVU自己本身,你說它是一隻發展中的軟件,是的

Actually, NVU itself, you could say it is a developing software, yes.

但是你說它是不是可以做到網頁的編輯呢?

But do you think it can achieve web page editing?

它也是實際上已經做到的

It is actually already done.

就是不見得是差過一些比錢的軟件很多

It's not necessarily worse than many software options that cost more.

當然它有很多地方是需要改進,這個也是事實

Of course, there are many areas that need improvement, and this is also a fact.

而這個Composer理論上

And this Composer, in theory,

是會比這個NVU更加進一步

It will be further advanced than this NVU.

不過其實我覺得最大問題,這些軟件面對最大的挑戰就是

However, I actually think the biggest problem is that these software face the greatest challenge, which is...

網頁的變化實在是太快

The changes on the web are really too fast.

而它基本上主要做到HTML

And it basically mainly does HTML.

或者是一些CSS

Or some CSS.

但是這些就可能在不久將來很快會有很大的改變

However, these may undergo significant changes in the near future.

一旦改變,你的軟件就相應一定要作出一些改變

Once there is a change, your software must make corresponding adjustments.

才能夠符合它的需要

Only then can it meet its needs.

但是這個就可能牽涉到很大的人力物力

However, this may involve a significant amount of manpower and resources.

而且它的即時性是很重要的

Moreover, its immediacy is very important.

因為當你的軟件不能夠追上時代的即時性

Because when your software cannot keep up with the immediacy of the times.

相對地情況差,那你自然會少人用一些

Conversely, if the situation is poor, then naturally fewer people will use it.

其實另一件事就是,因為現在很多時候用這類軟件的人

Actually, another thing is that many people use this kind of software these days.

就不是一些家庭用戶

It's just not some household users.

例如我們自己在家裡不會用這些軟件的人細望

For example, we don't use these software at home, and the people who do look closely.

以前可能會

It used to be possible.

用Dreamweaver

Using Dreamweaver

對,用Dreamweaver,或者是一些更加要付錢的,或者是更加重型的軟件

Yes, use Dreamweaver, or some other paid options, or more heavy-duty software.

這一類的軟件現在我們不會用

We won't use this type of software now.

一些公司更加就會付錢去買Dreamweaver,或者用OnePage之類的軟件

Some companies will pay to buy Dreamweaver or use software like OnePage.

因為我們現在比如說

Because we are now, for example,

我們要做網頁,不用做,寫一個Blog很方便

We want to create a webpage, but it's more convenient to write a blog.

打完編文已經publish得到了

The edited article has already been published.

這一類的軟件的市場空間真的越來越小

The market space for this type of software is really getting smaller and smaller.

就算沒有

Even if there isn't any.

譬如說Dreamweaver這類的挑戰

For example, challenges like Dreamweaver.

其實本來已經夠壓迫得很嚴重

In fact, it was already quite oppressive.

還有就算其實你要用一個Word才算

And even if you really need to use a word to count.

其實都可以做到一些HTML出來的

Actually, it's possible to create some HTML.

不過當然有一大堆垃圾曲在前面

However, of course, there is a lot of garbage music in front of us.

你不要想著edit

Don't think about editing.

有一大堆東西在前面很麻煩的

There is a big pile of things in front that are very troublesome.

但是其實依然是做到

But in fact, it is still accomplished.

不過這個軟件我覺得好處就是

However, I think the benefit of this software is that

始終它是比較純做HTML的

After all, it is mainly focused on pure HTML.

尤其是如果譬如你是一個新手上路

Especially if, for example, you are a beginner on the road.

剛剛開始學做HTML

Just started learning HTML.

而你是不打算用這個

And you don't plan to use this.

就這樣一個Blog

Just like this blog.

你或者是想做一些自己屬於自己的東西

You might want to create something that belongs to you.

其實這個就會是一個不錯的選擇

Actually, this would be a good choice.

因為它是可以做到比較純淨的HTML

Because it can achieve a relatively pure HTML.

而它也是不用錢

And it is also free of charge.

還有它又不像Dreamweaver

And it's not like Dreamweaver.

或者front page那些

Or the front page ones.

其實那些開始的門檻都相對地提高了一些

Actually, the initial thresholds have relatively increased a bit.

無論價錢或者技術

Regardless of price or technology.

沒錯,所以大家可以考慮一下

That's right, so everyone can think about it.

上網捉夾啦

Go online to catch some discounts!

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