The Overnightscape 2150 – Best of The Boardrooms (9/6/24)

So the other day I had a few early morning errands to run. Now, I don't usually have early morning errands to go on, but you know what it is, it's like when it's early in the morning, like, you know, this is sort of like 8.30 a.m., you know, before 9 a.m., it feels good to go out and get stuff done. It's just weird, you get this sense of accomplishment before the day has really started.

But yeah, I had to go to the ATM to get some cash, I had to go to Town Hall of my town here to get a garage sale permit, and I had to go to the cleaners to pick up my shirts and drop off more shirts to be laundered.

So it was pretty good, it's kind of cool just walking into Town Hall. It's like walking into the 1970s, the building, everything about it, it's sort of frozen in time, you know.

Yeah, we're going to have like a town-wide garage sale here in town in Nutley, New Jersey here.

So we've done it a couple times, it's like two days, and my wife and our neighbor, like, we just have this huge garage sale, it's unbelievable.

We have repeat customers, we have people coming back year after year, it's like this amazing process, this amazing project.

Anyway, so as you may recall, a few weeks ago I went to the ATM, but the ATM inside...

The ATM inside the building was busted, it's like not working, so I had to wait in line to do the car one, and there was a guy in front of me, and he was completely, like, he was standing there for like the better part of like 10 minutes, like what the hell is this guy doing?

He's on the phone, he's holding like money in his hand, he's all confused, he's talking to someone, I'm like, how complicated is it to use an ATM machine?

How is it that I'm always stuck behind that wall?

One person that's taking like a half hour to get done, it always is the same way.

It's so frustrating when you're waiting on line, and by the way, I understand that this phrase, waiting on line, is a very, very isolated turn of phrase, or so people have told me, to this New York, New Jersey area.

Like, all my life, we sang standing on line, right?

Right.

But apparently...

All the rest of the country is saying you're standing in line.

We say standing on line.

It's just, it's a colloquialism, perhaps?

It's a regionalism, there you go.

I know they're not, they're called queues in other English-speaking areas, perhaps.

I know at least in Britain they're called queues, yeah.

Because you question, why are you on this long line, yeah.

But it's always like you're on the line.

And there's someone at the window, the classic was, of course, the ticket windows at the Port Authority bus terminal, which is the thing of the past for me, right?

Because I used to buy paper tickets, right?

I used to actually get the monthly ticket before the pandemic.

I used to wait in line to get that.

Oh, I said in line.

You can go either way.

And you'd be on these long-ass lines, and there was a bunch of windows open.

So the first thing, I mean, I learned this through experience.

And this is something, this is a mystery of the universe, right?

Right, when you choose a line, usually the shortest line possible.

And then, right, all the other lines go faster, right?

So your inclination would be, okay, well, oh, my God, the line to the right of me is going so fast.

Let me switch lines.

Inevitably, the line.

When you switch, it goes even slower, and the line you were on starts going fast.

Now, listen, this has happened to me so many times, and I'm sure many other people can vouch for this as well.

It's like this is a real phenomenon.

It's not just a matter of perception.

So I adopted the philosophy that once you choose your line, just stick with it.

As torturous as it's going to be, you're better off just staying on the line, which you know is going to be moving.

No matter which line you choose, it's going to move slower than the other.

But you're better off just staying on the line rather than jumping lines.

And then, right, for some reason, you cause the lines to go slow.

It almost sort of implies weird aspects of reality, almost suggesting solipsism that that's the belief or the perception that maybe you were the only conscious entity in the universe and everything else and all the other people.

Everything is all an illusion.

Because how could it work?

Because what if you were to, like, make an experiment where you were to sort of gather, like, five or six people, and all of them are like, listen, we're all going to describe our experience on lines.

Imagine there's, like, six lines, and you get six people, right?

And then you're like, we're going to beat the system because, like, the six people get on lines.

But the theory is, to each of them, their perception is going to be all the other lines are going to move faster.

So it can't work.

It sounds like the quantum physics where, right, like, you observing it alters the system, right, that whole thing.

There's something very, I think lines have, or cues, as they call them out of the place, have something to do with quantum physics.

You know what I'm saying?

It's always very mysterious.

But anyway, that aside, there's another phenomenon where, for example, the task.

The task of the ticket lines is to get by tickets.

So usually, myself personally, go to the front of the line, and I used to say, hey, give me a monthly to Nutley, New Jersey,

and pass my credit card through that little depression underneath because I guess they're behind bulletproof glass

because who knows what's going to happen to these bus ticket sellers.

I guess people, do people hold them up?

I don't know.

There's, like, bulletproof glass and everything.

And then they do their thing.

They go typing away at their computer.

Run the credit card, the ticket prints out, they give me the receipt, you sign it.

I feel like it might take me at most a minute, you know.

And then when I get my stuff, so I got my credit card back, my credit card receipt, the ticket or tickets, you know what I'll do?

When I finally, I'll move to the right, and there's a little counter space there, at least support authority, and to put away everything

so the next person can get there.

So I'm very mindful of that, right?

It takes a minute, maybe two minutes.

Right?

Yeah.

It takes a few minutes at most, because sometimes the computers are slow.

Inevitably, every time I get online, every time I used to get online there, I'm way back in line, like, maybe 15 people back in line,

and there's a person at the ticket counter for a minute, and two minutes, and five minutes, and ten minutes.

And what are they doing?

The person behind the counter looks all confused, typing on their computer.

Then they walk away, and they bring an ad, they find some sort of ticket expert in the back rooms to come up and sort of,

they're scratching their heads, they're like, well, we can't figure this out.

This person, like, what could it be?

I can't even imagine.

What kind of tickets is this person buying that requires, like, this meeting of the minds, and all these people coming over, and extra computers, and oh my god, like, what?

Like, I can't even understand, what is it?

What is going on?

What are they doing?

What could possibly be the problem?

So that's what it was like at the ATM a couple weeks ago.

The guy, he's, like, on the phone.

He's all confused.

He's looking back, like, what are you trying to do in an ATM machine?

All you can be doing is putting money in or taking money out, like depositing a check, deposit cash.

Like, what could you possibly be doing that is taking that long?

Like I could understand if I could comprehend what the hell these people were doing.

So, this is what happened the other day.

I mean, all things considered, I prefer to go into the ATM vestibule,

which is open to anyone.

open 24 hours you know off hours you gotta swipe your card so you can get in you know

um so i got there i guess it was like 8 30 8 45 and there's one guy at the atm machine i'm like

oh okay there's no line or anything but and then as soon as i walk in a guy uh who works at the

bank unlocks the door it was 8 45 but then i looked at the i looked on the outer door and it

says the bank opens at 9 so now there is an atm machine inside but i'm like i don't want to just

sort of rush in there technically it's not open yet you know how long can it take this guy this

guy's almost done anyway right wrong so the guy at the atm machine right first of all he's holding

a comb in his hand the whole time i don't understand this he's holding it like like a

pocket comb like one of those little black pocket combs you know i carry one around with me as well

but i'm holding my hand while i'm at the idea machine i stick in my pocket so he's holding

this comb in his hands and meanwhile

he looks all confused and the machine keeps going

what is this guy doing right and he is like typing away on the screen pressing the keypads the thing

is going like it won't like what is like i'm like all right he must have some maybe the machine's

broken i mean because last time i was there was broken that same machine so he's continuing this

goes on for a minute and two minutes and like five minutes i think this went on for nearly 10 minutes

he's like typing away and he's sort of almost like holding the comb up in a weird way

maybe that's it like like maybe it's like a magic comb that's supposed to like uh

help you use the atm machine for people that are that are kind of i don't know i don't why

was he holding a comb is that is that some weird symbol or something that people like if you hold

a comb or an atm machine the hell could that even mean as it has like secret meanings i don't know

anyway

so i'm i'm trying to stay calm i'm like listen i i it's fine he's got to get be dumb event dumb

done eventually what is he doing right so meanwhile these people come in behind me

right and they uh they look and they see this guy struggling with the atm machine with his comb

right and they see me standing there i'm next and then they just walk into the bank even though it's

not open yet and use that atm i'm like oh damn i could have gone in there i could have gone in there

and used it i just didn't want to feel like i'm like going in the bank before it's open you know

what i'm saying so they're going in so i'm like okay all right i'm going to keep an eye on both

of these now both these atms the one in the vestibule and the one inside but then they

they start having problems they they're like confused scratching their heads walking away

they're getting forms filling out for what what what are they doing now there's two there's two

groups there's one guy with the comb and then there's this this couple these two people that are

filling out forms and they're they're getting paper slips like wait you don't need that for

the atm machine what is going on so finally so i'm like listen i if those people get done i'm

just going to go inside with the comb guy finally the comb guy somehow he just i just see him walking

away with a huge pile of cash in his hand he's like he just walks away i i what was he doing

and so i used the atm machine and it was fine it worked perfectly i mean

yes it was a little slow you put the card in and the screen has this little spinny thing on it for

like for like five six seconds trying i i don't know at this point they can't have an atm machine

that atm machine that is a little faster anyway whatever but i realized that right um

what may have happened is that you go to get cash out right you type in how much money do you want

you type it in

and then it and then it says then it starts beeping because please remove your card

and then you get your cash but i don't think maybe he didn't understand or couldn't maybe

he didn't speak english or he couldn't read the screen right you should you need to take

your card out then it'll give you the money so i think he probably so i sort of explained it

not the comb part but maybe he was just combing his hair while he was waiting you know i i think he

was just combing his hair while he was waiting you know i i think he was just combing his hair

and he was just combing his hair and he was just combing his hair and he was just combing his hair

instead of just grab your card and then you get your money that may have been what happened

anyway why is this always happening why am i always behind someone that's

incredibly confused i don't know

that's this uh lighter i got a while back these the the jet lighters you know that has this jet

of blue flame that uh is not really affected by the wind and it's a really good lighter to have

and uh when i went to uh house of monte cristo

um used to be known as jr cigars there's one on route 10 and one on route 17 here in new jersey

i got the lighter and i really liked it but then uh it ran out so i went to the other location i

guess got another one they're not terribly expensive but i distantly realized they are

probably refillable so when that one ran out i did a cigar order online i i'm using cigars

international lately and um i got two of them i'm like i may as well get two because you know

uh i don't want them to run out meanwhile i realized i should have been refilling them

is this being wasteful i don't know treating a refillable lighter as a disposable lighter

anyway those two came and they were not filled so i'm like okay i really have to figure out how to do this.

