Episode 959: The Deliverance

hello everyone welcome to the film junk podcast for tuesday september 3rd 2024 this is episode

number 959 and my name is sean and my name is jay and my name is frank coming up on this week's

episode we've got a review of the deliverance we're also going to talk about the new adam sandler

comedy special wow maybe some other stuff probably some other stuff i'm guessing so thanks for uh

checking out the podcast glad to have you guys with us jay and frank uh how you know it was a

nice long weekend here first day of school today uh in our area anyway i mean how are you feeling

it's it's just that time of year where i feel like people get a little bit on edge how are you guys

holding up on edge

why i'm not on edge i'm in mourning september it's been a very hard day no oh the death of

concord i was ranting and raving about my love for playstation my blue haze my passion

and how i've been playing concord i woke up today first thing i did try to get my dailies

in concord and then i look at a discord or ign i can't remember

what i saw first and concord is being pulled literally pulled removing a video game refunding

everyone who bought it and pulling a game wow a game i've dead i just said i've got 30 hours

into it already and it's gone done for nothing why it's not doing well enough something is up

there's speculation is it going to be another tax cut thing i don't think you can release

something and pull it back and still get a tax cut

i don't know i'm not an accountant but i i'll put my accountant hat on later i suppose

but i think they're just gonna wait and then launch it as free to play so i'm hoping it's

still gonna be around but wow it's been a rough day when you own concord you've decided i'm gonna

own concord it's taken away from you ultra exclusive now thank god i did not buy that

dual sense controller i was so close i mean

it would be worth money dude you just fucked up big time you should go all in on concord merch

right now yeah how are you not thinking about actually i mean if you bought more merch maybe

the game would still be alive right now something it's got to come back this is just too weird this

this is unprecedented i cannot remember anything like this ever happening

was it is it it's done so poorly that

this would be something that because lots of games don't do well right yeah especially relative to

their budget and their marketing budget so i'm sure you would be able to find other games that

have done equally as poor if not worse absolutely yeah i think sony put a lot of money into it and

maybe that means that it's they're so pot invested that it can't fail they need to re

like i think the sales were only 25 000 or something like that i don't know i don't know

something like that so like we're better to refund those and try to make money on it through

other things and re-release it but nothing has ever happened like this and i'm just i'm just

gutted i'm just absolutely gutted but i think part of it is because it's a live service game

right so if there's not enough people playing then that starts to affect yeah you're right

actually you know i'm gonna take the nintendo fan approach this this is absolutely the right

thing to do for sony like what would you do if you had a nintendo fan approach to this

rather that it fails and then no one plays it or you pull back and then re-release it and make it

as good as it can possibly be this is better than how you know a bad game is bad forever a delayed

game whatever that stupid saying is i always get wrong this is like hey even better this game is

so bad we're gonna pull it and make it good well you know what sean i'm you turn my whole day

around i'm not looking at things through optimistic eyes this is the best possible

you know when you have a blue haze you have to really look through the blue haze and i wasn't you

were so thank you i don't know that i was thinking optimistically you were i appreciate it thank you

a part of the reason why they had to pull it because you know people can't get matches going

and stuff then that's a problem i like what you said there that's the reason that they had to pull

it it was the only course of action to make sure it's the best game ever made so i'll have a jump

start i mean really the only course of action to make sure it's the best game ever made so i'll have a

well not the only reason it's probably as good as overwatch and other hero shooters

but this was a chance to get on in on the ground floor for something for once

every other game is like season 25 and it's like i don't know what's going on

so it was a chance to be with something from the beginning and this is a true test you have to be

with it when it's pulled away if you love something you let it go and then it comes back to you and uh

i just needed sean to help me to see that thank you sean oh i am gonna buy that hoodie and

controller right now sorry this is who who designed it this is the welches

uh their first game release firewalk studios i think is a bunch of former bungie developers

that uh it's published by sony the game so anyway sean you

didn't know it but you made my day thank you i have to think like a nintendo fan that's what

you have to do in these situations or like jay rationalize everything yeah hey that's what i'm

here for speaking of welches kind of a weird uh kind of a weird side topic but is grape juice

like does grape juice exist anymore like i don't know if we discussed this or like i've

had this for a long time i don't know if i've had this for a long time i don't know if i've had

this discussion with a couple people but it's like really hard to find in grocery stores now

a specific grape juice or just any just any there's lots of grape juice yeah yeah okay

i think i've had grape juice within the last three years i didn't realize why you said welches now i

do is it because of concord grapes yeah but you laughed anyways i thought it was

just a random thing to bring up great welches for specifically so now it all makes sense

it certainly does yeah there has there's grape juice is still around what what what's your

are you do you go to that metro metro is usually the one yeah i don't know i'm first of all when

i typed in welch and i got to like welch apostrophe it filled in with

welch's grape juice canada so maybe it's not available in canada there's like a something

equivalent to a crystal light or mio squirt but you know on amazon.ca if you want to buy

there's grape jelly but i mean i there's a reddit thread right here unable to find welches or any

brand grape juice in my area ottawa canada if you want welches 100 juice with calcium no sugar added

non-gmo

concord grape 64 ounce pack of eight on amazon.ca through through real diamond sellers it's 436

dollars okay well it's still available i mean watch out you should uh put a complaint in at

your local metro maybe maybe i will i just typed into walmart which is like just the easy easiest

i guess choice

there's no welches but there's alan's grape juice there's great value brand grape juice

there's fruit frute grape juice and ocean spray all right maybe you have to change brands then

you were specifically looking for welches uh no like i feel like there was none but

uh welches is what i normally would buy

but

i don't know yeah maybe it's a metro thing i don't know they don't always have the grape juice in the

the refrigerators it doesn't say made with concord grapes the ocean spray is cran grape if i'm not

mistaken alan's grape cocktail isn't grape juice i don't know if grape juice is available well

i mean alan does make pure grape juice i'm pretty sure

frutte is a grape drink yeah frutte is not grape juice i agree with that

something's up ketam ketam grape juice concord grapes that's the first 64 ounce

yeah 25 dollars okay oh uh black river organic concord grape juice that's a lot 25 dollars for

one grape juice

pretty good

pretty expensive

it's a 64 ounce it's ketam it's it's ketam

it's 100 pure grape juice made with concord grapes

it's light it's light grape juice oh no there's another ketam okay all right

you should go with the black river try the black river

or just juice 100 pure organic concord grape juice 849

have we ever juiced

talking about juice before

i think we have probably yeah i mean this is here we go and literal juicing right now

