#63 Cheng Beng & After Death 清明與死后

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寂寞原来是不过于此

Loneliness turns out to be nothing more than this.

欢迎大家进入寂寞教室

Welcome everyone to the Lonely Classroom.

各位朋友大家好

Hello everyone.

欢迎大家收听寂寞教室

Welcome everyone to the Lonely Classroom.

一个星期很快就过了

A week passed quickly.

不知道大家在上一个星期又过成怎样呢

I wonder how everyone has been doing in the past week.

在星期六的时候

On Saturday

我在pinnaclekian.com

I am at pinnaclekian.com.

就和John Ong

Just like John Ong.

作为一班听众

As an audience.

一起录音

Let's record together.

很开心地遇到几位听众

I am very happy to meet a few listeners.

都是我的听众

They are all my audience.

在这里要很感谢你们的支持

I want to thank you for your support here.

希望你们继续支持

Hope you continue to support.

和介绍多些朋友来听

And introduce more friends to come and listen.

另外一件开心的事

Another happy thing.

就是其中一位听众

It's one of the listeners.

他是在朋友的口中得知这个节目

He learned about this program through a friend's sharing.

而这位朋友

And this friend

是来自香港大学的一位朋友

A friend from the University of Hong Kong.

原来香港人都有收听我这个节目

It turns out that people in Hong Kong also listen to my show.

在这里要这位朋友多多支持

Here, I would like to ask this friend for more support.

和给一些意见

And provide some suggestions.

还有就是介绍多些朋友来听我的节目

Also, introduce more friends to listen to my program.

在上个星期六就是清明节

Last Saturday was the Qingming Festival.

很多人其实是否真正了解清明节呢?

Do many people really understand the Qingming Festival?

对于香港人来说

For Hong Kong people

通常因为近内地

Usually because it is close to the mainland.

我想大家都应该知道

I think everyone should know.

这个传统其实是进行什么的活动

What activities does this tradition actually involve?

除了是掃缝之外

Besides being a seam,

清明节其实有其他的活动可以进行

The Qingming Festival actually has other activities that can be carried out.

对于马来西亚人来说

For Malaysians

我想我们都是以掃缝为主

I think we are all mainly focused on stitching.

就是每一个人一到清明

Every person, when it comes to Qingming (Tomb-Sweeping Day),

那些有拜神的人

Those who worship gods.

就会在这一天去拜祭他们的祖先

They will worship their ancestors on this day.

包括我在内

Including me.

通常我们都会带一些食物去拜祭

We usually bring some food for the worship ceremony.

上山坟去拜祭

Go to the mountain to pay respects at the grave.

还有拿一些包袱

Still carrying some burdens.

包袱

package, burden, or shroud (depending on context)

是的

Yes.

那些

Those.

一些钢丝纸等等

Some wire paper, etc.

拿去烧的

Take it to burn.

是的

Yes.

这些就是我们马来西亚的习俗

These are the customs of Malaysia.

其实在中国或者是在内地

Actually, in China or in the mainland.

同样的都有数份的这一回事

The same thing has multiple copies.

只不过有很多的活动

There are just a lot of activities.

也是在这个清明节去进行的

It was also held during this Qingming Festival.

首先就讲清明节的前一天

First, let's talk about the day before the Qingming Festival.

清明节的前一天就是叫做汉食节

The day before Qingming Festival is called Hanshi Festival.

所谓的汉食节就是意思

The so-called Han Food Festival means this.

说要禁火

It is said that a fire ban will be enforced.

不可以吃热的东西

Do not eat hot food.

就要吃冷的东西

I want to eat something cold.

在古时代的时候

In ancient times.

人们就将清明节和汉食节

People will connect the Qingming Festival with the Han Food Festival.

因为是隔一天

Because it's the next day.

就二合为一

Just two combine into one.

那

That

清明节可以进行一些什么活动呢

What activities can be done during the Qingming Festival?

其实

Actually

这个也是我不知道的

This is something I also don't know.

直到我读到一本书

Until I read a book.

要教一些学生

To teach some students.

一些关于我们中国的传统习俗

Some of our traditional customs in China.

那时候才知道的

That's when I found out.

其实清明节除了是数份之外

In fact, the Qingming Festival is more than just a time for tomb sweeping.

就讲究要禁火

It is important to prohibit fire.

还有可以进行什么的活动呢

What other activities can be carried out?

就是要踏青

Just go out for a spring outing.

荡秋千

Swinging on a swing.

捉谷

Catching grains

打马球

Play polo.

拆楼

Demolish building

等等一系列的体育活动

A series of sports activities, etc.

相传这些是因为清明节要汉食禁火

It is said that this is because during the Qingming Festival, the Han people observe a fire ban for food.

为了要防止汉冷的天气

In order to prevent the cold weather in Han.

伤身

Harmful to the body.

所以大家就一起进行一些体育活动

So everyone participates in some sports activities together.

以锻炼身体

To exercise the body.

因此这个节日

Therefore, this festival

都有既有祭祖

Both have ancestor worship.

去扫墳

Go to sweep the grave.

那种生离死别的悲伤等等

The sorrow of parting and the anguish of death, etc.

也有一群人是踏青柔环

There is also a group of people who enjoy spring outings.

和去进行一些体育的活动等等

And engage in some sports activities, etc.

的那些开心的

Those happy ones.

所以这个算是两个很极端的一个交替

So this is considered an exchange between two very extreme extremes.

就是开心和悲哀的

It's just happiness and sadness.

那扫墳我想大家都知道

I think everyone knows about the tomb-sweeping.

是怎样去扫的

How do you sweep?

不用说了

No need to say it.

对于马来西亚人更加明白

For Malaysians to understand better.

这些是什么东西

What are these things?

对于说真真正正要进行的这些活动

Regarding these activities that are truly going to be carried out.

对于中国人来说

For Chinese people

其实就是荡秋千

It's actually just swinging on a swing.

这个荡秋千是清朝的

This swing is from the Qing Dynasty.