figure this out so i finally got some butane i had had butane in the past but i just it's something

weird about it it's like uh it's like this i got premium butane from colibri there's like this

little plastic nozzle and it's under pressure and it's like why is it so complicated i don't know

but anyway so i uh i finally figured out how to do it the thing is essentially you just need to

press the nozzle against the nozzle on the lighter and push down and it'll put the the butane inside

in a liquid form but you first need to bleed it off right and i never understood this phase i get

to bleed off the excess pressure i still don't know exactly what it's doing but um i was able to

use my one of my prized possessions here the sog power lock multi-tool in titanium nitride gold

matte gold finish

uh this is a multi-tool from a company called sog sog kind of a competitor to leatherman but

this is a cool one because this has been completely discontinued this

gold it's a beautiful like matte gold color and they call it tiny t-i-n-i titanium nitride

and it has all these tools inside it also has like a needle nose plier kind of thing

and one of them i don't even know what you'd call it it's sort of this sharp point and it's perfect

for a cheap thing you know you can't even find a little bit of detail through the

it's it's a beautiful one and i've been working on it for a long time so i want to show you

this one it even comes with a madeleine wifeside by the way this is the very outer cover and i

think it's going to be really tough to cut i'm not sure if you guys aren't aware of that i'm actually

not sure if you guys know that just because i don't know what's going to be in the inside of this

but it's a beautiful thing and now the other one is going to come inside and i'm going to show you

a little different detail into it and i'm going to show you how you can cut a little bit of material so i'm

something that motivates people to do things because when you're done you'll feel a certain

you get a little reward the hell's going on dopamine rewards for doing things with the hell

very bizarre but i feel good that i i've refilled them that'll that'll last for a while

and of course it's premium butene so no no it must be good yeah

but yeah the mystery of what's going on here

um you know

this scenario that i'm in right now that i can't be sure anyone else is in but i'm assuming there's

other people here there seem to be other people here though it could all be an illusion as i

mentioned earlier this concerns me and this is something that i'm it bugs me every single day

of my life what is this how did i get here what is going on i know it can sound cliche and perhaps

tiresome to try to figure out what's going on but i'm sure there's other people here

to deal with these issues

but um i think the pure question is not tiresome it's enduring and important and it's actually you

know kind of i know most people don't ponder it as much as i do because they've uh found belief

in various ways which i think is belief is a kind of a comfort right it's a relief to believe right

so maybe you don't have to have all this existential angst every day

and as it seems there's no answers forthcoming is it a pointless pursuit no it's not

any additional information context perspective that i can get

is valuable to me because i want to find out figure out what's going on

i think what's actually tiresome is that when someone falls into belief

and it starts espousing that belief

that can get tiresome i suppose uh so i guess most people feel like on the religious side

they're part of a religion and they take that stock answer for the answer to these big questions

great i understand that uh and i can't accept those answers

because i don't find them satisfying they don't ring true to me right i mean i don't know that

i've checked out every single religion on earth but uh i've i've i'm familiar with enough of

enough of them that i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't

not to say that they don't have in their in their right each religion is sort of a glass onion

a russian doll of um nested concepts right huge overarching concepts and getting more and more

more specific right so i mean the idea is this universe and its existence is caused by created

by uh this this high-end entity known as god

right where most religions have something like that at the top level and then as they get down

in levels they get more and more specific and the specifics is where things get much more

much more hard to take you know like uh as i mentioned uh over the last weekend i went to a

funeral and part of it was a funeral mass a catholic mass and um you know i the specifics of

it were did not

they were not something that i could do i could do something that i could do

something that i felt uh

what's the right way of putting it it was off-putting to me you know it just it didn't

ring true to me it didn't feel like the right way to go i don't know how to say it i mean

um the ritualistic nature of it repeating phrases constantly which you know repeating

phrases is is an aspect of brainwashing you know like it really is we talked about that on a recent

episode but uh

you know and then the idea of the eucharist uh blessing a kind of a little wafer turning it into

the flesh of christ things like that it for me personally i i'm not i don't i'm not into that

i don't like that idea at all for me that's very off-putting that whole concept though i know it's

a central tenet of that particular religion for me that doesn't feel right it doesn't look right

i don't like it but hey that's just me

i'm not catholic though i suppose my grandfather was catholic when he was younger and my maybe my

grandmother as well but it didn't last till i was born they had sort of snuffed out catholicism

in that family because my grandfather was an atheist and uh anyway anyway i'm not an atheist

by the way i if i had to do this over under 50 50 of is there a god of any sort you know like

god is so incredibly vague right it could mean so many different things so many different people

but you kind of get the idea there's a a more larger more powerful entity kind of overseeing

things if i had i i would say my personal sense is that there's a more than 50 chance that there's

something like that going on right i like to deal in percentages not beliefs anyway that's just me

yeah but anyway i think that you know there's a lot of other things to do in life as opposed to

ponder the imponderable so if you're born into a religion it could be a rather convenient way to

relieve the burden of that type of thing from your mind you know just go with the religion

you were born into just go with that oh that's how everything works okay you know i get it i

don't begrudge that people i if there's all it takes all kinds you know um

so the belief in your religion can answer those questions for you if you feel satisfied with that

i know probably no one's 100 satisfied with that but it you know there's other things that there's

other things in life besides that um on the other hand i think a lot of people have fallen into a

belief in science which i know enrages enrages the people on the science side when i talk like

this but uh i i do perceive it as another kind of belief system because

you

you know science is is great at a lot of stuff but it's not good at it's not necessarily great

at answering the big questions and to try to twist science in a way that it can answer those

questions is i think a bit unfortunate because right science is about uh humans measuring and

observing things and anything that we can't measure or observe is not part of our science

right so

when we're talking so basically it's sort of like

a concerted effort our best guess as to what's going on given what we can get our hands on

and our and our eyes on etc great and i'm not against that as i love science and i think that

science is super important and obviously has uh you know is is of a major importance

on many levels but in answer to that question i think it's a great question and i think it's a great

answer and in Music

um hence science not being perhaps great at answering the big questions anyway

So, for me, it's all about creating working theories and thinking about it, and there's also, going back to those nested level concepts, it seems that where we are now, we could possibly or probably be able to comprehend what's going on at the next level up.

The next level up would certainly not be the final truth, right? There's nested levels, right? The idea of nested levels, Russian dolls, glass onions, etc.

So, I think that it's probably better to focus on that next level up rather than the ultimate answer, which is probably somewhat inaccessible to us here, but maybe the next level up.

The next level up, we could make some progress on, and that would be amazing. We'd get a little more information. Will it answer the ultimate questions? No, but I think focusing on the next level up is a good strategy.

So, what kind of next levels are there?

So, in my working theories, where I've sort of combined all of my observations, hunches...

visions, etc., into a working theory, which can be dangerous, because if you make your own theories, you could come to believe them, fall into belief, which is where you're at 100%.

Yes, this is 100% true, but I would never want to get to that point.

So, the idea is that this world we're living in, this is my working theory, this world we're living in is sort of a constructed space.

And that there is a race of beings that are very similar to us in a lot of ways, but are much more advanced, that was responsible for creating the human race and creating this place for us to live, right?

Which is, in the context of a much larger multi-cosmos, many worlds like this stacked on top of each other.

So, the idea is that the next level up, in this case, is crossing over into another world, probably another...

another three-dimensional world, a volume that's stacked on top of this volume across 4D space.

And those that inhabit that next space up have the information, they know what this world is all about, and its history, right?

So, the next level up would be a lot like what we've seen in fantasy and science fiction, a world with more advanced technology, probably a variety of humanoid...

and other intelligent beings, kind of like we've seen in science fiction and fantasy, right?

Like in Star Trek or Star Wars, it's a world of multiple intelligent races, higher technologies, etc.

On the fantasy side, it's very similar, but with magic instead of technology.

But as we know, as Arthur C. Clarke has said, any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology and vice versa.

And that specifically this world was created because...

experience you could have living as a human being is very compelling and unique, but in order to fully engage the potential of humanity, you have to cut it off from certain information.

That is, if we knew that we were sort of a ragtag bunch of failed experiments living in a terrarium, a giant terrarium,

living in a giant terrarium, it would bug us.

It would annoy us, and all we would want to do is, like, get out, you know?

So that's why there's this information blackout in this world.

So that's one kind of theory of the next level up, right?

Which is, I would imagine, a series of worlds like this that you could access through dimensional portals, which are not as exotic as they sound.

It would simply be essentially ramps or shunts that would take you from one volume to another.

That said, another major type of next level is the concept that the world we're living in is akin to a video game, right?

And that we're living in a computer simulation, right?

And I know that some people in the realm of simulation theory are very fond of assuming that we are just artificial intelligences, right?

Like, that we aren't actually real beings at all.

To which I would counter, well, there's always the problem of consciousness.

Like, you can create a, you know, NPCs, artificial characters.

We know because we do this at some level in video games, but you can't give them consciousness as far as we know, right?

You can't give them the sense that they're observing it.

It takes a conscious being to do that.

So I would think that in this other theory, which is actually...

different, it could dovetail with the other theory, but this is kind of a different theory.

The idea that each of us exists at a higher level.

And we have decided to enter into this simulation, right?

And as we know, this has been illustrated to us in lots of, usually science fiction,

of going into some sort of a chamber or a pod, plugging in in some way,

and then your consciousness is transferred to...

either a video game character, computerized character, like in The Matrix,

or another biological entity, sort of like in Avatar.

