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pop spotting 96 san diego comic-con 2011 audio from the entertainment weekly lost panel

okay um thank you for coming uh my name is chad

nope

before we go any further with our technical malfunctions and um uh the you know self-involved

hijinks that are about to ensue um i just want to say that um thank you very much sincerely for

for coming here and um and uh and yeah thank you for for bringing absolutely we know that you have

a lot of choices

and i think it's safe to say you've chosen poorly

there's a lot of other options that you could be doing right now

um you could you could be at the amazing spider-man panel right now

wow you know there's still time to get away

um there there is another or that one yeah there there's a panel called

the boy who loves uh batman

it's a little creepy

you could also be at live sketching

with stanley art germ loud

okay we're better than that one right

no i don't know i mean i i was there at the planning meeting this morning so i i think

this guy could do something okay cool um listen

about this panel you know i know that we said that there were going to be surprise guests

the big surprise that we had happening is that there's a new Disney and disney uh comic

ываем faction okay disney fans if this one's picked up okay so this one's been pulled over

for a couple years but and there's bells on that one right now at least we haven't even

seen that or any one from that one of the.....

that's gonna be the park show that's gonna be divided because it's gonna be open at six p.m.

The big surprise that we had in store for you today was that we were going to reunite the entire council.

And that's when this fight was done.

They kind of dropped out one by one.

I'm kind of all the way. He was the first one to go, and then Boss Bale.

This is serious, by the way. We're actually going to blow your minds in this room.

Just have them all here, and there are going to be autograph sessions, reunite scenes.

And then, yep, we started getting people bailed out, and then what was the...

The last person to bail out was, he was on his honeymoon, Doug Hutchins.

So Plan B.

Plan B is this.

Yes, Dan, you know we used to do a little funny little show on the cult of the boss.

Tens of people enjoyed it. Tens of people.

And you used to do this thing with me where you would always give me gifts.

That's cool.

And remember that?

And you would always give me, one time you gave me a sunflower.

Well, that was a little cool recap. Totally threw that out.

And I totally threw it away. I was down a sunflower.

And one time you gave me Sterling Bowman.

Hey, you know, when you care to send the very best,

you give them anything.

I never really reciprocated. I never really gave you any gifts.

Actually, you can never thank me for anything, to be honest with you.

I'm just in love with thanking people.

Gift giving is just not my love language.

I want to make it up to you today. I have a gift.

That's a good read.

Wait, you seriously have a gift?

Yeah.

Okay.

Are you on the Twitter?

I've seen it.

Do you happen to know...

You know...

David Lindelof, like, tweets a lot these days.

I don't know if you've noticed that.

I have picked up on that.

And Carlton, by the way, not a big tweeter.

He's more like the J.D. Salinger in tweeting.

If Carlton is the J.D. Salinger, then David is the Joyce Carolos.

Who's Joyce Carolos?

There!

Yeah, books are dogs.

They've been...

And they've been fighting lately, over the past 48 hours,

over...

For something called the Marble Ride.

Have you been following this?

Yes, I'm a Jew.

I'm very interested in the Marble Ride, you know?

I have no sense.

I have the Marble Ride.

Now, I have a source deep within the lost life infrastructure,

whatever it is, and his name rhymes with, you know, Matthew Fox.

And he slipped me this.

I was really curious about it.

What is the Marble Ride?

And, you know, like, I kept thinking, my Doc Jensen brain was kind of on fire,

and was kind of thinking about this, and I was suddenly recalling that,

you know how they used to, like, give code names to, like,

the season finale scenes of Marvel?

Yeah, like Frozen Donkey Wheel, and the rattlesnake, and the...

Right, yeah, sure.

And there was one called The Bagel, and then there was the Hala,

and whatever.

So, the Marble Ride must be the secret game.

It seems like they've been fighting over this scene from...

Whatever, and so, this is it.

This must be it, is it not?

So, this is the gift I want to give you.

I want to give you this gift, and I think that we should show it.

Yeah.

Pass.

Wait.

Pass.

You know what?

Some of these things are just better up here than here.

I just, I don't know.

I'm not comfortable.

I...