对不起

I'm sorry.

是中国古代的清明节的习俗

It is a custom of the Qingming Festival in ancient China.

原本应该是叫做秋千的

It was originally supposed to be called a swing.

为了要避忌

To avoid taboos.

才叫做这个秋

This is what autumn is called.

原本是叫做千秋

Originally called Qianqiu.

为了要避忌

In order to avoid taboo.

就叫做秋千

It's called a swing.

通常这个是

Usually this is

当这个秋千

When this swing

可以出尽你的健康

You can fully utilize your health.

也可以培养勇敢的精神

It can also cultivate a brave spirit.

因为你扫一扫

Because you scan it.

你一定要有勇敢去面对那些

You must have the courage to face those.

那些

Those

要荡的

Want to swing.

所以原来有培养勇敢的精神

So there is a cultivation of the spirit of bravery.

至今就是

Until now it is.

特别是那些小孩

Especially those children.

那些儿童最喜爱的了

Those are the children's favorites.

OK

OK

说完这个荡秋千

After saying this, swing on the swing.

接下来就是这个竹谷

Next is this bamboo valley.

谷是一种的

Grains are a type of.

是一个球来的

It is a ball.

这个球是用这个皮来做成的

This ball is made of this leather.

在球里面就塞满了一些毛巾

The ball is stuffed full of some towels.

等等

Wait a moment.

而这个竹谷呢

And this bamboo valley...

就是用这个竹去踢球

It's just using this bamboo to kick the ball.

用我们的脚去踢球

Use our feet to kick the ball.

这个是古代清明节

This is the ancient Qingming Festival.

人家很喜欢的一个游戏

A game that someone really likes.

相传这个是皇帝发明的

It is said that this was invented by the emperor.

最初的目的

The original purpose.

是要用来训练武士

It is meant to train warriors.

塔青呢

Where is the tower green?

又不叫做春柔了

It's no longer called spring softness.

为什么要说春柔呢

Why do we say spring is gentle?

春会大地

Spring will come to the earth.

自然那些植物等等

Naturally, those plants, etc.

到处都生气勃勃

Everywhere is full of vitality.

这个就是郊游的大好时光

This is a great time for a picnic.

在中国民间

In Chinese folklore

长期保持着这种

Long-term maintenance of this.

清明塔青的习惯

The habits of Qingming Tower Qing.

就是去散步

Just going for a walk.

去公园逛逛

Go for a stroll in the park.

另外一个就是植树

The other one is tree planting.

在清明节也叫植树节

Tomb Sweeping Day is also called Arbor Day.

这个植树节是

This Arbor Day is

为什么呢

Why is that?

因为在这个清明的前后

Because around this Qingming festival

雨水充足

Sufficient rainfall

和阳光普照

And the sun shines brightly.

这个时间种植树苗

Planting saplings at this time.

的成活率是很高的

The survival rate is very high.

而且是可以成长得快的

And it can grow quickly.

因此就有植树这一回事了

That is why there is the matter of planting trees.

除了这个之外

Besides this,

清明节呢

Tomb Sweeping Day, right?

很多人都很喜欢的

Many people really like it.

就是放风筝

It's just flying a kite.

每逢清明时节

Every time during the Qingming Festival

人们都不管

People don't care.

在日间放

In the daytime.

或者在夜间放

Or set it off at night.

总之每天都在放风筝

In summary, I fly kites every day.

在夜晚的风筝

In the night of the kite

和这些拉线

And these pull lines.

都挂着一串串的彩色小灯笼

They are all decorated with strings of colorful lanterns.

所以远远看

So from a distance.

就好像闪烁的明星一样

Just like a twinkling star.

这个又称为神灯

This is also called a magic lamp.

OK

OK

说完这么多个

After saying so many.

为什么要放风筝

Why fly kites?

其实放风筝是

Actually, flying a kite is...

就是有人将这个风筝

It's just that someone took this kite.

放在天空之后

After placing it in the sky.

就剪断那个线

Just cut that wire.

就是希望可以借着这个清风

I just hope to take advantage of this gentle breeze.

将它这个风筝

Let it be this kite.

送到其他的地方

Send to other places.

据说呢

It is said that.

这样就可以除病消灾

This way, one can eliminate diseases and dispel disasters.

带给自己好运的

Bringing good luck to oneself.

如果在马来西亚

If in Malaysia

清明节放风筝

Flying kites during the Qingming Festival.

好像没有人这样做

It seems like no one does it this way.

如果真的我们去放的话

If we really let it go.

好像很散筆

It seems very scattered.

散筆就是

Scribbling refers to

怎么说

How to say it?

我都不知道

I don't know at all.

有没有人知道

Does anyone know?

散筆是什么意思

What does "散笔" mean?

好吧

Alright.

好了

Okay.

福建话来的

It comes from Fujian dialect.

OK好

OK, good.

还有就是这个叫做插柳

And this is called inserting willow.

插柳也是一个风筝

Inserting willow is also a kite.

有些地方

Some places

有人就会将这个柳枝

Some people will take this willow branch.

插在这个屋檐下

Stuck under this eaves.

人家说是可以预报天气的

They say it's possible to forecast the weather.

因为他就这样说

Because he said it like that.

古人就有这样的

Ancient people had this.

说法

Statement

柳条青

Willow catkin green

就雨蒙蒙

Just drizzly.

柳条干

Willow twig

就晴了天的说法

It's said that when it's clear, the sky is blue.

所以呢

So, what?

在这个清明节呢

During this Qingming Festival.

就记得要插柳

Just remember to insert the willow.

这样

Like this.

就是这样

That's it.

OK

OK

还有呢

What else?

他就有俗语说

He has a saying.

有心插花

Intentional flower arrangement.

花不化

Flowers do not wither.

无心插柳

Unintentionally creating something beautiful.

柳成阴

The willow provides shade.

柳条插桃呢

Willow branches are inserted into peach trees.

因为在清明节呢

Because it is the Qingming Festival, you know.