president's choice concord grape 100 juice blend blend aha okay well i'll have to i mean i i have

to admit i wasn't looking that hard but like i said i i feel like i had google you're the one

you're the one who brought it up dude if you weren't looking that hard maybe you shouldn't

have said that there's no juice and

canada i think there's something weird going on maybe some kind of shortage you may you know

it may not be impossible to find but it is harder to find i'm leaning towards sean something's up

let us know listeners let us know you see grape juice in your grocery stores

uh okay so a couple things we should mention uh you know we do finally have a retro review going

up on patreon uh this week hopefully or in the near future and we'll see you next time

uh billy madison just in time for back to school and the new sandler special

which members of billy madison are featured in that special sean

cast members schneider he's not in billy madison did he's not did you watch billy

madison or were you doing dishes i watched it but i just assumed he had some carry over

what what was the question i was looking up grape stuff still did you watch at i love you adam

sandler the special no uh well there's some people in the crowd that it it uh focuses on

at least one of which is in billy madison oh glenn gulia they get the actor who plays glenn

glenn gulia in wedding singer is in the crowd uh sean chris mcdonald who plays shooter mcgavin

was in the crowd and then some billy madison cast members sean said rob schneider

he was in the special i didn't recognize any of the people in the crowd so

i just schneider was in the special so i just assumed he was somewhere in billy madison but

miss lippy miss lippy was in the audience

sounds like a real reunion

what about hurley don't think so

okay anyway i mean that that'll be a fun discussion so keep an eye out for that and um

yeah that i mean that's about it in terms of in-house stuff but i guess we should mention

the vhs beyond trailer which dropped last week yeah some people noticed something and i mean jay

you kind of posted it right on patreon but i think some people don't even know about it

i don't even really know if it's real or not reed farrington is in vhs beyond

he is he's the star

he is the central figure in the entire motion picture

no he's he's in it he's in my wraparound thing and uh

he's in it there's uh he's represented across multiple ages

like of his own uh like there's some family photos and it's pretty sweet he's

it's a real tribute to reed farrington and his world number one credit in your section

no

has he decided what name he will go by the people that actually talk are

i don't know what actually happens in your segment so yeah he he doesn't really he's just

kind of walking he's in it he's like the interview subjects are talking about him

okay and he's represented in footage that's supposedly filmed in the past in the 90s

and he's he decided on what name is he inventing a third name

like a movie name he has a podcasting name he has a real life name

hmm i don't know we'll have to ask him okay

i mean that's

submit a name for credits or anything like that or no he's nameless darth darth nameless is back

baby yeah yeah we'll we'll definitely get read on in the near future to talk about

his experience because he seemed to have a pretty good time and um he just can't wait to talk about

it so we'll do that i mean the movie's coming out fairly soon right first week of october is

that right october 4th okay so i don't know if we'll do any other uh stuff related to it but

definitely mark it on your calendars it's gonna be cool to see you read on there for sure so

yeah and we'll have him on at some point to talk about his uh

experience

experience experience i mean maybe next week we'll have to see like i don't know what his

schedule is like but he was like all over the discord as soon as that trailer came out so

new ball junk will be dropping probably thursday nfl season preview nice big year coming up

recording tomorrow night any ultra bold predictions frank still got to come up

with a new one

awesome bud got a few cooking in here we'll see how it goes okay very cool i will be listening

i think that's about it in terms of in-house stuff so um why don't we get on to this week's

hero shout out

uh uh boobies are not to be uh

uh uh uh boobies are not to be

i love frank

i'm gonna come

all right so this week's shout out is camille bavinka hello that's an i think that's an eye

could be an i or a small l i'm i'm not too sure but i'm gonna say bavinka uh so camille

camille thank you sean copy and paste the name copy and paste the text and put it into a different

format so you can see if it's an i or an l oh i guess i could do that that seems way too complicated

but um i can put it in the chat for you guys to examine it yeah um but i mean it's i have to admit

this is a name i don't really recognize so i don't know if camille is a you know uh discord

participant or you know has commented previously under a different name i honestly don't know but

camille thank you so much for supporting the show and for being a hero it it looks well first off

camille thank you so much even though we've never heard of you and you know i i don't you say you're

camille uh frank just caught or sean copied it it looks like it's an l it is an l it's a lowercase l

so bavinka okay okay camille you're gonna have to comment if you don't if you have yet to comment

in the patreon this is the time is it truly an l or is it an i well i know it's an l

but maybe when it was originally typed

i've converted it to uppercase using convertcase.net and it turns to a capital l

you think there could have been a typo in the patreon username

yeah maybe maybe camille spelled their name wrong i don't think so

camille's a hacker i thought he'd know to convert the case

i mean like i just didn't want to go through all the work but you know you

did the investigation and uh thank you for that frank i'm a hacker thank camille

thank you camille thank you camille thanks to all our other patrons on patreon.com forward slash

film junk yeah thank you you're not yet a hero or patron

okay so we're getting into this week's review which is an interesting one

it's called the deliverance currently streaming on netflix

uh directed by lee daniels starring andre day glenn close and anthony b jenkins

the plot synopsis is an indiana family discovers strange demonic occurrences

that convince them and their community that the house is a portal to hell

what did you guys think of the deliverance

well maybe we should talk about the the origins of reviewing this to some degree

jay sent out a

a tweet with some footage i won't say what it is because a spoiler with glenn co glenn close

speaking and saying some pretty raunchy stuff and uh we were hooked we had to review this film

and then i went on to seal some talk on letterboxd about the movie

so i fired this thing up today uh at the doctor's office i got a doctor's office

i love that but i was going to say we got to pull fire it up from the crow for these moments

yes we do i mean we can do a fire it up together

sean did you even fire it up i didn't see your mouth moving

i went to the doctor's office today because i had he watched it at the doctor's office

spots on my legs spotting and i thought it was going to be something really serious

but he says it's bug bites it's not mosquito bites it's some other bug so

thank god i hope it's still just bug bites bugs i was like i i feel like i'm gonna have to go to

the hospital or something so i know it's i'm gonna have to go get testing done so i'm like

better start watching the deliverance here

and i was watching it on my phone

and i was absolutely captivated i love the first hour of the deliverance i thought it was excellent

