【贪官藏钱有多少方法】

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【贪官藏钱有多少方法】

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他们有一种考虑就是如果在受贿方面

They have a consideration that if it involves bribery...

在一些证据上可能定不了的

It may not be determinable based on some evidence.

或者说证据不足的情况之下

Or in situations where the evidence is insufficient.

可能向司法机关仅仅只能够他认为一个巨额财产

It may only be possible for the judicial authorities to regard it as a huge fortune.

来历不明的情况

Circumstances of unknown origin.

那么相应的可能在相应的刑期就会低很多

Then the corresponding sentence may be much lower.

我有个事情请教你

I have something to ask you.

比如说我是个贪官

For example, I am a corrupt official.

我刚刚收了五百万

I just received five million.

但是这个五百万并不得我都卡上来

But this five million doesn't all come to my card.

你老师假如是我亲戚

If your teacher is my relative.

是我这个堂兄

It's my cousin.

或者是我很远很远的亲戚

Or perhaps I am a very, very distant relative.

根本查不到的

Completely unable to find.

但我把这个钱放在这个卡里面

But I put this money in this card.

如果有相应的这个证据可以辅助的

If there is corresponding evidence that can assist.

比如说真正能查到这个

For example, being able to really find this.

这个等于这个白手套之类的

This is equivalent to something like this white glove.

那么相应的可能这个证据也会形成

Then correspondingly, this evidence may also be formed.

所以现在贪官为什么自己藏钱

So why do corrupt officials hide money for themselves now?

自己租房的藏钱

Hiding money while renting a house by oneself.

甚至还只相信自己

Even only believing in oneself.

还藏在粪坑里面

Still hidden in the cesspool.

对

Correct.

他只相信他自己

He only believes in himself.

我觉得你刚才这个办法还是比较笨

I think your method just now is quite foolish.

因为涉及到别人的总会出点什么东西

Because it involves others, there will always be some kind of consequences.

意想不到的

Unexpected.

对

Yes.

藏在自己家里面租房子都不对

It's not right to rent a house hidden in your own home.

唯一的好的办法是偷偷的藏到一个公共的

The only good way is to secretly hide in a public place.

荒郊野外

desolate wilderness

什么废弃的建筑物

What abandoned buildings?

我有时候在想

I sometimes think.

因为前段时间某个领导出事了

Because a certain leader had an incident a while ago.

对

Yes.

然后各种传言说

Then various rumors say

某些人一进会场

Some people enter the venue.

那些人就很害怕

Those people are very scared.

对

Correct.

我也在想其实贪官的这个心理

I am also thinking about the psychology of corrupt officials.

可能是有点疾病的

It may be a bit of an illness.

对

Yes.

而且我在想他到底什么时候会感觉最安全

And I am wondering when he will feel the safest.

什么时候感觉最不安全

When do you feel the most unsafe?

你老师

Your teacher.

我觉得这个

I think this

我真的有一种感觉

I really have a feeling.

我想他们也会同意的

I think they will agree too.

第一

First

世界上只有一个地方是最安全的

There is only one place in the world that is the safest.

就是进了监狱

That's just going to prison.

啥事都没有

Nothing is going on.

在这个之前他总会担心出事

Before this, he always worried about something going wrong.

总会觉得这个地方肯定都有问题

There always seems to be problems in this place.

所以我觉得

So I think

你看那些采访监狱里面的那些贪官

Look at those interviews with the corrupt officials inside the prison.

他们都觉得现在很好

They all feel that things are great now.

现在再也没有精神负担

Now there is no longer any mental burden.

再也没有高血压了

No more high blood pressure.

什么都没有

Nothing at all.

心脏病也好了

The heart disease is also cured.

然后起居很正常

Then the daily life was very normal.

然后感觉最不安全就是穿着蓝色衣服的陌生人

Then it feels the most unsafe when encountering a stranger wearing blue clothes.

突然走进办公室

Suddenly walked into the office.

出现在会场

Appear at the venue.

因为他大喇轰的一声

Because he made a loud noise.

他马上就会想到

He will think of it soon.

会知道过啥事情

Will know what has happened.

会把什么东西讲出来

What will be said?

等等

Wait a minute.

然后那个男一人就大叫一声

Then that man shouted loudly.

李公民

Li Gongmin

现在跟我们走一趟

Now, follow us for a trip.