天气很好嘛

The weather is really good, isn't it?

气候又非常之好

The climate is also very good.

水分又够

The moisture is sufficient.

所以你柳枝呢

So where are your willow branches?

你插在哪里呢

Where do you plug it in?

就会活在哪里

Where will you live?

这样的

Like this.

每一年插柳呢

Every year, willow is planted.

就处处成阴

Everywhere becomes shaded.

OK

OK

那记住了

Then remember that.

那些马来西亚的朋友

Those friends from Malaysia.

如果你是有空的话

If you are free.

就记住

Just remember.

在清明节呢

During the Qingming Festival.

除了是

Besides being

数份之外

Beyond several copies

数目之外呢

What about beyond the numbers?

记得

Remember

如果你有数目之外呢

What if you have more than the amount?

都可以进行这些

All of these can be done.

所谓就是

So-called is

这些活动啦

These activities.

因为呢

Because.

我觉得

I think.

这些就是

These are.

我们不知道的地方

Places we do not know.

因为我们身处在马来西亚

Because we are in Malaysia.

实在是太久了

It's been a really long time.

很多东西呢

A lot of things.

其实就是

Actually, it's just that.

可能是中间

It might be in the middle.

那个

That one.

呃

Uh

其中一些

Some of them

比较

Comparison

几乎少一位人所知的

Hardly known by anyone.

或者是

Or it is.

是香港人带入来马来西亚

It was brought into Malaysia by Hong Kong people.

可以受到马来西亚的天气

It can be affected by the weather in Malaysia.

而影响的

And the impact.

因为呢

Because.

马来西亚呢

What about Malaysia?

每一天都是熱的

Every day is hot.

沒理由叫人去踏車或放風箏

There's no reason to ask people to ride bikes or fly kites.

雖然說我們這裡都是下水

Although it is said that we all go down here.

不過其他的時間都是屬於熱的

However, the rest of the time belongs to heat.

沒有春天的

There is no spring.

可能就是這些中國人

It might just be these Chinese people.

南下來到馬來西亞之後

After coming down to Malaysia

生活習慣都改變了

Life habits have changed.

唯一可以做的事就是掃墳

The only thing we can do is to sweep the grave.

所以漸漸地

So gradually

很多人會認為清明節只是掃墳

Many people believe that the Qingming Festival is just about cleaning graves.

這是錯誤的觀念

This is a misconception.

因為我教書的學生都是這樣說的

Because that's what my students who I teach say.

清明節掃墳

Tomb-sweeping during the Qingming Festival.

我們的家人都有去

Our family has all gone.

每適逢清明節都要去山墳拜祭

During the Qingming Festival, we must go to the graves to pay our respects.

原來很多人都不知道

It turns out that many people do not know.

中國的習俗其實是有這樣的習俗

China actually has such customs.

踏青、踏樓

Spring outing, climbing buildings.

這些

These

千秋、抽籤等等

Millennia, drawing lots, etc.

這些東西原來是有的

These things actually exist.

只不過我們是失傳了

It's just that we have lost it.

馬來西亞人通常都不知道

Malaysians usually do not know.

要等那些老一輩的人

We have to wait for those from the older generation.

或者對中國的習慣有習俗

Or habits and customs related to China.

有研究的人才知道

Only those who have conducted research know.

如果我不是去訓練那些學生

If I am not going to train those students.

去學這些中國的傳統

Go learn about these Chinese traditions.

其實我自己本身也不知道

Actually, I don't know myself.

原來是有這樣的一回事

So this is how it is.

OK

OK

廣告之後我們又有另外一些東西

After the advertisement, we have some more things.

會和大家分享的

Will share with everyone.

同時也要邀請我們的嘉賓John On

We also need to invite our guest John On.

上來我們的節目和大家聊天

Come up to our show and chat with everyone.

在廣告之後我們再見

We'll see you after the advertisement.

爆iPhone

Explode iPhone

想知道是什麼

Want to know what it is.

和了解多一點

And understand a little more.

來到mobileradio.hk

Come to mobileradio.hk

iPhone熱啦

The iPhone is hot!

喂

Hello

我想問一下你

I want to ask you something.

你寂寞嗎

Are you lonely?

如果你寂寞的話

If you feel lonely.

你會做些什麼

What will you do?

不妨就聽聽寂寞教室

You might as well listen to the Lonely Classroom.

我將會和你分享一些生活常見

I will share some common aspects of life with you.

各種話題

Various topics

和一些有啟發性的信息

and some inspirational information

記住了

Got it.

每逢星期二十點鐘

Every Tuesday at 10 o'clock.

記住收聽寂寞教室

Remember to listen to the Lonely Classroom.

醫生

Doctor

我見頭暈

I feel dizzy.

沒精神

Lack of energy.

又很淡淡的

And very faint.

不知道什麼事呢

I don't know what the matter is.

你有沒有作悶

Are you feeling bored?

有啊有啊

Yes, yes.

那我什麼事啊

What does that have to do with me?

那我想你應該有了

Then I think you should have it by now.

一陣子都沒去過旅行了

I haven't traveled for a while.

是嗎

Is that so?

那怎麼辦

What should we do then?

那不用怕

Then there's no need to be afraid.

聽國際自由行補回一下

Listen to the international free travel supplement again.

國際自由行

International travel自由行

逢星期四十點至十一點

Every Thursday from 10 to 11 o'clock.

mobileradio

mobile radio

OK

OK

又回來我們的節目了

We are back with our show again.

就說到數份

Just talking about several copies.

那些人就會拿這個包袱

Those people will take this burden.

裏面裝著一些衣服

It contains some clothes inside.

紙衫

Paper shirt

銘錢等等

Inscription on coins, etc.

一大堆東西拿去燒的

A whole pile of things to burn.

那這些東西呢

What about these things?

這些就是要送給那些死後的人

These are meant to be given to those who have passed away.

不知道你對於這樣的做法

I don't know what you think about this approach.

有什麼看法呢

What are your views?