i agree and sorry well i was just gonna say like the the lee daniels element

yeah is is a big part of that that it's not written by him i don't think

no david cogg shull and elijah bynum but the i was surprised to really

find out that it was written by him i don't think it was written by him i don't think it was written

by him i don't think it was written by him i don't think it was written by him i don't think

into the story of this family yeah and well i just want to say a first hour i was like this

might be a four and a half like top end of year material for me and i thought the lead uh actor

well both kind of leads andrew day is so good in it and glenn close she's a musician she's not

yeah and i think glenn close is really like you know we talked when the paper boy came out about

being kind of trashy but in a good way and i think this has some of those elements and glenn close

is like leaning into it very performative and unique performance which i also loved

and i thought monique was really good too and all the kids are pretty decent but i was like this

movie is why is this everyone hating this movie i i'm loving everything now i only watched 15

minutes at the doctor's office then i came home continued it and was still loving it

it's really just the last half hour where it gets into like generic uh exorcism

need deliverance uh kind of material and but even that has a couple moments that i liked but i was

really surprised based on what i'd heard about this movie i it was way better than i thought

it was going to be and i don't think it it's it's interesting i don't think it deserves to be being

shit on the way i see it being shit on in

some corners of letterbox it's even interesting from the exorcism perspective and i will not i

can't say that that stuff works necessarily in this and i can't totally disagree with the people

who might say that i was in it until that stuff happened and the movie failed um but the the lead

up to the exorcism as we've said is is great but the exorcist excerpt well deliverance

stuff uh on its own has some interesting things like the the idea uh well i'll before i get into

like picking that apart sean tell us what you thought yeah i mean i i don't think i liked as

much as you guys did but i i did kind of have a similar thought which is that andrew day was

great and i kind of was waiting for it to go crazy and

you know when the exorcism stuff hits i mean it is a little out there i think the problem is more

just that i feel like the movie up until you kind of get to the exorcism is you don't really see a

lot of what's happening like sometimes it's like you hear noises and then you come into the the

camera comes into the room with another character and it's like okay what just happened and part of

it is playing this is she abusing her kids or not kind of thing which is an interesting element of

the movie like it's

i think you know that they're they're definitely playing that up well it it's mostly interesting

because she is well yeah exactly which maybe you know it's based on a true story which makes me

wonder in you know in real life was she actually just straight up abusing her kids and then

i don't know trying to explain it away with other stuff i don't know what the story is but

when do you actually see her abuse the kids

like she she slaps the daughter right she slaps the son at the dinner table oh this okay and i

think that's the only one and he bleeds uh and they because they have the uh monique character

um you know like checking in on on the kids i think it's assumed that she's done this before

okay so the only reason i'm asking is i kind of disagree with the idea that she's abusing her kids

to some degree in the sense that i think the movie does play it for the most part like is this

actually happening or not even though as an audience i definitely was of the mind that i

don't think she's actually abusing them and i think that the movie would be more effective

if the audience knew she was not abusing them and we probably disagree on that idea but

i think you know if you're even if you have a pass

like this character if she has a past of abuse or like obviously she has a drinking problem and

stuff like that um that if she was legitimately trying to do better and everyone still thinks

she's not like there's there's a horrifying element to that of even if you say i'm not doing

this and people still think you are that is that's like kind of the horror element to me of

what do you do in that situation if no one believes you

it kind of ties into the idea of exorcism where everyone's like no you're you're crazy it's just

like some other thing and like no there's a there's someone possessing my kids it's like

all ties into that thematically so i think it would have been better a little bit if the film

just leaned in and the audience knew when exactly she was abusing them and when she wasn't and i

think that ties in thematically better with the film personally yeah i mean i like i i guess you

know kind of what i was getting at is that i think

the horror stuff would work better if that was more clear but i think the flip side of that is

that i think it is playing with some commentary there and kind of what you were talking about

the idea that if somebody's in this situation they've in the past made mistakes and now

something comes up and they're they didn't repeat those mistakes but nobody believes them you know

like that's but that's not that's not what's happening in the movie like to me to me that's

what's interesting about it is that she

is making mistakes well she is she's not perfect smells alcohol on her breath we get her at a bar

hanging out we get her walking home drunk because she couldn't drive like these are not things that

are like i'm not saying she you know is a bad person and deserved all this but it's not as

easy as her just being like okay i'm over all of that horrible stuff and trying to do right but

the tension is that everything no one believes me

they don't believe her because she's not a hundred percent over it jay's a hundred percent

right and i agree that's why i love the first hour of the movie that no character for the most

part especially hers and glenn close's character are like perfect they are flawed people and i

like the writing and like the use of language i think all is to the film's benefit in the first

hour uh when she hits the sun like she doesn't like

what i remember when she hits the sun i don't know if i'm imagining this they say something after

like it's bleeding like i i felt like he had an issue with like bleeding like even if she doesn't

hit him that hard he has like like she does hit him but it's not like she like like hammers him

or anything like that it's she like has a reaction she feels bad about it and then they there's a

throwaway line about something with him having an issue with bleeding at least that's how i

interpreted it uh when i watched the movie but from that point of view it's like she's not a

point on she definitely is like struggling with the alcoholism and it's she is flawed and i agree

that that is to the benefit of the movie where like she's under the stress of all like so many

things so many elements in her life and then you throw in a demon on top of that and it just

takes things to another level and that's again where i think the last act of the movie is kind

of a failure that it almost seems like it's not a failure it's not a failure it's not a failure

i don't know if i'm the only one that felt this way the the the energy and tension

seemed to come down for me in the third act like it was just kind of going through the motions at

that point where the the rest of the movie the tension was like ratcheting up with like what's

going on here and then when you think okay wait till we do a deliverance in this thing it's going

to be crazy and it just kind of gets cartoony and it's resolved really quickly and then you

quickly yeah like again that's for me it's like it just there was not enough build-up because

they're kind of playing this you know they're building up this other angle as as opposed to

building up the horror angle and uh and so like when it when all that stuff hits it like immediately

jumps to like 11 and you're not really ready for it and it just kind of feels goofy and i do feel

like the the glenn close stuff in the exorcism just kind of a weird

choice just i don't know like i feel like that maybe you could have got away from that and still

kind of reined it in a bit more i did my biggest issue with that is like even though i really like

when she says like terrible things i thought that was uh it does like stink a bit of the crazy stuff

