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香港电台文教组制作 教学有心人

Produced by the Education and Culture Division of RTHK, Teaching with Heart.

主持 钟杰良 陈迪安

Hosts: Zhong Jieliang, Chen Di'an

来到教学有心人 可以说是新的学期 新的开始

Coming to the teaching community can be said to be a new semester and a new beginning.

上两集我们请了两位校长分享一下

In the last two episodes, we invited two principals to share their thoughts.

小学升到中学的时候 同学可以要些什么

What can students ask for when they move from elementary school to middle school?

我们今天请来两位同学分别都很优秀 得到很多奖项

Today, we have invited two students who are both excellent and have received many awards.

来和我们分享一下 到底学生在学习方面

Come and share with us what students are really like in their learning.

又或者社会贡献方面 可以有什么份额

Or what contributions can there be in terms of social contribution?

今次这两位学生就特别了 你刚才说他得到很多奖

These two students are particularly special this time; you just mentioned that he has won many awards.

因为我们学界都有一个大奖

Because we in academia have a prestigious award.

就是由南华组部那里 攀发给我们香港的学生

It was sent to us Hong Kong students by the Nanhua Group.

所以我们今天邀请到两位同学上来

So today we have invited two students to come up.

第一位是潘荣林同学 另外一位是欧阳俊谦同学

The first is student Pan Ronglin, and the other is student Ouyang Junqian.

一会儿先让他们自己介绍一下 他来自哪个学校

Let's have them introduce themselves first and say which school they come from.

大家好 我是欧阳俊谦 英文名大家都可以叫我Anthony

Hello everyone, I am Ouyang Junqian. You can all call me Anthony.

我是来自香港的 欧阳俊谦 欧阳俊谦

I am Ouyang Junqian from Hong Kong. Ouyang Junqian.

来自圣保罗书院 南校的那一间圣保罗

The St. Paul from the South Campus of St. Paul College.

这个奖项我觉得对于我而言

I think this award is significant for me.

除了是去推广广东话的运用

In addition to promoting the use of Cantonese.

我觉得更加重要的是 一个语言上的运用

I think what is more important is the application of a language.

我们现在的社会有很多不同的议题

Our society now has many different issues.

有机会有很多的争议 很多的讨论之类

There are many controversies and discussions about opportunities.

所以我觉得这个语言的运用

So I think the use of this language

是可以帮我们在社会上 进行更好的沟通

It can help us communicate better in society.

就可以更加有效地去解决问题

It can more effectively solve problems.

同时也是一个

At the same time, it is also a...

去表达自己想法的媒介

A medium to express one's thoughts.

所以我对语言就是有这个兴趣在这里

So I have this interest in language here.

你对历史都好像有兴趣

You seem to have an interest in history.

那些校史 说圣保罗到底有多少间呢

How many schools are there in St. Paul according to those school histories?

又怎样分呢

How to divide it then?

一会儿有机会就再跟你谈

I'll talk to you again when I have the chance.

但是怎样都不够Deon的学校

But it is still not enough for Deon's school.

历史又够的

History is enough.

又说这个话题

Let's talk about this topic again.

不是啊 上次好像是不是校长来的

No, it seems like it wasn't the principal who came last time.

是啊 上次就是袁校长过来和我们做访问

Yes, last time Principal Yuan came to visit us.

是啊 你们都好像有争一日之长短的

Yeah, it seems like you all are competing for a short period of time.

是 学校的历史

It is the history of the school.

校龄 是啊

School age, yes.

那另一位就是也得到年度学生大奖的

The other one is the one who also received the Annual Student Award.

也是可持续发展领袖

Also a leader in sustainable development.

潘泳林 还是CEO

Pan Yonglin is still the CEO.

还是未来很厉害的联合国都靠你拯救的

The powerful future of the United Nations still relies on your salvation.

不如自我介绍一下吧

Why not introduce yourself?

嗨 我的名字叫潘泳林

Hi, my name is Pan Yonglin.

你们可以叫我Jane

You can call me Jane.

我就是香港国际学校升中六的学生来的

I am a student at Hong Kong International School entering the sixth form.

那我一向对可持续发展领袖的讨论是什么呢

So what has my discussion on sustainable development leaders been?

其实我对这个讨论有很大兴趣

Actually, I am very interested in this discussion.

我小时候看了一个节目就是说

When I was a child, I watched a show that said...

我们现在的地球的状况

The current state of our Earth.

看完之后

After watching it.

生病了

Sick.

是啊 我看完之后

Yeah, after I finished watching it.

对环保这方面真的非常感兴趣

Really very interested in environmental protection.

我就做过很多不同的组织

I have been involved in many different organizations.

做过很多不同的商业

Have done many different businesses.

去对可持续发展领袖

Go to the leaders of sustainable development.

希望拯救地球

Hope to save the Earth.

是啊

Yeah.

在这个奖项当中

In this award.

你是怎么参与呢?

How did you participate?

又或者那个组别

Or that group.

按照你的广东话

According to your Cantonese.

当然是不够欧阳同学

Of course, it's not enough, Ouyang classmate.

其他组别你又可以参加

You can also participate in other groups.

可不可以这样呢?

Is it possible to do it this way?

是啊

Yeah.

因为本身这个可持续发展领袖

Because the leader of sustainable development itself...

今年是新的

This year is new.

我本身这个比赛也有想过应不应该参加

I have also thought about whether I should participate in this competition.

因为其他的组别

Because of other groups.

我也觉得我不太适合他们

I also feel that I am not very suitable for them.

但是一看到可持续发展这个组别开始了

But as soon as I saw that the sustainability group had started,

我觉得真的一定要参加

I really think I must participate.

因为这个真的对我很大的热心

Because this really means a lot to me.

是

Yes

在这个奖项的评审当中

In the evaluation of this award

有没有说是需要怎么样

Is there any mention of what is needed?

面试啊

Interview.

写个红文啊

Write a red text.

还是拿些什么工具出去

Should we take some tools out?

我怎么可持续发明了一些东西

How can I sustainably invent something?

怎么去评核的呢

How to assess it?

以你所知

As far as you know.

一开始呢

At the beginning, you see.

你就是要写一个写字的应用

You just have to create an application for writing.

意思是你要写你自己

It means you need to write about yourself.

有做过什么课外活动

Have you participated in any extracurricular activities?

是和可持续发展有关的

It is related to sustainable development.

有没有拿过什么奖

Have you ever won any awards?

另外呢

In addition,

我们也要拍一条片

We also want to shoot a video.

我写了一篇文章

I wrote an article.

是说自己的经历

It means sharing one's own experiences.

经历里面有没有得着的

Is there anything gained from the experience?

我就是拍了一条片

I just filmed a video.

就是说小时候开始

It means starting from childhood.

对可持续发展的贡献

Contribution to sustainable development.

另外呢

In addition,

之后呢

What happens next?

他就会再筛选

He will filter again.

应该大约十至十二个学生

There should be about ten to twelve students.

去做一个interview

Go for an interview.

去做一个面试

Go for a job interview.

在那里呢

Where is it?

因为我其中一个project

Because of one of my projects.

我就是帮一些人去翻身他们的手袋

I just help some people turn their handbags over.

和他们的鞋

And their shoes.

就是有些旧的手袋和旧的鞋

It's just some old handbags and old shoes.

我就帮他们做翻身

I help them turn over.

你帮他们翻身

You help them turn over.

是呀

Yes.

因为我很喜欢画画

Because I really like to paint.

我就会在上面画画

I will draw on it.

看看可以怎样修补他们

Let's see how we can fix them.

我就带了我的作品去给评判看

I brought my work to show the judges.

听你这么说

Listening to you say that.

从小到大

From childhood to adulthood.

你都对拯救地球是事为己任

You take it as your responsibility to save the Earth.

你是很想做多些环保工作

You really want to do more environmental work.

或者可持续

Or it could be sustainable.

刚才说到手袋之外

Just now, apart from handbags.

你应该是有一些计划

You should have some plans.

可以让到这些评判

Can allow these judgments.

对你另眼相看的

Look at you in a different light.

要不然他不会给你一个奖

Otherwise, he wouldn't give you an award.

你的计划是什么

What is your plan?

就是开了一间公司

Just opened a company.

听问你想隐藏这间公司

I heard you want to hide this company.

现在要说了

Now I'm going to say it.

商业秘密也要透露一点

Some trade secrets should also be revealed a little.

我大约几年前

I about a few years ago.

我就开了一间公司

I just started a company.

叫做EcoVendor

Called EcoVendor.

它是一个餐具借环的公司

It is a company that offers a tableware borrowing service.