真的死後會有死後的世界

Is there really an afterlife after death?

這些所謂燒了下去的東西

These so-called things that have burned down.

真的可以用得到的

It really can be used.

那你對於你自己呢

What about yourself?

如果真的有一天

If there really comes a day

因為人一定會死的

Because people will definitely die.

如果真的有一天

If there really is a day

你是離開了這個世界

You have left this world.

那不知道

Then I don't know.

我就想知道

I just want to know.

你會想要什麼

What would you like?

就是你在死後的世界裏面

It is you in the afterworld.

你是想要什麼

What do you want?

那我呢

What about me?

就剛剛好那一天

Just the right day.

我就在這個網頁看到這個話題

I saw this topic on this webpage.

就是如果你死後

It's just that if you die后

你想要什麼

What do you want?

或者是你可以選的話

Or you can choose.

你希望你死後

What you hope for after your death.

你是什麼

What are you?

那我就覺得好有趣

Then I feel it's really interesting.

這個話題

This topic

就拿來和這個John on一起去探討的

Just take it and discuss it with this John on.

就說一下這些燒的東西

Just to talk about these burned things.

如果今天燒

If it burns today

就是如果死後

It means "It's just that if after death."

死了之後

After death

再燒這些東西給你

I'll burn these things for you again.

你是可以用得到的

You are useful.

你真的可以用得著的

You can really make good use of it.

那你會要求什麼呢

Then what would you ask for?

那我們在聊天之間

Then we are chatting.

就說到很多東西了

Speaking of many things.

好啦

Alright.

事不宜遲

No time to waste.

現在就請John on上來我們的節目

Now let's invite John to come up on our show.

OK

OK

好

Good.

各位聽眾

Dear audience

今個星期

This week

我們又回來這個節目教室

We are back in this program classroom again.

同樣的這位嘉賓又出現了

The same guest has appeared again.

那他就是John on了

Then he is John on.

John on你好

John, hello!

嗨大家好

Hi everyone!

今天我是通過這個文米婆上來的

Today I came up through this Wenmi Po.

那你自己本身

Then what about yourself?

你信不信有文米婆這個東西的

Do you believe that there is such a thing as a "Wenmi Granny"?

其實信不信

Whether you believe it or not.

有時候都信一下的

Sometimes I do believe it.

有時候說的東西都挺準的

Sometimes what is said is quite accurate.

不過我就

However, I just...

有時候我就

Sometimes I just...

我覺得我是自己對那樣

I think I am like that myself.

那些

Those

那樣

That way.

怎麼說

How to say?

那些鬼魂那些東西

Those ghosts, those things.

就非常之有興趣

I am very interested.

我不知道我自己真的信不信

I don't know if I really believe it.

可能是有少信

It may be a lack of trust.

少少

A little bit.

有時候又要看到

Sometimes I have to see it again.

自己親眼看到才信

Only believe it when I've seen it with my own eyes.

這樣

This way.

不然如果

Otherwise, if

自己親眼看到又怕

Seeing it with my own eyes is frightening.

所以就

So that's why.

叫做搬信搬不信

It is called "moving letters and not believing them."

那你

Then you.

不過你的宗教不讓你信的

However, your religion does not allow you to believe in it.

讓啊

Let it be.

為什麼不給啊

Why not give it?

是嗎

Really?

不給啊

Not giving it.

為什麼

Why?

就好像文米這些東西

It's just like things like rice grains.

哪裡給你信的

Where did you get the letter?

他們是信的

They are trustworthy.

不過他們就是說

However, they just said

不要這樣做

Don't do that.

因為呢

Because

基督

Christ

就是天主教

It is Catholicism.

就叫我們說

Let's just say.

人家死了

Someone has died.

那些靈魂去了

Those souls have left.

就不要

Just don't.

我們在這個世界的人

We are people in this world.

就不要去打

Just don’t go hit.

打騷擾那些去世了的靈魂

Harass those souls that have passed away.

哦

Oh

不是說他們信這樣說

It's not that they believe in saying this.

是說你要尊敬那些靈魂

It means you should respect those souls.

因為

Because

啊

Ah

你如果是

If you are

在我們人間

In our human world

上

up

時時這樣

Always like this.

叫他上來

Tell him to come up.

騷擾死了那些靈魂

Harassment has killed those souls.

就不好這樣解

It shouldn't be explained like this.

哦

Oh

OK

OK

那麼

Then.

我們呢

What about us?

其實今天呢

Actually, today...

就要講一下

I just want to say a little bit.

一些比較

Some comparisons

奇怪一點的話題

A slightly strange topic.

就是呢

That's it.

關於

About

呃

Uh.

不知道是不是

I don't know if it's true.

死

Death

這個不是超宵夜探是不是

This is not a super late-night snack, is it?

這個不是

This is not.

不過是想探討說

Just trying to explore.

譬如說你

For example, you.

呃

Uh

如果有一日

If there is a day

有一日

One day.

真的死了

Really dead.

那你希望你死後的

What do you hope will happen after your death?

是會出現些什麼呢

What kind of things will appear?

你是說

Are you saying?

我自己死了之後

After I die.

我想

I want.

你真的說

You really said.

就是

That's it.

你要想著

You need to think about it.

有

Have.

你死了

You are dead.

還是有

Still有.

別的東西

Other things

即是別的世界這樣

That is how another world is.

是是是是

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

那你

Then you.

你

You

那

That

現在呢

What about now?

通常呢

Usually

你會不會有這樣的問題

Do you have this kind of problem?

就是說

That is to say

呃

Uh

其實人死了之後呢

In fact, after a person dies...

是

Yes

怎樣的

What kind of?

會不會存在

Will it exist?

是啊

Yeah.

會不會存在

Will it exist?

是啊

Yes.

嗯

Hmm.

我

I

又想過了

I thought about it again.

當然是

Of course.

嗯

Hmm.

不過

However

對我來說

For me

本身

itself

我自己覺得不是太重要

I personally think it's not very important.