They were able to do that, but they're also always in this chamber.

So, with that in mind, I have, right, just found, in a way, a strategy for investigation,

an angle of investigation, which is, well, I am...

myself, Frank Ebernora, the character in this simulation,

but then I'm also whoever or whatever I am on that next level up,

who's in that chamber, who's plugged into this world, right?

And if it is me, if, right, if it's my mind that's observing this,

could I glean information from my higher self?

So the idea is an angle of attack toward the mystery that...

well, this may be a good way, because it's me,

my own personal awareness, consciousness, and cognition, right?

I might be able to sort of drill upwards and get some information, right?

So, with this in mind, the idea is that, clearly, at the moment,

I am awake.

I'm conscious.

I'm doing the show right now, right?

I'm sitting on my porch here in New Jersey,

and I don't remember who I really am.

I don't know who I really am.

I have vague impressions that are sort of indistinguishable from,

perhaps, memories of dreams or flights of fancy of youth,

or possibly true memory fragments from the next level up,

but I just don't know.

So, I've been...

at times, and I think this is something everyone does,

is sort of an internal monologue or dialogue.

I am trying to talk to simply myself at the next level up

and glean information that way.

Of course, it could all be in my imagination.

I obviously understand that, but why not try?

And I came up...

I was doing it the other day,

and I had a very interesting exchange with my higher self,

and...

It's usually when I'm laying down to go to sleep,

I try this out, and...

It's...

It was a series of back-and-forth questions,

and one question I asked, I asked of my higher self,

was...

Again, in the context that I'm at the next level up,

I'm an individual entity, I'm a being,

of some sort,

but one thing we don't know is

what is the nature of ourselves at the next level up.

I mean, if you think about the Matrix,

I mean, Neo, Mr. Anderson,

is a human being who's in a pod,

who's in the computer simulation,

who's playing a character very similar to himself,

another human being that actually looks like him, right?

But it doesn't have to be that way, right?

Who we are at the next level up

might be more humans,

or it could be an entity of a different sort.

And that's been the impression I've been getting,

that at the next level up,

what I am is not,

again, through these internal dialogues,

which I am saying are most likely just

flights of fancy and imagination.

But, again,

in a scenario where there are very few angles of attack

toward the mystery,

this is one that,

as unlikely as it may be,

maybe,

information can be gleaned this way, right?

So, I've been getting the sense that

at the next level up,

I'm a different type of entity,

much different than human.

And this is the question that really kind of

produced an answer that was very confused.

So I was basically saying,

okay, so the next level up,

I'm some kind of being

having some kind of life,

and some kind of other world,

but at times,

I plug into some sort of system,

and then,

like a video game,

I become this character,

and through some mechanism,

while I'm Frank Nora here,

my memory of who or what I really am

is blocked in some way, right?

I know that's awfully convenient.

Oh, it's just,

there's a blockage,

so you can't remember.

Anyway, so the question was,

how much time do you spend

being Frank Nora?

You know what I'm saying?

Like, for example,

if I play a video game,

if I play like Fortnite,

I don't know,

I play a couple times a week,

maybe 40 minutes a week,

something like that.

So I'm like,

what's a similar,

like how much time are you spending

in this simulation,

and how much time are you,

or am I,

at the next level up,

just doing other stuff?

And that question

seemed to confuse my higher self

in this thought,

essentially a thought experiment.

Like, it was,

sorry, I'm watching cars pull out,

and yeah,

another car was pulling up

and had to stop anyway.

Distractions, distractions.

So I'm like,

how much time,

like on average,

like,

10% of your life,

20%?

And it was sort of like,

the answer was confusion.

Like,

the question didn't really make sense.

So,

I did receive some information,

sort of like,

well, what do you mean?

And I got a quick glimpse that,

at that next level up of existence,

the entity of the class

that I would be at the next level up,

they live across time, right?

They're living at once

in a huge span of past and future, right?

They're living all,

like, they're in the past and future all at once

in a way that we really can't understand.

And I sort of,

and, right,

we've seen this concept in,

for example,

Watchmen,

where Dr. Manhattan,

as an entity,

exists in the past,

present,

and future all at once

in a way that's kind of hard for us to understand.

And in a quite a more obscure comic book

by Grant Morrison called Zenith,

there also were entities that were existing

in the past,

present,

and future all at once.

So this was a little different

than what I was expecting.

So I reframed the question.

I'm like,

since you started

becoming engaged

with this particular simulation system,

where you could become

a character known as Frank Nora, me,

like,

what percent of time

are you spending on it?

And again,

the question kind of didn't translate.

I got some kind of sense that

there was a sequence of beginning,

finding out about this system,

engaging with this system,

becoming,

you know,

Frank Nora and the simulation.

But all I sort of saw was that

it was a tiny sort of,

a tiny,

a tiny sliver of time

across this vast span of time

that the class of entities

that apparently are involved here

exist in at once.

So it was so strange.

Time at the next level up.

Right?

And that I thought was surprising.

And again,

when I sort of have these sort of

internal dialogues or monologues,

whatever,

you know,

a lot of times you sort of,

you can sort of tell,

it's just,

you're just,

it's just in your imagination.

But sometimes stuff is kind of

not what you're expecting,

in which case

adds a little bit to the column

that there's some

legitimate communication going on,

as opposed to all being in your imagination.

Anyway,

I found that really interesting,

that,

right,

maybe at just one level up,

we are all entities

that are,

very different than human,

much more complex,

advanced,

and existing across time

at the same moment.

It's like,

very difficult to even conceive of.

But I thought that was kind of cool.

And I'll take any,

like it's,

it's so hard to gain

any meaningful information,

not insight,

but in information about,

right,

you sort of,

insight is sort of gleaned from information.

And I thought it was interesting.

Again,

take it for what it's worth.

And I certainly

mitigate my

perspectives on this.

And obviously it's most likely,

and I know I keep saying it over and over again,

but it's most likely

an imagination thing

as opposed to true information.

But you don't,

I don't know.

Right.

And I don't have to know.

In a true investigation,

right,

you never really know anything.

You're just trying to,

to gain

information.

Anyway.

It's kind of frightening

to think of that.

And I have actually

at times

had visions of,

glimpses of that type of existence

where you're existing,

where your

body,

if you had a body at all,

would be existing

in far more than three dimensions,

perhaps four or five

or six dimensions at once,

which is very difficult.

For us to conceive us with our,

conceive of with our human brains

and existing across time all at once.

Like, what does that even mean?

You know what I mean?

Like,

like if I'm here in 2024,

like,

am I also like in 1983

at the same time?

And,

well,

I guess you could say

if you were to look at

any person,

you would,

from a broader perspective,

you would see that,

you know,

I am here

and I also was in 1983.

But if you look at it

as one sort of construct,

like I kind of am already still,

I am still,

I am still there in a way.

I just can't really meaningfully

access in any way,

access 1983,

right,

personally,

other than through

what memories are left

from 83.

You see what I'm saying?

So,

but in a way,

we also exist

in the past,

present,

and future,

but we're only able

to sort of meaningfully

interact with

the few seconds

before and after the,

what this moment

of the present,

you know.

Yes.

Indeed.

And I think

the next topic here

does dovetail

with the past one

a little bit

because it's about

Tom Bombadil.

Yes,

the Lord of the Rings

character,

Tom Bombadil.

Right?

Who

is a mysterious

character,

right,

in the world

of the Lord of the Rings.

Now,

the reason I'm talking

about it is,

whoa.

Crows?

Where are they?

Crows.

I don't see them,

but if,

oh, there they are.

Okay.

Is that a crow?

It must be, right?

Is it?

No, maybe not.

It could be a blue jay,

which is a cousin

to a crow.

I can't see it.

It is a blue jay.

Wow.

They are corvids,

after all,

so they're the cousins

of blue jays.

I was talking

about something.

I don't speak bird

at the moment,

so unfortunately

I can't understand it.

So anyway,

yeah,

Amazon,

I talked about this

in the last episode,

is doing a Lord of the Rings

TV show called

The Rings of Power,

which is taking

great artistic license

and creating

essentially a prequel

to The Lord of the Rings

as a couple thousand years

beforehand,

but taking great

artistic license

from the sketchiest

of source material.

The show is not great,

but on episode four

of season two,

they bring in

Tom Bombadil,

and I thought it was

really a cool moment

because Tom Bombadil

is a very special character

who has not been

in any of the major adaptations

of Lord of the Rings,

right?

Not in the,

I don't believe he was

in the Bakshi one,

certainly not in the

Peter Jackson ones,

and people always,

you know,

they say that it's,

there's such a lot of story

in Lord of the Rings

that if you want to cut anything,

you're going to cut Tom Bombadil

because it's not really

vital to the rest of the story.

But,

it's an,

I think it's an interesting concept

because,

right,

the cosmology of

Middle Earth

and Arda,

Ea,

whatever,

the world that

Bilbo Baggins lives in

is really very fleshed out

in terms of gods

and origins and things,

entity types,

especially in the Silmarillion,

right?

It starts with

Eru Iluvatar,

and I'm probably not

pronouncing any of this stuff

properly,

Iluvatar,

who's the god of the world,

the total god of the world,

who then creates this,

this Valar,

kind of like a pantheon

of like 12 little gods,

right?

Sort of like

the Norse gods

or the

Roman gods

or the Greek gods,

right?

And then,

at the very beginning,

they sing this song

called the Aenolindala,

which is,

the song that they're singing

essentially is

the entire history

of the world,

right?

And,

one of the

Valar,

again,

I may be having a little,

I'm not a Tolkien scholar,

but I'm trying,

Melkor,

one of the

you know,

10 or 12 or whatever

of these Valar,

starts to sing

out of tune

and starts singing

his own song,

right?

And that's the,

that's the creation

of evil in the world.

Once the song is done,

then the world

comes into creation

and then the events

trans,

the events occur

that

were described

in the song.

That's the concept,

right?