是因为大家都知道

It's because everyone knows.

其实现在因为我们买外卖

Actually now because we order takeout.

也多了很多

There are also many more.

所以我们就会用很多塑胶的餐具

So we will use a lot of plastic utensils.

或者一些熄气的餐具

Or some extinguished tableware.

叫你拿些铁餐具出去

I asked you to take some iron cutlery outside.

你都觉得很不方便

You find it very inconvenient.

所以我们就做了一个计划

So we made a plan.

可以让市民可以很方便地租借

It allows citizens to conveniently rent.

一些不锈钢的餐具

Some stainless steel utensils.

刚才你举了一个例子

You just gave an example.

就是好像我们借一些充电的设施

It’s like we are borrowing some charging facilities.

就是可能有一个箱子

There may be a box.

然后放在某些地方

Then put it in certain places.

你想借就把钱放进去

If you want to borrow, just put the money in.

现在暂时来说

For now, for the time being.

透露一点点商业秘密

Revealing a little bit of commercial secret.

可能是20元

It might be 20 yuan.

然后你还的时候

Then when you return it.

可能会给你17元

I might give you 17 yuan.

这个就是它大概的构思

This is roughly its concept.

现在大家想一想

Now everyone think about it.

譬如我们在座

For example, we are present here.

另外三位朋友

The other three friends.

问一下欧阳同学

Ask Ouyang classmate.

欧阳同学你会不会借呢

Ouyang, will you lend it?

我在环保方面

I am in the field of environmental protection.

我也是个人来说

I am also a person.

我也是颇为着重的

I also place quite a bit of emphasis on it.

不过我本身

However, I myself...

因为我是一个童军

Because I am a scout.

所以我也是自己家里

So I am also at home.

有一些不锈钢的餐具

There are some stainless steel utensils.

如果是当刻对我来说

If it's in that moment for me.

是方便一点的

It's a bit more convenient.

把它带出去的话

If you take it outside.

那我是应该就不会借

Then I probably shouldn't lend it.

但是通常出街

But usually when going out

可能赶时间的话

If you might be in a hurry.

我出街我见到一个这样的

I went out and saw one like this.

暂身的一个产品

A product of temporary residency.

我都会颇为感兴趣

I would be quite interested.

同军

Same army

在你旁边这个

This one next to you.

就是利岛区

It is the Lidao District.

你要自己介绍

You need to introduce yourself.

我不要说我同军那些

I don't want to talk about those things with my comrades.

我们稍后再说

We'll talk about it later.

意思是同军也是一线

It means that the same army is also on the front line.

起码要有一些东西

At least there should be something.

是真的同军会经常带着

It is true that the military association often brings it along.

我记得以前认识那些哥哥弟弟

I remember knowing those older brothers and younger brothers in the past.

都是带着降水壶上学的

Everyone goes to school with a rainwater pot.

都会有的

It will be there.

我做同军做中一二的时候

When I was in the same military unit, doing middle school one and two.

已经试过带着降水壶

I have already tried bringing the watering can.

不过他们应该现在这个年代

However, they should be in this era now.

不会的了

It won't happen.

不过同军就有这么说

However, there is such a saying among the troops.

因为他学习的时间

Because of the time he studied.

都怎样跟大自然亲近

How to get close to nature?

有一个保护大自然的心态

Having a mindset of protecting nature.

所以也都

So all of them do too.

我想久而久之

I want to over time.

都会可以培育到

Can be cultivated in all cities.

大家会对这个环境

Everyone will have opinions about this environment.

更加多一个爱护之心

An additional caring heart.

不过刚才你说到

However, just now you mentioned...

借用这个餐具

Borrowing this cutlery.

当然你刚才好像梁哥说

Of course, it seems like Brother Liang just said.

你说你有个箱子放在这里

You said you have a box placed here.

你可能就20元

You might just have 20 yuan.

就可以借餐具

You can borrow tableware.

但是如果我已经去到餐厅

But if I have already gone to the restaurant.

餐厅应该都会提供餐具

Restaurants should provide utensils.

我吃东西的

I eat things.

我们有协作的

We have collaboration.

我帮你

I help you.

CEO就是说餐厅不提供餐具

The CEO said that the restaurant does not provide utensils.

要自己带

Must bring your own.

对

Correct.

如果自己带

If you bring it yourself.

一来就令你有环保意识

It immediately raises your awareness of environmental protection.

二来我们都有条路给你走

Secondly, we all have a path for you to take.

就是你可以租借

You can rent it.

这个正正就好像现在香港的学校

This is just like the schools in Hong Kong now.

我想大家在学校都知道的

I think everyone at school knows this.

譬如有些学生在学校吃饭

For example, some students eat at school.

没有办法

No way.

有些不是每个都带饭的

Not everyone brings their own lunch.

那你订饭盒

Then you order the lunch box.

订饭盒以前很流行

Ordering lunch boxes used to be very popular.

都会提供那些胶叉

Will those plastic forks be provided?

胶巾这样的

Such a gel towel.

现在就不会了

Not right now.

现在我们要求所有的学生

Now we require all students.

都自己带备他的

Everyone brings their own.

可重用的餐具

Reusable utensils

就自己带回家洗好

Just take it home and wash it yourself.

又或者学校

Or the school.

有一些学校会自己提供

Some schools will provide it themselves.

洗涤区

Washing area

让他们可以洗完

Let them finish washing.

洗干净才带回家

Only bring it home after it's cleaned.

甚至有一些放在locker

Some are even placed in lockers.

明天又拿出来用

I'll take it out to use again tomorrow.

就是陈校长就说

Principal Chen said.

陈校长你不用把机器放进来

Principal Chen, you don't need to bring the machine in.

我们这些同学全部都带了

All of us classmates brought it.

我们也有同学不记得带的

Some of our classmates also forgot to bring theirs.

可能有机会

There may be an opportunity.

那你生意淡薄

Then your business is slow.

你可能一天只有三个

You may only have three in a day.

一家学校有三间

A school has three classrooms.

我们全港有千间

We have a thousand stores across the city.

那也是

That is also true.

但是我帮少成本

But I help save costs.

投资投资

Investment investment

那就是说

That means.

中学的朋友就觉得

Friends from middle school feel that

在校内起码反应就可能普通了

The response on campus might be ordinary at least.

而一般的青少年朋友

And ordinary teenage friends

就可能觉得

might feel

刚才他有说

He just said.

就是新的product

It's the new product.

那就用一下

Then let's use it.

就是说贪新鲜

It means to crave novelty.

那就很难持续下去的

Then it will be very difficult to continue.

那我也觉得

Then I also think so.

可能你要少少转向

You might need to turn a little.

可能是要令到租借那种东西

It might be to make something that is rented.

他都想保留的

He wants to keep it all.

就变成一个好像souvenir

It becomes something like a souvenir.

譬如可能潘同学有你的肖像

For example, it is possible that Classmate Pan has your portrait.

这个肖像就是租借物的

This portrait belongs to the rented items.

然后20元

Then 20 yuan.

可能你在当中就收回成本之余

Perhaps you can recoup your costs in the process.

也都可以有利润

It can also be profitable.

变成了除了是租借之外

It has become something other than just a rental.

还有一种买卖

There is another kind of trade.

那可能那个获利

That might be the profit.

就会比较丰富

It will be relatively rich.

你考虑一下

Think about it.

欧阳同学说到广东话

Ouyang said something about Cantonese.

刚才在言谈之间

Just now in the conversation.

你都好像对辩论

You seem to be quite fond of debates.

都很有兴趣

Very interested.

希望在辩论当中

Hope in the debate.

就带到一些东西给大家

Just bring some things for everyone.

但是我们一般凡夫俗子

But we are generally ordinary people.

听到辩论都会说什么

What do people usually say when they listen to a debate?

陈同学

Student Chen

你是不是生我的气

Are you mad at me?

是不是生我的气

Are you angry with me?

我们都请了一个

We all hired one.

由天的校长上来说

From the principal above.

他说这帮同学

He said this group of classmates.

前途也挺好

The future is also quite good.

证明在辩论队

Proof of being in the debate team.

也出了很多优秀分子

Many outstanding individuals have also emerged.

当然也有他的原位

Of course, there is also his original position.

可能是因为你厉害

It might be because you are impressive.

所以才进入辩论队

That's why I joined the debate team.

即是鸡和鸡蛋

It's the chicken and the egg.

我想欧阳同学

I miss classmate Ouyang.

应该是厉害

It should be impressive.

所以进入辩论队

So I joined the debate team.

希望

Hope

那你如何在辩论当中

Then how do you in the debate?

带到什么

What to bring?

希望我们的广东话

I hope our Cantonese.