They would have shown it to us if they wanted to show it to us.

I'm not in.

I think that you are choosing poorly.

I mean, like, if you're a serious Lost academic,

and a serious Lost fan,

and in the spirit of sort of, you know,

excavating every little thing about Lost,

and wanting to understand everything there is to know about Lost,

I think that you need to see this.

You need to watch this.

You need to share it with everyone.

Yeah.

Show the desk.

Okay, okay, but you owe me big.

No.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Sorry.

No, no, no.

We're not drawing that.

Uh, we are...

Is that really?

Yeah.

There it is.

I knew I had to show up here.

I mean, I took some extreme measures,

but this is a travesty.

That scene was never meant to be seen.

It was not meant to be shown.

Yes, we did shoot a scene very early in the series

that was of great significance

and answered certain questions,

but no.

I mean, and I've been arguing with David about this on Twitter,

and I knew that, you know,

this is where it was going to happen,

so how was I going to get in?

How was I going to get in here

without being, you know,

causing a stir?

It took a little bit of extreme mood,

but that's it.

It's really hard to break,

but definitely I can run.

So, like...

Let it be said...

The time has come

to show

this scene.

Yeah!

All right.

One more.

All right.

David.

All right.

Oh, my gosh, Ron.

I'm so jealous.

David.

So, the problem is...

Okay, so...

We'll explain to you what...

Wow, that's nice.

I like that.

We're going to have to do it

for the rest of the book, that's it.

We're going to be able to sit down.

We're supposed to be fighting right now, so...

Yeah.

It's hard to do a lot of things

as a starthrooper.

That's going to be the top of my elevator.

Okay, so, here's what happened.

So, basically, in the first season

of the show,

we, you know,

we had actually planned out

a lot of mythology of Lost,

and so we wrote a scene

which included a lot of the mythology

playing forward,

but when you actually watch that scene,

you know, it kind of gives away,

like, a lot of what's happening

in the next few seasons of the show.

And so, we cut it at the time,

and I think we made the right choice.

And I think that we might have made

the right choice at the time,

but I don't know about you,

but sort of since the show ended,

you kind of promised me

that the whole,

were you making it up

as you go along question was stopped.

And it's only intensified.

And so, I've been saying to you,

we have concrete evidence.

We have proof.

We have the smoking gun.

We have the marble drive.

We have the...

We can show them a scene

that we shot clearly and specifically

in the season one finale

that telegraphs everything

that's going to happen

in the entire series,

and the question will go away forever.

And yet, you do not want to show it.

No, because I feel like

the integrity of the show

will be violated.

We made the show.

We made the show

that we wanted to make.

I mean, really, do we...

Since when did you care

about the integrity of the show?

Look at him.

There he is.

This is exactly about

my commitment to the show.

I thought I was going to suffocate

before I came up here.

I couldn't breathe in that thing.

I was, like, all fogged up.

I was afraid I was going to, like,

land in that gentleman's lap over there.

Let's be honest.

Loss was really just an excuse

for us to dress...

Hey, guys, guys, guys.

Okay, Jeff, yeah.

Sorry, are we interrupting?

This is our thing.

I think that the only way

to really settle this thing is,

you know, loss belongs to all of us now,

not just you guys.

Yeah.

I think the audience needs to decide.

Do we want to see this video?

Yeah.

Who mostly did we just not see at all?

Thank you.

Thank you, Mom.

Well, all right.

Well, I guess I lose.

You're the better wrestler,

so let's show the Marvel drive.

Okay.

Let's show the Marvel drive.

Woo!

Ooh!

You might never going to hear it, though.

One reason not to show it.

I don't want to wake up

with our memories erased.

Exactly.

We're all like,

I'm sorry.

Okay, I think Carlton was right.

I think I rest my case.

That's a lot of color bar.

No, no, Jeff, I want to hear your take on this.

I said three seconds of color bar.

I'm hearing about this.

We're going to die before this color bar is over.

Oh, now I understand the idea.

I can't imagine that there was actually this much color bar.

Yeah.

We're now entering into the phase of...

And there went the scene.

Everybody close your eyes.

Look away from the screen.

There we go.

Someone's getting fired.