So the Valar

live in this place,

I think it's called Valinor,

and then,

and they have

other beings

similar to themselves

but lesser

known as Maiar.

So these,

you can sort of

imagine them

as humanoid beings,

but they're sort of

advanced spiritual entities

of some sort,

right?

And then at some point,

Ilúvatar

creates the elves

and then he creates men

and

then I think it's,

is it Manwe

or Aula

who creates the dwarves,

right?

That,

and by the way,

I just read that

men or the humans

in Middle Earth

were,

and that includes hobbits

and stuff and halflings,

they were

given this gift

of death

where

when they die,

they pass into

an unknown space.

No one knows,

none of the other entities

know where these,

the souls

of the humans

actually go.

Whereas elves,

when they die,

they go to the

sort of an afterworld

kind of place

and it's sort of known

where they go,

right?

And dwarves,

I think the same thing,

but humans sort of

go to this unknown space.

The hell kind of,

who's this?

I have no idea

who that is.

Anyway,

let them leave a message.

Where were we?

Before I was so rudely

interrupted by that

wrong number.

Yeah,

so,

right,

then Melkor,

right,

starts to kind of

take over the world.

He's known as Morgoth,

more usually known

as Morgoth

and tortures

and twists elves

into the orcs

and I guess creates

trolls

in a mockery

of the Ents,

the tree people

and,

he's created all these

like negative entities.

What the hell?

What's going on here?

Ooh,

a message was left,

let's see.

That's so weird.

It was a wrong number,

but here's the transcription

that Google gave me.

It's a synchronistic

wrong number.

Here's what it says.

Hey, yes,

I'm calling

cause I just

used the ATM

on South 15th Street

and 16th Avenue

and it broke.

It broke my car

and it got stuck

in the ATM.

I'm assuming that means

card, not car.

Let me try again here.

Hey, yes,

I'm calling cause

I just used the ATM

on South 15th Street

and 16th Avenue

and it broke my card

and it got stuck

in the ATM

and the lady told me

to call this number.

Could you give me

a call back?

Can you believe

that?

A wrong number.

I mean,

obviously this is probably

some sort of scam

of some sort.

I mean,

it's probably not

a legitimate thing,

right?

It's probably

the entree

to some sort of scam

where,

oh,

can I get your ATM number?

Right,

it's one of those

kind of things,

but I was just talking

about the ATM machines

and I got this wrong number

about ATM cards.

What is South 15th Street

and 16th Avenue?

Jeez.

Well,

I mean,

let me look at the area code

what that,

what area that is

to.

Oh, sorry.

Not Hong Kong.

It's not 8,

8,

6,

2 is the area code.

8,

5,

2 is Hong Kong.

Really?

Oh,

that is a New Jersey area code.

Wow.

New Jersey's got a lot

of area codes.

We used to only have 201.

Now we have,

and 609 maybe.

Now we have so many.

Really?

It says Newark,

New Jersey.

Wow.

Yeah,

well,

we'll ignore that.

There's no way

that that's legit.

And even if it is legitimate,

I can't really help

someone with their card

stuck in an ATM machine.

Weird,

weird stuff.

Anyway,

let's get back

to Lord of the Rings.

Right,

so this is the kind

of universe

and then Sauron

is,

is so

the wizards

like Gandalf

and Saruman,

they're Maiar

that were sent

to Middle-earth

as inhuman bodies.

And so is Sauron.

He's a Maiar,

but he's a bit more powerful

than the others

who was the assistant

to the Valar Morgoth.

And we know the stories.

Initially,

Morgoth

tries to take over

and or destroy the world.

And Ilúvatar

actually has to

expel him from the universe

because he's too dangerous.

But then his assistant,

Sauron,

starts going nuts

and tries to take over

the world

and,

you know,

creates all these rings

to try to control everything

and yada, yada.

You know the whole story.

Gollum is there.

My precious.

Yes.

The brother Theodore Gollum

will always be my Gollum.

But anyway,

anyway,

Tom Bombadil

does not fit into

any of these categories.

No one knows

what Tom Bombadil is,

right?

He is said to be

the eldest entity

in the universe.

He does not fit in

with this scheme

of Ilúvatar,

the Maiar,

the Valar,

and anything else.

He just sort of exists

as this representation

of a wild card,

right?

And a lot of times

in systems

such as playing cards,

for example,

there's the Joker.

It's a card

that can represent

other cards.

It could represent anything,

right?

It's sort of,

in the system

but outside the system

at the same time,

right?

It's sort of like

maybe the connection

of the system

to the unknown.

Also in tarot cards,

of course,

we have Major Arcana.

Zero is the fool,

equivalent of the Joker.

And both the Joker

and the fool

carry sticks

of various sorts.

The fool carries a bindle,

which is a stick

with a little pack

at the end

with all of his belongings

in it.

A Joker carries

a marat.

Marat,

however you say that,

which is a little stick

with a replica

of his head at the top

as a jester or Joker.

I wasn't fascinated

by these wild card entities

carry sticks

of various sorts.

But anyway,

so Tom Bombadil

is kind of the same thing.

And I think Tolkien

wanted to have

a character in there

that didn't fit

into any easy categorization,

right?

That it's sort of like

those mathematical issues

where, you know,

like an incompleteness theorem.

Like you could never,

like what was that famous one?

Kurt Gödel, whatever,

in that book

Gödel, Escher, Bach.

Like there's some sort of sense

that there's an aspect

of mathematics

where we can never know,

you know.

It has something to do

with like the set of all sets

that don't contain themselves.

Things like that.

But it's just sort of,

I don't know what you would call it,

but I would call this topic

in a broader sense.

But the idea that there's

a thing in a system

that is both in the system

but yet not of the system.

And it makes this system

incomplete, right?

And it does also relate,

I think, to Twin Peaks,

the TV show,

because David Lynch

has said that he feels

that easy answers

are sort of an enemy

to depth in art, right?

So if you,

if you,

if you provide easy answers,

someone will engage with it

and then come to a conclusion

and then move on.

And yet if there's no easy answers,

if there is something

that can never be solved,

it can be a doorway

to deeper explorations, right?

In fact, as I talked about

on a recent episode,

the original Twin Peaks

was meant to have

this murder mystery

that was never solved, right?

But he was forced to solve it.

Because of the network

he was on ABC.

But then his,

a lot of his movies,

like I recently watched

what they call

the L.A. Trilogy

of Mulholland Drive,

Inland Empire,

and Lost Highway.

These are all movies

that are deeply unresolved, right?

And I think by design.

And leaves you wondering,

and of course,

Twin Peaks, The Return, right?

The 2017 season three

after the 1991 season two,

seemed that it was headed

towards some kind of resolution.

But the final episode

is completely unresolved.

And I think it's amazing

that he did that

and that it was, you know,

part of his philosophy,

So you could say that

Tom Bombadil as a character

is in some way adding

to the system of the, right,

the world building of Middle Earth.

I know Middle Earth

is just one part of Arda or Ea.

I don't know which is which,

but, you know, anyway.

So Tom Bombadil was sort of meant

to remain this sort of unknown thing.

Always a very tricky character,

but I think sort of a vital character

to the overall concept

of Lord of the Rings.

And it's unfortunate

that this character

has not been around

in any of the adaptations.

Now, of course,

there have been obscure adaptations,

like I think from Russia or something,

where they had Tom Bombadil in there.

And of course,

there's been illustrations

of Tom Bombadil

in the recent Magic the Gathering

Lord of the Rings sets

have had Tom Bombadil in there.

And his wife, Goldberry,

the river spirit.

Anyway,

they did introduce Tom Bombadil

in,

in Rings of Power

on the last episode.

And it was,

I would say,

fascinating to finally meet Tom Bombadil

in major media live action.

But it was also

a bit off in other ways.

Anyways, I had to pause here for a minute.

Anyways, so

Tom Bombadil in Rings of Power.

So this is like thousands of years

before he made it to the show.

Before he meets Frodo and the gang.

So first I'll just say

the implementation of the character

I thought was fantastic.

The casting of Rory Kinnear,

right,

was brilliant.

And he really does feel like

Tom Bombadil.

So the casting,

the direction,

and the outfit,

and everything else

seems spot on.

Rory Kinnear, by the way,

is the son of Roy Kinnear.

Who was in Willy Wonka.

I think he was Veruca Salt's father,

if I'm not mistaken.

I may be wrong.

Yeah.

Who did he play?

Let me see.

Henry Salt.

Yeah, so Veruca Salt's father.

I remember that one guy's like,

what business is he in, Salt?

Nuts.

And then the other person

took offense

because I guess nuts means like,

fuck you, or something.

Anyway, so it's kind of appropriate.

It's another sort of magical entity,

Mr. Willy Wonka.

I know they keep making

Willy Wonka movies,

but I just don't know

that you can really top that first one

for its creepiness,

its liminality,

and everything.

Yeah.

Anyway,

so that's the good news.

I think that

and this is, of course,

is spoilers for Rings of Power,

but I mean,

the whole thing is a bunch of,

it's a horribly produced,

it's a horribly written show,

so I don't know.

It's incoherent.

I don't know how much

you're going to even benefit

from knowing this stuff,

but anyway,

so one of the characters

in the show is known as the Stranger,

who is in a star,

or a wizard,

as I mentioned,

that was sent to Middle Earth,

but he sort of,

they took it very literally,

and he sort of,

fell from the sky like a meteor

and had lost his memory,

you know?

We never really,

I don't think it was ever described,

like how did Gandalf arrive

and everything,

and they're implying

that it's Gandalf a lot,

but we don't know yet.

In fact,

in season two now,

there are some implications.

There's another wizard who's evil

that doesn't seem to be Saruman,

so people are thinking,

that perhaps the Stranger

and the evil wizard

are the blue wizards

that are described very vaguely

in Tolkien's work,

who eventually go to the east

by the time of the Lord of the Rings.

Alatar and Palanda,

whatever their names are.

But anyway,

so the Stranger is this Gandalf,

they're strongly implying

that it's Gandalf,

or Mithrandir,

as he's known in other circles.