又或者我们的文化

Or perhaps our culture.

有什么进步呢

What progress has been made?

刚才监制提到

The producer just mentioned.

会不会是因为厉害

Could it be because it is impressive?

所以才进入辩论队呢

That's why I joined the debate team.

其实我觉得

Actually, I think...

现时的香港辩论界

The current debate scene in Hong Kong.

大多数的学校

Most schools

未必是真的有这个成本

It may not necessarily be true that there is this cost.

是可以真的去做一个

It is really possible to do one.

很严谨的一个筛选过程出来

A very rigorous screening process was conducted.

因为我觉得

Because I feel that

辩论这件事

Debating this matter.

其实本身是比较小众

In fact, it is relatively niche.

当然就是带到什么给我们呢

Of course, what will it bring us?

其实我个人是

Actually, I personally am…

觉得是一种很有用的工具

I think it is a very useful tool.

因为你在辩论方面

Because you are in the field of debate.

你可以去学一些批判性思考

You can go learn some critical thinking.

你在不同的议题里面去进行讨论

You engage in discussions on different topics.

你会学习很多新的东西

You will learn a lot of new things.

有些人会觉得是

Some people may feel that it is.

打完辩论一定是

The debate must be over.

我做大律师这样上法庭

I will be a barrister and go to court like this.

这样跟大家辩驳

This is how to argue with everyone.

我觉得是不一定的

I think it’s not necessarily so.

我觉得是做任何的行业

I think it’s about doing any industry.

其实这种思考的训练

In fact, this kind of thinking training

都是会帮到你

They will all help you.

但是我觉得现时

But I think at the moment

香港有很多学生可能就觉得

Many students in Hong Kong might feel that

你一个星期又要挨揍

You’re going to get beaten up again this week.

然后又要花这么多的时间

Then it takes so much time again.

放学之后要去开会

I have to attend a meeting after school.

未必是会真的很踊跃

Not necessarily will it be very enthusiastic.

去想参与辩论

Go think about participating in the debate.

但是就是说

But that is to say

你怎样在当中想推介

How do you want to recommend it among them?

又或者怎样令到大家参与辩论

Or how to encourage everyone to participate in the debate.

因为我也觉得

Because I also think so.

有时候辩论

Sometimes debate.

都好像牢牢地交

It all seems tightly bound.

当然在辩论过程当中

Of course, during the course of the debate.

是有很多资料搜集

There is a lot of data collection.

就令到个人很有争议的

It makes the individual very controversial.

但是我又普通

But I am ordinary again.

但是你刚才就是说到

But you just mentioned that...

希望都推广

Hope to promote it everywhere.

推广当然有背后的目标

Promotion obviously has underlying goals.

又或者希望

Or hope.

人民素质是不是有提升

Has the quality of the people improved?

还是怎样呢

Or how about that?

如果每个都好像你

If everyone were like you.

又或者好像我

Or it could be like me.

一轮坠的说话

The words of a falling moon.

有时候都好像很吵

Sometimes it seems really noisy.

我现在其实就是

I am actually right now.

在香港辩论学界联会那里

At the Hong Kong Debate Association.

是在做一个比赛工作人员

I am a staff member for a competition.

我的工作其实就是去

My job is actually to go.

协助比赛的进行

Assist in the conduct of the competition.

因为始终他们人手上

Because they always have it in their hands.

是会有这个不足的情况

There will indeed be situations where this is insufficient.

所以其实我的目标就是

So my goal is actually to...

在中学毕业之后

After graduating from middle school

大学的时候

In college.

就正式加入联会去成为一个

Just officially join the federation to become one.

可以说是正式的筹位

It can be said that it is a formal arrangement.

在这些比赛的进行当中

During the course of these competitions

尝试去普及辩论

Try to popularize debate.

因为我觉得辩论

Because I feel that debating

其实不一定是要

Actually, it doesn't have to be.

真的就着一个议题

Really just on one topic.

好像我们比赛那样

It seems like our competition.

就是你一定要赢

You must win.

你就是要不断地咬到底

You just have to keep biting down to the end.

但我觉得其实辩论最大的意义

But I think the greatest significance of debate is

在真的摆在社会上去实践

To truly put it into practice in society.

其实是为大家去寻求一个共识

In fact, it is to seek a consensus for everyone.

我觉得这个沟通的过程

I think this communication process

你有你的看法

You have your own opinion.

我有我的一些立场

I have my own positions.

我觉得双方不一定要

I don't think both parties necessarily have to.

好像比赛那样不断去咬

It seems like constantly biting like in a competition.

反而是应该去就着这些议题

On the contrary, we should focus on these issues.

去进行一个理性的讨论

To have a rational discussion.

有一个共识之后

Once there is a consensus.

我们就真的可以去

We can really go.

为社会解决多一些不同的问题

To solve more different problems for society.

我这个想法真的值得鼓励

My idea is really worth encouraging.

你有你的看法

You have your own point of view.

大家知道辩论是正反双方

Everyone knows that a debate involves both positive and negative sides.

最重要大家学到一样东西

The most important thing is that everyone learns something.

你的说法是对的

Your statement is correct.

但不代表我的说法是错的

But it doesn't mean that my statement is incorrect.

大家都有大家自己的立场

Everyone has their own stance.

大家都是就着一个辩题

Everyone is focusing on one debate topic.

大家可以谈

Everyone can talk.

最重要的是互相尊重

The most important thing is mutual respect.

和而不同

Harmony without uniformity.

这个是很重要的学习方法

This is a very important learning method.

即是有风度

That is to have grace.

对

Correct.

好像有些奖是

It seems that some awards are

最佳辩议员

Best Debater

辩论都可能是一些当中的必要条件

Debates can be a necessary condition among some of them.

可能我很赞成辩方的同学

I might agree with the defense students.

只不过我又觉得

It's just that I feel again

那个风度是不是算了

Is that charm considered over?

这个好像是考DSE的欧罗

This seems to be the Euro for the DSE exam.

有风度分

Have grace and demeanor.

我们的分子是有风度分

Our molecules are graceful.

所以这个就是鼓励到

So this is encouraging.

但好像那时候有些反宣传

But it seems that there was some counter-propaganda at that time.

大学的辩论

University Debate

就是说教绩你都不懂

It means you don't understand the achievements of teaching at all.

反台那些

Anti-Taiwan ones.

我又看过这段片

I have watched this segment again.

站起来的

Standing up

有时有些朋友在辩论

Sometimes some friends are debating.

他不知道那个精髓

He doesn't know that essence.

以为真的以为闹架

Thought it was really a fight.

总之我拗赢你

In short, I won against you.

我就赢辩论了

I just won the debate.

其实打辩论不是这样的

Actually, debating is not like this.

会不会欧阳同学有些精髓

Could it be that Classmate Ouyang has some essence?

可以和我们分享到

Can you share with us?

当然啦

Of course!

风度分

Style points

一定是要计落那场比赛那里的

It must be about calculating that match there.

但是我觉得

But I think

在我们进行一些的讨论当中

During our discussions.

就是现实生活没有分子

It's just that real life has no molecules.

但我觉得就算没有了分子

But I feel that even without the molecule.

就算没有了风度分的这一样东西

Even if there is no such thing as a dignity score.

我觉得理性讨论

I think rational discussion.

是有意义讨论的一个必要条件

A necessary condition for meaningful discussion.

因为始终我们人是有情感的动物

Because we are emotional beings after all.

当我们进行一些讨论的时候

When we have some discussions

若然有一方

If there is one party

可能他的措辞是比较失当的

His wording may have been somewhat inappropriate.

若然大家是变了一个

If everyone has changed into one.

很激情很激动的讨论

A very passionate and exciting discussion.

这件事就很容易令到我们

This matter can easily lead us to...

讨论会升温

The discussion is heating up.

最后不是变了一个理性的讨论

In the end, it didn't turn into a rational discussion.

而是真的变了吵架

But it really turned into an argument.

所以我觉得辩论的精髓

So I think the essence of debate.

应该是尊重对方的一些看法

It should be about respecting each other's opinions.

不一定要完全反对他说的话

You don't necessarily have to completely oppose what he said.

但是至少你可以站定自己的立场

But at least you can stand firm in your position.

但是你也要尊重对方

But you also need to respect the other party.

然后去找一个共识出来

Then go find a consensus.

我觉得这个才是辩论的一个精髓

I think this is the essence of debate.

如果放到社会层面讨论

If discussed from a societal perspective.

还有有时候也是就着辩题去辩论而已

Sometimes it is just to debate based on the topic.

不是针对着

Not aimed at.