信不信

Believe it or not.

嗯

Hmm.

我覺得

I think.

如果有就有

If there is, there is.

沒有就沒有

If there isn't, then there isn't.

我們不可以現在

We cannot do it now.

在

In

現在生活

Current life

緊的時候

When it's tight

就要為了死

Just want to die.

之後

afterwards

去打算那麼多

Don't think too much about it.

我覺得我們現在

I think we are now.

這個生命

This life

裡面

inside

都有很多東西要我們

There are many things that require us.

搞好

Do well.

那

That

為什麼要浪費時間

Why waste time?

去想到以後會怎樣呢

Thinking about what will happen in the future.

呃

Uh

有沒有我們都不知道

Whether there is or not, we don't know.

可能會有

There may be.

可能會沒有

It may not exist.

不過

However

我覺得我去到那裡

I think I will go there.

才打算

Just planned.

哦

Oh

OK

OK

是不是很不同啊

Isn't it very different?

是

Yes

不是

No.

我的想法

My thoughts.

很對

Exactly right.

和大家的

and everyone’s

有

Have.

有些差

A bit different.

可能呢

Maybe.

好像我呢

It seems like me.

有時候會突然間

Sometimes it happens suddenly.

突然間呢

Suddenly, what?

就會問

Then they will ask.

其實呢

Actually, you know.

人死了之後呢

What happens after a person dies?

是

Yes

其實真的有

There really is.

還是

still

沒有

None.

那

That

有時候想到

Sometimes I think about it.

有一點點怕的

A little bit scared.

你會不會

Are you able to?

為什麼會怕

Why are you afraid?

我不知道

I don't know.

我好像覺得

I seem to feel that.

死了

Dead.

如果真的死了的話

If you really die.

什麼都沒有了

There is nothing left.

那

That

就是

Exactly.

都

All

都可以這樣說的

It can all be said like this.

你是說

You mean?

你怎樣是怕呢

What are you afraid of?

你是怕

You are afraid.

或

or

你是或者說

You are or say.

死了沒有東西

Nothing is left after dying.

這樣就完全就消失了

This will completely disappear.

而怕

And fear

或者是

or

啊

Ah

怕著

Afraid.

你死了會去哪裡呢

Where will you go after you die?

我是怕

I am afraid.

我死了之後呢

What happens after I die?

就

Just

就完全消失

Then completely disappear.

是啊

Yes.

我不想

I don't want to.

哈哈

Haha

你

You

那你

Then you.

那你是不是想

So are you thinking about it?

你是不是想做

Do you want to do it?

什麼呢

What is it?

啊

Ah

什麼

What?

怎麼說

How to say?

啊

Ah

什麼

What?

哈哈哈

Hahaha

你可以說

You can say

長生不老啊

Eternal life and youth!

你長生不老啊

You shall live forever!

是不是你想

Is it what you want?

那

That

長生不老

Longevity and immortality.

就

Just

當然不會

Of course not.

不會什麼的啦

I won't be able to do anything.

那你怕什麼呢

So what are you afraid of?

我不知道

I don't know.

我就是怕說

I'm just afraid to speak.

如果是消失的話

If it disappears.

我們大家也是消失的

We are all disappearing too.

你怕什麼呢

What are you afraid of?

就是如果

That is if.

如果

If

對我自己來說

For myself

如果我是覺得

If I feel

啊

Ah

我

I

現在生

Now live

生

Life

存

Save

生存

Survival

啊

Ah

生存

Survival

生存著的

Surviving

這個

This

這個生命

This life

是不是

Is it?

嗯

Hmm.

我現在活著的

I am alive now.

這個

This

這個生活

This life.

我就

I just.

要

Want

為

for

現在

Now

去

Go

去做

Go do it.

yeah

对的

我不想浪費那麼多時間去想著

I don't want to waste so much time thinking about it.

如果我死了會怎麼樣

What will happen if I die?

你知道嗎

Did you know?

那這個是你的聽眾來的

Then this is your audience coming.

這個是你的聽眾來的

This is your audience coming.

就是因為我覺得

It's just because I feel that.

咦這個題目呢

Eh, what about this topic?

是

Yes

挺好

Pretty good.

挺有趣的

Quite interesting.

所以我就

So I just

那這個人呢

What about this person?

就說呢

I knew it.

if i can choose how i want to be after die

If I can choose how I want to be after I die.

can i choose if after i die

Can I choose what happens after I die?

i hope that i can be an angel up the sky

I hope that I can be an angel in the sky.

and

and

there is a tv for me to watch the life of myself

There is a TV for me to watch my own life.

from the day i was born until the day i die

From the day I was born until the day I die.

那你自己

Then you yourself.

是啊

Yes.

那

That

,

,

呃

Uh

等一下

Wait a moment.

對

Yes.

那

That

就是說

That is to say.

你有沒有想到

Have you thought about it?

其實

Actually

你死了之後

After you die

就可能

It's possible.

你希望你自己會是一個什麼

What do you hope to be?

就譬如說你的聽眾呢

For example, your audience.

這個片頭學家的

This opening is the scholar's.

就說他

Just say him.

想做這個

I want to do this.

angel

angel

啦

La

是

Yes.

是啊

Yes.

笑天

Laughing Sky

天使

Angel

又有一個光圈啦

There’s another aperture now.

又有一個

Another one.

翼啦

Wing!

一對翼啦

A pair of wings.

對呀

Yes.

飛來飛去

Flying back and forth.

可以飛來飛去

Can fly back and forth.

我不知道

I don't know.

那我又

Then I again

我又覺得呢

I feel that again.

其實這個東西都挺有趣的

Actually, this thing is quite interesting.

那你呢

What about you?

那你自己呢

What about yourself?

你自己如果是

If it is you yourself

如果是被你

If it's you.

即是你死了

Then you are dead.

還沒殺

Not killed yet.

即是

That is

如果你是死了

If you are dead.

還沒完全消失的話

If it hasn't completely disappeared yet.

