The Signal: Season 10, Episode 6: Signal: The Movie
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The Signal: Season 10, Episode 6: Signal: The Movie
you're listening to news from the verse brought to you by the people who made the signal i'm
bendia dale
adam baldwin summer glow and alan tudyk will be attending megacon at the orange county convention
center in orlando florida usa adam allen and summer will be signing autographs as well as
providing photo ops with prices listed on the convention website megacon runs from april 10th
to april 12th 2015 though summer will be appearing saturday and sunday only
morena baccarin and gina torres will be appearing at emerald city comic-con both morena and gina
will be available for all three days of the convention and will be signing autographs and
doing photo ops emerald city
comic-con will be held at the washington state convention center in seattle washington usa
from march 27th to march 29th 2015 tickets are available on the convention website
the comic book serenity leaves on the wind has become the new york times number one bestseller
for hardcover graphic novels for the week of december 7th 2014 meanwhile serenity leaves
on the wind has also won the goodreads best graphic novel and comic for 2014
rather than
rallying sales the goodreads awards are based on review by readers
a new book has been announced for march 15th 2015 the book is called firefly revisited essays on
joss whedon's classic series edited by michael d goodrum and philip smith the book compiles essays
that cover the themes of the show the historical relevancy as well as the music and language that
went into its making the book will be available in both print and digital formats
for seventy five dollars or forty four ninety five in pounds sterling and pre-orders are
currently available
qmx has announced they will be releasing a film scale replica of serenity the replica
will be one to one twenty fourth scale and will have a steel skeletal structure as well
as an internal brass structure for the main engine rotation it will contain over a hundred
leds powered by a twelve volt power system and can be controlled by using a wireless
remote for various functions
the replica will retail for just under seven and a half thousand dollars u.s
and more details can be found on the qmx website
and finally the signal podcast has ended
we don't need bullets mr chris
what's that a warranting
what's with the blue gloves
oh my god
romana romana
brown goats will rise again
one of the recurring themes in firefly is the conflict between civilization and savagery
here are a few tips on good communication green from captain reynolds
we suggest two copies of the movie and series one at home and one to let
of course things don't always go smooth and random scenes cropping up unexpectedly can
keep players on their toes
dear river which came first the chicken or the egg curious scientist
the egg
it as a change of plans. And now Carrie's
going to be taking the spot as my co-host.
Yay me!
Congratulations! Yay!
They're pictures of brown coat astronauts
Steve Swanson and Sunita Williams.
And they are just floating around in weightlessness
along with the Serenity and Firefly DVDs.
My computer? No, I need
that for the holiday special. We will find a way
to do the holiday special. You can't stop
the city.
Carrie Haley.
Producer. Six shows.
Editor. Five segments.
Writer. Eight segments including three
big damn test kitchens.
Reader. Twenty-six segments including
three big damn test kitchens.
Five how to host a shindig
and five broadwaves.
Actor. Sixty-three segments including
eight Badger's World, sixteen
The Shipworks, and twenty-six The Terraformers.
Interviewer. Over a hundred
interviews. Host.
Over a hundred shows.
Hello.
Hello. Hey Carrie.
How are things in Portland? Oh, hey
Miranda. They're fine, I guess.
Oh? What are you up to?
Lamenting. Lamenting?
The end of The Signal. I lost
all of my equipment during the last show.
Oh. Well,
did you know I started a blog? I mean,
that is to say, The Signal started a blog.
Or, I started
a blog for The Signal. I did know that.
It's at serenityfirefly.com
slash blog, right?
Yeah, it may not be a podcast,
but at least we can still talk to people
and tell them about stuff, you know?
Firefly, what we're doing.
We can post articles and emails
and people can comment. Well, that
all sounds great, but I'm still gonna miss the podcast.
Hey, have you seen The Verse?
What do you mean, have I seen
The Verse? Oh, you mean
the fan film. That's exactly what I mean.
It is awesome.
Yeah, I saw it. It is pretty awesome.
Hey, weren't you gonna interview that guy?
The guy that made it? Well,
Les and I had plans to interview Julian Higgins,
but we never did because, like I said,
I lost all my equipment.
Ouch.
Well, anyway, I gotta go. Talk to you
soon. Yeah, thanks for calling.
It would have been a great interview.
Well, today on The Signal, we are
very excited to have an interview
with Julian Higgins, who brought
us the fan film, The Verse.
The Signal, Julian. Hey, thanks for having
me, Les. Yeah, welcome.
Hey. So, my first
question is, Higgins, Moon,
any relation?
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I've
had that question a couple times, and
I'd like to think that maybe
he's just a very corrupt ancestor
of mine that just fell off the
path of being a nice, good,
decent person.
I just felt like it had
to be asked, you know.
Of course. I've never been one for mud,
so if that answers any questions...
Nope, nope, nope. You gotta throw in those
little references where you can.
Yeah, I'm such a big Firefly fan
that I actually did change my last name
just for the fan film, just for the fans
to pick up the last name.
Well, let me
start off there. How did you become
a brown coat? How did you become
so obsessed with Firefly that it inspired
you to such greatness?
Well, that's actually an
interesting story. The...
interesting thing is that I'm kind of a late
convert to Firefly. I'm a
humongous, humongous
geek and gamer and just sort of
movie fan. I'm a huge
Star Wars, Star Trek, you know, sci-fi
fan, and for some reason
that was the one corner of my
fandom that I'd just sort of...
I'd never gotten into it for whatever
reason, just because I hadn't seen it. It was one of those things
that you say you'll see, and then people say
you should see it, and then you just, you know, eventually
get to it. But boy, let me tell
you, when I got to it, it was...
2008, I was living with
my associate producer and a long-time
collaborator and the co-writer and
one of the actors in the film, Zach Finfrock,
and he's, you know, told me
a number of times that Firefly is the reason
he came to L.A.
And finally I sat down and I watched
Serenity, the pilot, on our... we had a little
projector screen at the house.
And I'm a huge World War II fan, you know,
buff, history buff as well, and that opening
battle in Serenity
Valley was just... oh man, I was
captivated. I... and then
obviously from that moment on, the
dialogue and the sort of...
the visuals and the... you're there,
almost documentary feel, and just
the way these characters, you know,
interacted, I was hooked, man. It was...
it was everything that my
geeky heart could ever desire.
That's how I got into Firefly.
And then from that moment on, you know,
I eventually watched
the entire series in probably the span of,
you know, 48 hours.
It was, like, super quick. And then I
was like, oh my god, there's a movie too? So I
sat down and watched the movie. It was... it was funny.
You know, I was pretty up on
pop culture, but that one, it evaded me. But when I got
it, I got it. That's awesome.
That's cool. Yeah.
I could kind of tell with
this... with this fan film,
um, not... I don't want to
go too much into, like, my reactions
to it quite yet, but... Sure.
I was super impressed
with the dialogue.
Thank you. That's very sweet.
I thought that you kind of
nailed the whole Firefly
feel with the snappy
banter and the kind of
sneaky witticisms and...
Well, I have to... And some were not so
sneaky. Some were, like, right out in the open.
I can't
take all the credit for the writing. I have to really
throw a lot of credit to my co-writers, Peter
Weidman, who we worked together
on the script with Zach Finfrock as well. The three of us
sort of sat down and
man, I gotta tell you the...
First off, thanks for the compliment, but
secondly, it's just such fun dialogue
to write. You just kind of stand up,
and you throw on, like, a cowboy posture,
and you sort of play around with this
beautiful sort of tapestry that
Joss made, and these... And this, like...