she says in the exorcist and no one says crazy stuff anymore when they do these types of movies

and it felt a little

uh i wouldn't say desperate but you know obviously performative in relation to the exorcist that

took a bit away but i still visually like everything that was going on there so

uh i enjoyed the glenn close stuff during the deliverance like the actual uh process of the

deliverance and i liked her in the whole movie i thought it was really interesting costuming

playing something outside of what you normally see glenn close play

i thought she was great in it yeah i the the thing that the only thing that can make

an exorcism interesting at this point is if it's completely off the rails and not just following the

the playbook of the exorcist and this does a little bit of both there are some moments that

i think are are interesting funny weird um that add something new to the movie and i think that's

something that you can also take a little bit of life as well to play into it i feel like

you could say it's stuck with me it's like it's not going in the game but it's kind of

getting to a point where it's like i'm not gonna talk about all it's just like it's stuck

with me because i just i just i just don't understand how it's like how to capture a

whole different and new and new world it's not about what you can do and what you can

do but it's about what you're doing and so i think that the problem with exorcism was

like

her and she says i haven't i've only had i only had one i haven't had one in a long time

oh the one in a long time i thought was like something that like doesn't stop bleeding it's

about the mom drinking yeah okay all right i totally misunderstood that um but with the exorcism

side of it i feel like the problem with exorcism movies this does not and the biggest problem with

this movie is the exorcism the problem is that it's so much of it is based on one movie the

exorcist and the exorcist opened up this whole conversation about exorcisms and created a

sort of a format that you follow with these movies especially when you're in the exorcism

part like contorting bodies and

you

know saying thing rude saying just rude and nasty things and uh crawling up walls and you know all

of this stuff so it it in order to to tell a story about an exorcism if you're trying to ground it in

reality i guess you have to follow whatever has been established in the previous films like it's

like vampire vampire movies like rarely are people adding to the lore um they're they're

mainly

following the lore and then you know doing stuff to the story that surrounds it but

exorcism movies are just have gotten so stale and dull at the very least this movie you know

has the great lead up to the exorcism it has some moments that i think are funny during the

exorcism and intended to be funny and one of the more interesting things when we did our episode

on cursed films about the exorcist i talked to someone about

well a few people about the idea of horror movies as missionary tools like to uh keep people thinking

evil is real in like a secular increasingly secular world and exorcism movies fall right

in that with the idea of usually priests coming to perform an exorcism and the devil being real

and the power of priests and god being real um this one

she

like goes into uh like uh uh pentecostal you know charismatic speaking in tongues

like it really goes for it i that i thought was interesting that you know she's she's not

a religious person this event opens her up to consider that when the woman is talking to her

about this idea of a deliverance rather than an exorcism i thought the

idea of a deliverance rather than an exorcism i thought the idea of a deliverance rather than an

exorcism i thought the idea of you know saying it's not transactional it's it's a like paradigm

shift for her personally it's not just you know hold a cross get the demon out of your daughter

and then you move on with your life she's asking her to open herself up to god and she does

not just for the sake of her children but for her own reasons because she's struggling as well

and that doesn't play out in some you know

uh close up where she like is looking up and you hear the choir music and whatnot

it plays out with her on the ground going

it's billy madison yeah

but i thought that was interesting i don't know that i've seen that in an exorcism film myself

uh that's

that sort of embrace of a a more sort of out there charismatic form of religion but

it was different for sure i mean it's interesting just that it's a black family right like i don't

think that's i can't think of an exorcism movie that's done that before and obviously

supposedly is based on a true story but like you know that that's just kind of an interesting

uh a different thing to believe in i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know

what to pull from so well to some didn't the new recent david gordon green exorcist do that a bit

wasn't it kind of wasn't it two families if i remember correctly and this movie does some

similar stuff way better yeah i i think this movie is better than oh so do i uh even you know

getting back to the saying naughty things during the exorcism and what i think this or one of the

interesting things about this movie is how it that whole stuff bleeds into the first

hour of the movie like they say bad things like uh glenn close is like says racist stuff to someone

helping them at the house and it's all this idea that you know i just they're flawed like and

the flaws throughout the flaws of all the characters i never once doubted that they

cared about each other as a family and that to me is what the exorcism is about is

like

she has to be fearless and believe that this is going to work in order to save her family

and i think we jay talked about like her struggles i feel like that's her number one goal

and everything is to somehow survive this this these circumstances and help her family and i

think the exorcism is an interesting path to take that journey down and it's like the most

elevated uh you know intense hyperbolized path to take that down so all that stuff kind of worked

for me and i i thought a lot of the stuff in the first hour was kind of funny and i was like

it's shocking at times in a provocative and interesting way uh which so few movies are

nowadays like that's what i really appreciated about the first hour i'm like oh i can't believe

they said that or i can't believe they did this and it's so rare to even have

reality and i think it's so rare to even have reality and i think it's so rare to even have

reactions like that watching movies movies nowadays that that was kind of refreshing to me

yeah and slowly learning about the characters because the first thing you see

is the kid painting the batman mural on the wall and calls the mom up to look at it and she comes

up and you know he says you you did most of the work but and you know it's this nice moment

and then you slowly start to realize that she's dealing with this

issue

of drinking and she's had this past with her kids that has been abusive and

she's continuing to be abusive if i remember correctly it kind of it does set up like oh

they painted a mural together in this new house but then there's a contrast immediately from what

i remember i can't remember what gets said but like the kids swearing at her her swearing at

the kids and like kind of acting like a real family like it's usually i would say the exorcist

is also an example of a not perfect

home life uh so it does kind of follow the exorcist playbook but in a different way that

i think is good and uh and a modernized version of that and i don't know i i was really surprised

and i just want to say again uh i didn't see the is it the united states versus billy holiday or

i think so i think so yeah she was nominated for an oscar for that and i might have to check it

out that was also directed by lee daniels but i thought she was amazing

in this like so good yeah yeah i thought across the board for the most part the performances were

really good really weird seeing omar epps in there like in this kind of tiny role that didn't really

but even that even that scene the party the birthday party i you know it's one of those

weird movies where um the the birthday party

like i was happy to exist in that realm you know like that i'm it's fine that there's an exorcism

element because that's what it is that's what the story is but it's almost like they they did so much

to ground the family in the first hour that anything supernatural or unusual or strange

is even that more of a tonal shift

um or that more of a stretch visually even like seeing glenn close being picked up and choked by an