比如说欧阳和我要辩赢你

For example, Ouyang and I want to win the debate against you.

不是这样

Not like this.

辩题你要正反双方

You need both pro and con sides for the debate topic.

你的辩题当中是获胜的

Your argument is winning.

就是针对辩题

It is specifically aimed at the debate topic.

不是针对辩题

Not aimed at the debate topic.

是针对人

It is aimed at people.

我们男方说了

Our side (the man) has spoken.

女方在辩论方面

The female side in the debate aspect

你有没有什么想补充呢

Do you have anything to add?

辩论方面

In terms of debates

我小时候也有做过辩论的

I also did debate when I was young.

但是现在就没有那么多了

But now there isn't that much anymore.

但是我觉得辩论

But I think the debate...

刚刚欧阳和我说的那些

What Ouyang just told me.

我觉得在气候公义这个问题

I think on the issue of climate justice.

里面也有很多

There are many inside as well.

你好像经常去联合国

You seem to go to the United Nations often.

有时候发言也需要

Sometimes speaking up is also necessary.

有时候也要大家谈的

Sometimes we need to talk about it as a group.

是的

Yes.

说这个empathy

Talk about this empathy.

对大家的尊重

Respect for everyone.

明白大家的立场

Understand everyone's position.

这个也很重要

This is also very important.

因为我在联合国那边

Because I am over at the United Nations.

我就是他们的联合国训练研究所

I am their United Nations Training Research Institute.

其中一个青年的大使

One of the youth ambassadors.

我另外在联合国各种的

I am also involved in various activities at the United Nations.

在环境保育的部门

In the field of environmental conservation.

我也有去帮忙的

I also went to help.

所以我会认识很多世界各地的人

So I will get to know many people from all over the world.

有些是在美国来的

Some are from the United States.

但是有些会在非洲来的

But some will come in Africa.

或者是在一些

Or in some.

可能是没有那么发展了的国家

It might be a country that is not so developed.

大家都有不同的想法

Everyone has different ideas.

大家都有不同的priorities

Everyone has different priorities.

就是怎么去谈呢

So how do we talk about it?

人人都有那么多不同的背景

Everyone has so many different backgrounds.

有见过很多不同的讨论

I have seen many different discussions.

所以你要跟着欧阳同学

So you need to follow classmate Ouyang.

一起加入辩论的工作

Join the work of the debate together.

对呀

That's right.

学一下怎么去做

Learn how to do it.

将来在联合国

In the future at the United Nations.

可能那个共融性就更大了

Perhaps that inclusivity would be even greater.

不过与此同时

However, at the same time

千万不要忘记老师的功劳

Never forget the contributions of the teacher.

因为有时候

Because sometimes

经常带你们去参加很多活动

Frequently take you to participate in many activities.

或者参观很多地方

Or visit many places.

老师也付出很多

Teachers also put in a lot of effort.

接着这位宋老师

Then this Teacher Song.

也都准备了

Also prepared.

这个付出的概念

The concept of giving.

对于他来说

For him.

他已经继续了

He has continued.

而且还准备贡献给大家

And it is also prepared to be contributed to everyone.

一起来听听

Let's listen together.

《心动教室》

"Heartbeat Classroom"

大家好

Hello everyone.

我是张轩昌中学的宋丽莹老师

I am Teacher Song Liying from Zhangxuanchang Middle School.

我是一个数学老师

I am a math teacher.

是一个努力培养学生才华

It is a努力to cultivate students' talents.

期望和学生一起不断进步的

Hope to continuously improve together with the students.

中学数学老师

Middle school math teacher

我做了中学数学老师的这几年

These past few years as a middle school math teacher.

发现了我们的学生

We have found our students.

在中学求学期间

During my time in middle school

很容易会迷失自己

It's easy to lose oneself.

可能大家会很疑惑

Everyone might be very confused.

一个中学生有多少烦恼

How many troubles does a middle school student have?

不就是想下一次测验

Isn't it just wanting the next test?

可以怎样拿高分

How can I achieve high scores?

当然了

Of course.

老师和学生之间

Between teachers and students.

经常都会在考核知识的时候

Often during assessments of knowledge

斗智斗勇

Outsmarting and outmatching.

除此之外

Apart from that

全人发展依然都是这个社会

Holistic development still belongs to this society.

对中学生最主要的期望

The main expectations for middle school students.

除了追求学科的成绩进步

In addition to pursuing improvement in academic performance.

老师还需要带着他们

The teacher still needs to guide them.

去参加不同的参观活动

Go to participate in different visiting activities.

比赛

Match

去获得一些

Go get some.

同人相处合作的技巧

Techniques for Collaboration and Interaction Among Peers

和领导能力

Leadership skills

甚至他们现在要掌握科技

Even they need to master technology now.

设计完成一份

Design a completed document.

可以解决生活问题的提案

Proposals that can solve life problems.

老师和学生之间

Between teachers and students

就多了这些很多的合作机会

There are many more cooperation opportunities.

学生希望在老师身上

Students hope to learn from their teachers.

可以获得更多

Can obtain more.

学科以外的意见

Opinions outside the subject.

例如

For example.

怎样可以和不同的人相处

How can we get along with different people?

甚至是和敌人相处的方法

Even the way to get along with enemies.

怎样可以更加

How can I be more?

简洁

Concise

清晰

Clear

和其他人表达自己的想法等等

Expressing one's thoughts with others, etc.

面对着这个情况

Facing this situation.

我除了要在备课的时候

In addition to preparing lessons, I need to...

不断研究一些吸引同学

Continuously researching some things that attract classmates.

专心听书的教学方法之外

Besides the teaching method of focusing on listening to books.

我还要学会分享自己学习

I also need to learn to share my learning.

温习的方法

Methods of review

和最重要是要在课余的时间

And most importantly, it should be done in one's spare time.

带着学生去分析

Take the students to analyze.

现在社会的发展是怎样

What is the development of society like now?

甚至我还要做很多自我的反思

I even need to do a lot of self-reflection.

说回自己一些失败的经验

Talk about some of my failed experiences.

和分享我认为

And share what I think.

可以帮助解决问题的方法给他们

Ways to help them solve problems.

想成为一个老师

Want to become a teacher.

其实是我自小就已经有的想法

In fact, it's an idea I have had since I was young.

在我求学的阶段

During my academic years

有很多老师都帮我解决了很多问题

Many teachers have helped me solve many problems.

无论是幼稚园的时候

Whether it was in kindergarten

会和妈妈一样温柔的帮助人

Will gently help others just like mom.

还是小学的时候

It was still in elementary school.

会很严厉的抓住我

Will catch me very harshly.

不同的字体

Different fonts

和违规行为的老师

And the teacher with violations.

还是中学的时候

It was still in middle school.

会愿意陪伴我

Would be willing to accompany me.

带着我去不同的活动比赛

Take me to different events and competitions.

甚至在一些没有办法预计

Even in some situations that cannot be anticipated.

十分伤心的离别

A deeply sorrowful farewell.

都很愿意拿时间

Everyone is willing to take the time.

体谅学生

Understand students.

尊重学生的中学老师

Respect for students' high school teachers.

全部都是我想成为的老师

They are all the teachers I want to become.

他们每一位都很认真教学

They each take teaching very seriously.

重视同学的需要

Value the needs of classmates.

同时间

At the same time

更加是我们对自己

Even more so, it is about ourselves.

想成为一个怎样的大人的时候

What kind of adult do you want to become?

对将来觉得很迷茫的时候

When feeling confused about the future.

以身作则

Lead by example.

可以成为到我们榜样的老师

Can become a teacher who is a role model for us.

大概是因为这些老师

It's probably because of these teachers.

闪闪发光的形象

Shimmering image

令到我有时的梦想

Making me sometimes dream.

更加清晰地绘画出来

Draw it out more clearly.

令到我更加发奋地

It motivates me even more.

学习书本上很难的知识

Learning difficult knowledge from books.

装备自己

Equip oneself.

令到自己有朝一日

To make oneself someday

都可以成为

Can all become.

像他们这样的老师

Teachers like them

帮助到其他学生

Help other students.

去实现自己的目标

Go achieve your goals.

我非常需要感谢一位老师

I really need to thank a teacher.

他是我在中大学习数学教育的时候的

He was my mathematics education teacher when I was studying at Zhongda University.

一位教授

A professor

他叫Oilam

His name is Oilam.

在大学期间

During university years

他很热情地

He is very enthusiastic.

和我们分享了很多

Shared a lot with us.

自己在不同国家的见闻

Experiences in Different Countries.

甚至他会在课堂上

He might even do it in class.

准备了很多多样化的课堂

Prepared many diverse classes.