Everybody has the most amazing
comebacks. The stuff that you're thinking about
after, you know... You'd wish
that you had said in that argument, but he... You know, everybody's
got it right on the nose. So, you know,
we kind of sat in a room, and
I came to them with the
initial outline of the characters and sort of a
rough idea of the story, and we sat down
and sort of hammered out, you know,
what are these characters about on the
Overland, which is our ship in the
verse? You know, how do they
fit into this world? Because Joss
so masterfully put these, you know,
the crew of the Serenity together,
and it's just, like, huge
shoes to fill. So we kind of tried to
play with similar character
types, but different enough, but something
that when you see it, it gives you that
same kind of feeling. And so to sit down
and kind of write
the dialogue between these guys, it just
sort of... I don't know, man. You sit
with your best buds in a room, and you sort
of try to make each other laugh, you know?
Right, right. No, that came through
really well. So before we go into the
meat of, you know, how you made the movie
and everything, what gave you guys the
idea that this was something you wanted
to do?
Totally, yeah. So we have to also throw a
lot of credit to this amazing company
that we all have been working for called
Loot Crate. Loot Crate is a sort of geek
and gamer subscription box that once a
month you get a
box of random stuff. It's a blind box. You
pay, you know, 13 bucks a month, and you
get a box based off of a theme. So
they've done heroes and villains, they've
done zombies, and then this specific
month that they were doing a crate was
Galactic. And Galactic was their sort of
sci-fi, Star Trek, Star Wars, Firefly alien
crate. So, you know, we'd sat down and
I've been working with them as their
in-house director doing their monthly
theme videos. They put out these great
productions every month, the sort of
talk about what's going on with the
company and the sort of theme that
month, and just sort of like to just
build their community, which is a great
group of our kind of people. Just geek
gamers, brown coats, you know, Trekkies,
Star Wars fans, whatever the name for
Star Wars fans are. There should be a
name for that. I don't know what that is.
And they said, you know, I sat with Zack
and he goes, hey we're going to have an
exclusive, a couple of exclusive items
from this company called Quantum
Mechanics. And I'd known of Quantum
Mechanics from
you know Comic-Con and just their
amazing reproductions and their
stuff. He says, yeah there's going to be a
couple Firefly items in the crate. And
there's this moment where Zack kind of
looked at me and sort of nodded and I was
like, yeah he already knows what we have
to do a Firefly fan film. We absolutely
have to. We both wanted to do one forever.
We had done a film together, another fan
film a few years prior in 2008 called
Fallout Nuka Break, which was a fan film
for the Fallout game. And if you watch
that, you know, and this was like right
around the time I just got into Firefly
post that actually, I got into Firefly, but
all these comments were like, wow this is
so Firefly-esque, this dialogue, these
characters. And I was like, I gotta get
into this show. And then we, you know,
finally had the reason and the excuse
and the inspiration to be like, wow
somebody's going to let us go out there
and make the Firefly Phantom that we've
been wanting to make forever. And that
was the start of it. Did like a copy of
this end up in the boxes or? Oh no, no, no.
So that just gave you the inspiration to
do it. Right, well the inspiration had
been there for a while, but the
company had said, hey, you know, we need
to do a theme video this month, but we
don't want to do as a theme video. We
kind of, I said we shouldn't do it as a
theme video, we should do this as sort of
like a standalone short film. And so Loot
Crate had been sort of, has been building
this amazing community of geeks and
gamers around all sorts of different
movies and fandoms. And I said,
why don't we do this as your first sort
of foray, you know,
into doing sort of longer form short
films or like a fan film. And I said, what
an amazing opportunity, you know,
to collaborate with QMX and with the,
you know, the Serenity and Firefly
browncoat fandom, you know, that I found
myself to be a part of and Zach has been
a part of forever and Peter as well, said
why don't we make this our first step
into it and really, you know, swing for
the fences on it. And we, and it was
just, it was off to the races from there.
The idea started flowing and next thing
you know, we're making a
really, really fun fan film.
Well, I know this has been picked up
really well in Firefly circles. How is it
just in, in your general Loot Crate
audience? Has it been as wildly
successful there as it has elsewhere?
I would say that the Loot Crate fans,
they've been incredibly supportive. They,
all the comments and all the, the, the
very sweet retweets and comments and
Instagram posts and all sorts of stuff
have been just over the moon and
everybody just keeps asking the same
question, which is, when's the next one?
How do I see more of this? You know, when
are you guys going to do another one? I
want to see that stuff. And then beyond
Loot Crate, as you said, the Browncoat
community has been just incredible. It
like really warmed my heart and I know
the whole cast and crew felt the same
way just to see everybody sort of
respond to something that, you know, we
really had a blast making. We loved
making this, this short and to have, you
know, somebody, for example, somebody
tweeted it to Nathan Fillion and Nathan
Fillion retweeted it and said,
so well done. And that just like shut
down, shut down everybody's day for the
day. We're just like, that's it. We've
done our day. This is incredible. Captain
Tightpants just said we did a great job.
And then Tim Minear, Tim Minear, gosh, he
hit me up on Facebook with a, with a tag
and said, you know, all Firefly fans
check this out. This is pretty damn
wonderful. Hat tip to Julian Higgins. And
that for me personally was just like, I
melted, I just melted in my chair. And
you know, the whole cast and crew was
just over the moon about, you know, the
fact that, you know, we've had, we had a
write up from the Nerdist and from the AV
Club and Tube Filter and Weed and Ask, you
know, did a little write up. It was, it
was pretty incredible to have that sort
of response to something that we loved
making so much.
That's awesome. I love that. Getting all
that recognition is, that's fantastic.
Yeah. And more, but more than just the
recognition, it was just like, wow, you
know, we made something for fans like us.
We, we try to make a short that was
something that we would want to see and
that we would want to talk about and, and,
you know, our friends and just like
something a little sliver if we've done
our job right, just a little sliver of
that taste of going back into the verse,
you know, going back into the black and
playing in such an awesome world with,
with, with, you know, that's already been
established by people much more talented
than us with much more money, but we try
to do our best to just sort of play in
that little sandbox for a while.
And I think you did a great job. It's, it's
a very difficult place trying to sort of
honor the material, but not copy it and
play, play close, you know, like so many
things that I saw, you know, uh, Carrie was
talking about the dialogue earlier, but the
music and the sets and the CGI that you did,
you know, so much of it was doing such a
wonderful job in my opinion of striking that
balance of honoring the material, following on
it, but not just, you know, not just totally
being original.
Yeah.
Totally.
Yeah.
And, and you're right.
It was a very sort of complicated line to
walk.
You know, if there's others, incredible, um, influences everywhere in our short, it's
a 15 minute short film, which, you know, when we were writing it, you know, we were sort
of trying to figure out how to tell a story that has characters that you care about in
a story that is engaging and, and is, is, um, as exciting as anything from, you know,
the, the original series of Firefly in 15 minutes.
You know, Peter Wideman, our co-writer said it's, you know, this is kind of like writing
Firefly on fast forward.
So you have to kind of hit the beats as quick as you can and try to try to put those visuals
and that music in there that is, you know, really strikes the, um, strikes the feel because
that's so much of what I think, I mean, me personally, and I'm, I don't want to speak
for you, but maybe you guys as well, the, the feel of the series, the, the feel of the
movies, the sort of feel of that world and the music that sort of brings you down home.
And the, and the characters who you want to sit there in the, in the cargo bay and play
whatever wacky ball game they're playing, you know, that you want to be there.
Um, so we, you know, we, we took a lot of great inspiration from, uh, Greg Edmondson,
our composer, Dan Martinez listened to a lot of his cues and I, I temp scored the short
film when I was editing it with a lot of Greg's original Firefly score.