invisible attacker you would never like if if you didn't know what the movie was you would never

think that that character in that first hour of this movie would end up being picked up by an

invisible attacker and choked in the air uh it just doesn't it's a weird dynamic it is a little

bit of a from dusk till dawn kind of a weird thing but i think that there are times where it tends to

get more hidden and when it gets to the dark end of the movie you you're like you're like oh i don't

you know the movie becomes something else in the third act a little bit but there's hints like

there's the school stuff with the youngest son and some other weird stuff it's not completely

it's not i wouldn't say it's to the level of from dusk till dawn of turning on a dime

no but it's all of the stuff that comes before still plays in that realm of okay are the kids

acting out for like other reasons could be okay their mom is an alcoholic they've she says they've

moved it's the third time they've moved in a year uh they're in a new city um they are you know

dealing with uh living with their grandmother suddenly who has cancer like there's a lot of uh

i think there's enough going on in the family that

it could play as a

heightened sort of mental response to what is going on in their home lives um but it's heightened

like he is throws his shit at the teacher which is the first review i said i saw in letterboxd i

think let me let me go back to what it was i think it's still a top one uh from cinema joe

doc quotes doctor my son ate his own shit today and i'm like i'm they gave it one and a half i'm

like this sounds pretty good to me

and then there was some stuff about farting in there uh i i just this is my kind of movie

where it just leans into stuff it's kind of like it made me think of nothing but trouble to be

honest like and it's trying to be make you uncomfortable and having fun with the family

family dynamic the realistic family dynamic yeah it it uh and then when you get to the end of the

movie when you say heightened and then it says this is you're reminded that this is a family dynamic

is based on a real event i'd completely forgotten that anything like this could be in the realm of

reality so it was kind of effective but i think for the most part things are heightened a lot

yeah i mean only other additional comments i would have um you know one angle that was kind

of interesting that they didn't play with too much was just the idea of like you're in a haunted

house usually the first thing you're like you're in a haunted house and you're like you're in a

you know families in a haunted house first thing you think is like well just get out of the house

what's what's the problem but this family they've shown that they've been moving from home to home

they're kind of struggling financially like the idea of wanting to maybe get out of this house

but being stuck there uh is interesting and i mean it's it's hinted at but not really fully

followed up on and then the other thing i just you know with regards to glenn close in the movie like

i had a lot of time to think about it but i think it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's

i have seen you know people uh saying you know the idea of like wow i can't believe glenn close

is in this playing this character saying these lines that seems crazy but clearly these people

didn't see hillbilly elegy because uh she was like pretty pretty over the top in that movie too so

um but yeah i for the most part enjoyed her um and yeah like again for me it was it was really

that third act that kind of lost me

and the special effects are not great like you know you get some body contortion stuff that's

very derivative and even you know climbing the ceiling all which it's it's really surprising to

me because not much about the rest of the movie feels like it's aspiring to be something else or

to be you know uh a palatable exorcism movie it's constantly kind of in your face and doing

different stuff so uh

like we said i think there are some elements during the deliverance that make it stand out but

it does get into familiar territory and i just i can't believe this is only like 30 i guess i can

believe it's 31 on rotten tomatoes but it's everything else is so derivative and average

and boring that i feel like more people would especially critics would appreciate this

i mean it's interesting with lee daniels right because he

has done oscar from pretty far away and he does the seeing those guys in the sets and

he's done the傀 the third set Chandler Westfield i would say the best am enough said is he's

done oscar-nominated movies and then he's done stuff like uh the paper voy which i

don't think i've seen but

I thought we reviewed it

i don't think so uh maybe

i think we did

maybe you weren't on the episode i don't know

oh yeah that could have been

a vibecast maybe who knows

mm-hmm

style is or what his tone is and the movie is even kind of divided right like it's it's kind of both

it's kind of an oscar worthy drama at times but also trashy at times so i saw a letterboxd review

that the performances in this movie are as good as any oscar winning performance and i agree with

that review yeah i just i wish it did something more with those performances in the end you know

like it's for me it's still just kind of like a mild recommend it's it's interesting but i don't

think it really fully uh delivered on what it could have been either either it should have

been trashy the whole way through and more like crazy that way or it should have stuck to what

it did in the first two acts which was pretty solid

you

i mean i i don't know that it's completely

void of kind of unusual choices throughout the first hour i i even glenn close being

the mother uh i think is an interesting choice i i think that um promiscuity is an interesting

part of the movie yeah yeah the all the the um that yeah there's definitely some stuff in there

that i feel like it's kind of like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more

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entering the hospital um to get her kid the the way she sneaks in even was interesting

because she's not like staying you know like hiding and you know i'm gonna put this on put

a mask on and like all movies just push a stretcher with a patient until i get to the room

she just walks in and says hi to everybody she passes and everyone's like hi and then you just

hear in the background as she walks by who was that so like a hiding in plain sight kind of

kind of idea but there was just enough throughout this whole film even in the exorcism parts which

are the not the best parts of the movie uh that kept me hooked and interested and

you know

and maybe by the end a little bit like oh that's this is feeling really sloppy suddenly um

but it it managed to overcome that when i got to the end credits that first hour and the interesting

elements of the last act managed to overcome that for me walking away from it okay any other thoughts

i don't think so

no i was very surprised based on what i'd heard uh okay what are you guys gonna give it out of

five stars this is a tough one because it's like i'm a light four i'll say it for me it's between

a 3.5 and a four um leaning towards four especially if i overlook some stuff but i'll go

with four as well sounds like a guy who's giving a lot of thought to star ratings that he says he

doesn't care about

oh yeah i mean if i'm forced to do it then

all right i'll give it a three let's move on to other things we watched

what did you guys watch this week uh well i can i can jump in because it's somewhat related

i rewatched poltergeist 2 uh the other side

i picked up the

the 4k for this looks very nice and i think the last time i watched this was when we did the

premium poltergeist premium i believe uh did we do i don't think we did a poltergeist premium

no we did exorcist we haven't done a poltergeist premium no no because we did just poltergeist on

its own for something yeah because i hadn't seen it do you remember jay wrote a petition

or create a petition on change.org that is still the first thing that comes up if people search my

name right so you frank have you seen poltergeist 2 no

you've seen it sean haven't you i i think i've seen two i don't think i've seen three