We have a technician from here.

Here we go.

Woo!

Do you really think all this is an accident?

That we, a group of strangers, survived?

Many of us were just superficial injuries?

Do you think we crashed on this place by coincidence?

Especially this place?

We were brought here for a purpose, for a reason.

All of us.

Each one of us was brought here for a reason.

Right here.

And you brought us here, Jeff.

Yeah.

The doctor has no idea, does he?

Why is he so afraid?

Where's that path enter?

The path ends at the hatch.

The hatch, Jack.

All that happens to the lead on the map.

Now, we're going to put a new hatch so that we can survive.

They find that Scottish guy down there pushing a button.

He's gonna be pissed.

You owe me a lot of trouble.

Oh, okay. Like, say, more trouble than getting turned into black smoke?

That takes on the form of dead people.

Okay, do you really need to get over that?

Yes, I do.

You just don't know it yet.

Don't call me a monster, Jacob.

Me?

I'm a monster. Get it?

All because you

threw me down into some underground river of shiny magic light.

Shiny magic light is very important.

It happens to be the source of

You and your light.

Okay, Jacob? And I swear to God,

if you start with any of that whole

the island is a cork thing,

I will go nuts.

Okay, well, we'll see how happy

these people are of you explaining their

their whole reason for being here with a metaphor.

You think they'll be disappointed?

I don't know the answers, Jacob.

I'm corks.

Well, maybe they'll give me the benefit of the doubt

once they start jumping around in time.

It always helps things make more sense.

It's like picking six candidates

to replace you because you're sick of being in charge

and you know that I'll inevitably

disguise myself as candidate number four

so I can manipulate their minds into killing you.

Does that make any sense?

I don't know what you're talking about.

Do not.

Do not. Do not.

It's infinity.

You know what?

You've got a bad attitude, Barry.

Hey!

You've got a bad attitude.

We are involved, yes?

Isn't that a relief, Carlton?

Okay, so they're here.

It's real.

We wanted to thank you guys for coming,

and we know you have a lot of questions for Damon and Carlton.

You're going to be able to ask away,

and it was really cool of them to join us.

So if you have a question, you can line up at the mic,

and we'll see what happens.

And we're going to start it off, though, by asking a few questions.

And I guess the first question, guys, is, you know,

tell us a little bit about the video.

When did this come about?

Well, a few weeks ago, when we basically,

when Dan and Jeff approached us about the possibility of making an appearance here,

we sort of felt like we wanted to do something special to Comic-Con,

as we always did.

And so we came up with this idea of doing this video,

and we contacted Mark Pellegrino and Titus Wellenberg,

and then Jack Bender directed it.

And all of a sudden,

we found ourselves on the back of the Disney lot

in this tiny little patch of woods,

kind of behind where they usually shoot Brothers and Sisters.

And here we were shooting the Lost scenes about three weeks ago,

and that was really weird.

But that was how it came about,

and we made it just for you guys.

I think what everyone's wondering right now is,

got any other scenes?

Well, there are a few scenes that fell out of the show for various reasons,

all of which are on the DVD,

with the exception of one flashback story from the beginning of the second season,

which is a Sawyer flashback story in the episode of Drift,

which ended up being subbed out for a Michael flashback story.

But that's really the only remaining piece of material that has kind of not been out there.

So we had to...

We tested on something for the next totally lost panel, I guess,

but we manufactured this instead.

You just keep talking.

It really sounded like a good idea at the time.

So I just want to set the record straight.

You guys really smoked.

I don't know.

There's a lot of things that I don't know how you do if you're a stormtrooper.

Ask the question.

So just to set the record straight,

you guys actually blowed each other, right?

Yes, that is correct.

So the feud, what's changed?

The feud is still ongoing.

The feud is ongoing.

No, it was a complete and utter farce.

It was funny because we started doing it just a couple days ago,

and we just felt that everybody who watches the show

would clearly know that there were shenanigans,

but there were a lot of people who were sort of,

should we be taking this seriously?

It feels like body and body are fighting.

And that's...