You know, our, our cinematographer went back, Pierce Cook and watched the show and how it
was lit and how the camera was moving and how they were fine.
You know, the happy accidents of lens flares and, and, you know, just sort of being there
and, and, and, uh, and being in that mode and, you know, production designer, Paul Bianchi,
all these people came together working to sort of emulate and find the bits from the
show that just sort of helped influence that feeling.
And I'm incredibly proud what everybody did.
I think even the actors, you know, sat down and I, you know, I said to every actor I brought
in, I said, you have homework.
You need to, if you've watched Firefly, you're going back and you're rewatching it, you're
going to go back and rewatch it all and just remind yourself about that, that sort of very
particular like way of speaking that, that, that patter, that, that draw, that sort of
flowing rhythm and, and breakneck speed of that dialogue.
And everybody was like, that's the best homework assignment I've ever got.
So were the actors who were in it, had most of them seen the show?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I would say the actors and most of the crew.
Everybody, that, that was one of my main sort of, cause I, I, a lot of these people
are, are, are great friends of mine that I've known for years and I've worked with and collaborated
with as actors and as artists.
I would say everybody on the show is a humongous brown coat, everybody.
It was like the buzz on set was incredible because we shot, um, we shot the, the, the
ship scenes were shot at Laurel Canyon stages over in Arletta, California, which are a set
of amazing sound stages that have been around for over 20 years are the exact same sets that,
um, they shot the episode Bushwhacked on that Tim Minear directed.
And so we're walking around these sets that were walked by the crew and were walked by
the cast and, and that, you know, Joss was there and Tim was there and all these people
were, so there was like a special magic and everybody, like everybody's a huge geek on
that set.
And we were all just like losing our minds, getting a chance to sort of walk around in
those, in those, uh, hallowed halls.
Yeah.
Of course, we would have split it into two
parts and then saved part two for later in the show.
SOUND OF DO evolution
Hello.
Hi Carrie.
What are you up to.
Oh, just thinking about the holiday special we're not doing.
Nevermind that.
I have a plan.
What plan?
We're going to have a party.
We are?
A farewell party for the signal, a shindig to end all shindigs.
Okay.
Where and when?
In Tanzania, and as soon as we can get there.
Tanzania? You're kidding, right?
Nope. This is what I want. I want you to drive over to my place, pick up some of the crew on the way, and then we'll all drive down to Tanzania, pick up the rest of the crew, and then when we get there, it's party time.
Um, so there's one small flaw in your plan. Isn't the Atlantic Ocean in the way? How do we plan to cross it?
I'll explain later.
Les, are you feeling okay? That sounds kind of crazy.
I'm not crazy. I'm giving you a mission.
You're giving me a mission.
I'm giving you a mission.
Okay, on my way. I'll take the RV.
Let's see what's on the radio.
You're listening to Portland Radio on 96.2 FM, and this is the very, very early morning show.
Welcome back.
Next up, here's a new version of...
of an old favorite, produced and performed by The Vocal Company.
This is The Ballad of Serenity, a theme tune to the greatest TV show of all time, Firefly.
Take my love, take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care, I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me
Take me out to the black
Tell them I ain't coming back
Burn the land, boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me
I'm no place I can be
Since I found serenity
You can't take the sky from me
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh
Take my love, take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care, I'm still free
You can take the sky from me
Take me out to the black
Tell them I am coming back
Burn the land, boil the sea
You can take the sky from me
Burn the land and boil the sea
But you can't take the sky
Take me out to the black
Tell them I am coming back
Take me where I cannot stand
Take my love, take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care, I'm still free
You can take the sky from me
Take my love, take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care, I'm still free
You can take the sky
Take the sky
Take my love, take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care, I'm still free
You can take the sky from me
Take me out to the black
Tell them I ain't coming back
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me
Anna! Carrie!
Anna Snyder, producer, 20 shows
Interviewer, 4 interviews
Host, 7 shows
Writer, 63 segments
Including 3 broadwaves
And 30 diary of a companion
Reader, 45 segments
Including 3 they've all got stories
5 broadwaves
And 7 silence in space
Actor
60 segments
Including 4 of the shipworks
And 28 diary of a companion
I'm off to meet up with Les and go to a party
Wanna come with?
Where?
Tanzania
Hell yes! How are we getting there?
RV, I'm driving
Isn't there an ocean in the way?
I'll explain that part later
Come on
Ooh, I love this
I like the interior
Looks like serenity
I was inspired
Thanks for being at the live show, by the way
I really enjoyed that
It brought back a lot of good memories
Plus, it was kinda nice to talk about what happened to all the diary of a companion characters after the series ended
It was nice to revisit the relationship between Foster and Carly
And talk about Lydia, who really is one of my favorite characters
But it's...
Really good
To just kind of close it out
To give people an ending
Do you suppose that Carly would have kept up the diary?
After the end of the series, I mean
I think she might
If anything important happened
Alright, let's get moving
Diary of a companion
I have been a fully trained companion for many years
Recently, I came across the diaries I kept as I entered the training house as a young girl
My diaries show how I grew from an uneducated farm girl who had never been off-planet
To a well-educated and well-traveled companion
Catering to the wealthiest of clients
Allow me to share them with you
Thanks for watching!
Dear Diary
It has been such a long time
I flipped back through the pages and noticed
The last time I wrote anything was approximately a year ago
How in the verse could I have let so much time pass?
I suppose when things get quiet, there isn't much to share
Looking over my other entries, it seems I only shared when something big was happening
Which makes sense, I suppose
And of course, that's why I'm writing now
It's been two years since the end of the unification war
Sarah, Lina, and I continue to do well on Beaumont
Although other companions took notice of our success here and we do have some competition
However, all of our houses get along and we share information
Information should have its own currency standard complete with exchange rates
That's not to say we ever use information against our clients
It's unprofessional and unkind
And would get you banned from the guild real fast
But it benefits everyone to know when members of parliament are visiting
Which is how I came to find out Foster would be here before he told me himself
Foster and I have stayed in touch
We talk via the cortex regularly, exchange waves
When I'm feeling particularly romantic, I'll spend some money on paper and write a letter
That can get expensive though, so I don't do it often
But we hadn't actually spent any time together in the same physical space since we both left the training house
So when he said he was accompanying his contractor to an economic summit
He made sure to free up some time in his schedule to see me
Sarah and Lina were insufferable leading up to his visit
They would whisper to each other and stop talking when I came in the room
There's nothing more annoying when someone who is bad at lying, like Lina, tries to hide behind an inn
Innocent smile
Whenever I asked what they had been so intent on talking about
They would say, oh nothing
And then immediately ask what Foster and I were going to do
Would we visit any of the gardens built since the end of the war?
Maybe tour a factory?
A factory?