那你想要你死了

Then do you want you to be dead?

就想死了

Just want to die.

那就是

That is.

那好的

Okay then.

就是

It is.

我的

Mine.

這個

This

我說

I said.

靈魂去到哪裡呢

Where does the soul go?

去到呀

Go there.

要去一個很美麗的地方

I want to go to a very beautiful place.

啊

Ah

OK

OK

哈哈哈哈哈

hahahahaha

去唱K是吧

Are you going to sing karaoke?

哈哈哈

Hahaha

對呀

That's right.

如果有K的話就爽了

It would be great if there was K.

每天可以唱呀

You can sing every day.

不用做工

No need to work.

哈哈哈

Hahaha

對呀

That's right.

唱K

Karaoke

和

and

去拆你那些

Go take apart those things of yours.

你那些

What about those of yours?

G

G

真的啊 你看那些人現在指責的東西

Really? Look at what those people are criticizing now.

不是很先進的啦 你知不知道啊

It's not very advanced, you know?

甚至乎自己的電腦

Even your own computer.

有fluray的DVD

DVD with fluray

對喔

That's right.

哇 那如果真的

Wow, what if it really happens?

還有iphone啊 有沒有iphone啊

Is there an iPhone? Do you have an iPhone?

我不知道啊 ipod也有喔

I don't know, there are also iPods.

我們現在和你的姊妹節目打廣告

We are now advertising with your sister program.

我有聽過那是iphone熱的 你知不知道

I have heard that the iPhone is popular. Do you know?

啊哈

Aha

我有聽過那一節目

I have heard of that program.

我們有聽過那一節目啊

We've heard that program.

你subscribe了啊

You subscribed!

subscribe了啊

I've subscribed!

他們我就和台長

They and I just with the station director.

台長現在和你說

The station chief is now speaking to you.

可不可以說啊

Can I say it?

可以說啊 可以說啊

You can say it, you can say it.

台長有沒有聽你的節目啊

Has the station director listened to your program?

有 有時是啦

Yes, sometimes it is.

你就麻煩你跟他說

Please do me a favor and tell him.

麻煩你聽這個節目啦

Please listen to this program.

那我的特別嘉賓就要求你

Then my special guest would like to ask you.

尤其是我們在美國的聽眾呢

Especially our audience in the United States.

如果真的

If really

我是很

I am very

很喜歡有這個rss的podcast的feed啊

I really like having this RSS podcast feed.

所以我就可以在itunes那裡subscribe他的節目

So I can subscribe to his program on iTunes.

那好像啊

That seems like it.

好像那個iphone熱這樣

It seems that the iPhone is hot like this.

如果是要我去那個網站那裡聽

If I have to go to that website to listen.

我可能不會的

I might not.

因為那些時間啊

Because of those times, ah.

很調轉的嘛

It's quite the opposite, isn't it?

我們在美國

We are in the United States.

是啊是啊是啊

Yes, yes, yes.

即是有時候

Sometimes.

對啦 那個時間是調轉

Yes, that time is reversed.

所以是

So it is.

不過你可以去download

But you can go download it.

download的嘛

Is it for downloading?

不過很麻煩的嘛download

It's quite troublesome to download.

去那個網頁那裡

Go to that webpage.

一直一直這樣download

Keep downloading like this.

很麻煩的

Very troublesome.

如果你是subscribe了

If you are subscribed.

是不是好像podcast那樣

Isn't it similar to a podcast?

你subscribe了一次

You subscribed once.

每次都會自己

Every time I will do it myself.

下載給你

Download for you.

我覺得

I think.

嗯

Um.

那

Then

好啦

Alright.

那剛才就說了

Then it was just mentioned.

那

That

如果呢

What if?

真的這樣的話呢

If that's really the case.

有一天呢

One day, you know.

即是你去的話呢

If you go, then...

當然有一個

Of course there is one.

我想要一個錄音室

I want a recording studio.

哈哈哈

Hahaha

錄音室給我錄歌

The recording studio lets me record songs.

然後

Then

我想在現在呢

I want to do it now.

很難的啦

It's very difficult!

都老了啦

We're all old now.

不可能發唱片的啦

It's impossible to release a record.

哈哈哈

Hahaha

你是想唱歌那種

Are you the kind that wants to sing?

你不是只是想錄這個節目的

You don't just want to record this program.

你是想唱歌那種

Are you the type that wants to sing?

唱歌錄節目啊

Singing and recording a show.

都可以

Anything is fine.

如果有自己的電台更好

It would be better to have your own radio station.

不用做電台的嘛

No need to do the radio.

做podcast就行了嘛

Just do a podcast.

你

You

做podcast啊

Make a podcast.

還有那個什麼啊

What else is there?

啊

Ah

BAR RADIO啦

BAR RADIO!

哦

Oh

對喔

That's right.

你這麼多人聽

So many of you are listening.

你這麼出名

You are so famous.

你這麼紅

You are so popular.

不是啦

No, that's not it.

哪裡有紅

Where is the red?

比不上你啦

I can't compare to you.

馬來西亞的

Malaysia's

一哥嘛

Big Brother.

人家說

They say.

哈哈哈

Hahaha

什麼

What?

什麼你講

What are you talking about?

人家說一哥嘛

They say it's the big brother.

podcast的一哥啊

The top guy in the podcast.

誰說的

Who said that?

你之前那個人說的嘛

What that person said before.

誰說的

Who said that?

IG班的

IG class's

哦是嗎

Oh, really?

他們有說嗎

Did they say anything?

我沒聽到的

I didn't hear it.

哈哈哈

Hahaha

有啊

Yes.

你為什麼沒聽到

Why didn't you hear it?

我也有post上去

I also posted it up.

就是說他們認識你

That means they know you.

因為你是podcast的一哥嘛

Because you are the top guy in the podcast world.

一哥

Big Brother

就是說我第一個馬來西亞的podcast

That means my first podcast in Malaysia.

是啊

Yes.

大哥啊

Big brother!