So he arrives,

he arrives at Tom Bombadil's house,

and Tom Bombadil is sort of like his Yoda,

kind of teaching him things.

That doesn't really seem to be,

it doesn't seem that Tom Bombadil existed

to sort of be kind of a guru to people, right?

He sort of was more unconcerned,

and he's also,

and it's cool,

because you do hear Goldberry singing briefly,

but then Tom Bombadil denies

that there's anyone there,

so it could be in the sense

that Goldberry was a river spirit originally,

and maybe she's sort of like a spirit at that moment.

I don't know,

but it was kind of cool

that they did mention Goldberry.

Anyway,

and then sort of Tom Bombadil talking about

there's the Dark Lords and Sauron,

and you will have to face Sauron.

Like he's so sort of like involved

in the politics of the time.

It felt very non-Tom Bombadil-like,

but overall,

I was very happy to see Tom Bombadil finally,

as I am a fan of that type of character

and that sort of conversation,

and now they're saying all the people are now,

a lot of people online are questioning,

what is he?

Is he God?

Is he,

people have thought that he's God.

Like I think it was pretty much established by Tolkien

that Ilúvata and Tom Bombadil

are two separate things, right?

Anyway,

I liked it that Tom Bombadil arrived.

I even re-watched the Tom Bombadil scenes,

but of course,

there wasn't much Tom Bombadil.

The rest of the episode was just,

just the same old crap.

A lot of Galadriel and Elrond and Gil-Galad.

I don't think he's,

I don't know if he's in that.

But anyway,

you know what I'm talking about.

The show is not great.

It's pretty bad.

Anyway,

on to other topics now.

Last episode,

I got on the topic of a podcast

from the early days of podcasting

called The Obtuse Angle.

Hosted by Steve DuPont.

And he did his show from 2005 to 2007.

And regularly interacted with this show,

The Overnightscape,

in that time period as well.

Voicemails,

emails,

et cetera.

Back when,

as he,

so I,

anyway,

I'm getting ahead of myself.

Anyway,

I tried to find him.

His website,

stevedupont.com is still up.

He's a nutritionist.

So I sent him,

an email,

and he wrote back.

So it's,

that was great.

So anyway,

Steve says he's still been listening

on and off to the show here,

The Overnightscape,

over the years.

And he said that,

like,

he sort of faced the same dilemma

a lot of us did back then.

And he said it was a wild time,

it was a wild time

because the early days of podcasting,

there was no corporate influence.

It was just all of us weirdos

doing our shows.

It was such a pure moment

that didn't last very long.

But he was there.

He was there as part of that early

2004, 2005 origin time of podcasting.

And we all kind of all knew each other, right?

And would interact with each other's shows.

And so it was such a great time.

It was kind of,

I don't know if something like,

obviously here on The Overnightscape Underground,

we interact with each other,

but I don't,

I'm not really engaged with any podcasts

outside of Onsug here.

But anyway,

so he said that,

you know,

as he was doing the show,

working so hard on it,

he saw his audience numbers

sort of never going up and dwindling.

And that's what I saw too at the same time.

I mean,

I worked so hard in those early years

to only to see my,

you know,

my desired audience level,

which I don't know,

what do they say?

You had to reach 10,000

before you could start monetizing this and that.

And I don't think,

I had a few thousand listeners in the early days,

but yeah,

I think it was very hard to

expand your audience back then as

perhaps,

you know,

the number of podcasts that were existing

was increasing fairly geometrically back then.

As I've talked about many times,

I was one of the very first podcasters

because I jumped on board,

I believe October,

it's October 4th,

was the date or the October 7th,

2004.

So I was probably one of the first

30 or 40 podcasters

that existed

to the point that

a major British newspaper contacted me,

they just contacted a random podcaster

in November, 2004 to interview

because there were so few out there

and there's a full page article

about the overnight scape in the

Times of London's weekend magazine.

And I do still have a copy of it.

My aunt was living in England at the time

and sent me a copy of it.

But of course,

as 2005 wore on,

and especially into 2006,

it just,

the number of podcasts just continued to grow

and it became very hard,

hard to sort of stand out in a sea of,

you know,

more and more and more.

That's just one way of looking at it.

And it can be very frustrating

when you work so hard on something

and not get the reaction you'd like.

You can't force other people to do things,

you know,

brings to mind that musician,

Brady Arnold,

remember Brady Arnold,

who back in the early,

like back,

I don't know,

10 years ago,

maybe I was looking for music to play on the other side.

And I found this guy,

Brady Arnold,

his, he had this whole catalog of like tons of albums

on the Internet Archive.

And he was sort of a prog rock musician.

Some of his stuff was really good and I played it on the show.

So then years later I went back to the Internet Archive

to find he had deleted everything

and somehow I was able to get in touch with him.

And he said he was so frustrated

that he wasn't getting enough fans

that he just deleted everything off the Internet.

I tried to make the point to him,

you know,

we're all kind of in the same boat as independent creators.

And why not throw your stuff back online?

Who knows?

You know,

maybe people in the future will get into it.

He's like,

I don't care about people in the future.

I only care about now.

And he's like,

I only have 10 people that really care about.

I'm like,

you know,

as that's actually not bad these days.

They have 10 people that really care about your stuff.

You know,

unless you're a corporate entity,

you know,

at this independent low level,

you know,

you got to take what you can get.

But he was,

I don't know.

He did put his stuff back on.

Then he took it all off again.

And then he put up one final thing on Bandcamp,

which was his final,

it was supposed to be his final statement that,

you know,

you people,

you can't have my music because,

you know,

you never became fans.

And he has,

I don't know,

I guess he couldn't handle the reality of it.

Now,

he is completely gone.

He's deleted everything,

his Bandcamp,

his Facebook.

I would have no idea how to get in touch with him at this point.

All that remains are a few fragments here and there.

He does still,

there is actually a listing page for him on progarchives.com,

which is a very prestigious prog rock site.

Anyone that finds that is going to find that they're not going to be able to get any of his songs anymore.

You know,

I,

I do have,

I did download the collection,

and when he uploaded it the second time,

I understand it's his,

he doesn't want anyone to reupload it,

but I'm going to continue to play his songs occasionally on the other side as I've always

been,

you know,

but just to say where he is and where Steve was and where I am and have been,

you know,

it's frustrating,

but,

you know,

I,

I want to keep the faith and really think about the future as well.

Right.

And,

uh,

I've sort of been able to keep my motivation up beyond the fact that I love doing the show here and I get that dopamine hit of accomplishment when I finish a show.

Yes.

Anyway,

so Steve,

uh,

yeah,

so he's,

he was,

uh,

saying that he can see,

you know,

he,

he was,

said some very nice words about how,

you know,

he respects how I keep doing the show and stuff.

And I asked him if,

if he would mind if I archived his show here in the Onsug Radio Archive,

and he said,

I would be glad to,

please do.

So,

I'll be working on that.

So,

uh,

it'll be inside this archive rather than outside the archive.

And,

uh,

I'd be happy,

I'd be very happy to,

to do that for him.

I haven't done an archiving project in a while,

but I,

that is,

they take a while,

but they,

I feel so satisfied when I'm done with them,

you know,

like Eddie's,

the early Eddie stuff,

you know,

his Ted cast and Conspiracast,

and,

um,

The Meandering Mouse,

and,

uh,

Into Your Head podcast,

all of these,

uh,

archiving projects to preserve stuff that would otherwise perhaps be lost to history.

So,

he also,

Steve also said he may have a few more,

uh,

lost promos he,

he could send.

That'd be cool.

So,

thank you,

Steve.

Thank you so much for,

uh,

agreeing to,

uh,

the archiving proposal.

Anyways,

um,

tomorrow,

The Three Weasels will be getting together again.

Yes,

me and Brian and Peter,

The Three Weasels,

are going to be going on another adventure.

That will be the next episode.

Um,

I sort of thought about holding off on this episode,

just to make it the next episode,

but I,

I had too much stuff kind of built up.

And,

I really can't get to this stuff on The Weasel episodes.

So,

if you don't know about The Weasel episodes,

it's where,

we've been The Three Weasels since the 1980s.

We get together and record our adventures.

And this time,

we're not going to Pennsylvania.

We're meeting up at the Livingston Mall,

where I,

I just was the other day.

Remember,

I,

I was talking all about the Livingston Mall,

and,

I was talking all about the Livingston Mall.

Actually,

exactly a week ago,

I went to Livingston Mall.

Uh,

it's a mall in Livingston,

New Jersey,

that is,

uh,

it,

it is,

uh,

nearing complete mall death.

It is a,

it's very sad to see,

as this is,

as I talked about extensively in the last episode,

you know,

it's a mall that meant a lot to me,

uh,

growing up in old,

for many years.

And to see it in this sad state is very,

very difficult.

But,

of course,

dead malls are one of the big,

uh,

things to visit on the Three Weasels,

uh,

adventures.

So,

it's very perfect.

Uh,

but I don't know how long Brian's gonna have.

So,

we're gonna have to see.

I mean,

we could go to the zoo.

I don't know,

did the weasels ever go to the zoo?

That might be cool.

We could go to Edison's Labs,

or we could go to,

uh,

Eagle Rock Reservation.

There's a lot of places we can go.

We,

we'll figure it out at that point.

Um,

I don't think either of them have been to American Dream,

so that might be cool,

too,

to go to American Dream.

But,

uh,

I don't know.

Uh,

and then,

of course,

Dave Kopperman is having a,

he's doing a,

uh,

show in,

uh,

Nyack,

New York.

Uh,

Dave Kopperman has been on this channel several times,

and he,

in fact,

was on Train,

Crap,

and Blood,

with me,

and Peter,

and my brother,

John.

It was,

uh,

essentially,

it was like a podcast,

but we recorded it to tape in 1991.

So,

Dave was on that.

So,

he,

if you listen to it,

it's in the,

it's in the archive here,

Train,

Crap,

and Blood.