I'm afraid I got a bit short with them and told them both
That what we did would be none of their concern
And I was certain it wouldn't disturb their plans any
Sarah actually guffawed when I said that
So much for those lessons in comportment
I tried not to let it get too much in my head
But I did order three new dresses
I had no idea if he would be able to invite me to any of the official events
Or if his contractor would want him to attend on the job
Sometimes the long term contracts have a lot of ifs and thens
I talked to Lydia too
She reminded me that Foster and I had been in touch
So it's not like we have to start from scratch
And it's not like we hadn't been together before
So there shouldn't be too many surprises
I rolled my eyes at that
I knew there would be surprises
You can't be out in the world working without developing a few new things
Sometimes I think being a priestess puts Lydia's head up in the clouds a little too much
Our time together was wonderful
We visited different sites
I accompanied him to one official event
Well, technically I accompanied his contractor who brought both of us as guests
Toward the end of the week, Foster told me his contract was ending
And he wasn't renewing it
That he was ready to try working out of a house
I must sign off now
I can hear Foster stirring
And I'm trying to get him acclimated to living on Beaumont
It was actually Sarah's idea for him to stay
She said it would widen our client base
And make us a stronger competitor now that more companions were moving in
I feel like this is what Foster and I agreed on
I knew what would happen eventually
But we didn't want to hope too much
So we're trying this out
Seeing how it goes
Should anything change, Diary
I'm sure you'll be one of the first to know
Love, Carly
We've arrived
In Tanzania? That was quick
No, in Arcata
What's in Arcata?
Craig Kuromata
Four shows
32 segments including four The Shipworks and eight Earthburn
37 segments including 24 How to Speak Chinese
53 segments including three Broadway's
Seven Serenity Speculation
And 29 How to Speak Chinese
Editor
61 segments including three News from the Verse
Three Banter
Four Firefly in Five Lines
And 54 How to Speak Chinese
Craig, we're going to a shindig
Is there room in there for me?
There sure is, you want to sit in the middle?
Hi guys
Hi
Yeah, just go straight ahead here
Actually, take a right
You want to avoid downtown
The organic bakers are on one side
And the anti-gluten people are on the other
It's a big mess
Yeah, go right down here
You can get back on the freeway
Yeah, turn right here
Okay, good
Craig, we have to be there
We have to be insane to be doing this
Perhaps we are
Where to next?
Kansas to pick up India
Then after that, Michigan to pick up James
I phoned ahead, they're expecting us
Well, let's move
派对开始了
What's that mean?
It's party time
Excellent
It's party time
I like Chinese
I like the tiny little keys
How to speak Chinese
The zen, the ping-pong, the yin and yang-bees
Welcome once again to another episode of How to Speak Chinese, the language course which teaches you Mandarin using only the phrases found in Firefly and Serenity.
Because of the, shall we say, scarcity of phrases found in the comic book story,
comic book stories, we've chosen to combine the phrases from two stories into this one lesson.
In Serenity, Better Days, Part 2 and 3, we find our two most popular phrases again.
They are xiao mei mei and bi zui, which you long-time listeners must certainly have learned
by now by its repeated presence. Well, as a former language teacher of mine used to say,
or repetition is the mother of study, he said that, uh, all the time. Oh, all right,
one more translation. Xiao mei mei is little sister. Xiao mei mei. Xiao mei mei.
And the phrase for shut up is, of course, bi zui. Bi zui. Perhaps if you're tired of learning this
particular phrase, you can use it to say, xiao mei mei. Xiao mei mei. Xiao mei mei. Xiao mei mei.
You're using it right now, saying, Craig, bi zui. Congratulations, you're now using your
Mandarin in real context. The last Mandarin phrase from Better Days is from Wash, calling Zoe's plan
shen jing bing. Literally, this is mental illness, but I think we're safe translating this as
crazy. Try it with me now. Bing. Bing. Shen jing.
Shen jing. Shen jing bing. Shen jing bing. Well, from the Serenity one-shot, to use the
comic book parlance, entitled The Other Half, there is only one phrase, but it's a great phrase.
Translated, it means, this body of mine will not be used as food for reavers. I suppose in your
hazardous travels, you could employ this phrase. Just imagine what a wonderful reaction,
you'll get from your Mandarin-speaking brown coat friends. Here it is.
Wo zhe ge shen zi bu shi yong lai wei reavers de.
Don't panic. Let's break it down slowly, as we always have.
Reavers de. Reavers de.
Yong lai wei. Yong lai wei.
Yong lai wei reavers de. Yong lai wei reavers de.
Bu shi.
Bu shi yong lai wei reavers de.
Shen zi.
Shen zi bu shi yong lai wei reavers de.
Wo zhe ge.
Wo zhe ge shen zi.
Wo zhe ge shen zi bu shi.
Wo zhe ge shen zi.
Well, I think all this study has paid off.
When you can reel off this phrase in an anxious moment,
you can consider yourself at the top of the How to Speak Chinese class.
So, Signal listeners, you've done it.
You've completed all the spoken and in some cases written Chinese in the Firefly Serenity verse.
It has been an honor and a privilege to guide you through this course.
To keep up on your Chinese linguistic toes,
I highly recommend you visit Kevin Sullivan's Firefly Pinionary,
the link for which will appear in our show notes.
From all of us at The Signal,
谢谢你们 for the many dedicated hours of listening you have devoted to us.
And for the last time, 再见!
Hey guys, welcome to Kansas City.
Hey, Bindya, good to see you.
Bindya Dale, host, six shows.
Actor, 11 segments including permanent waves.
Writer, four segments.
Editor, 31 segments including three editorial and 20 news from the verse.
Newshound, 38 news segments researched.
Reader, 48 segments including 38 news from the verse.
So, what's happening?
We're going to Tanzania.
We're on a mission from Les.
Cool, I got the message.
I'll join you.
You want to hop in the back?
Nah, it's okay.
I have my own transportation.
Ooh, a beetle!
A yellow 1972 Super Beetle, no less.
You lead, I'll follow.
Sounds like a plan.
How are you guys going to cross the ocean?
I'm okay, beetles can float.
We're browncoats, we do the impossible.
A fair point.
We do seem to keep on doing that.
Like, just when you think that everything that could possibly be written about Firefly has been written,
along comes something new and unexpected.
I did like the way our writers kept approaching things from different angles.
Do you remember that series, They've All Got Stories?
Yeah, but that was before my time.
It was all over with by the time I joined.
Inevitable, I suppose.
They ran out of big damn heroes to tell stories about.
Shame, really.
I would have liked to...
I could voice one of those.
Oh, Shiny!
I like to meet new people, they've all got stories.
They've All Got Stories, Genius Mechanic, by Jill Arroway.
Genius?
No one's ever called me that before.
Shiny!
They've All Got Their Own Stories, all of Serenity's crew.
We may not always know what those stories are,
but they're there just the same,
and sometimes, we can only speculate about what those stories might be.
In this series, we've told some of those stories,
and we've touched on every member of Serenity's crew,
except one.
Now it's time to redress that balance and tell the tale
of the one member of Serenity's crew
who played the most critical role in Serenity's story.
He was the genius mechanic before Cayley.
His name was Bester.
Genius?
No one's ever called me that before. Shiny.
I hold Bester in high regard. A lot of people don't, and I understand why.
He was clearly overshadowed by Kaylee, and his inability to fix Serenity's engine in Out of Gas was a definite minus point, one which cost him his job.
But let's take a look at his achievements before that. When Mal first purchased Serenity, she was not space-worthy.
Get her running again.
Yeah. So not running now.
Not so much.
Someone got Serenity running. I've read articles on the web which claim that that someone was Kaylee, that Bester was the one who failed to get Serenity space-worthy, and that Kaylee succeeded where Bester failed.
In this revisionist fiction, it was Kaylee who fixed up Serenity for her maiden voyage, not Bester.
But that's just wish fulfillment, and it's just plain wrong. We know that Serenity had been flying before Kaylee got anywhere near it.
Mal tells us so.
When we landed, you said you needed a few days to get a space-worthy again, and is there something wrong with your bunk?
When we landed here. Space-worthy again. Yes, Serenity flew before Kaylee, and it was Bester who kept her flying.
Moreover, whatever was wrong with Serenity at the time Mal bought it, chances are that considerably more work would have been needed than the simple removal of a bad rad couple.