然后旁边的张洋已经像瑟瑟发抖了

Then Zhang Yang beside him was already trembling with fear.

不不不

No no no

他不会这么大声喊

He wouldn't shout that loudly.

他就悄悄的说

He quietly said.

请你出来接个电话

Please come out to answer a phone call.

然后你就出去了

Then you went out.

但是这样子

But like this

如果大声喊

If you shout loudly

其他的人就觉得

Other people feel that

这什么人

Who is this person?

是不是

Is it?

实际上他们这个贪官

In fact, they are this corrupt official.

因为我原来办过一些相应的这种官员

Because I have previously dealt with some relevant officials.

或者说是一些未发的案件的时候

Or when it comes to some unresolved cases.

会见的时候

During the meeting

往往会有问过他们一些相关的情况

Often asked them about some related situations.

那么像他们也确实是说

Then, like they said, it is true.

实际上在收了钱之后

In fact, after receiving the money.

他们心里

In their hearts.

也是很紧张的

It's also very nerve-wracking.

你应该想

You should think.

起码他偿钱都这么苦恼

At least he is so troubled by paying the money.

我没有体验过

I have not experienced it.

我还是很想紧张一次

I still really want to feel nervous once.

你想一大麻袋的钱

You want a big bag of money.

你搬去哪里

Where are you moving to?

你都不知道往哪里放

You don't even know where to put it.

加上总会担心东窗事发

Moreover, there is always concern about the exposure of the incident.

因为往往很多时候

Because often many times

贪污案件之所以爆发

The reason for the outbreak of corruption cases.

很多时候还不是自己败露了

Many times it's not that you were exposed yourself.

是因为可能在不知道什么案件

It is because there may be some case that is unknown.

因为像我们最近

Because like us recently

我们这边的某位领导

A certain leader on our side.

出事是因为当年

The incident happened because of that year.

曾经在某个地方做领导的时候

Once, when I was a leader in a certain place.

一些据传是这样一件事情

There are some things that are said to be like this.

那么像在澳门

So it's like in Macau.

也有一个很大的一个贪污案件

There is also a very large corruption case.

原来的运输公务是司长欧文龙

The original transportation official is Director Owen Long.

那么他相应的

Then correspondingly, he...

他为什么会败露

Why did he get exposed?

也是因为香港在查一个洗钱的事情

It is also because Hong Kong is investigating a money laundering case.

查着查着

Checking and checking.

发现他有一个线索

He has a clue.

就报到澳门去了

I just reported to Macau.

就调查他

Just investigate him.

最后把那个事情

Finally, that matter.

我讲的对吧

What I said is correct, right?

他讲的最安全的肯定是进去了

What he said is certainly the safest option to go in.

一个一了百了

A complete resolution to all matters.

这些可能涉及到官员

These may involve officials.

或者说是政府部门人这种独职

Or it can be said that this is a unique position occupied by government department personnel.

或者说是贪污腐败案件

Or it could be referred to as a case of corruption and embezzlement.

他们往往比较容易招供

They are often more likely to confess.

就是一旦进去之后

Once you go in.

很快就把事情说出来

Quickly speak out the matter.

因为经不起那个轮番的

Because I can't withstand that repeated cycle.

很多一些暴力型的犯罪等等

Many violent crimes and so on.

他还要问好多次

He still needs to ask many times.

终于搞清楚了

Finally figured it out.

你看我们像这种贪官

Do we look like this kind of corrupt officials?

一进去基本上就交代了

As soon as you go in, you basically confess.

人的身体素质不行

The physical fitness of the person is not good.

可能说完

Perhaps it's finished speaking.

经不住这个人民政府的这个

Can't withstand this people's government.

不不不心理素质不不行

No, no, no, the mental quality is not good.

就是说总的来讲

In general terms,

就是没有锻炼过

It's just that I haven't exercised before.

就是没有经过这种风浪的锻炼的人

It is those who have not experienced such trials and challenges.

就一问

Just one question.

我不会问

I won't ask.

一直可能对这个事情有紧张

There has always been a tension regarding this matter.

那么真正遇到这一天

So when that day really comes.

他其实也释怀了

He has actually let it go.

也就把事情都交代了

Then everything has been explained.

你看

You see.

李老师说的是对的

Teacher Li is right.

就是说

That is to say.

一大一大

One big one big

一定的级别

A certain level.

就是进了秦城监狱

It's just that I entered Qin Cheng Prison.