We've always talked about,

and that's particularly one of the greatest things about the con

is that there's just a certain degree of,

hey, we're all in on the joke,

but it's still fun to sort of create a false reality for you guys,

and I really cannot believe what the fuck is happening to me.

It's just, we're not putting on our jeans.

I really didn't, we didn't think through this part.

That's not the first time we said that either.

One question we wanted to ask was...

It's working.

One question we wanted to ask was,

now that you've had some distance from the show

and moved on to other things,

as you look back now,

is there one thing,

one thing that you wish you could try again

or tackle in a different way

or have more time to do this?

Is there one thing looking across the run of the series

that still intrigues you?

In hindsight,

and I think that we've talked about this before,

when Carlton and I and the writers started talking about

wanting the show to end,

we were always feeling that

it was probably going to be more like five seasons

in an episode.

But that was something that we had no control over.

And at the time that we were having those conversations,

everyone in our lives was telling us,

they're never going to let you in the show, period.

And so, the idea of what would have lost,

what would lost have looked like

maybe sort of 20 episodes shorter.

And then you go, well, what 20 episodes go away?

It doesn't work that way.

It's more like, you just don't have to stretch out

the story as much.

And things that we've sort of talked about ad nauseum,

like locking the characters up in cages

at the beginning of season three,

it just, it just,

affected the pacing.

So, but it happened exactly the way that it happened.

And those episodes kind of needed to happen

in order to get an end date.

So, you can't really deny them

their sort of presence in the lexicon.

You know, we've heard multiple times

since the show has ended,

a lot of people now are coming to the show

for the first time.

They're watching it on DVD

or they get it on Netflix.

And when you watch,

when you watch it from beginning to end,

the idea of sort of seasons kind of goes away.

And all you, all that's left is,

it's a story.

So, maybe it went on a little bit too long,

but, you know,

I couldn't tell you which episodes

I wish didn't exist.

Let's still get rid of the

Jack and his Tattoo episode.

But then we'd have nothing to bet you about.

Well, we'd have stuff.

Sure.

All right, three,

three things,

three housekeeping things.

We really do want this time

to be a question for you guys.

So, we definitely want a lot of questions.

For these guys,

to entice you to the mic,

I don't think it'd be much enticing.

There's a long line.

If you come to ask a question,

we have a poster for you.

Can we see this poster?

Do we have posters?

More color bars?

Color bars?

Posters will serve us.

Why don't you talk about how they make them?

I think you have a better,

I think I'm just going to see the posters.

Lee,

one of the things about this fan community of which you are a part

and of which we are enormously just grateful to have

is that we are really interested in what you guys think about the show,

even though it's been over for a year.

And these things sort of filter over to us,

whether it's fan fiction or art that you're doing

or tattoos that you're putting on your body for the rest of your life.

It's enormously flattering and amazing.

And we,

we saw this piece of art online,

and then there was this very sort of compelling and emotional story behind it.

And this was,

this was created by a gentleman named JJ Harrison.

And he had a YouTube.

JJ's here.

JJ,

do you want to wave?

JJ,

where are you?

JJ's here.

He's in the back there.

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you,

Joe.

This,

through a series of perhaps

early curse numbers-esque horrible things happening in his house,

including the complete destruction of his plumbing system

and mechanical difficulties with his car,

he was not going to be able to take his family to Comic-Con this year.

So we bought all these posters to give to you guys

so that they could be here.

And so...

With any one of these posters, it's love from JJ for the show and making them, and our love back to all of you for carrying the torch, because it's just amazing that, you know, I kind of like a room like, Hall H is nice, but this is much more, and I can actually see everybody's face, and I'm just so grateful for you guys being here.

I know you still have a couple more housekeeping things, but before we do remiss in not thanking everybody at the John Bernstein, and I know in this group, the DVD people, all the people who helped make that film.

And Rosalie and everyone at ABC for allowing us to make that, so that was great.

And of course, thank you so much for that. Everybody did this for me, so thank you guys.

One more time before we wrap up.

Okay, so first question, and now if you guys have questions, I'll give you a question.

First of all, thank you so much for Lost.

It was such a great ride, and I love the finale.

I fell in love with Lost, the episode where Rose and Charlie said they are a father together.