和一些新穎的教学法

And some innovative teaching methods.

同时间

At the same time.

非常包容

Very inclusive.

当时对教育一知半解的我们

At that time, we had a limited understanding of education.

在疫情期间

During the pandemic.

我们第一次尝试

This is our first attempt.

网上实习的时候

During the online internship

其实很多我们在课堂学的教学技巧

In fact, many of the teaching techniques we learn in class...

根本就没有办法运用出来

There is simply no way to apply it.

同时间

Same time

那时候的老师要求我们

The teacher back then required us to...

教三个小时的网上课堂

Three hours of online class teaching.

令到我们其实

It makes us actually

根本没有办法控制课堂

There is no way to control the classroom at all.

甚至是一次很失败的实习体验

Even a very unsuccessful internship experience.

当完成了那一次的实习的时候

When the internship was completed that time.

我们都开始质疑自己的能力

We all start to question our abilities.

是不是不适合做一个老师呢

Isn't it unsuitable to be a teacher?

但是I-LAND非常之好

But I-LAND is very good.

它除了第一

It is second to none.

肯定了我们的努力之外

In addition to affirming our efforts.

它还会在解答我们的问题的时候

It will also address our questions when answering them.

通过询问的方式

By asking questions.

去带领我们去反思自己的方法

Go lead us to reflect on our own methods.

有什么问题

What question do you have?

有什么不足

What are the shortcomings?

去令到今时今日

To make it to today.

我们去教育学生的时候

When we go to educate students

都会不断反思自己的教学方式

Will continually reflect on their teaching methods.

也都愿意去尝试不同的方法

They are also willing to try different methods.

去教导学生

Go teach the students.

最后我就想分享

Finally, I would like to share.

一首歌给做了老师的各位同学

A song dedicated to all the classmates who became teachers.

和我曾经的老师

With my former teacher.

它就是

It is.

SEVENTEEN的

SEVENTEEN's

CHEERS TO YOUTH

CHEERS TO YOUTH

继续我们教学有心人

Continue our teaching with those who have a heart for it.

今天在开学第二个星期

Today is the second week of the new school term.

请来两位同学

Please bring two students.

分享一下一些优秀的心得

Share some excellent insights.

因为我另一个节目

Because of my other show.

之前在第二台

Previously on the second device.

逢星期六晚八点钟

Every Saturday at eight o'clock in the evening.

有一个训发室DSC

There is a training room DSC.

都做了几集

How many episodes have been made?

就是说

That is to say

我们香港学仔培育优秀

We Hong Kong students cultivate excellence.

譬如找一个林大辉中学

For example, find a Lin Dahui High School.

也找一个姓保乐的男女中学

Also find a co-educational secondary school with the surname Bao Le.

合掌团

Heshi Group

拿一些世界赛的冠军

Win some world championship titles.

其实我们培育了很多优秀的同学

In fact, we have nurtured many excellent students.

今天两位正好

Today, the two are just right.

早前南华早报有一个

Earlier, the South China Morning Post had a...

年度学生大奖

Annual Student Award

请来两位得主

Please invite the two winners.

分别在可持续发展领袖方面

In terms of sustainable development leaders.

读书在香港国际学校读的

Studied at an international school in Hong Kong.

潘明林

Pan Minglin

另外有来自姓保乐书院的

In addition, there are those from Baole Book Academy.

他在预言学习广东话方面

He is predicting the study of Cantonese.

得到冠军的

The champion.

就是欧阳俊轩

It is Ouyang Junxuan.

说到两位朋友

Speaking of the two friends.

今次在年度学生大奖当中获奖

This time, won an award at the annual student awards.

其实个别来说

In fact, individually speaking.

你们觉得

What do you think?

你们为什么会得奖

Why did you win the award?

我那个奖项里面

In my award.

其实就是希望去鼓励一些

Actually, it's just hoping to encourage some people.

有在社会上的朋友

Friends in society.

有帮助去推广语言的一些学生

Some students who are helpful in promoting the language.

之前有过很多得奖者

There have been many award winners before.

他们都是

They all are.

譬如会去教一些新移民

For example, I will teach some new immigrants.

也就是普通移民的本地语言

That is the local language of ordinary immigrants.

就是广东话

It's Cantonese.

在我的奖项里

In my awards.

但我就是不同一点的

But I'm just a little different.

我的推广语言的方法

My methods for promoting the language.

就是去在这个辩论上面

It's about participating in this debate.

去做不同的赛会工作

Go do different event-related work.

也都有在自己学校里面

They are all also in their own schools.

会去举行一些辩论的训练

Will hold some debate training sessions.

给一些初中的同学

Give it to some junior high school classmates.

其实我觉得辩论

Actually, I think debating...

好像你刚才在我们上一节也提及到

It seems that you mentioned it in our last session as well.

好处

Benefits

或者可能帮到年轻人的思考训练

Or it might help young people with their thinking training.

其实是一件好事

In fact, it is a good thing.

刚才我们也听得到

We could hear it just now too.

你现在在辩论会上

You are now at the debate meeting.

也是做工作人员

Also working as staff.

可不可以给你一些建议

Can I give you some advice?

譬如你现在也是推广

For example, you are also promoting now.

真的多做一些比赛

Really do more competitions.

因为有时候我们学校

Because sometimes our school

出辩论队

Debate team

可能一队都是只有

It may be that the entire team is only.

真的出来是三个

There are really three of them.

下面可能有些支持

There might be some support below.

也有几个

There are also a few.

但是其实位数也少的一队人

But actually, there is a team of people with fewer digits.

如果多一些比赛

If there are more competitions.

或者是分不同的级别

Or it is divided into different levels.

或者不同的组别

Or different groups.

可能又会多一些人受惠

It may benefit more people again.

你也可以想想

You can think about it too.

又或者全校辩论比赛

Or maybe the school-wide debate competition.

就是整间学校

It's the whole school.

譬如英华书院对圣保罗书院

For example, Yinghua College in relation to St. Paul's College.

然后抽一些同学出来

Then pull out some classmates.

职场抽

Workplace cigarettes

然后你们互相辩论

Then you debate each other.

这个也是其中一种

This is also one of them.

因为职场辩论

Because of workplace debate.

对

Yes

全间学校参与

All schools participate.

全间说两间学校要找一间学校

The whole school is saying that two schools need to find one school.

那你要普遍

Then you need to be general.

那可能要找一个大球场

Then we might need to find a big stadium.

不然大家都要预备

Otherwise, everyone has to prepare.

两间学校都够了

Both schools are enough.

用不着大球场

No need for a large stadium.

两间学校加起来很多人

The two schools together have many people.

好了

Alright.

跟潘泳林又谈一下

Talk to Pan Yonglin again.

在可持续方面得奖

Awarded for sustainability.

是因为什么

What is the reason?

因为可能你财雄势大

Because you might be wealthy and powerful.

开了一间公司

Opened a company.

所以被我奖你

So I reward you.

你觉得是因为什么

What do you think it is because of?

我猜其实可能是因为

I guess it might actually be because.

有很多不同的范畴

There are many different categories.

都有做过很多可持续发展的工作

They have all done a lot of work on sustainable development.

譬如我在联合国那边

For example, I am at the United Nations.

有做过很多的倡议

Have made many proposals.

但是我在香港本地

But I am local in Hong Kong.

我都有做一些关于

I have also done some work on...

就是垃圾怎么去处置的倡议

It is an initiative on how to dispose of garbage.

另外因为我自己也很喜欢画画

Additionally, because I also really enjoy painting.

我也有试下用艺术

I also tried to use art.

和可持续发展这两个topic

Sustainable development and these two topics.

去看看能不能联合在一起

Let's see if we can unite together.

去为这边可以做到贡献

Go and contribute what can be done here.

那真的得奖

That really deserves the award.

你只是说这三范都已经很厉害了

You just said that these three categories are already impressive.

很厉害

Very impressive.

但是怎么可以参加到联合国的东西

But how can one participate in things related to the United Nations?

我写信去给

I wrote a letter to...

以前安南写信给那些

In the past, Annan wrote letters to those...

安南很久了

It's been a long time, Annan.

我那个年代

My generation.

我参加了一个program

I participated in a program.

他就是在亚洲那边

He is over there in Asia.

去招揽一些青少年

Go recruit some teenagers.

我在那里就报名

I signed up there.

有幸就进到他的program

I was fortunate to get into his program.

之后我就再去认识联合国不同的部门

After that, I went on to learn about the different departments of the United Nations.

在那边真的sendemail

Really send an email over there.

cocall

cocall

看看有没有人有兴趣

Let's see if anyone is interested.