but they're both insane two is an insane movie

uh

like we how we gotta do a poltergeist premium dude like come on um then we gotta watch the

remake though no well i don't know but the the freeling family moves to a new home and

starts encountering similar things happening and there's this character kane who is this

like preacher played by uh this elderly man well i i think he was elderly julian beck he was sick

when he made the film but just a real uh real effective creepy character we get a bunch of

backstory essentially explaining everything about uh why the original home was haunted

and it gets into you know native american lore in a really clunky disrespectful way and

it gets into like the uh this this kane character having a religious cult and

it is a weird insane movie and again kind of like the deliverance the freeling family is so well

performed and written

i mean especially craig t nelson and joe beth williams craig t nelson is amazing in this i i

when i was watching this my thought was this feels like the freelings was a sitcom and i would love

if i had i if i had the time you're not just like i'm just bottlenecking with all of my napping and

video gaming but it if i had the time i would put together a little you know one of those joke videos

about the freeling sitcom it's almost like this is an adaptation of a sitcom about this family

that incorporates horror elements because they are such a sitcom family like they're they're

funny they you know have all of the like the classic golden retriever dog and um

i just i just i just think they need to make a poltergeist did this make you want to re-watch

coach did you buy coach off cheap charts

it's not on itunes yikes but i'm looking at some screenshots definitely remembering some

fright flicks uh cards here one of the things he's throwing up something out of his mouth

oh that's a great great moment is there like a weird gross dog thing that i'm seeing that i

remember that's the thing he throws up out of his mouth okay and i remember like their back was like

an iconic thing i remember the ad for that yeah sorry while we're on that note i interrupted you

sorry like you know the they have their grandmother there who's this magical grandmother

who's trying to encourage carol ann to embrace her psychic abilities and the grandmother i don't

even want to spoil it for our uh poltergeist premium but just a wild movie uh

i'm not seeing the grandmother in any of the shots on imdb makes me think she dies early

she might but she she makes a comeback in a big big way the last act um grandma jess

i was just getting weird vibes off this movie this time it kind of reminded me like if there

are moments that felt lynchian

but then there are moments that are just like completely out there very cool it's all very

cool that's weird i'm like looking at i feel like poltergeist 3 is the one i have more of a memory of

but i don't have either of them logged on letterbox so i don't know poltergeist 3 is good as well

okay frank

okay

just the

sandler special if you're ready to talk about that

sure

and let's get the title correct

love you adam sandler does that sound right to you sean

or adam sandler love you i i don't know the correct order but

yes let's find out adam's on imdb it's adam sandler colon love you

okay i could have swore in the movie it's love you then adam sandler but

whatever uh so this is a new sandler special on netflix note of note because it's directed by josh

safty of the safty brothers and now just on that did they did they direct the last one he did too

or i don't believe so i don't know for sure though i'll look it up but i i don't know for

some reason i thought maybe they did but and again it's just one safty

this time josh and it's set up at like this very small theater of the round almost uh where

everything's black and it's shot like the camera and look is that of like very similar to uncut

gems i didn't note who the cinematographer was but it looks like a safty brothers movie

and i don't like i watched the last stand-up and i i've never been

been in a movie where i've never been in a movie where i've never been in a movie where i've never

on adam sandler stand-up i didn't mind his cds uh and we'll probably get into these were class

on the billy madison uh review but i was never that big on adam sandler until the movies hit

and the stand-up doesn't do much for me like there's a couple the masturbating uh to the

girl on or the woman on the raisins box i thought was pretty funny and uh

and some like

other stuff was uh was pretty good but i just think it's interesting how it's filmed and i

kept getting this sense and this is what josh safty did like the zooms and like awkwardness

and things keep going wrong and i'm like is this has got to be planned like this is building to

something this there's something else going on here there's no way this was not planned

and all these things going wrong feel like it's written in a way like what everything that

happens over this hour and 10 minutes is a written thing and i don't know if it is and

that's kind of the interesting thing to me by the end of it you're like this is strange

even the part where he zooms in on the cast members i talked about before like there's

this strange cinematic element going on that elevates what is to me just kind of like an

average or below average stand-up performative set with some music stuff and that's kind of what

it is so i'm kind of i'm glad i watched it but it's a weird thing to recommend i wouldn't i guess

i'd recommend it to people who like adam sandler stand-up which wouldn't even necessarily be me

and people who like the safty brothers yeah it's a weird combination i mean i agree that like

the opening i definitely was getting

safty vibes just because it's like he's walking on stage and there's all this kind of chaos

happening and it just felt like okay yep this is a safty brothers thing uh and i'm pretty sure the

stuff going wrong was scripted and intentional i could have swore it was josh safty's voice

when he's yelling back at the tech guy about the screens and the computers

i'm guessing that was him could be but yeah because i mean the whole thing is like

stand-up performative set is kind of like a stand-up performance set

comedy specials like you never see things go wrong because they could just

shoot another night of the tour or however you know like yeah i think it just so maybe in a way

that was there they thought that would be interesting just to show something like a

stand-up thing where there's all these technical things going wrong because you never see that

i mean i don't know that it was funny necessarily but it does create this weird sense of

unpredictability i guess um but yeah i mean i i i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know

that it really laughed that much but it felt to me like in the same spirit of you know this this

comedy albums that you know we grew up on and you know like it was a lot of musical stuff

a lot of like quick songs that are just like you know building to a punch line or something like

that and i didn't mind that stuff some of his like other like there's a couple longer stories

that he tells that just get

more and more absurd and you know i didn't think they were worth the build-up necessarily but

um but yeah i didn't mind it it was okay it was you know that i did i feel like i had seen part

of his last one which i think i have up here i think it was the 100 fresh one that was directed

by steven brill yeah which so no safty involvement as far as i can see but um i just remember there

was like a song that he did in this one where it was like

wallet keys uh something like that where he was just talking about like every time he leaves the

house he's got to remember wallet keys something and i was just like man like this is all he's got

now like really has no material but this felt more inspired and it does end with a song that

is strangely very um but not humorous it's just a tribute to comedy and him kind of talking about

all the comedians that he loves that

you know have brought joy to people and it's kind of this emotional final song which is interesting

which the last one had too i was uh like or some portion was about chris farley i'm i'm almost

positive okay so it's kind of striking that same note again this time ending i believe with norm

is the the last person he mentions norm mcdonald and he uh also i was surprised jim downey was