他就安心了

He felt at ease.

然后很多人就是进了开车所

Then many people went to the driving school.

他也就安心了

He felt reassured.

知道这是没办法了

I know there's no way out of this.

就是对

That's right.

最不安全的时候

The time when it is least safe.

我我同意你的观点

I agree with your viewpoint.

你说那个男一人出现的那一瞬间

The moment that male lead appeared.

但我觉得可能最不安全的时候

But I think it might be the most unsafe time.

是收了钱之后就一直不安全

It hasn't been safe since the money was received.

就有这种感觉

It feels like this.

收了钱之后

After receiving the money

特别是收了比较大数目的钱

Especially when a large amount of money has been received.

有一些人他收完钱

Some people, after receiving the money,

因为人家给你钱的目的

Because the purpose of giving you money is...

都是想你办事的

Everyone wants you to do things.

对吧

Right?

那你我拿了钱

Then you and I took the money.

总要办事情

Always need to get things done.

除非你这个人真的耍我

Unless you really are playing me.

找不来

Can't find it.

不办事

Not doing anything.

那种

That kind.

找不到人家会会跳起来找你的

If you can't find someone, they will jump up to look for you.

对

Yes.

这会咬你

This will bite you.

总会很担心这些

Always very worried about these.

回到我们就是这个节目的一个原点

Returning to this is the origin point of our program.

我们以前一直其实讨论过

We have actually discussed this before.

就是各个地方都打老虎

It's just that everywhere is cracking down on corruption.

其实也确实打了一些老虎出来

In fact, some tigers were indeed brought out.

包括大老虎也打了

Including the big tiger was also hit.

那么打老虎

Then hit the tiger.

大领导就说

The top leader said.

我们是治标是为了治本

We treat the symptoms in order to address the root cause.

争取时间

Buy time.

我们现在缺乏一个真正的图样

We currently lack a true pattern.

是能够真正依法的

It is truly able to be governed by law.

不需要经过各种各样的系统的

No need to go through various systems.

是吧

Is that so?

然后最关键的是

Then the most crucial thing is

这个腐败怎么能够产生

How can this corruption arise?

这是这个土壤问题

This is the problem with the soil.

您这个层次比较高

You are at a higher level.

但是我相信很多网民

But I believe many internet users

包括很多很多朋友

Including many many friends.

他说我不管他采用什么办法

He said that I don't care what method he uses.

只要他能把贪官

As long as he can deal with corrupt officials.

对这个我也同意

I also agree with this.

这个我也同意

I agree with this as well.

目前的办法不是比较高

The current method is not very effective.

但是我们是希望必须要有这么一个过程

But we hope that there must be such a process.

否则的话

Otherwise.

这个比较方便的把贪官搞下去的

This is a relatively convenient way to bring down corrupt officials.

他也会比较方便的产生更多的贪官

He will also be able to conveniently produce more corrupt officials.

你明白了吧

Do you understand now?

就是说一个贪官倒下去

This means that a corrupt official has fallen.

虽然没有千万个

Although there aren't millions of them.

起码也有千百个

At least there are thousands.

重新站起来

Stand up again

其实我一直有一个梦想

Actually, I have always had a dream.

不是公共吗

Isn't it public?

是我自己的一个梦想

It is a dream of my own.

我是觉得比如说像深圳

I think, for example, Shenzhen.

广州这种地方

A place like Guangzhou.

可不可以参考一下香港的研究公署

Can we refer to the Research Office in Hong Kong?

做一个实验区

Create an experimental area.

是吧

Is that so?

做的不好

Not done well.

我们就把它撤掉

Let's just remove it.

就像当年的蛇口一样

Just like the Shekou of those years.

一个蛇口是一个实验的试管

A snake mouth is a test tube for an experiment.

对

Yes.

做的好的话就可以扩展一下

If it's done well, it can be expanded a bit.

为什么一直不做

Why haven't you been doing it all this time?

我就觉得很奇怪

I just find it very strange.

实际上廉政公署现在也沦陷了

In fact, the Independent Commission Against Corruption has now also fallen.

对吧

Is that right?

但实际上我的个人看法是这样

But in fact, my personal opinion is this.

现在的司法体制里面

In the current judicial system

首先检察院有反贪污贿赂局

First of all, the procuratorate has an anti-corruption and bribery bureau.

这个是一个最主要的一个侦查

This is the main investigation.