所以挺好

So it's quite good.

因为这个进取的心

Because of this enterprising spirit.

会不会和香港国际学校

Will it be with Hong Kong International School?

有关系呢

It matters.

因为可能给你们的讯息

Because it may give you information.

就是多一些主动一些

Just be a bit more proactive.

不要像我们

Don't be like us.

可能一般我们香港那些学校

Perhaps the schools in Hong Kong are generally like that.

就说不要了

Just say no more.

不要找我了

Don't look for me anymore.

你们不是这样

You are not like this.

你们找我 找我

You are looking for me, looking for me.

会不会的

Will it or not?

一定是

It must be.

我小时候是读一个比较local的学校

When I was young, I attended a more local school.

我和姓母没有内涵

I have no implications with my surname's mother.

但就不是另一间

But it's not another one.

我来到国际学校

I came to the international school.

就真的

Just really.

为什么人人都好像有一个东西

Why does it seem like everyone has something?

他是想制倡议的

He wants to propose an initiative.

为什么人人都是这么主动的

Why is everyone so proactive?

我都要找多一些倡议

I want to find more initiatives.

他说很多话

He said a lot.

我真的很inspire来到这里之后

I am really inspired after coming here.

学校也给了我很多空间

The school also gave me a lot of space.

我在这边做发展

I am developing over here.

刚才说垃圾有什么方法处理

What methods are there to deal with garbage?

我们主要是tackle市集的问题

We mainly tackle the issues of the market.

是因为香港的市集

It is because of the markets in Hong Kong.

现在很多临时的市集

Now there are many temporary markets.

市集就是街市

A market is just a street market.

夜宾分那些

Night guests are divided into those.

因为他们一天就有很多东西

Because they have a lot of things in one day.

第二天就全部要拆了

Everything will be taken down the next day.

从中就做了很多垃圾

A lot of garbage was made from it.

但是那些档主又不知道

But the stall owners don’t know that.

他怎么处置垃圾

How does he deal with the garbage?

我们现在就是在那边

We are now over there.

跟一些政府的人员

With some government personnel.

我经常跟那些property developer

I often talk to those property developers.

那些公司发展商

Those developers.

来看看他们可以怎么去

Let's see how they can go.

更好地处置垃圾

Better waste management.

那些是重用的

Those are reused.

因为我们按道理

Because we should theoretically

如果夜宾分那些是租那些

If the night guest separates those that are rented and those that are not.

一拉开整个那些

Once opened, everything will be revealed.

帐篷

Tent

帐篷按道理没有什么垃圾

There shouldn't be any trash in the tent.

有什么垃圾

What kind of garbage is there?

其实都多的

Actually, there are many.

最主要是他们那些decoration

The main thing is their decorations.

那些报纸那些

Those newspapers, those.

报纸那些

Those newspapers.

那就不准报纸

Then it's not allowed to report it in the newspaper.

那又没有

Then there isn't any.

有什么办法

Is there any way?

其实可以参考苗街

In fact, you can refer to Miao Street.

苗街都是朝堂晚拆

The苗 streets are all dismantled at dawn.

拆完之后就调转

After disassembly, just turn it around.

是晚行朝拆

It is evening that breaks the morning.

拆完之后

After dismantling

他第二天都是用同一套

He used the same outfit the next day.

他没什么扔的

He has nothing to throw away.

不过我想最大不同的地方

But I think the biggest difference is...

就是苗街那里

It's over there at Miao Street.

他可以持续这样做

He can continue to do this.

夜宾分是做很短时间

The night guest's stay is very short.

就真的没有了

That's really all there is.

可能就真的会产生很多不同的垃圾

It may really create a lot of different types of garbage.

刚才Deon说的那句话都挺有趣

What Deon just said was quite interesting.

很适合广东话的朋友

Very suitable for friends who speak Cantonese.

朝堂晚拆

The court is dismantled at dusk.

尤其是晚拆朝堂

Especially in the late dismantling of the court.

就是诸如此类

Just like this.

那会不会有时候

Could it be that sometimes...

在日常生活当中

In daily life.

欧阳俊谦

Ouyang Junqian

都会留意一下

I will pay attention to it.

我们的什么字音

What is our pronunciation?

又或者用那些成语

Or use those idioms.

譬如

For example

我立刻考考潘同学

I'll quiz classmate Pan right away.

因为他一定懂的

Because he must understand.

一定懂的

It must be understood.

所以考考他

So let's test him.

我们经常都说

We often say.

哎呀

Oh dear!

你这么惨

You are so unfortunate.

我真的

I really do.

A

A

感同身受

Empathy.

B

B

身同感受

Feel the same.

那是A还是B

Is that A or B?

要按键想答

You need to press a key to answer.

B

B

就是身同感受是不是

It's about experiencing it together, isn't it?

错

Wrong

哎呀

Oh dear.

现在问一下

Now, let me ask.

现在问一下广东话大师

Now let me ask a Cantonese master.

看他懂不懂

See if he understands.

应该是感同身受

It should be empathy.

感受嘛

Feelings.

是不是

Is it?

会不会

Will it or will it not?

譬如欧阳同学

For example, Classmate Ouyang.

有时候都会留意一下

Sometimes I pay attention.

因为这个是广东话

Because this is Cantonese.

你慢慢

You take your time.

我们虽然有时候就不是说

Sometimes we just don't say it.

要去到什么宋代的时候

What time in the Song Dynasty do you want to go to?

有什么音

What sound is there?

怎么翻写出来

How to rewrite it?

就是不是要追求到那些

It's just that it's not about pursuing those things.

但是你起码

But at least you...

都不要有些习非诚实

Do not have some bad habits of dishonesty.

譬如我最近

For example, I recently

江文伟

Jiang Wenwei

就是奪奖

It is about winning awards.

也都有个宣言出来

There is also a declaration.

那他呢

What about him?

就是有个回

It's just a comeback.

接着又考你了

Then I'll test you again.

潘同学

Student Pan

这次不考你

This time I'm not testing you.

这次欧阳同学

This time, classmate Ouyang.

看他懂不懂

See if he understands.

好了

Alright.

食字边

Radical related to food

一个平贵的贵

An ordinary贵.

那你怎么读呢

Then how do you read it?

欧阳俊轩

Ouyang Junxuan

会

Will

愧社会

Ashamed of society.

那又不正确了

That would not be correct.

真是的

Really!

要打赛了

It's time to compete.

是回归

It is a return.

回归

Return

是的

Yes.

或者回归

Or return.

都可以

Anything is fine.

就千万不要愧

Just never feel regret.

怎么记呢

How to remember it?

你不要惭愧

Don't feel ashamed.

你是回归社会

You are reintegrating into society.

为什么要惭愧呢

Why should one feel ashamed?

记住不要愧

Remember not to feel guilty.

好了

Alright.

就是说

That is to say.

在这方面

In this regard.

会不会说

Can you speak?

都有兴趣

Both are interested.

又或者

Or else

都希望大家

Hope everyone is well.

讲正音

Speak standard pronunciation.

又或者

Or maybe

那些词语

Those words

可以怎么用

How can it be used?

因为有时候

Because sometimes

这个文化

This culture.

就是源源流长

It is a continuous flow.

如果你不珍惜它

If you don't cherish it.

你会觉得

You will feel.

用什么汁这么正

What kind of sauce is this so good?

埃及就是埃及

Egypt is just Egypt.

一样的

The same.

喜烈

Joyful Flame

希腊

Greece

是的

Yes.

有时候

Sometimes

嘉宾如果有兴趣说

If the guest is interested, please speak up.

我都不烦了

I'm not annoyed anymore.

但是如果你作为我们主持人

But if you act as our host...

那我也说回希腊

Then I'll also talk about Greece.

是

Yes.

说回埃及

Talking about Egypt.

那

That

欧阳俊轩

Ouyang Junxuan

你怎么样

How are you?

我觉得

I think.

当时我去面试的时候

At that time when I went for the interview.

我分享了一些

I shared some.

我们广东话说的

What we say in Cantonese is

例如

For example

有一些

There are some.

就是很有趣

It's really interesting.

出了街的

Out on the street.

例如说

For example,

我现在碰到一样东西

I am currently encountering something.

我嗨到一样东西

I'm high on something.

就是这一些

It's just these.

是广东话上面

It's in Cantonese.

很微细的

very fine

是啊

Yes.

很精致

Very delicate.

但是意思是可以

But it means it is possible.

就是有很细的出入

There are very slight discrepancies.

但是有这个分别

But there is a difference.

就是等于

Just equal to.

我们有时候

Sometimes we

这样去比

Let's compare this way.