Um,

it really was like a podcast,

but it was,

how many years before?

Uh,

13 years before podcasting started.

We did our own podcast,

not even knowing what it was.

I,

I think I,

I want,

I think I,

the genre I was calling it was a cassette magazine,

or something like that.

But it was like a show,

like we,

we did segments,

we did comedy bits,

we did,

it was like a,

a full show,

we did,

we did a lot of comedy.

So,

we'll,

Dave is a musician,

so he's gonna be doing a show.

So,

I'm not sure if I'm,

we're gonna be able to get up there,

but it'd be cool,

cause Peter knows him.

I don't know if Brian knows him.

I think Brian may know him.

Yeah,

I think Brian may know him.

But anyway,

I don't know,

Brian may have to leave before that.

We'll see what's going on.

I don't know.

But anyway,

Weasel Adventure,

coming up.

Anyway,

this episode is called,

Best of the Boardrooms.

And,

and,

look at the,

I love the,

I love the art I created for that.

Sometimes when I'm,

looking to create a show art,

I mean,

it's always,

I never know what the next show art's gonna be,

and the title.

The concept is,

you know,

each show,

and the,

the art,

in the square format,

is almost sort of like a,

a weird,

like,

LP,

or album cover.

Right?

And,

it is my main outlet for my,

graphic design,

and font design.

I do love a lot of these,

and I'm a huge fan,

and a huge,

fan with these,

obsessions.

In this case,

I found a,

an image I had made a while back.

I,

I do dabble with the,

AI stuff.

The AI image generators,

but,

honestly,

it's something that,

gives me a bad feeling.

So,

I don't really do it that much.

But this one was,

I think,

I was trying to create,

these weird,

tiki bar corridor images,

and it just wasn't really working out.

So,

I looked at it,

I'm like,

this image has,

has possibilities so i i did some you know like find outlines or something trace contours in

photoshop and give it kind of that neon look and then maybe subconsciously i don't think i was

deliberately thinking about that dream i had about three images on top of each other but i wound up

duplicating the image and increasing the size and overlaying it see there's kind of like a clock

thing in the middle there um and giving it this cool look and then there's a third increase that

was much lighter and fainter somehow it all just worked i really do love the way this looked this

looks so uh very abstract but very cool tiki bar corridor with a clock up there um so

the title is best of the boardrooms and um

this came

of itself

about because someone at work they were talking about obscure Japanese bands and yes I am I am

appreciative that I work somewhere where people can talk about obscure Japanese bands and they

were talking about this band called the boredoms that I've heard of I don't think I'm super

familiar with them but as soon as he said the boredoms I'm like oh that sounds like the board

rooms I'm like I wonder if there's ever a band called the board rooms in like the corporate

board rooms you know where the big wigs of the corporations hang out and make their decisions

so I looked it up and apparently there does not seem to have been a band as so far as I could

find called the board rooms I thought that's such a cool name for a band the board room so I always

love uh making up fake band names so um of course so many bands they wind up having the best of

albums so this would be the best of the board rooms of a band that doesn't exist

um so I typeset it in uh that font Peter Obscure there's a guy online called Peter Weigel from

Germany who uh has a ton of free fonts and this is one he created

just from scratch and he called it Peter Obscure and I really like it

and for to separate the overnight scape and best of the board rooms I I just wanted to put a uh

a club symbol from the playing cards in there so I found that in the Zapf Dingbats font

which is still it's still a thing even in 2024 Zapf Dingbats still exists it's amazing

and I put that on top there and that's kind of the thing that I've been doing for a long time

the story of this it's just weird but you could say best of the board rooms sort of

I don't know relates to all of the modern conspiracy theories that all these corporations

are colluding in some way and in the board rooms they're sort of making these decisions

all so vague but anyway that's the story behind it

so on Wednesday I did go in to work in New York City but I did not record

because I did a show on Tuesday and I don't feel like every time I go in I have to record

you know it's kind of actually cool for me to go in without recording because I'm so used to recording

when I'm going in um it was a nice day and I for lunch I went up to um Xi'an Famous Foods

that uh western Chinese place and uh it was okay it's just kind of yeah it was like uh

the seating area is very limited so you have to like sit next to other people and stuff and the

food is I don't know it's it doesn't seem to be so good but it's kind of ok I'm gonna cover it up

but I'm gonna cover it up I'm gonna come over now so it's 4

but I'm gonna cover it up I'm gonna cover it up I'm gonna cover it up I'm gonna cover it up

seem to be quite as good as it used to be pre-pandemic but it's still pretty good so anyway

i figured i'd walk up to rockefeller center after that just to wander around and um they've done a

lot of work at rockefeller center especially that lower level mall section so it's not by rough

trade records it's a really cool record store which which has mostly vinyl records but they

do also have some cds and cassettes as well um it's a very cool place um if you're looking to

buy records it's an actual record store not like a sam goody or something well sam goody doesn't

exist anymore but you know what i'm saying like there's still you can still buy records at

barnes and noble the barnes and noble on uh on uh fifth there still has a few records i think

but anyway

um then i went down into the lower section and it's so cool because there's seating there's a

seating area in the stairwell i have to remember to try and sit there sometime that's so cool that

there's a seating area inside the stairwell at rockefeller center but um as i'm walking along

there's this new pizzeria called ace's pizza and it it it is uh on on one hand they have a

takeout

uh

area then the other hand they have a sit-down restaurant but it's meant to look like a 1970s

pizzeria with the wood paneling walls and everything and here's what someone said about it

here aces pizza which often draws a crowd for chicago style pizzas at rockefeller center

must have gotten tired of having people camped outside the restaurant devouring their delicious

square slices they now have a dining room directly across from the pie shop a sneak peek reveals

a somewhat cheesy space with 1970s style wood paneling red and white checkerboard table cloths

and an old tv sitting on the counter count us in i have no idea where this where this come from

city tour new york and this is from january 16 2024 so just this year yeah i was very i was sort

of struck by like how perfect it looks

like that old 70s style interior so comfy and welcoming why i i i've never seen anyone do that

before where it's in a news place but it's completely retro style interior i wasn't able

to really fully research aces pizza i'm thinking maybe it's a place that has existed maybe in

brooklyn or something and it actually looks like that in their original location and they're

reproducing that in the in the new locations

you know i thought

thought that was interesting thought they have anything vegan for me but hey vegan stuff is hard

to find these days but anyway then i went out then it continued forward to where the skating

rink is but now you can kind of like walk out there and it's uh and there's a there's a retro

arcade there it's called arcade like r hyphen c-a-d-e arcade and it has a bunch of really good

old machines they have pinball machines there and stuff and uh just the only thing is uh they

had a change machine which took cash and i didn't have any cash on me they're like well

you can go buy tokens at this other store on the other side with your with a credit card and

i was like yeah i don't need i don't need to play any games but it was cool to see

so all this retro stuff you know so to me the retro stuff is like a kind of a double-edged

sword it's sort of like obviously my generation generation x

uh

is older now nearing retirement some of the older ones maybe not yet but you know what i'm saying

and uh so i think like we're now like i think gen x is now like the grandparents to a lot of

young kids right and so i guess stuff that appeals to generation x as old people like

old 70s style pizzerias and old 80s arcades and stuff it sort of makes sense but at the same time

it's fun to look backwards and it's it is hard for the present to compete with the grandeur of

the past of the 70s and 80s and 90s in a lot of ways but it would perhaps be preferable that

there could be cool stuff in the present that's so cool that and engaging that you don't need to

look backwards you can look here and ahead you know so i think it is in a way um aspects of pop

culture have diminished greatly

uh since since those time periods and we're sort of forced to look back

i don't know yeah like i said i i love to see that kind of stuff but at the same time i'm sort

of worried about the pop culture of the present

and in other news i was very happy to see an older tv show is back available on streaming

the show's continuing to be on stream and i'm very happy to see that the show's continuing to be on stream

right and i watched this show continuum back when it was first on and it was on from 2012 to 2015 so

that's kind of a long time ago now and afterwards i found it was not available anywhere online it

was impossible to find and just i think last week i saw that it is now back on prime video

amazon prime video which many people have and i must strongly recommend this show continuum

um the premise is that

in 2017

in the future

the world is ruled by the corporations

but there are these freedom fighters these terrorists

who um

blow up a ton of buildings kind of a la

very similar to the last scene in the fight club

and they're caught and they're

sentenced to be executed but

um and and this uh

woman cop from the future from 2077 named cameron

she's known as a protector and she works for the corporations

um and and this uh

is there to sort of oversee the execution of these terrorists

but turns out that they actually

we're able to struggle to and travel device in

and i guess whatever energy was gonna be used to disintegrate them or whatever to execute

them being powers to time travel but

and this

and then cameron runs over so the terrorists and camera and get sent back

in time

they'd intended it is now five years back in time i guess too

alter the timeline and

prevent them from being uh executed or whatever but they go back in time like 60 70 years to 2012

right and and i believe they're in vancouver british columbia i think that's exactly where

they are and uh so now um cameron is able to communicate with this guy

with she has this super suit and these implants in her brain that can she can communicate and stuff

and it turns out the guy that invented all that stuff is just like a teenager at this point and

just invented the first prototypes of this stuff so he's sort of like the he's sort of like uh

her partner like with all the computers and stuff and all the hacking and the terrorists are like

they're like super violent and stuff and she winds up uh you know getting in with the police

department and it's just a great show i remember really loving it the first episode was a little

shaky but then by the second episode it gets better i'm so happy this show's back it's a

great time travel show and you know it it has a particular

kind of production style overall like it's it's definitely produced in canada um it's a bit low

budget um but it's the only word i can use is workmanlike the writing i mean it's sort of

genre fiction you know it's time sci-fi crime show um but it's it's done in a way that is

sort of a traditional storytelling

it's not deep it's not trying to like be an art piece but it's just really great characters and

situations and sort of like how tv used to be right that sort of workmanlike concept none of

the insertion of social messages or woke stuff just an attempt to make sort of a good pulpy