It probably took weeks of work to get Serenity out of the junkyard and into space.
Bester earned his keep.
When Mal bought the cargo ship Betty and renamed her Serenity, the first thing he did was hire Bester.
Zoe was always by his side, of course, but Zoe aside, Bester was the ship's first hire.
He was there before Wash, and he was there before the newly renamed ship had ever lifted off the dirt.
Look, we finally got ourselves a genius mechanic. It's about time we hired someone to fly this damn thing.
Bester is described in the shooting script as a buffed, surferish dude.
And his portrayal by actor Dax Griffin certainly meets that description.
Wash may wear the Hawaiian shirts, but my money's on Bester when it comes to blending in with a surfboard.
To my mind, Bester would have made a fine permanent addition to Serenity's crew.
I would certainly like to read some pre-Kaylee fanfic with Bester as the mechanic.
He may not have understood the purpose of a rad couple, but he knew enough to get a broken ship into the sky.
He was a big damn hero, just like the rest of the crew, but his heroism went unsung.
That said, a ship doesn't need two mechanics.
In the end, Bester became redundant because someone came along who could do the job better than he.
I still wonder what became of him.
I hope he found a new ship, a new crew, and to this day is still out there.
Still flying.
Hang on, travelers.
You're gonna come with us.
Mercy is the mark of a great man.
Guess I'm just a good man.
Take me, sir. Take me hard.
I'll be in my bunk.
So, where are we now?
We're not in Kansas anymore.
We're in Lansing, Michigan. This is where James lives.
I phoned ahead, remember?
He's expecting us.
James Parkinson.
Producer, 12 shows.
Writer, 2 segments.
Host, 3 shows.
Actor, 38 segments, including 6 Moonbrain Mike and 11 Earthburn.
Reader, 64 segments, including 5 Serenity Speculation and 5 Broadwaves.
You coming?
Sure, but I'm not going without my wife and kid.
If I go, they come too.
Okay. So how have you been?
Fine.
That's great.
Oh, hey, did we get any emails?
We got a few.
Uh, here's one. It's from Tilk, or MJ. One person, two names. It's confusing.
No, no, Tilk. That's the guy who made the Bellflower fan film, right?
Yep.
Well, let me read.
Since 2005, the signal has been my warm blanket that kept the feeling of love and warmth for all things Firefly.
The inspiration and joy to keep Firefly alive and expanding.
I have a sadness and a fear that the imagination and life of the verse will indeed fade to black.
Even in a busy life with many overly important things to do,
people to care for,
there was always the signal.
The chance to escape for the briefest of times back to the verse,
back to Firefly,
back to the feeling that you get when you visit our special place in science fiction.
Even in your twilight, never underestimate your significance and importance to the browncoats, even today.
I'm going to miss you more than breathing.
There is a hole that is forever in my heart.
It will stay there until you once again breathe life into a wave to the people that love you.
I just know that I'll be hearing from you guys once again.
Stay beautiful, MJ.
That was beautiful.
It's so nice to hear somebody who can put to words kind of the general feeling I think we all feel.
We all feel a sense of sadness, but, you know, we feel great for having done this whole podcast-y thing.
Doing this for this long, I just...
Things like this just astound me still, that we have this kind of an effect on people.
Were you there in 2005?
No, I think I joined the Signal in Season 2.
You know what I remember from the old days?
What?
Moonbrain Mike.
Hello there, a big welcome to all my new customers.
I've gone up up in the world since the last time we spoke.
I used to run my own business, but I was so good at selling that I went out of business, so now I work for Blue Sun.
That's right, the big ol' Blue Sun Corporation had the good wisdom to employ me, Moonbrain Mike, in their sales division.
This makes me very happy, and it's gonna make you very happy too.
Why?
Because I can offer you great, great bargains of the one brand name you know you can trust.
And that's not all.
Let's start with Blue Sun Cola. That's right, your favorite cold fizzy drink at a knock down price.
But only if you buy it in bulk. Get ten crates of Blue Sun Cola for only two credits.
That works out at only one hundredth of a credit a can. You won't find bargains like that anywhere else.
And that's not all.
It gets better. Blue Sun jeans and t-shirts, half a credit each. In fact, you buy the jeans, we'll throw in the t-shirts for free.
And... I don't think we can do that.
Yes we can. In fact, we can do better.
You want accessories? We got accessories.
Watches, wallets, handbags, purses, and even hats for the fashion conscious.
We've got the lot at knock down prices. Buy one, get the rest free.
Mike, I'm really sure we can't do that.
If there's one thing I know, Shannon, it's retail. Trust me, this is gonna sell like hotcakes.
And speaking of hotcakes, we've got those too. We've got everything.
This is Blue Sun, after all. What don't we sell?
We could even sell you indentured servants.
Uh, no we can't.
Yes we can. We can sell everything at prices you wouldn't believe.
Mike, we don't sell people.
That would be highly unethical.
That's how we're able to sell at such low, low prices. Servants, slaves, we've got the lot.
You want workers for your terraforming gang? Blue Sun is the place to go.
I've heard enough. Shut this down.
We'll break the rules to get you the best service.
And fire that guy.
Live life with Blue Sun.
Yep.
Yeah, let's not air this one.
May I introduce my wife, Carolyn.
Carolyn Parkinson.
Host, one show.
Actor, 23 segments including 13 borderline.
Reader, 44 segments including 4 Serenity Speculation, 9 Broadway's, and 13 Big Damn Test Kitchen.
Writer, 59 segments including 3 Tricks from the Training House, 5 How to Host a Shindig, 5 Moonbrain Mike, 5 Broadway's, 7 Serenity Speculation, and 13 Big Damn Test Kitchen.
Hey, Carolyn. It's been a long time.
It sure has. What's cooking?
We're putting the band back together.
Forget it. No way.
We're on a mission from Les.
Oh, well, if you put it like that, I'm in.
So what's been happening?
Oh my gosh, life. I have a two-year-old now. Wait, no, he's two and a half.
And I haven't done a ton of podcasting, as you might imagine.
He's just starting to get interesting where he's walking and talking and a little bit able to take care of himself just a touch.
Oh, and work's going awesome. I found a place that's really sweet.
Guys, we are ready to rock.
How are you traveling?
Well, we've got two cars, a Honda minivan and a 97 Saturn.
The minivan would have been ideal for a journey like this on account of it's got lots of room.
But unfortunately, both cars are out of action right now.
But don't worry. We came prepared. This is what we got.
Ta-da.
You're kidding me. That's...
A toddler.
And a motorcycle.
With a sidecar for Jim.
Hello.
You're going to ride to Tanzania on that.
We sure are.
And I got some recipes ideas, too.
Big damn test kitchen.
Making and eating recipes on the road.
Since this is a road trip, I thought I'd cook up some road food recipes.
Like, literally, cooking food while on the road.
On the engine block of a car.
Or a Firefly, if you're a space traveler.
I first heard about engine block cooking before I could drive, but I'd never tried it until now.
Then the Mythbusters did an episode with Alton Brown where they cooked an entire roast turkey dinner with stuffing, side dishes, and dessert on a car.
So, when the opportunity to do one last big damn test kitchen came up, I knew this would be perfect.
I also think it's something the crew of Serenity might have done.
I mean, it's efficient to put excess heat to good use, and we know that Serenity doesn't have a traditional stove to speak of.
I can just imagine Kaylee making a fancy hot cheese bread bowl, and Jane maybe warming up a few cans of peaches, or a ground beef stew pack.
After all, Kaylee's got that inter-engine fermentation system, so why not a RadionCore range?