I'm going to cry thinking about it.

It was the first of many times I cried watching the show.

And one of my students said,

the next day, can they do that?

And the spirituality, the unembarrassed spirituality of the show, that was extraordinary.

Did you hear any blowback ones from the network on that?

Was there anybody trying to say, you know, that's not what you do?

No, actually not.

I mean, that was kind of one of the great things.

First of all, just in general, how supportive ABC was,

given all the crazy things we did on there.

And I think we tried very hard, particularly in the finale,

when we showed that stained glass, which had religious symbols from all sorts of different types of faith,

to say that we were kind of more interested in a statement that was spiritual,

as opposed to a statement that was specific to any one religion.

And I think, you know, as long as they didn't have the perception,

and we were not trying to cross the ties for any particular faith.

I mean, I'm Catholic, Amy's Jewish, and, you know, there's different writers on our staff.

I had various different...

Religious beliefs.

You know, we were interested more in kind of evoking sort of a larger sort of spiritual feeling,

and kind of how we're all connected spiritually, not based on one specific religion.

Thanks.

Poster.

We got a poster.

Lots of questions, so I can get a poster.

Thank you very much.

Thanks.

Okay.

I'm also someone who...

This is the only reason I come to the Comic-Con.

The only reason.

My husband's been coming for 10 years.

I think I'm not the only one.

Okay.

There's a few people in here who only come because of Lost,

and so thank you for that, for giving me something to do here.

It's like costume watching.

I get to finally come and get excited about something.

Okay.

So, I'm sure like many, I have a million questions, so I've narrowed it down to one.

Ben and Widmore.

Okay, so they meet in Widmore's fancy family.

And Widmore is sleeping, you know, and he wakes up.

And Ben then says...

One of them says to the other,

I wish I could cry.

So, one of them says to the other,

I wish I could kill you, or something like that.

Why couldn't Widmore and Ben kill each other?

This is going to feel like a dodge, and then it's going to morph into something slightly more specific,

which is questions that start with, why can't?

You know, the ultimate answer is, because they don't.

And it really doesn't work.

And in explaining, you know, what the insular rules of the show were, one of the things that we really wanted to do is that when we talked about the island, and whenever we talked about rules, there seemed to be rules that the man in black had to follow, or the smoke monster had to follow, or that Ben or Widmore had to follow.

But when we started talking about these rules, then the construct becomes, like, well, what happens if you break these rules? And it kind of got into the more meta-interesting thing for us in terms of just society, which is, these laws exist, but there's really nothing stopping you from breaking them.

Like, you know, other than sort of your own moral code. And so the real question that you're asking is, what would have happened if Widmore had killed Ben? And the answer is, a very large mushroom cloud. I'm a gun, sure.

No.

We can't answer it because he didn't. He believed that he couldn't, and sometimes believing that you can't do something is enough.

Perfect answer.

Thank you.

Hi. It's really good to see you guys together again. I miss your podcast.

Yeah.

My question is...

Are you talking to Dan and Jeff?

I miss them, too.

My question is simple, sort of. I just want to know, who was in the other Outrigger in season 5?

Where's Alan Steffenwald?

There you go, yeah.

There's Alan.

You didn't disappoint.

I mean, you know, one of the things that we've avoided doing, and I think that we will continue to do, is to not sort of be filling in the missing blanks.

Sort of, outriggers.

after the show is over

we don't want to be in a position

of sort of answering questions

that answer the unanswered questions

there are unanswered questions in the show

there are unanswered questions in life

no one gives us a complete

rule book about how we get through the world

we do the best we can

and I think that

the show, I think the same is true

there is no time

to show up

with a neat bow on top of it

I think we did the best we could

and answered the questions that we wanted to answer

and I think that some of those things

but also we felt like

if somebody says well the answer to the question

about the outrigger can be heard if you go to

YouTube and you see Damon and Carlton

or at Comic Con in 2011

but that wasn't fair either

that they were like scattered like

horcruxes across the

the pop culture universe

so you know

anything else you want to know?