大哥大啊你

Big Brother, it's you!

大哥大

Big Brother

肚子餓了一大

I'm very hungry.

哈哈哈

Hahaha

OK

OK

那所以我想

So I think...

其實呢

Actually, well...

其實你這樣說

Actually, what you say is like this.

你講月亮的錄音室

You talk about the moon's recording studio.

那

Then

我覺得你講的那些東西呢

I think the things you mentioned are...

完全就是跟你死後

It's completely about what happens after your death.

那個

That one.

那個東西完全沒有關係的

That thing has nothing to do with it.

你

You

你只是想想著

You are just thinking about it.

你如果是夢想要

If you want to dream

就是做不到的話

If you really can't do it.

死後就去做了

"Did it after death."

啊

Ah

那很無聊而已

That's just really boring.

你現在為什麼

Why are you now?

為什麼不要現在做到

Why not do it now?

做了它然後死就

Did it, then died.

如果真的有一天呢

What if one day it really happens?

呃

Uh

不可以出到唱片的話

If it cannot be released as a record.

哈哈哈

Hahaha

哦那你夢想是

Oh, what is your dream?

你是想死了才出唱片的

You only release albums when you want to die.

不是

No.

那又

What about that?

我是說

I mean to say.

如果就是生前呢

What if it is during one's lifetime?

未

Not yet

未有

Not yet

未有機會呢

Not yet an opportunity.

可以這樣做的話

If this can be done

那就等死後才做

Then do it after you die.

死後才做

Do it only after death.

這樣哦

Oh, I see.

那就是如果你是

That is, if you are.

有

There is/are.

你可以聽到那些鬼聲的

You can hear those ghostly voices.

如果你是聽到有人唱歌的

If you heard someone singing.

可能就是這個寂寞老師唱歌來的

It might be this lonely teacher singing.

如果是死的時候

If it's when dying.

哈哈哈

Hahaha

我如果是你這樣說的話

If I were you, I would say it like this.

如果我死了

If I die.

我要很健身

I want to get fit.

好大隻

So big.

好肉質

Good meat quality.

又好瘦

So thin again.

又好帥

So handsome!

那種

that kind

哈哈哈哈哈

Hahahahaha

哦

Oh.

為什麼你經常都是這樣期望

Why do you often have such expectations?

就是你

It's you.

你

You

哈哈哈

Hahaha

那我又不帥

Then I'm not handsome again.

那就這樣了

That's it then.

美

Beauty

為什麼不美

Why is it not beautiful?

美

Beautiful

大家可以去看那個

Everyone can go see that.

叮噹的阿

Ding-dong.

可以去看那個

You can go see that.

哎呀這裏

Oh dear, here.

有錄影啊

There is a video recording.

可以看到你啊

I can see you.

你是不是

Are you?

你是不是有沒有我這種的想法呢

Do you not have thoughts like mine?

我每次看到我自己

Every time I see myself

在畫面上看到我自己的畫

I can see my own painting on the screen.

我覺得自己很醜

I think I am very ugly.

你有沒有這麼的

Do you have this?

會啊會啊

Yeah, yeah.

你有沒有看一樣

Did you see the same thing?

哇

Wow

又胖

Again fat.

又不好看

Not good-looking either.

又

Again

又這個又那個

This and that.

不是

No.

你拍照呢

Are you taking pictures?

拍照也可以啦

Taking pictures is also fine.

因為你可以捉角度嘛

Because you can catch the angle.

那錄影...

That video...

對呀對呀

Yes, yes.

錄影就不行的

Recording is not allowed.

有時候整個樣子呢

Sometimes the whole appearance.

這個角度

This angle.

哪個角度都不好看

No angle looks good.

不漂亮一點都不行的

It must be beautiful, not at all less.

除非你不動

Unless you don't move.

對呀對呀

Yes, yes.

真的

Really.

因為一動

Because of a movement.

又走樣子了

It's become misshapen again.

有些肥肉又腾腾的

Some fatty meat is also steaming hot.

我有拍過我自己說話的樣子

I have filmed myself speaking.

我覺得很噁心

I feel very disgusted.

我也是的

I am too.

我自己也是這樣覺得的

I feel the same way myself.

你說說我們是不是

You say whether we are or not.

自己沒有自信心呢

Lack of self-confidence.

那些人

Those people

有這樣的想法

There is such a thought.

也是的

That's true.

呃...

Uh...

會...

Will...

會一點點

A little bit.

有時候我覺得

Sometimes I feel that

不是的

No.

因為...

Because...

不知道

I don't know.

只是覺得好像很肥

Just feel like it's very fat.

尤其是那個

Especially that one.

雙下巴

Double chin

你有沒有的

Do you have it?

你沒有吧

You don't have it, do you?

你...

You...

你的臉這麼皺

Your face is so wrinkled.

我的臉哪裡有皺

Where is there a wrinkle on my face?

對呀

That's right.

你的臉比我多一點

Your face has a little more than mine.

我的頸上好像有很多肉

It seems like there is a lot of flesh on my neck.

是嗎

Really?

你...

You...

你會有雙下巴嗎

Will you have a double chin?

會有三四個

There will be three or four.

我一看到我的雙下巴

As soon as I see my double chin.

我就很傷心的了

I am very sad.

還有呢

What else?

我的頸很短

My neck is very short.

那些...

Those...

那些臂...

Those arms...

那些...

Those...

那些怎麼說

How to say those?

Jig呀

Jig, huh?

嗯...

Um...

下巴

Chin

不是下巴

It's not the chin.

是Jig呀

It's Jig.

Jig是那個...

Jig is that...

臉的那種

That kind of face.

對呀

Yeah.

兩塊臉的那種

The kind with two faces.

對呀

That's right.

太過肥了是嗎

Is it too fat?

對呀

Yes.

不會呀

No way.

你的呀

Yours.

不會呀

No way!

我不知道

I don't know.

那我又覺得不會

Then I think it won't happen again.