Now, I'm no Alton Brown, so I started small.
I did some research online to get some ideas of what other people were doing, then picked a few recipes to try.
I looked for things that only needed to be heated up, or things that would cook quickly.
I also looked for recipes that were easy to cook.
Things that would be cooked on coals, or over an open fire, you know, like campfire cooking.
Or, I just went very basic and improvised.
As you get started, if you choose to try this, the first thing you'll need to do is a test run to find out which spots of your car's engine are the hottest, the easiest to get to, and the best for cooking.
You'll also need to figure out how big your cooking surface is, and make sure your foil packet will fit snugly, but not be too big or too small.
One more thing to think about is when you're going to cook.
If you're at home and have plenty of time, you can get everything ready, stick it on your engine, and just start driving.
But if you're going to be camping, or on the move, or in a hurry, it may be easier for you to make your foil packets in advance than refrigerate them.
Or bring them in a cooler with ice until you're ready to cook.
James and I have two cars, and it turns out only one of them is good for engine block cooking.
Our newest car, a Honda minivan, must have been built by the Alliance or something because it's got a space-age case around the entire engine.
So there's no need to worry about it.
So there's no good way to get to the hot parts to cook our food.
Our 97 Saturn, which I sometimes call Serenity if she aims to misbehave, was more than up to the task.
It has a large exhaust manifold with lots of hot air, and places to wedge foil packets in.
As far as tools go, you'll need lots and lots of aluminum kitchen foil, an oven mitt, a kitchen towel, and a fork or two.
If you're cooking after you left home, you'll also want a cooler with ice to keep your food fresh until you're ready to cook it.
I tested out three recipes, and they were pretty tasty, if I do say so myself.
Recipe one was a banh mi.
This is a Vietnamese sub sandwich that is made on a French baguette.
My version uses canned sardines.
Mashup of cultures and flavors, check.
Uses canned food, check.
Yep, this sounds like a pretty perfect Serenity-style recipe to me.
But if sardines freak you out, you could make any kind of submarine sandwich you'd like and heat it up using this same method.
The basic recipe was this.
I shredded some carrots, radish, and then added some salt, lime juice, and a splash of fish sauce and sesame oil.
I was basically making some quick pickles in a vinaigrette-type sauce.
I then got a can of sardines, in tomato sauce, and some very thin sliced onions.
I split open half a loaf of French bread, and put some mayonnaise, some pickles, and some sardines on.
I closed up the bread, wrapped it up real tight with foil, then wrapped it again twice more, just to be sure.
I carefully wedged it on top of the engine and whipped it.
It was tasty.
Even James tried some, though sardines aren't his forte.
But it wasn't very hot.
Turns out, I don't know my way around an engine.
I'm no Kayleigh.
I did not put the sandwich on the hottest part of the oven, um, stove.
James helped me troubleshoot, with the help of the internet, and we came up with two fixes.
One, put it closer to the exhaust where all the heat is.
And two, crumple up a ball of foil right next to the exhaust and next to your food.
This helps conduct the heat over time.
This helps conduct the heat over to where what you want to cook is.
Round one under my belt, I felt confident that round two would go better.
I went for broke, and tested recipes two and three together.
Recipe two was baked apples, and recipe three was garlic shrimp scampi.
For the apples, I used just one apple, peeling it and slicing it very thin.
I added a touch of apple juice, a little bit of sugar, a pinch of salt, and some butter.
In a serenity situation, oil would probably be more authentic.
I added a touch of apple juice, a little bit of sugar, a pinch of salt, and some butter.
In a serenity situation, oil would probably be more authentic.
For the shrimp, I used about a quarter of a pound of fairly small shrimp.
There were between 60 and 70 of them to a pound, or about 120 to 150 shrimp to a kilogram.
I added butter, lemon juice, salt, pepper and garlic powder.
I didn't want to use fresh garlic for fear of it burning.
To make each packet, I laid out two long strips of aluminum foil and put the ingredients right in the middle.
I folded all four sides over, then put the two packets together, the shrimp and the apples,
and wrapped them together with one more layer of foil.
This roundish bundle fit pretty well over my engine.
I added one last ball of foil to keep it stable and to conduct more heat from the engine over to the food.
As I said, that was James' idea, and it was a good one.
Now, because these recipes had liquid in them, this is technically braising.
That was my idea.
I went with braising for a few reasons.
One, liquid adds flavor.
Two, adding liquid helps distribute heat more evenly and makes the food cook faster.
Three, it also gives you some insurance from burning.
For these two tests, I figured the raw stuff would need more time to cook, so I drove for an hour before checking.
After an hour, James and I turned off the car and carefully pulled out the packet.
It was so hot it almost burned me, which I considered a good sign.
As I unwrapped it, I felt a bit like a kid at Christmas.
I could see some burned areas in the inner layers, and I was a bit worried.
But I kept going.
One or two of the shrimp on the side that was closest to the engine had gotten burned, but the rest were good to eat.
And they were great!
I do not lie when I say they were some of the best cooked shrimp I've ever made.
Sometimes shrimp can be rubbery or chewy when they're overcooked or cooked too fast, but these were cooked through evenly, and they were very tender.
The apples were okay, but not as good.
They were hot and had good flavor, but they were not super soft.
I like my baked apples pretty tender, so it may be personal preference.
But for a cold fall day, they were a pretty great snack.
All in all, my car cooking experiment was pretty successful.
I hope I have inspired you to try something similar.
It's something I will surely do again.
I've already found some recipes that I want to try.
There's a garlic bread that looks pretty great, and whiskey peaches, and some really tasty things with hot cheese over there, and strawberries.
I think I would like to do a foil packet where it's got a little bit of garlic and more meat, and I want some ground beef, or maybe some patchy.
It would be so much fun.
But, hey, all of that to come!
Fruit-y O.T. bars make a man out of a mouse.
Fruit-y O.T. bars make you bust out of your glass.
It'll run the time.
Who's next?
You're monsters.
Miranda.
This is Miranda.
We're on a mission from Les.
Miranda Thomas.
Producer, 16 shows.
Host, 8 shows.
Writer, 27 segments including 3 Tricks from the Training House, 5 Broadwaves, and 7 Operation Sequel.
Editor, over 100 show mixdowns plus 1 segment, Broadwaves.
Actor, over 100 segments including 6 Moonshine, 9 Earthburn, 25 The Terraformers, 27 Diary of a Companion, and 30 Badger's World.
Reader, hundreds of segments and hundreds of emails.
Nice car.
Thanks.
It's a red 1960 Corvette convertible.
Pretty ain't it?
I like the number plate.
S-P-Y-G-R-L?
What does it mean?
Well, when I first got a car...
My own car.
I wanted something fun as the license plate.
And I am absolutely in love with spy shows, as you may have been able to tell from some of the Broadwaves I did in the past.
Anyhow, I decided I wanted to get a Spy Girl plate, and there it is.
So, tell us about this blog thingy.
Oh, it's just a blog.
You know, a signal blog.
And we can all write to it.
All the signal crew.
It's how we're going to keep in touch with the world now that the podcast's gone.
Good idea.
But it can wait.
Right now, we've got a party to get to.
Hey, I'm on board for a party.
How are we getting across the ocean, though?
I'll explain later.
Okay.
You know, this sounds like one of those weird and wacky adventures that Sarah Bunnell and
Tara Rae Parsec used to get up to in the Terraformers.
Let's just hope our adventures aren't quite as disastrous.
Come on, let's get driving.
We've got a long way to go.
The Terraformers.
Building better worlds.
Starring Carrie Haley as Sarah Brunell.