but you can get a poster

we will

I completely agree with everything that Carlton just said

and I just want to add that

we talked on multiple occasions about

about the answer to that question

and we know the answer to that question

and we purposefully withheld it

and maybe that's frustrating

but for us it was kind of like the Russians and the Sopranos

sort of like

after answering

at that point in the game we'd answer so many questions

and some of the response

we were getting to those answers was

blech

we're basically like okay

the outrigger one is just going to stay unchecked

so sorry

very good segue to my question

I think in the last 25 years

the two most iconic shows were Sopranos and Lost

and they had a lot of feedback

from their finale as well

did you guys mull that over a lot

or did you kind of expect no matter what

ending you were going to get there was going to be a lot of people

that loved it, a lot of people were going to be

kind of in the air about it

I think with Lost and Sopranos the ending is kind of the same

yeah I mean

we definitely

first of all

we talked a lot about that ending

we were like shocked

and both him and I really kind of

ended up deciding we really loved the Sopranos ending

a lot

and we felt that

there was absolutely no way to end Lost

that was going to satisfy everybody

but we knew that

and so we basically

as we went on the journey

we knew pieces in the ending

and like any creative process

the farther you go

the more you kind of color in

and expand your creative vision

and when we got to the end of the show

we had a very clear idea of where we were going to end

and we executed our game plan

we did the ending

that we wanted to do

and that we believed in

and we felt that

some people would not like it

but a lot of people would really embrace it

and we felt that was the best we could do

and you know

there's a more nuanced answer to that question

which is over time

especially in the years since the end of the show

when I get into conversations with people

who say that they didn't like the finale

in the glass half full way of looking at things

which is a slightly new perspective for me

is that it turns out that there were things

about the finale that they really liked a lot

like almost everybody kind of digs the idea

that Hurley's in charge in the end

and that Jack's going to be in charge of it too

that's not a controversial idea

almost everybody kind of likes the idea

that Jack dies

like they're kind of cool with it

they're kind of cool with that

it's sad but they like it

it's when you start to get into the other territory

of what was the sideways world

what did it mean

what did it represent

that whole issue really speaks to the entire

sixth season of the show

and on a deeper level

the entire theme of the series

so that's the sticky wicket

that area

but at the very least

if you kind of go down the checklist of

here are things in the finale

did you like this, did you like this, did you like this

it's not a zero sum game

don't get too close to it

thank you

I just wanted to know

what gave you the idea to do Lost

was it an inspiration from someone or something

that's a great question

and I think that Lost was a show

that came from a lot of different places

and when it started out

I think it was one thing

and it gradually became another

as more brains sort of came into the process

and I think what was really special about this is

Lost is the child of a lot of different creative visions

so this iteration of it started with

an executive at ABC named Lloyd Braun

and he wanted to give our show Survivor

you know the reality show

he just wanted to do that show as a drama

and that idea sort of passed over to JJ and I

and we wrote a pilot

and we decided that we wanted it to be mysterious

and we wanted to do it in a way that was

and put flashbacks in the show

and then Carlton came in

and he started bringing some ideas

other writers came in

other directors

so that by the time we got to the end of the first season

you know we had probably a hundred different inspirations

we liked Stephen King

we loved the Harry Potter books

we loved the Star Wars movies

so we just started drawing from all these different things

and so it wasn't like one morning

we just woke up and said like

oh my god I've got the idea for Lost

so be patient

and make friends

with it

lots of smart people

I hope you enjoy it

Okay my question is

so I started watching Lost

because of a website called T. Curie

every Tuesday when your show was

I see a lot of you guys with T. Curie shoes

in here

there we go

and there was a polar bear on the computer

typing it was a little 108 clock

I bought that shirt

and then I'm like I need to watch the show

to know what the shirt means

I started getting into the second season

we started to find out what's in the hats

and all that stuff

so my question is

where did the polar bear idea come from?

inspiration from it

is it just something

randomly popped in your head?