可能未必是很准确的

It may not be very accurate.

比如英文

For example, English.

可能你没有那么多

Maybe you don't have that much.

就是比如

For example.

立刻叫你

Call you immediately.

即时翻译

Instant translation

潘明林

Pan Minglin

炒煮炸炖焗炆

Stir-fry, boil, deep-fry, braise, bake, stew.

那你用英文

Then you use English.

是不是翻译不了

Is it that you can't translate it?

有些真的翻译不了

Some things really cannot be translated.

就是

That's it.

所以这些有时候

So sometimes these things...

不过每个语言

However, every language

有不同的特性

There are different characteristics.

总之

In short.

我们

We

如果喜欢我们广东话

If you like our Cantonese

或者喜欢广东的语言

Or prefer the language of Guangdong.

就希望大家都努力保留

I hope everyone will work hard to preserve it.

如果说到未来

Speaking of the future.

未来有没有说些什么

Is there anything to say about the future?

路向

Direction

除了说

Besides saying

刚才加拿辩论会之外

Just now outside the Canadian debate.

来自圣保罗书院的

From St. Paul's College.

欧阳俊轩

Ouyang Junxuan

中六应该不准搞事的路

Seniors in high school should not meddle in affairs.

未来其实应该是DSE的

The future should actually belong to DSE.

是不是

Is it?

未来一年

The coming year.

都是要专心

Everything requires focus.

去到大学那里

Go to the university.

除了辩论方面

Apart from the debate aspect

我更加是想去

I want to go even more.

尝试更多不同的东西

Try more different things.

因为始终去到大学

Because I eventually went to university.

会多很多的机会

There will be many more opportunities.

去尝试不同的东西

Try different things.

对比起中学

Compared to middle school

可能中学是真的要

It may be that middle school is really necessary.

放多点时间去读书

Spend more time reading.

但是上到大学

But upon entering university

更加想去

Want to go even more.

去增广见闻

To broaden one's knowledge and experience.

去认识多一点

Get to know a little more.

关于这个世界

About this world.

因为我本身是一个

Because I am someone who

好奇心比较强的一个人

A person with a strong curiosity.

是 认识多一点世界也是好的

Yes, getting to know more about the world is also good.

其实呢

Actually, well...

又这样看

Looking at it this way again.

你刚才说到

You just mentioned.

下年读DSE

Next year I will take the DSE.

要考试

Need to take an exam.

是不是真的考试

Is it really an exam?

就不可以做任何事情呢

Then you can't do anything, right?

我觉得在这个

I think in this.

考试的过程当中

During the exam process

平时的考试

Regular exams.

可能大家觉得

Perhaps everyone thinks that.

一个关口

A checkpoint.

一个去检查进度的东西

A thing to check the progress.

你会心态上

Your mindset will...

你会觉得是

You will feel it is.

就是轻松一点的

It's just a bit more relaxed.

那你可能在温书以外

Then you might be outside of studying.

你会愿意分配多一点的时间

Would you be willing to allocate a bit more time?

去做其他不同的东西

Go do other different things.

然后到DSE我觉得

Then I think about DSE.

可以说是人生

It can be said that it is life.

暂时来说

For the time being

我将会遇到最大的关口了

I will soon face the biggest challenge.

都是跟你

It's all about you.

但是因为

But because

你会觉得这个东西是

You will find this thing to be.

奠定你未来会发生

Establish what will happen in your future.

大部分的事情

Most things.

所以大部分的学生

So the majority of the students

他的心态就会说

His mindset would say.

我不可以让自己休息

I cannot allow myself to rest.

我一定要其他什么都不做

I must make sure not to do anything else.

不断去运输

Continuously transport.

但是其实这个是不是真的说

But is this really said?

你什么都不做

You do nothing.

就一定会考得好

You will definitely do well on the exam.

你一做了其他东西

Once you do other things.

就会令到你考试

It will make you take an exam.

会考出来的成绩不理想

The results of the exam were not satisfactory.

我觉得是未必的

I think it's not necessarily the case.

我曾经和很多状元

I have once been with many top scholars.

都分享谈论的

All shared discussions.

当然是在那个时间

Of course, it's at that time.

就要集中一些精力

Just need to focus some energy.

但是你说不休息

But you said you wouldn't take a break.

那当然不行了

That's definitely not possible.

一定要有休息的时间

It is essential to have time for rest.

还有有时候

Sometimes there are also...

当自己温书温到差不多

When you have almost finished reviewing your notes.

有很多状元都是

Many top scholars are...

就做回自己喜欢做的东西

Just do what you like to do.

喜欢音乐的

Lovers of music.

弹一下琴

Play the piano.

喜欢打球的

Likes to play ball.

下去打一会

Go down and play for a while.

也是令到自己脑筋保存

It also helps to keep my mind sharp.

很清醒的

Very sober.

已经提到DSE考试

The DSE exam has already been mentioned.

我想潘明林就笑眉眉了

I think Pan Minglin just smiled at Mei Mei.

我们不用考

We don't need to take the exam.

我读十二班

I am in the twelfth grade.

是不是

Is it?

是

Yes

在考试压力方面

In terms of exam pressure

会不会真的你自己感受到

Will you really feel it yourself?

因为可能身边都有其他同学

Because there may be other classmates around.

或者朋友是读DSE的

Or a friend is taking the DSE.

你就会觉得他们做什么

You will feel that whatever they do.

你们这么辛苦

You are working so hard.

你是否会觉得自己没有什么考试压力

Do you feel that you have no exam pressure?

其实我们都有考试压力的

In fact, we all have exam pressure.

但是因为我就是读美国制学校

But because I attend an American school.

我们的考试压力就是不同

Our exam pressure is just different.

因为我们不是一个史去断定人生

Because we are not a history to determine life.

我们是有很多的细史

We have a lot of detailed history.

因为我们是看

Because we are watching.

每一次在学校考试的成绩

Every time the grades from the school exams.

去组织最后的成果

Go organize the final results.

但是这个有好有不好的

But this has its pros and cons.

有好有不好

There are good things and bad things.

因为你经常都要持续去监察

Because you often need to continuously monitor.

我宁愿一次过

I would rather do it all at once.

搞定了

Sorted out.

是吧

Is that so?

欧阳俊天做庄园就搞定了

Ouyang Jun Tian has taken care of the manor.

真的有好有不好

There are really good and bad things.

你读国际学校

You attend an international school.

你读的那个就是AP课程

The one you are reading is the AP course.

即美国课程

The American curriculum

介绍给我们听众听听

Introduce it to our audience.

什么叫AP

What does AP mean?

AP其实它英文翻译就是Advanced Placement

AP is actually translated into English as Advanced Placement.

为什么这样叫呢

Why is it called that?

就是因为我们的学校里面

It's precisely because of our school.

那些课程有分很多不同的种类

Those courses are divided into many different types.

第一就是on level

The first is on level.

意思是正常的课程

It means regular classes.

就是honours

It's just honours.

就是再难一点

It's just a little harder.

AP就是高等一点

AP is just a bit more advanced.

就是大学水准的课程

It's a college-level course.

我们在学校就可以选

We can choose at school.

应该想要哪一个难度

Which level of difficulty should we choose?

那你要读多少课

How many classes do you want to take?

读应该八课左右

It should take about eight lessons to read.

读八课

Read Lesson Eight

许多

Many

是

Yes.

但考试就是学校自定格的考试

But the exam is the one set by the school.

最后就会有一个叫做AP试

In the end, there will be a test called the AP test.

如果你要读的AP课程

If the AP course you want to take

则是跟大家一起考一个公开试

It will be an open exam taken together with everyone.

全世界读AP试的人都是考试的

Students all over the world taking the AP exam are all exam-takers.

所以各有各难

So everyone has their own difficulties.

刚才提到课题

Just mentioned the topic.

虽然Deon就反问欧阳俊天

Although Deon retorted to Ouyang Jun Tian.

是不是去到中六什么都不求

Is it that by the time you reach year 12, you seek nothing?

一般校长都是这么说的

This is usually what principals say.

真的 有時候不是同學想的

Really, sometimes it's not what the classmates think.

我不是的

I am not.

你不是 很多都是

You are not, most of them are.

譬如香港國際學校會不會說12班 13班

For example, will Hong Kong International Schools refer to 12th grade and 13th grade?

怎樣就不要搞那麼多事

Why not stop complicating things?

CEO找人頂住

The CEO is looking for someone to take the pressure.

會不會這樣

Will it be like this?

暫停公司運作

Suspend company operations.

其實也會有一點

Actually, there will be a little bit.

因為我們現在是報大學期間

Because we are currently in the college application period.