一个贪污腐败的一个侦查机关

A corrupt investigation agency.

那么像这些案件平时在办理起来

Then, how are these cases usually handled?

我作为律师在广东地区

I work as a lawyer in the Guangdong region.

检察院查贪腐也是从不手软的

The prosecutor's office is also uncompromising in investigating corruption.

那么这是在检察院层面处理一般的贪污腐败案件

So this is about handling general corruption and bribery cases at the level of the procuratorate.

然后除此之外

Then besides that.

我们还有党内的一些处罚

We also have some penalties within the party.

一些机制比如说一些中纪委等等

Some mechanisms, such as the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection, etc.

那么我就觉得像中纪委最近真的扬眉吐气了一把

Then I feel that the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection has really gained some ground recently.

而且中纪委的网站的点击力很高

Moreover, the website of the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection has a high number of clicks.

窝囊这么多年

Trapped like this for so many years.

憋了这么多年

Suffered in silence for so many years.

终于可以认真做点事情了

Finally, I can seriously get some work done.

大家也对中纪委有一个好的一个正面的看法

Everyone also has a positive view of the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection.

那么实际上这个机制是不缺的

So in reality, this mechanism is not lacking.

你再加个廉政公署来

You should add an independent anti-corruption agency.

无非还是这样多那么多个头来打

It's just that there are so many more heads to hit.

实际上还不如真正的去

In fact, it would be better to go for real.

这还是蛮有道理的

This makes quite a bit of sense.

他这个有一个问题就是说

He has a problem that is saying.

你刚才说的是把腐败的贪官揪出来的这套机制

What you just mentioned is the mechanism for exposing corrupt officials.

我设想应该更重要的是

I envision that what should be more important is

不能够产生贪官的机制

The mechanism that cannot produce corrupt officials.

你比方说官员的财产公布应不应该

Should the assets of officials be made public, for example?

显然是必须的是不是

It is obviously a necessity, isn't it?

那么这个怎么做

So how do we do this?

你总得要做

You have to do it.

你这一套不做的话

If you don't do this set.

那么民众对官员的建立

So the public's establishment of officials.

澳门最近刚刚实行官员的公布

Macau has recently implemented the disclosure of officials.

澳门最近在刚刚做

Macau has recently just done...

没错没错

That's right, that's right.

我想起刚刚在录节目之前

I just remembered before recording the show.

我跟李老师有商量过一些

I have discussed some things with Teacher Li.

其实在受贿案件里面

In fact, in bribery cases

很多人不知道的就是要定受贿

What many people don't know is that accepting bribes is a crime.

基本上还要抓行贿的

Basically, it still involves catching bribery.

所以你抓不到行贿的

So you can't catch the bribers.

实际上钱怎么来的

In fact, where does money come from?

谁给你

Who gave you?

你是查不清楚

You can't find out clearly.

受贿案件一样定不了

Bribery cases cannot be settled the same way.

所以等于变成了

So it has become.

实际上为什么有贪还有人送

In fact, why are there greed and people who give?

但是我们现在社会媒体往往会更多的去关注

However, our social media tends to focus更多的关注.

贪官

Corrupt official

谁贪了

Who is greedy?

哪个贪官倒台了

Which corrupt official has fallen?

但是我们应该考虑

But we should consider.

像最近这些

Like these recent ones.

广州出现了这几个贪污腐败的一个案例

A case of corruption and embezzlement has arisen in Guangzhou.

也更应该要追查

It should also be investigated further.

到底涉及到哪一些利益

What interests are involved?

谁给的贿款

Who gave the bribe?

包括行贿案件

Including bribery cases.

媒体也应该更多的去根据

The media should do more to base on

包括行的贿之后

Including the bribery after the trip.

哪些人得到了哪些好处

Which people received what benefits?

其实也告诉我们

In fact, it also tells us

其实他说的

Actually, what he said is...

我觉得是对的

I think it's right.

作为媒体来讲

As a media outlet

应该更多的把目标的

We should focus more on the objectives.

同时对准那些行贿的人

At the same time, target those who are bribing.

实际上往往一个贪污腐败案件

In fact, a corruption case often...

是有受贿案行贿案

There are bribery and graft cases.

两岸同时开庭的

Simultaneously held hearings on both sides of the strait.

但是相关部门不披露

However, the relevant departments do not disclose this.

我们是很难知道的

We find it hard to know.