that was a very simple one

we were on a location scout

in Hawaii

for the pilot

and we

there was no script yet

there was just an outline

so we had to

we had to get on a plane

and figure out

we were talking about

you know

we were talking about

whether or not

we were going to shoot the show

in New Zealand

or Australia

and thanks to again

Barry Johnson

who was here today

we ended up in Hawaii

which might have been

a little bit more expensive

but it actually ended up

being the right place

we were driving through Hawaii

and JJ and I

and Sarah Kaplan

who was one of the producers

on the

pilot

said

wouldn't it be cool

if there were

if there was wildlife

on this island

that is not super natural

but has no business being

you know

on this island

and then

and then JJ said

like a polar bear

he's like

no not like a polar bear

they're far less awesome

and then gravitate back

to his polar bear

that's what the

that's how it happened

thank you

thanks

alright

let's see

back in season two and three

there was

a lot of speculation

before and after

Olivia was killed

that possibly

she had some

alternative

options

you know

ulterior motives

and I was wondering

if there was any

different backstory

other than

what was planned

before she got killed off

ulterior motives

meaning

well

I've read

I've read theories

that she was

Whitmore's secret

ape person

but I read another

crazy one

where

her

her hut

and a dead husband

was on the

the deck

that

probably made

her fall down

and she was

I mean

no I mean

in the case

of that character

I mean

I think we executed

the kind of

the game plan

that we had

for her

you know

certainly other characters

their storylines

changed based on

sort of

the kind of

just

how they interacted

in our echo sphere

speaking of echo sphere

echo

that's a fine example

of a guy

who we loved

on the show

but you know

he didn't really want

to be in Hawaii

he didn't like

the show

but that in turn

gave room for us

to do a lot more episodes

with Michael Emerson

so you know

those

those things

happened

in the JKTV series

you know

JK Rowling

is completely

in control

of her universe

she can

you know

do whatever she wants

but we are

collaborating

with a whole bunch

of other people

and so

you know

there was a

there was a very

organic process

of just watching actors

and seeing how they reacted

to the show

and but

but you know

Libby pretty much

you know

she kind of

you know

she kind of did

everything that she

you know

that we had

we had planned for

that wasn't anything special

about that

come get a poster

hi there

I love Lost

it's

probably my favorite show

that I've ever watched

and I watch a lot of TV

if you could pick

any of the seasons

all of you could

could join in

on this question

just

just in terms of

sort of

favorite season

yeah

what's your favorite

you know

I think it's

it's the

the obvious answer

is in this case

the

the true one

which is

the first season

of the show

in which

anybody who knows me

and there are many people

in this room

who I worked with

during that season

was the most

unhappiest time

in my life

Carlton and I

joke all the time

about how much

I'm sorry

I'm sorry little girl

who was here earlier

but

it's literally like

you know

when the rat sobs

when you can't speak

and Carlton's saying

just

sit there for a minute

but

once

once we sort of

moved through

that

and

kind of went down to Hawaii

and watched them shoot

the raft launch

it was

it suddenly sort of

clicked in for me

that

oh my god

this is

this word Lost

so um

definitely season one

big bullshit

you were still crying

season two

and season three

and season four

and right before

and then the last season

because it was over

he's crying

oh my god

any excuse

no I would say

the first season

but just because

it was so fun

to be doing something

that was clearly

completely different

we had

broken all the rules

of you know

television

and then it was working

kind of a large

and sprawling cast

but we had characters

that had done really bad things

like murder people

we had

you know complex

intentionally very ambiguous

storytelling

you know we had episodes

that had so much subtitle

people would probably say

that's the best episode

of television

I've ever read

you know

I mean

those

the fact that people

were embracing the show

was

was great

you know

I actually

I do remember

because

when we started out

we really thought

it was going to be

a great show

and so

when Damon and I

were working on those

first episodes

it was like

let's just make

the 12 coolest episodes

of television we can

and then

the ratings came in

for the pilot

now when you're a writer

producer

like getting big ratings

for your pilot

is like winning the lottery

and Damon came in

to my office

crying

and calling the ratings

you have to keep

fucking doing this

winning the lottery

is not always

a good thing

though

yeah

I'll give you your poster

yes

I love Ross too

you know

we dived the whole time

no I'm just kidding

I was kidding

it was actually

because I know

that you guys

had featured kids

with special abilities

like Walt

and even Hurley

had things going on

from the time

he was a youth

with the numbers

was there ever

a plan

to flesh that out