one of the he leaves like a lot of people and he's like i don't know i don't know i don't know

a lot of his i think biggest influences and friends for last and uh jim downey was one of

them too so it's yeah i think it's safty is kind of doing the heavy lifting on this special in

terms of making it watchable but uh i'm always shocked by adam sandler's like i know he's casual

but how casual or if that's like a conscious choice that they talked about like we're

brown sweatpants with a multi-colored shirt with a plain hoodie

like all this stuff i i imagine them going over and planning this stuff out to make it seem like

it's natural but weird and i also wouldn't be surprised if this is actually connected to

something else that they're working on like it's a trojan horse or gathering footage for something

else or related to something else maybe i mean they do obviously have a working relationship

with him now so you know that kind of interesting

to see that put into the context of a stand-up comedy special because it kind of feels like

him working out material not it's not like a polished special and i think that's probably

the defining aspect like what if we made a special feel like you know working material out in front of

people because they say oh we're going to try this voice recorder or voice change thing and

they're kind of improvising before the show which you typically would never do uh in like a film

special or something like that so i think that's a really good point i think that's a really good

he does mention i think one song where he's like oh we've never played this before live

so yeah there's an element of that yeah but yeah so that's on netflix adam sandler love you

i would give it a three and a half a late three and a half yeah i'd probably be about that too

wow okay i got a few other things uh jay do you have some other stuff too yep

okay let me i'll go with um we are zombies which i watched uh from the same filmmaking team that

did turbo kid and uh summer of 84 i want to say it was called um so i think they're from montreal

i like those other two movies this one you know i didn't really know much about it other than

it's kind of a zombie movie but i thought i'd give it a shot um and i think it's a good movie

and it was okay i like i think i liked the the tone of it more than the actual content

apparently it's based on a comic book which i'm not familiar with but the idea is kind of that

there's a world where zombies exist but they're not a threat which is actually not

dissimilar from disney's zombie zombies movie franchise but anyway uh

so they kind of like you know there's like zombie sex workers and like you know they're kind of like

uh looked at as like second class citizens a little bit and they're kind of just a pain in

the ass that you have to deal with um and so the movie takes place in this world it's obviously

kind of comedic uh but then there's sort of this plot that's going on where there's a corporation

that kind of wants to turn zombies potentially violent

and uh it goes from there but i mean the plot i actually found a little confusing like more

complicated than it needed to be for like an 80 minute movie but it did have the vibe of like a

sean of the dead obviously not as good and not as well written but kind of the idea of like there's

a couple of love uh not triangles but like a couple of uh romances or unrequited love

situations happening in the midst of all this zombie stuff that's going on

um and just kind of a sort of mundane conversations and people still making fun of each other in

amongst all this stuff so i kind of like that about it and actually the effects and and gore

were actually really well done and the score was amazing done by the same i don't know if it's just

one guy or or what but uh same artist that uh scored turbo kid and summer of

84 so uh i did like that quite a bit so it's you know if you're looking for an indie horror thing

and and you liked their other movies maybe give it a give it a shot but i you know it was okay i

was kind of disappointed but i think it's it's on itunes currently in canada but in the u.s i think

there's like some kind of streaming one of those horror streaming services that has it

screambox maybe is that a thing sounds familiar i think so

so anyway yeah that is we are zombies not to be confused with we are little zombies which we did

review a few years back we did what was that that was that japanese movie about the band the kids

formed a band kind of like uh that's like this that's what they say aren't they we were little

zombies or something the song yeah don't remember uh i watched

sudden death colin just watch this too oh yeah it's four stars luke robotized clutch i believe

was his review yes um this is uh i mean it's uh if people haven't seen it it's a die hard

die hard in a hockey arena and jean-claude van damme plays a fireman who had a mishap

job and is now in charge of he's like the i don't know fire the guy in the arena and there it's the

stanley cup uh game deciding game and there's a big complicated plot about the vice president

is that going to be at the game and the government has a bunch of money that's frozen

in all of these bank accounts uh that is i think they've frozen other countries money i can't

remember now but basically the bad guy comes in says i we want all the codes to unfreeze that

money and we're going to take a chunk of it or we're going to blow up this arena and we've set

bombs all throughout and then van damme he's there with his kids and leaves his son uh

and is like whatever you do don't move stay stay here and it's just like funny that by the end of

the movie the arena has been evacuated because of these bombs and the kids just still sitting there

like where's my dad i i told and then jean-claude comes he's like i didn't move dad i didn't move

and it won a great fight scene with um um the philadelphia penguins mascot

philadelphia penguins is that who it is pittsburgh penguins oh pittsburgh penguins

uh the mascot there's an extended fight scene where one of the bad guys is in the mascot outfit

and it's in a kitchen and it's an extended fight scene of jean-claude van damme

and this person but they never get out of the mascot outfit so he's just fighting a mascot

for this scene lots of wild stuff in this movie as well it's it's off off the rails um but very

watchable i think one of jean-claude van damme's better films maybe i guess it's you know it's

still dumb but it's fun and

it's directed by peter hyams so it's got the hyams sort of look to it and um yeah it's it's

worth a watch if you're into the die hard on a sub genre sub sub genre

nice this is on 4k now yeah and i there let me just say there's like

the insanity of this you know he's trying to he's trying to find where all of these bombs

are and disarm them and through a series of actions that i don't know totally makes sense

he ends up in the oh right the the goaltender is taken out of the game because there's something

wrong with him and jean-claude van damme takes his gear and dresses up as a goaltender i think

to try to get closer to the ice or something and then he gets pulled onto the ice and then for

like five minutes it's this little mini movie about him like worried about trying to save the

goal like it's really weird i remember that but uh yeah enjoyable rewatch nice um okay so i checked

out this movie milk and cereal been hearing a little bit about it there were some comments

on patreon and discord as well i was like you know a youtuber by the name of curry barker i believe

do not know who this guy is but you know he uh made this found footage movie it's available to

watch for free on youtube getting a little bit of buzz if you can call it that so i was curious

because you know we've talked about this and i feel like the next generation of talent should

be coming from youtube but they have no motivation to make movies because

they can make more money from youtube so anyway um so it's called milk and cereal the the main

character's nickname is milk and uh the idea is that he has a youtube channel i believe he has a

youtube channel but like basically him and his friends prank each other is the main premise and

so it kind of starts with one prank being set up and executed and then some weird things happen