我們是第一個學期去報大學

We are going to enroll in university in the first semester.

所以很多人第一個學期會什麼都不做

So many people won't do anything during their first semester.

就真的只是報大學就寫文

It's really just about writing an essay for university applications.

因為報美國要寫很多文

Because reporting to the United States requires writing a lot of documents.

是

Yes.

但是第二個學期就應該會全部入大學

But by the second semester, they should all enter university.

所以就會輕鬆很多

So it will be much easier.

所以每個人都有不同的發展

So everyone has different development.

希望我們面前兩位同學

I hope the two classmates in front of us.

未來更加優秀

Future will be even better.

今天節目時間差不多

Today's program time is about up.

我們說聲拜拜

Let's say goodbye.

拜拜

Goodbye

大家說說這個火箭

Everyone talk about this rocket.

中國航天科技集團官方的微信指出

The official WeChat account of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation pointed out

早前試驗就在酒泉衛星發射中心進行

The earlier test was conducted at the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center.

3.8米直徑的新技術驗證箭

3.8-meter diameter new technology verification arrow

樹立在長屏發射台上

Erected on the long launch platform.

三台變推液氧甲鉛發動機

Three-stage variable thrust liquid oxygen kerosene engine

就開始點火

Let's start the ignition.

噴出藍色的尾煙

Ejecting blue exhaust smoke.

箭體上升到差不多12公分

The arrow body rises to about 12 centimeters.

公里的高度

Kilometer height

中心的發動機調節推力

The engine at the center regulates thrust.

火箭受控下降

The rocket is descending under control.

在距離地面50米左右

About 50 meters above the ground.

四條雀鹿腿就展開

The four deer legs were spread out.

隨即火箭慢慢下降

The rocket slowly descends.

高度趨近於零的時候

When the height approaches zero.

穩穩落在回收長屏中

Gently landing in the recycling long screen.

實現了定點垂直軟雀鹿

Achieved fixed-point vertical soft deer.

試驗全程歷時6分鐘

The entire test lasted 6 minutes.

火箭經歷了

The rocket experienced.

加速上升、減速上升、加速下降、減速下降、緩慢下降等5個階段

Five stages: accelerated ascent, decelerated ascent, accelerated descent, decelerated descent, and slow descent.

就是深度變推液氧甲鉛發動機在10公里返回飛行中的首次應用

This is the first application of the deep-thrust variable-push liquid oxygen-kerosene engine in a return flight at 10 kilometers.

新技術有助於提升火箭的運載效率

New technology helps improve the payload efficiency of rockets.

而降低了進出太空的經濟成本

And reduced the economic cost of entering and exiting space.

現時內地的航天發展相當快速

The current development of aerospace in mainland China is quite rapid.

我估計真係好快

I estimate it will be very fast.

我們就可以上太空去旅行

We can travel to space.

下次就說我飛去月球啦

Next time just say I'm flying to the moon!

拜拜 下次見

Goodbye, see you next time.

教育關注點

Educational focus points

剛剛聽過國情專頁都提到

I just heard that the national situation page also mentioned.

有些重用火箭

Some reusable rockets.

我們以前就說到火箭飛了上天

We talked before about the rocket flying into the sky.

然後下來就已經是不可以再用的

Then it can no longer be used.

幾乎要搜索楊立偉

Almost need to search for Yang Liwei.

最早中國太空人

The earliest Chinese astronaut.

現在就說有些新科技啦

Let's talk about some new technologies now.

我們經常都會接觸外國的手褲

We often come into contact with foreign pants.

X 那些研究就很厲害了

Those studies are really impressive.

火箭又可以重用

The rocket can be reused again.

其實我們中國都有這些科技

In fact, we in China have all these technologies.

不過說到香港

However, speaking of Hong Kong

就經常在學界當中就說水火箭

They often talk about water rockets in academia.

我記得我們讀書的年代就沒有什麼這些

I remember that during our school days, there wasn't much of this.

最多是接紙飛機

At most, it's about catching paper airplanes.

其實紙飛機都是一個很高深的學問

In fact, paper airplanes are a very profound subject.

高深

Profound

但是水火箭其實可以這樣說啦

But it can actually be said that the water rocket is like this.

在學界裏面都很高深的學問啊

It is a very profound knowledge in academia.

很常見

Very common.

以前我們經常說在中學

In the past, we often talked about it in middle school.

特別是在這個中學科學科

Especially in this middle school science subject.

即是我們IS這科

That is, our IS course.

都一定會有學習到的

There will definitely be something to learn.

還有學生都真的要親手

There are still students who really need to do it by hand.

自己下手分組去做這個水火箭

Divide into groups and do this water rocket by ourselves.

還有試射的時間

There is still time for test firing.

這些是不是都是跟科技科目

Aren't these all related to technology subjects?

STEM 或者 STEAM 都有關的

Related to STEM or STEAM.

現在當然有 STEAM 這個科目

Now there is of course the subject of STEAM.

但是以前我們整個歸納

But in the past, we summarized everything.

通常都是在科學科那裏做的

It's usually done in the science class.

為什麼呢

Why is that?

真的跟科學很有原理的

It's really based on scientific principles.

這個火箭是不是

Is this rocket?

我們說的是一些作用力和反作用力

We are talking about some action and reaction forces.

我們又說的是這個火箭的設計形狀

We are talking about the design shape of this rocket again.

怎樣讓它飛得更高 飛得更遠 飛得更好

How to make it fly higher, fly further, and fly better.

又說的是穩定性 很多很多

It also talks a lot about stability.

那些載水量又如何

What about their water-carrying capacity?

那些尾翼又怎樣設計

How are those tail fins designed?

這些全部都是科學東西

These are all scientific things.

所以開學期間有時做這些活動

So sometimes these activities are done during the school term.

都可能令到學生身心愉快一點

All these can make students feel a little happier both physically and mentally.

譬如除了水火箭之外

For example, apart from water rockets.

我還留意到

I also noticed.

就是經常要扔彈到街上

It often requires throwing bombs onto the street.

扔彈到街上要不碎

Throwing a bomb on the street must not break.

即是又弄一些降落傘 又弄一些保護膜

That is to make some parachutes and also some protective film.

這樣就令到彈不碎

This prevents it from breaking.

這個也是學校常做的實驗

This is also an experiment that schools often conduct.

是的 其實都是一樣

Yes, it's actually all the same.

大家說 STEAM 其實很久以前

Everyone says that STEAM has actually been around for a long time.

我們已經有這個種子種在這裏

We have already planted this seed here.

基本上你說扔彈到街上

Basically, you said to throw a bomb onto the street.

又不是整隻彈扔的

It's not like throwing the whole thing away.

就這樣說 做降落傘

Just say it, make a parachute.

有限的材料底下

Under limited materials.

怎樣能夠將彈海由高處

How can the waves of bullets be launched from a high place?

很穩定地降落 又不會破壞呢

Landing very stably without causing damage.

這個學問來的

This knowledge comes from.

Dion 你自己有沒有試過

Dion, have you tried it yourself?

或是想過 或是做過

Either thought about it or done it.

以上的水火箭 或是保護彈的什麼方法呢

What methods are there for the above water rocket or protective bullets?

一定有啦

There must be!

水火箭 通常都是用汽水瓶

Water rockets are usually made from soda bottles.

然後搞搞火箭的頭

Then work on the rocket's head.

怎樣能夠尖一點 圓一點

How can it be sharper and rounder?

令到它的左風比較小一點

Make its left wind a little smaller.

這個也會當時跟同學一起設計

This will also be designed together with classmates at that time.

但是你說

But you said

你說扔彈這件事其實挺好玩的

You said that throwing bombs is actually quite fun.

當時老師

At that time, the teacher.

很有趣 我記得我那個課的老師

Very interesting, I remember my teacher from that class.

沒有給任何的指引

Did not provide any guidance.

總之告訴你

In short, I'll tell you.

我在五樓放彈彈在地上

I am bouncing a ball on the floor on the fifth floor.

你一定要安全

You must be safe.

大家有些降落傘

Everyone has some parachutes.

有些我們就以為很聰明

Some things we just think we're very clever.

又包廁紙 又包報紙

Wrapping toilet paper and wrapping newspaper.

最後都是成地彈

In the end, it's all about becoming a hit.

我就想一個方法

I just want a way.

先弄熟它

Get familiar with it first.

弄熟它

Get it熟知.

不然起碼爆到爛掉

Otherwise, at least blow it up until it's ruined.

今天的節目時間差不多

Today's program is almost over.

多謝Dion

Thank you, Dion.

我們說聲拜拜

We say goodbye.

拜拜

Goodbye