Why do I have a bad feeling about this?
If we're supposed to screw this one up, theoretically there's nothing to go wrong.
But somehow, I think we'll find a way.
And Miranda Thomas as Tara Rae Parsec.
Oh, don't be so pessimistic, Sarah.
This is our big chance.
We do this job well, and Mr. Spall will finally let us off Black Rock.
I know it!
And featuring Nick Edwards as Mr. Spall.
This assignment is a perfect match for you two masters of disaster.
You're so good at actual catastrophes that simulating one should be a breeze.
Episode number 29, This Mortal Coil.
And so, if the squirrels could only start organising themselves better, I think it just might work.
Oh, thank Buddha.
Alright, you two.
Looks like we're ready to go.
Are you clear on the plan?
Yes, sir.
We send the newbies out, strand them in the black, and sit back and see how it goes.
See how well they find their way back to Black Rock.
That's the number of it, yes.
Terraformers need to think on their feet.
Improvise.
Beach trainees need some practice at that.
And, uh, I don't know what I thought you two would be the best choice for creating disaster on cue.
Thank you, Mr. Spall.
I sure appreciate the compliment.
We won't let you down.
Uh-huh.
You seem rather quiver now.
Don't you share Parsec's confidence?
I feel my role here is to add a dose of healthy pessimism to the mix, Mr. Spall.
Good teamwork is about balance, right?
Indeed.
Well, off you go.
Your victims await you.
Okay, listen up.
Ms. Parsec is handing out your assignments.
You'll be working in teams of two.
The objective for each team is to reach the coordinates given, get the data specified, and then hightail it back here as soon as you can.
Each team has the same type of ship and the same distance to go, so this will be a fair race.
Any questions?
Um, I don't have a question.
But I do have this for you from Mr. Spall.
Oh, okay.
Bring in here, then.
The rest of you get to your ships.
Departure time, 0800.
Anyone taking off before then will be disqualified.
Here it is.
It's a recorder.
I can see that.
Thank you.
Go join the others.
Yes, miss.
How's Mr. Spall using a trainee to send us a message?
I don't know, but it sure makes me nervous.
Well, here goes.
Surprise!
Guess who else is going on this assignment?
I thought it was about time I gave you the chance to redeem yourselves.
If you complete your assignment and get back to Blackrock before all the other teams, you'll have secured your ticket out of here and back to Terraforming proper.
No more holding Yubi's hands for you two, if you can win the race.
Your assignment details are in your ship.
Good luck.
You'll need it.
Alright!
Let's win this thing!
Yes, we have a chance.
Actually, we have a good chance.
We know something the others don't.
What do you mean?
We know that this assignment is not about navigation or data collection or speed, either.
It's about being able to deal with the unexpected.
The real test is what the trainees do when they find out their ships have been sabotaged.
They don't know that yet, but we do.
Oh, yeah!
Mr. Spall must have tampered with our ship like we tampered with all the ships for the trainees.
But we know that and they don't.
Well, then let me say it again, all right?
Let's win this thing!
Okay.
We've got half an hour.
I'll go check out the ship and see if I can work out what he did.
You go scrounge up any supplies you think might come in handy for whatever mechanical failure Mr. Spall might have dreamed up for us.
Let's do this.
That was heavy.
I got everything I could think of.
Could you work out what's wrong with the ship?
Not yet, but we can keep checking once we're off and have a look.
Strap in.
It's almost 0800.
I can't wait to see the look on Mr. Spall's face when we get back first.
Oh, don't jinx it.
We've still got to find the problem and fix it.
Have faith, Sarah.
I think this is our lucky day.
I've got all the data, Sarah.
It was pretty easy stuff.
Have you found the problem yet?
I most certainly have, thank you very much.
And not only that, I've fixed it.
Dear Mr. Spall had rigged the catalyzer on the starboard compression coil to blow.
But guess what I found in that box of tricks you brought on board?
Was it a spare compression coil by any chance?
It most assuredly was.
Good job, Sarah.
Good job yourself.
Now, let's get back to Blackrock and claim our prize.
A ticket back to civilization.
I can only make out one ship down there, and it's Mr. Spall.
Wave one!
Oh, we so very much have.
Let's get this bird on the ground and go do our dance of victory.
Aw, he's coming over to meet us.
How sweet.
A victorious homecoming.
Boy, this feels good.
Mr. Spall, thanks for being the welcoming committee.
I'm not the welcoming committee, you fools.
I've come to cheer you out for what you've done to my ship.
Your ship?
What do you mean?
There's no use denying it, Brunel.
You were seen, Parsec, looting my ship for spare parts to take with you.
You stranded me here, and I missed an important meeting.
Oh?
Did I take too many things?
Could your ship not take off?
Could it not take off?
With half its inners missing?
Oh, let me think.
We're sorry, Mr. Spall, but, um, we did complete the assignment, and we're the first team back, so, um...
Do you really want to finish that sentence, Brunel?
You think I'm going to let you leave here now?
You'd better start praying for a miracle, because that's the only way you're ever getting off Blackrock.
Ah...
See?
All I want is a little...
Aren't you cold?
Ah...
Ah, I almost forgot about the
I'm sorry, Brunel, I didn't mean to go on the internet with someone else.
What?
Well, you see, I'm in a real bad mood now.
Ah...
Guys! Guys! You made it!
We made it!
Carrie, Anna, Craig, Binyad, James, Carolyn, and a small child, and Miranda.
Great to see you, Les.
Hey, Les.
Good to be here.
Yay! Les!
We made it.
Yep. We took turns driving. Not Jim, though.
Awesome. But seven people? Is that all you got?
So far.
I want more. I want them all. We're reuniting the signal crew for one final blowout.
We'll pick up the rest on the way.
You're serious about going to Tanzania?
All the way. Can I hitch a ride in your RV? It looks awesome.
No problem. What have you been doing, apart from plotting devious shindig plans?
Apart from that, I've been watching The Verse.
I haven't seen that. What have I been missing?
It's a Firefly fan film. It's like Firefly, but with a different ship and different crew.
The ship is called The Overland. The captain is Captain Hunter, and he's played by Ryan Caldwell.
Is he good?
Oh, he's good. He's got big shoes to fill, obviously, following in the footsteps of Mel, but he does a good job.
I wouldn't say Captain Hunter is an incredibly capable captain, but it's like everyone on The Overland is new,
and he's kind of like the glue that keeps the crew together.
Because they haven't gelled yet. They're not really a family yet.
But they will be.
Oh, for sure.
Oh, the music is awesome, too.
The composer. I think his name is Dan Martina. He's written the score, and the score is just brilliant.
He's got a live violinist, and I think Dan plays some mandolin.
And he's got a little guitar action going there, too.
Yeah, it's like he's really understood the core of what makes Firefly what it is.
It is beautiful.
Sounds great.
Yeah, Carrie and I were going to do an interview with the creator.
Hey-ho. Well, shall we get rolling?
Why not?
No point in standing still.
Let's go.
Three What's in a Signal, four Broadway's, and 16 The Firefly Technical Manual.
Actor, 70 segments, including three The Shipworks, three Around the Verse in 80 Days,
nine Earthburn, and 33 Badger's World.
Interviewer, over 100 interviews.
Host, over 100 shows.
Bindiya, how many vehicles have we got?
We've got you, Carrie, Anna, and Craig in the RV.
Me in the Super Beetle.
Carolyn, James, and Jim.
In the bike and sidecar.
And Miranda in the Corvette.
10-4, good buddy.
Bruce is six alive.
Looks like we got us a convoy.