sci-fi crime kind of show and i think in terms it's in a way it's

what are you setting out to do right they obviously set out to make a somewhat humble

science fiction tv series and i think succeeded greatly at that it wasn't trying to be anything

more and i think the same i don't know if it's the same production teams or the same area

like they did another show called dark matter about these criminals that wake up on a spaceship

with their memories lost very similar situation really well done workmanlike i wish there was

another word i could use for this type of tv show but i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't

want to see this one i don't want to see this one i don't want to see this kind of thing

i've always wanted to see this kind of thing it doesn't have to be a tv show

and there's other shows that are sort of similar they're all sort of made in canada to save money

and i guess orphan black at some point about the clones but i don't know that show kind of

it was similar but i don't know that that show kind of got weird and i think all these shows

kind of struggle with the endings i remember i had i don't clearly remember the end of

continuum but i think it kind of yeah i guess i don't know how great i'm trying to remember it

i'm re-watching the whole

series now so um it does also remind me very much perhaps not the canada angle but uh 12 monkeys

the tv series not the um not the movie really again really well done and in that same vein

very workmanlike and um another show that i absolutely love i think it's on netflix it's

called travelers eric starring eric mccormack um another great workmanlike time travel tv series

well worth watching yeah 12 monkeys was fantastic i would i would definitely think of re-watching

that one as well just tv shows that are sort of not burdened by trying to be artistic or trying

to have social messaging just pure escapist fun and storytelling which seems to be a rarity these

days i guess you got to go back to the 20 teens to kind of get that kind of stuff before everything

started going south

in the 2020s i don't know

again if they had applied that formula to like lord of the ring stuff it would be fantastic

but yeah that's it's not the lord of the ring show could not be further

from being workmanlike it's tortured trying to cram too much into too little space

and again as i always say if you want to have social messaging as long as it doesn't take away

from the tv show fine but it it fine

i have found that it seems that

the social messaging is the most important thing and a coherent story

is much less important to whoever's putting these things together so it's very sad

anyway continuum amazon prime 2012 to 2015 most recommended

and then i saw this movie that i really was not aware of i have to admit i didn't even know

anything about it i didn't even know anything about it i didn't even know anything about it i

didn't even know anything about this movie

one from the heart by francis ford coppola 1981

um really relevant because his new movie megalopolis is going to be available for

the general public soon ish i think in a few months and um really looking forward to that

um apparently it's an audacious experimental film

widely varied uh reviews of megalopolis but i'm definitely gonna go see it when the opportunity

arises one from the heart is very similar it's a hugely ambitious movie that was an enormous bomb

and you know i was pretty young in 1981 i was like a young teenager so i don't think it was

really on my radar and it just bombed badly at the back at the box office though in subsequent

years it's gotten a sort of cult status so i think that francis ford coppola and whoever they

recreated the movie re-edited it added some lost footage and re-released it earlier this year and

i still hadn't heard of it called one from the heart reprise right and um this is now available

on the criterion collection which i also subscribe to with a lot of great movies on there so i watched

it and my god this is a uh interesting movie so it stars uh let me get the cast it's an amazing

cast really uh let me see so it stars terry gar and frederick forest as as this couple living in

las vegas and the story what there is of it is that they uh are tired of each other and they're

they want to

try they both have different dreams of what they want their life to be so they each find this other

partner terry gar finds raul julia and frederick forest finds nastasia kinski if you remember these

people and each of them also has a best friend um terry gar's best friend is laney kazan what

was she and she's been in a lot of stuff right laney kazan i recognize the name i guess she was

in a lot of stuff

a lot of musicals she was in my big fat greek wedding yeah i mean i recognize her i just don't

really know a lot of stuff that she was in um and uh frederick forest's best friend is

harry dean stanton oh my god what a great cast uh except for frederick forest okay because

i have to say i that name did not ring a bell and i didn't even recognize the guy

and he is the weak link of this movie he i don't know if you've seen the movie but he's a great

I find him completely unlikable and unrelatable as a character.

Terry Garr is fantastic, but I do feel that the script is super sketchy.

The story, if there even is a story, is very kind of lightweight.

And I can sort of see her struggling to make something of this character.

But Frederick Forrest is not likable in the least.

He's very off-putting, and apparently he was in a lot of Francis Ford Coppola's movies,

but I really don't know of anything else he was in.

Anyway, and Nastasja Kinski here is very young and beautiful and full of life

and very much sort of the brightest point in the movie.

I'd say Terry Garr also was huge back in that time period,

really a sex symbol of the time, of a type that,

I don't know,

I don't think that type of sex symbol would work anymore.

But she was sort of like the girl next door.

Remember, she used to go on Letterman.

Letterman was always flirting with her.

She was a, and then, I don't know, she sort of vanished.

I don't know what happened to Terry Garr, but she was huge back then.

She's actually, in this movie, she's like naked a lot in the movie.

A lot of topless scenes and near-naked scenes

where she's completely naked just wearing panties.

That's weird, yeah.

So, there's almost no story, right?

This couple are tired of each other,

so they hang out with their best friend,

and then they find these other lovers,

and they spend a night with them.

Terry Garr wants to go to Bora Bora with Raul Julia.

I don't remember the actual characters' names,

but then she decides not to, and then they get back together.

So there's really no story,

and the characters are generally very unlikable.

So what is it about this movie that people like?

Well, instead of going to Las Vegas to film this,

Francis Ford Coppola had these huge sound stages,

I guess Zoetrope Studios is what it was called,

and he recreated, he created everything inside these sound stages, right?

All of Las Vegas, all of the houses,

all of the sets inside the sound stage.

And he, as part of the concept of the movie,

you can, when you're looking like on the street of Las Vegas,

you can clearly see the ceiling of the sound stage,

and it's not meant to be hidden.

He said it's sort of meant to be something like an old movie musical,

right, a theatrical production.

So the ceiling and the edges of the,

of the sound stage is meant to be seen,

which is really kind of a cool concept.

So I think it's this side of it.

Beyond that, the set designs, the cinematography,

and everything is absolutely amazing, beautiful, and unique.

I've never seen anything else like it.

It's a musical, but the actors don't sing.

There's a soundtrack written by Tom Waits, okay?

Now, I've never been a big Tom Waits fan,

but there's something really interesting about this.

So it's Tom Waits.

And he's singing with Crystal Gale, who I didn't know.

I may have known it in the past,

but she's Loretta Lynn's younger sister, Crystal Gale.

So a lot of the song's just Tom Waits,

you know, because he has his voice kind of like this.

So it's Tom Waits singing, and then sometimes in a duet,

or sometimes it's just Crystal Gale singing.

All this original music for the whole thing.

Super ambitious.

And there's also miniatures.

Like, the credit sequence has all these miniatures,

and then there's, like, this desert

where there's, like, naked women covered with sand.

Like, these sand dunes, but they are actual naked women

that have been covered with sand.

And it's, like, this amazing vision,

but it's completely half-baked, right?

And there's a lot of making-of stuff for this movie,

One from the Heart, and I never saw the original.

I don't know what was changed for the reprised version,

but Francis Ford Coppola talking about striking out,

taking risks,

not playing it safe,

and that, I guess he had already done the Godfather movies,

and now he does this movie, which was a huge risk,

and at the time didn't pay off.

I almost got the sense that, I mean, the story is,

there's really no story.

It almost seemed like he was dismissive of having to have a story

because of the grandeur of the scale of the thing.

But would it kill you to have an actual story?

And then, as I said,

I feel like Frederick Ford,

who is a big downer and a big cooler, as they say in Vegas,

really, to me, sort of would be an impediment to re-watching it

because I just don't like the guy.

I don't like the way he looks.

I don't like anything about his character.

And the characters themselves seem very selfish.

At least the main characters seem very selfish, self-centered,

and they're like assholes, basically.

So anyway, Raoul Julia is, and Harry Dean Stanton,

his family,

is fantastic in anything.

And he's like this weird scumbag best friend.

It's awesome.

With this big 70s outfit and stuff.

Raoul Julia is sort of a singer who's also a waiter.

A bit of a sketchy character, but he comes across better.

These characters are almost sort of like the fantasy

of the ideal partner for the main couple.

But as I said, Nastassja Kinski, who she,

and I didn't really realize this,

but she's the daughter of Klaus Kinski,

a very famous German actor who apparently was

a monstrous, literal psychopath.

And one of her sisters wrote a book about how

the father sexually abused the daughter.

And Nastassja Kinski said she was able to avoid that,

but the father was violent and unpredictable.

It's very weird stuff.

But anyway, and she was big at the time.

She was in, was she in that movie Cat People and stuff?

And I just remember,

one of those impossibly obscure shows,

early cable television,

there was a show called Not Necessarily the News

that I loved on HBO.

I don't think you can get that anywhere anymore.

And they just did tons of parodies.

And I think there was like one of the parodies

was of Nastassja Kinski doing an ad,

an ad for perfume or something.

And the idea is that she was like stupid.

I'm Nastassja Kinski.

No, I'm Nastassja Dytarski.

I would love to find her.

I would love to find that sometime.

Remember Not Necessarily the News?

No, Rich Hall was on that one.

Like he was on everything back then.

Anyway, anyway, so she is a circus performer.

And she, in her presence,

she's doing actual circus stuff.

She's doing real tightrope walking.

And she's like on this, it's cool.

Like there's a really cool set

where there's like this neon boneyard.

And there's, you know, the 76 gas stations,

there's an orange ball with a,

like a blue 76 on it.

She's like on top of the ball,

but walking along with it,

which takes incredible balance.

So she actually must have learned

all these circus skills to be the circus performer.

And one of the signature images

is her dancing in a giant martini glass,

which is interesting because

at one podcast event

that was also in Second Life,

I created a giant martini glass

to hang out on, on top of.

So great minds think alike.

Me and Natasha Kinski with giant martini glasses.

Yes.

Anyway,

she is really quite remarkable

and a real bright point in the,

and that whole set of the neon.