after that and then you're kind of waiting and

like if there's kind of multiple layers of pranks that are happening and revealed uh but then at

some point you know somebody's actually killing people and um i actually thought like i liked the

first half i thought like the performances were actually very natural like among the the better

of sort of found footage performances i've seen which i guess makes sense if you know

curry barker is the star as well so these people have been on youtube they are

comfortable just talking to the camera and um i guess like the thing is that you know there's so

many of these like not a ton of them but like these reveals and twists that eventually like

there's a stretch in this in the middle of the movie that i thought was kind of working and had

some kind of creepiness to it and then there's like a twist that just wipes that all out and

kind of by the end the final act wasn't really working for me

um just i

don't know we kind of lost the tension that had been built up i thought um but you know it's still

kind of an interesting experiment i guess um it did like if i would compare it to anything it

would probably be uh creep uh which was that on netflix i can't remember where that got released

but that was also kind of a found footage movie about you know sort of uh i guess it's kind of a

found footage slasher but um

kind of in that zone so if you're if you like that movie you might want to check it out um

i don't know sean do you want to disclose the running time for this film

sure a beautiful 62 minutes is that a factor oh yeah big time

just checking yeah i mean i i just thought i'd throw it in today because i was curious but um

you know i guess he's done like a short film as well that was kind of well received

i don't know this guy's

is but i wouldn't be surprised if uh maybe it does lead to some bigger things but again like

i read an article that he he had a distributor lined up i don't know who who it was but in the

end they just kind of said well we'll just throw it on youtube and he's probably probably made more

money already from that so um anyway that's milk and cereal okay uh i'll just say quickly i watched

a quiet place day one which i wasn't crazy about it it feels like barely anything happens

in this movie uh directed by michael sarnoski uh i really like lupita nyong'o but i don't know

like it is just there was nothing about it that stood out to me as being different or interesting

other than the premise of

her

getting the pizza but yeah pretty pretty middle of the road um and i also i'll just say i i

watched desperado um the 4k and just a great great flashback memory to this film and it's still

that was the 4k presentation good it's good

um yeah just a fun fun watch it's funny the action is still really great and inventive and clever and

looks great guillermo navarro is the cinematographer who did a lot of

um well he followed this up i yeah i followed this up with jackie brown but

shot some of guillermo del toro's stuff it it's good i have not watched the 10 minute

uh cooking school or whatever is on the disc yet uh but i've seen them all before

as long as they're preserving that stuff in 4k it's all that matters

i don't think the cooking school is in 4k well fair enough um okay last thing for me i watched

the first two episodes of chimp crazy this is the documentary series on hbo max about the

another exotic animal uh broker i guess is the word um and it kind of follows um

you know the first episode kind of talks about this there is this group of chimps a lot of them

were used in show business uh and one in particular

had worked with alan cumming who kind of is involved or at least an interview subject in

the documentary and he went on to become involved in pita so he was i don't know exactly what his

involvement was but you know he was part of this movement to get these chimps released because

wherever they were living after they were done with show business it wasn't great and so they

get them all released but one of the chimps is missing so it becomes this mystery of like what

happened to this other chimp and then they get released and they get released and they get

the other chimp and the second episode doesn't focus as much on that it kind of is more telling

the story of another uh well-known chimp attack trying to remember what the name of that chimp was

but i guess it's pretty well known the woman who invites her friend over because

the chimp is going crazy and the chimp bravis was the chimp's name bites her face off and

she had a face

transplant yeah so it kind of tells that whole story and which was the inspiration for nope the

right moment nope and so yeah like i mean from the same i don't know it's the same director or

same producers as tiger king but you know it's kind of in the same territory and and certainly

the main subject her name's tanya haddix she's kind of kind of similar in this in the sense that

she's like very

um flamboyant and she's like getting like constantly getting collagen injections and

just like i don't know she's a real character but um you know the difference i think is that

when you're talking about chimps there's a lot of a lot more discussion about like how they are

similar to humans there's this extra connection there they feel like you kind of you know have

these real genuine interactions with them but they are still wild animals and

can

can hurt you so um you know it's it's an interesting subject and uh the the end of the

second episode kind of drops a bit of a bombshell so i'm curious to see where it goes but i think

it's only four episodes so i'll finish that do they uh play the audio tape of the sandy hook

shooter calling into a radio show telling the story of travis the chimp no they don't they

don't uh play that but maybe it might be a good idea i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't

know it might still be coming i don't know

but uh that's chimp crazy on hbo max and crave in canada anything else for you jay nope okay

dvd blu-ray and vod releases this week huge new release winnie the poo blood and honey

uh on i think there's a sequel coming as well uh on 4k we've got sweeney todd a league of the

their own uh the amityville horror not the original but the 2000s remake uh the boy and

repo man catalog releases moby dick chains of gold blame it on rio uh naughty girl lord of

illusions the hound of the baskervilles and the world without thieves on vod this week we've got

dd which i've heard some good things about

and on streaming we've got uh rebel ridge on netflix which is uh jeremy solnier's

new film don't know too much about it but i'll probably check that out

um the boy and the heron on hbo max wise guy david chase and the sopranos

uh documentary on hbo max english teacher on hulu brick tunes on disney plus this is

a lego animated series of shorts or something slow horses season four on apple tv plus i really

did to get caught up on this apollo 13 survival on netflix i assume that's just a documentary

about apollo 13 i really don't know uh coming from america on max fight night the million

dollar heist on peacock and the perfect couple on netflix and then in theaters we've got these

all like just documentary series like every single one of them is like a documentary series like every

thing that's on that's a lot of what's coming out right now i i mean it's weird because we

talked about this a while back but i was waiting for like when are we hitting that wall of like

the writer strike hits and we're not getting any new content and maybe this is it i i really

but it feels like it's been a little slow the last few weeks anyway

and yeah in theaters we've got beetlejuice beetlejuice and the front room so next week

we're going to have a we will be going into american theater we have the goddamn

sister of each other be just não

and it could be a part two of a genre and i have already presented even before the comics

cast be i myself be healing right i think of like in 와 i when was that from like to your shows right

i mean like for instance in the movies randy do you ever play this game or guys i ever played it

yeah about a three yeah wow i thought it'd be like a one or two

i'm hopeful that it's good but tim burton has not made anything i've really enjoyed for quite

some time might need to go back to dark shadows this week my brother

uh-huh maybe my brother might be the time

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