以前瘦一點的時候呢

When I was a bit thinner before,

就比較有信心一點的

Then there will be a bit more confidence.

現在又肥了

Now I've gained weight again.

如果我是一百...

If I were a hundred...

一百七十磅

One hundred seventy pounds.

這樣就...

This way...

都...

All...

都不錯的

All are good.

都很有信心

Everyone is very confident.

那如果越來越肥的話呢

What if I get fatter and fatter?

信心就越來越多了

The more confidence there is, the more it grows.

那如果越來越肥的話呢

What if I keep getting fatter?

信心就越來越低了

Confidence is getting lower and lower.

哦對呀

Oh right!

現在...

Now...

不是嘛

Isn't it so?

你之前也減了肥的嘛

Did you lose weight before too?

現在又肥了

Now I'm fat again.

還沒肥到以前那個地步

Not yet as fat as I was before.

不過還是肥了很多

However, I have still gained a lot of weight.

不過你...

But you...

你應該...

You should...

你應該會比...

You should be better than...

更加瘦的

Thinner.

因為你好像打很多份工喔

Because it seems like you have many jobs.

我...

I...

我打兩份而已

I just printed two copies.

我不會瘦的

I won't lose weight.

就是...

It's just...

就是不會瘦

I just won't lose weight.

我只會...

I can only...

只會一件事會令我瘦的

Only one thing can make me lose weight.

就是去做運動

It's just about exercising.

去健身

Go to the gym.

我現在好...

I am doing well now...

多個月都還沒去了

It hasn't been visited for several months.

有時候有病

Sometimes there's an illness.

有時候有做...

Sometimes there are things done...

做...

Do...

打兩份工有忙

Working two jobs is busy.

哦...

Oh...

那...

Well...

那所以...

So...

我只是做運動

I am just exercising.

會瘦的

Will lose weight.

就是你平時...

It's just that you usually...

少吃東西

Eat less food.

都不會瘦的

Won't lose weight at all.

都...

All...

都不會說很瘦的

They won't say (someone is) very skinny.

哦OK

Oh, okay.

那...

Well...

我是要做運動才行的

I need to exercise.

那我不吃東西就會瘦的

Then I will lose weight if I don’t eat.

我不行的

I can't do it.

是啊

Yes.

我...

I...

可能我沒試過不吃東西

Maybe I've never tried not eating anything.

我常常...

I often...

我不...

I don't...

我如果是忙的話

If I am busy

都吃東西

Everyone is eating.

現在...

Now...

如果是太有空的話

If it's too free...

都是吃東西

It's all about eating.

哦

Oh

就是...

It's just...

就是總之是...

In short, it's...

去上班也好

Going to work is fine too.

總之一定要吃東西的

In short, you must eat something.

對

Yes.

就是不會...

I just won't...

不會說減少幾餐啊

I won't say to reduce a few meals.

這樣

Like this.

不會的

It won't happen.

我一定會吃的

I will definitely eat it.

可能是吃多一點的

It might be because I ate a bit too much.

哇

Wow

如果是...

If it is...

是...

Yes...

有緊張的話

If there is tension.

就吃多一點

Just eat a little more.

哇

Wow

那你就...

Then you just...

那比較慘一點

That's a bit worse.

因為...

Because...

又打兩份工

Working two jobs again.

當然是兩份工

Of course, it's two jobs.

有兩份工的緊張嘛

Is there tension with having two jobs?

那...

Well...

就慘相賠哦

It's a complete disaster for compensation.

就是...

That's it...

這樣才會死啊

This is how you die.

對

Yes.

OK

OK

那好啦

Alright then.

那我們的節目就到此為止啦

Then our program will end here.

好啦好啦

Alright, alright.

如果大家有興趣的話

If everyone is interested.

就不妨寫信給你這個節目主持

Then I might as well write a letter to you, the host of this program.

節目教室的節目主...

The program host of the classroom program...

節目主持

Program host

呃...

Uh...

跟你說

I tell you.

你想邀請我回來做節目呢

You want to invite me back to do a show?

對啦

That's right.

就這樣吧

That's it then.

OK

OK

那樣就...

Then...

拜拜

Goodbye

喂...

Hey...

小弟

Younger brother.

哈哈哈哈

Hahaha

哈哈

Haha

那...

Well...

我有了這個

I have this.

我有了

I have it.

我寄給你

I will send it to you.

蛤?

Huh?

寄給你

Sent to you.

OK啦

Okay then.

好啦好啦好啦

Alright, alright, alright.

那我們結束啦

Then we'll end it here.

他在說...

He is saying...

他在說什麼

What is he talking about?

哈哈哈哈

Hahaha

對不起

I'm sorry.

我寄給你

I will send it to you.

OK

OK

好啦

Alright.

各位朋友

Dear friends

那剛才聽過了呢

I just heard that.

我和John on之間的談話之後呢

After the conversation between John and me, what happened?

不知道大家有什麼意見呢

I wonder what everyone's opinions are.

OK

OK

那...

Well...

其實

Actually

我想

I want.

如果要達成自己的願望呢

If you want to achieve your wishes?

最好呢

Best.

就是

That's it.

在...

In...

在世的時候呢

When alive,

就可以...

Just can...

可以...

Can...

去...

Go to...

去嘗試去達成了

Go and try to achieve it.

哈哈哈

Hahaha

沒有等到死之後呢

Not waiting until after death.

才來...

Just arrived...

為憾啦

What a pity.

才來說...

Just came to say...

沒試過啊

I haven't tried it.

等等啊

Wait a minute.

OK

Okay

好啦

Alright.

那在下個星期呢

What about next week?

John on呢

Where is John?

就會繼續上來我們的節目那裡呢

Then I will continue to come onto our show.

來做嘉賓的喔

Come to be a guest!

那...

Well...

希望在下個星期

Hope for next week.

你會繼續守住...

You will continue to hold on...

寂寞教室

Lonely Classroom

在下個星期

Next week

我們再見

See you again.

拜拜

Goodbye