And then he has,

there's all these cars stacked up

and he's directing them like a,

like a symphony orchestra.

It's weird and amazing.

And so what a weird, interesting movie

that again,

it's puzzling how,

how it can get made

with such a script like that.

You could easily imagine,

right?

The whole thing being a hundred times better

with all of the incredible aspects of the production

with just a bit more of a coherent story.

You know what I mean?

I mean,

it does seem that

a story is the hardest thing to come up with,

whereas you'd kind of think innocently

that it would be the easiest thing to come up with.

And all these sets and,

you know,

massive productions and the cinematography

would be the hard stuff.

But no,

having a coherent story seems to be the hardest of all.

As we can see from all the recent TV shows,

like the Rings of Power.

Get out of here.

But I do,

I do think I'm going to need to rewatch it

because it's interesting.

I went back to the original Siskel and Ebert review from 81

and Gene Siskel had seen it twice.

Roger Ebert had only seen it once.

And he said,

so Roger Ebert kind of had the same complaints that I had

and gave it kind of a thumbs down.

But Gene Siskel's like,

you know,

I saw it twice.

And I,

after the first viewing,

I kind of agree with you,

Roger.

But after seeing it the second time,

he's like,

I think there's something here.

And he gave it a thumbs up.

And he also,

I guess in 1986,

I think he,

he,

it was,

it was one of the lost treasures.

Because the thing is,

I really never heard of this movie.

And it seems like the kind of movie I'd be very interested in.

But it just,

I guess,

reference-wise,

it was such a bomb that,

and I'd never been a big,

specifically a big Francis Ford Coppola fan.

So,

anyway,

check it out.

And with that,

I'd like to say,

thank you so much for patching in to this episode of The Overnight Escape.

Much appreciated.

I am your host,

Frank Edward Nora,

here in Nutley,

New Jersey,

on Friday,

September 6th,

2024.

And yes,

the Weasel Adventure is tomorrow.

That'll be the next episode.

It should be good.

We'll see.

Yeah,

so we're here in,

the project's name is OnSugRadio.

O-N-S-U-G,

that's Overnight Escape Underground,

is another name for this project.

O-N-S-U-G is the first letter of Overnight Escape Underground,

right?

Sort of an acronym,

kind of,

kind of deal.

OnSugRadio.

It's a book,

right?

It's a book that you can buy an actual physical copy of.

Just go to,

OnSug.com

and you can buy a copy of this book.

500 pages,

color covers,

black and white interior,

and it is all the shows we've done,

we've done for over 20 years now.

Massive archive,

nearly 15,000 hours long.

We're a non-commercial project.

It's all free forever.

And in fact,

you can download a free PDF of the book,

which has additional content.

So it's over 4,000 pages long.

Describes all the shows in the project here.

Over 12,000,

individual episodes.

There's really nothing else like OnSugRadio.

And yes,

we are perhaps stuck in a bit of obscurity here in the present,

but our goal is to preserve these shows for the people of the future.

As I've been saying,

I do think here in 2024,

we are still living in a golden age,

even though we don't realize it,

right?

I don't think anyone appreciates a golden,

golden age when they're in it,

right?

But I think we're in a golden age because we have just gone through the amazing 20th century.

And now we're in the early 21st century,

but now the music,

the movies,

everything you can sort of access much easier online.

And this is before the AI takeover or not the takeover,

but you know,

AGI,

which is going to change everything.

The new,

the next level of artificial intelligence.

That's why we're still in a golden age.

So all the shows here that are talking about it.

And again,

on the channel here,

we're not,

we're not trying to fit into the world of podcasting in 2024.

You know,

this is a very unique concept for a project.

The show I've just done,

the style of show I've just done is exactly what I want to do.

I love doing it.

And I don't think anyone else is quite doing it this way.

There's so many other shows on the channel there that are pretty much on the same wavelength.

Again,

15,000 hours.

That's over a year and eight months.

That's over a year and eight months of audio.

And we're adding more all the time.

And I do think it will be of interest to people in the future because though there's a lot of podcasts out there,

I think that as a,

as a huge body of work on sub radio is going to stand apart from everything else out there and be a completely unique work embedded inside this book that people in the future will like.

Um,

like that's kind of what I'm hoping for.

Um,

your voice can be in this archive.

There's a show put out each month by Dave in Kentucky called overnight scape central.

The 10th of each month is the deadline and it's coming right up.

It'll be the 10th soon.

You can just go to on sub.com,

find the latest episode of overnight scape central,

and it'll show you the next topics.

There's three topics that are usually related.

You can record on one,

two,

or all three of them.

Send your audio into Dave K Y at mail.com.

That's D.

A V E K Y at M a I L.com.

And he'll put it on the show.

And we all would love to hear from you.

The next,

uh,

coming up on September 10th,

2024,

the topics are heart on your sleeve,

head up your ass and tongue in your cheek.

So those,

uh,

I'm sure you have a lot to say about those phrases and,

we'd love to hear what you have to say.

So please send it in.

Like I said,

there's nothing else like this project.

There's so many different aspects.

I mean,

Overnight escape central itself,

which is,

which is in its 14th year.

Now,

if that was all we had would be amazing landmark show of every topic under the sun,

an amazing show,

right?

But we have so much more than that.

This show,

the overnight escape that's been going for over 20 years and so many other shows out there.

It,

this is a unique world of audio.

Please check it out.

And also we have what's coming up right now.

A little subdivision.

A sub-universe of audio content that is always I would say always the same,

but always different,

right?

It's a collection of found audio music and audio clips from the far reaches of the internet.

Some things that are no longer available anywhere else,

but here there's always something to enjoy.

Sit back,

relax,

and let's head on into the fake Las Vegas of the mind known as the other side.

She sat upon the stair,

flowers in the hay,

bright in the teary and bright.

Walked past the house of gray,

no solace there,

only an echo of silence.

I don't want to benefit.

I can't find no comfort there.

Now she sat upon the rug,

conversing with some thug,

who argued to her point of departure.

The eyes,

getting lit,

as she tries to translate that she is Catherine the Great.

I don't want to benefit.

I can't find no comfort there.

A painted lady full of wine is crying all the time.

Just to break the silence.

The eyes of me that's fading away at her looks glad to break.

The light is in ca弟 n'est

I don't want to benefit.

With your flowers in the air

Rattling up to me in the air

Joyce! You've got a great pair of legs!

A smooth look is a sexy look

And it's yours with Undie Legs

Pantyhose with a stay-foot panty

Undie Legs go under the clingiest of clothes

Erasing wrinkly panty lines forever

All that's left is you

Stretching, bending, standing

There's one pantyhose that's always been

Nothing, it's a great pair of legs

And you find it's real

Watch soaked Yello

And starboard Erase your eyes

There's not space to let go

Clear and playing

What a hill you've grown

Sc Dracula You've grown

True Robably picturesque

Rattling up to me in the air

I mean you've got a pair of legs

Thank you.

Welcome to Random Access on the air, once again.

We present another flask of weird.

Wow, that show again, I thought they were off for good.

Yeah, we wish, sometimes.

But we're also known as frothing at the beaker to some of our fans and followers.

Every other week we are, anyway.

Hey, do we have a special event here tonight, or is this, what?

Uh, meaning?

Uh, meaning we've got a couple people lounging around outside the studio,

and another one who's about to be beamed down, uh, from, uh, across,

across, across town bus or something, uh.

Yeah, or maybe we should, maybe we should introduce ourselves first.

This is Jerry Majewski, and your voice?

Hi, I'm Chuck Isle.

This thing says, tapes.

I can identify a lot of strange things.

.

Thank you.

Time now for electric coffee.

Yes, it's the electric coffee show with your host blending in with the radio, Peter Stencil, or Helen Highwater.

Good music, good information, and occasional good taste with every sip you take.

So wake up, Twin Cities and beyond.

Here comes electric.

Coffee.

Smell that coffee?

Mm-mm-mm.

Yes, indeed, you're listening to electric coffee.

My name's Peter Stencil.

With me here in the studio, believe it or don't, is Jerry Modjeski.

And I happen to bring in...

Lots of fun music with him and his lips.

A glib set of lips, and we're happy that those could make it.

Well, thanks.

It's not been the first time people have said things about me were glib, but my lips, that's a new one on me.

Well, I know I wouldn't want to buy a used set of dishes from you.

Let's put it that way.

I've got enough cracked pots at home as it is after I've washed the dishes.

And waxed lips to boot.

Oh, yeah.

And the boots shine with every kiss.

Those who still in bed are dreaming, what can I say but long, tethered lines of an imaginary airplane driving home with full force into the little red school shed over there on the corner.

Name of the show is Electric Coffee.

My name is Peter Stencil, and I'm glad to have Jerry Modjeski as my guest this morning.

People might recognize me, my name from having been the meister behind Dick Future and his fabulous dancing stool as heard a couple months ago on your show.

Normally I'm associated with partner Chuck Isle.

I almost feel like a naked Shakespeare sitting here without him at my elbow.

Well, that's why you took your clothes off.

Although, now, I kind of opened up this notebook here and I saw this cluster of eyeballs with a crew cut on it and a turtleneck sweater.

Now I don't feel...

I don't feel so... so lonesome.

Hell never sounded so good.

Well, it better be good.

As we left the Earth, the weather was stormy with heavy overcast.

But the report from the New Jerusalem is, as it always will be, a beautiful day.

Without a club.

Thank you.

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All your true feelings you get on high

If the sky is red when we go out tonight

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Dirk save the beautiful Princess

Daphne trapped inside

the Dragon's Lair.

It's cold, but the weather

won't take

my advice

Still

the water flows

beneath

the ice, and

I fall away and I fall away

Thinking of nothing on this January day

It's warm and it's empty and it's everything nice

A place for my nonsense and my heart and life

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I've gone a quest to share my magical pets with the world

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Captain Pentatonic with the gin and tonic

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Spaghetti stains are on my tie

Turn the corner, try to boost

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