There have been a lot of Firefly fan films, or at least attempts at one.
You know, there have been...
Some have made it out.
Most have started and fizzled somewhere in the middle.
Sure.
The Verse, y'all snuck up on me.
You know, I didn't hear anything, and then bang, here's a finished product.
Yeah.
Understanding how you did this in collaboration with Loot Crate, you know, it was an idea
you had for a while.
You got the synergies and just made it happen.
You know, from the point at which you knew you were doing it until you were done, how
long did the process take?
Yeah, it was extremely short.
And when you say it snuck up on you, I can tell you it definitely snuck up on us as well.
You know, when it comes to fan films, there's...
I, for the longest time, because I'm, you know, as I said, I'm a huge geek, and I came
from the Force.net forums and, you know, the Ryan and Dorkman sort of Star Wars fan films
of the day.
And, you know, there's a stigma about fan films for the longest time that they're sort
of a bunch of, you know, socially awkward people shooting something in a garage and
releasing a photo, and then it never gets out.
And from somebody who's been on the other side of that, it's extremely hard to put together
a film.
It's extremely ambitious, and anybody who's brave enough and motivated enough to get together
a group of like-minded people, most of the time who are working for free, to just put
something together for something that you love, I send my hat out to you.
So, as far as where we came from, we...
Our time frame was extremely short.
We were going to try to shoot it before Comic-Con.
The movie...
Or the short...
It had to be out on September 10th.
Our goal was September 10th.
Our first real finished script was probably around August 10th.
Wow.
Yeah.
It was incredible because everybody, you know, it is an incredibly short time to put out
something like that.
The post-production was less than 20 days.
Our visual effects artists had, you know, such a short time frame, and I think absolutely
knocked it out of the park, the guys at Distoli Digital.
And the amazing...
Sean Kennedy, who came in via QMX, and Andy Gore, and helped create our 3D model in less
than, you know, three weeks.
It was an amazing effort.
So, yeah, we kind of snuck up on ourselves.
We knew that we had to get it out by this date because we were sort of doing it coinciding
with, you know, Loot Crate's theme that month, which was Galactic, and sort of trying to
help bring some eyes to them and bring eyes to their community as well.
We just said, hey, you know, if we're going to get the green light and the keys to go
play on a ship in space...
And you only have a month to do it, you dang well better make sure you get it done and
make it right because everybody was in love with it.
So, yeah, less than a month.
If you've ever done a film or if, you know, anybody listening has ever been involved in
film production, you know, it's incredibly hard work, and I'm just endlessly proud of
what everybody did, especially in the time that we had to do it.
So the casting was so well done for the characterizations that they portrayed.
Like, by the end of it, I really did want...
There to be another one because I want to know what happens.
I have to tell you, everybody, including myself, feels the exact same way.
We're just like, when do we get to do the next one?
Yeah, everybody just really responded to it.
And, you know, most everybody on the cast are people that I've had the pleasure to work
with on other projects that I've worked on.
I've done a couple independent features and a ton of web content, short films, stuff like
that.
And everybody...
With the exception of a couple new people who I...
Oh, my God.
I made a couple amazing new friends in Alex Marshall-Brown, who played Annie, and then
Ewan Chung, who I'd only met once before in passing on a set, just brought them in on
this.
Everybody else are close friends, and we just...
Everybody just buzzed about it.
You know, that was the amazing thing that I felt on set, too.
And I can only speak for myself, but it was like a little one-thirty-second-ish percentage
slice.
Of what it must have felt like to work with a team of people on the original show, on
the original Firefly, and you hear the cast and crew talk about how they're friends, and
they've fell in love with the project, and when it was over, it was just devastating.
And I'm like, wow.
Like, in this very short time span, and getting to play in this world, it's so much absolute
fun.
Like, at the end of the day, it's just so much fun to put on boots and a jacket and
jump into a spaceship, or go play in the desert and, you know, play Space Cowboys.
It was so much fun.
It was so much fun that I just think that comes through in everybody's performance.
I think everybody just really responded, and we're such a huge fan of the material.
They were just geeking out to be a part of it, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
You can tell.
You can tell that there's a lot of camaraderie, and everybody was comfortable.
Absolutely.
I mean, you have a pedigree of geek in the cast.
You have Jennifer Wanger, who plays Stack, our bounty hunter who co-owns the ship with
Captain Hunter, the sort of uneasy partnership that they have.
She's big in the costuming, Comic-Con, cosplay community.
She's a big, like, Wonder Woman cosplayer.
You know, obviously, Zach Finfrock, Tybee Diskin, myself, and Peter have all been involved
in, you know, geek and gamer stuff online.
Fallout Nuka Break.
We worked on a web series called Backyard Effects, and Tybee Diskin's been in a bunch
of different video game materials.
You got our villain in this one, Vic Mignogna, who's an incredibly awesome guy I've been
working with for a few years now.
Yeah.
He's just a very close friend who's the voice of Edward Elric, and also the executive producer
and creator of Star Trek Continues, which is the original series web series, and he
plays Captain Kirk in that.
So, you got Brian Danner and his company, Sword Fights Inc., who is our stunt people
and our extras in the ambush scene, who are huge gamers and geeks themselves and do a
lot of costume stuff.
So, you got a huge pedigree of people here who just love this stuff.
We're just like, this is what we do for fun.
And to go out and get to make this and get the permission to do it was, oh my god, it
was incredible.
I want to ask you about the set for the ship, especially with you putting it together so
quickly.
I mean, were you able to build that quickly out of what was available at the soundstage?
Because it really looks great.
That set, actually, is a standing set that has looked pretty much the same.
It's a standing set, meaning that you walk in and there's a space.
Oh, yeah.
There's a spaceship hall.
There's a couple halls.
There's a couple different bridges.
You have what is typically like a medical bay.
And then they have pieces and bits that you can sort of put into it.
But what you're seeing at Laurel Canyon Stages is pretty much what they saw when they walked
in there back in 2002 and were shooting Bushwhacked.
They walked into a set that was pre-built.
Now, I initially thought that they'd built it for Firefly.
But come to find out, that set actually had existed as a spaceship set, just as a standing
set.
But for a few years prior to Firefly, probably the first more prominent use of that set, I
would say, would be Firefly.
But yeah, no, we walked in and it's sort of a shell of a spaceship.
And you have to fill it out with your art direction, your production design.
You want to build a common area.
We had to build up our own sort of cockpit look.
Our captain's quarters, we had to completely build from scratch.
So our engine room, we had to absolutely build from scratch.
All of this was the amazing work of our production designer, Paul Bianchi, who, while he's technically
not in the short, you can see him hand cranking our engine in the engine room.
If you use your x-ray vision and imagine there's a man crouched by the engine and turning it
by hand.
But no, it's an amazing location.
And we were very lucky to have a chance to shoot there.
And the people over there are...
Incredibly supportive and have just been like, when are you guys coming back?
We want to see you.
And I'm like, we want to come back, too.
So we want to come see you.
Yeah, that's just a standing set that's been there.
And you could probably go look at it today.
That's really cool.
I never knew about standing sets before.
That's cool.
Yeah.
So if you go out to the desert, for example, and you want an old gas station, they have
standing sets of that.
They have a lot of interesting standing sets out here in Los Angeles.
And that's probably the coolest one that I've ever seen.
Yeah.
I just...
I really, really enjoyed it.
Just so much more than just about any fan film of any type I've seen.
So I just...
I really appreciate that.
That's very sweet.
Yeah.
I feel like I'm geeking out a little bit.
Considering I'd never heard of you before this, it's kind of cool.
But yeah, I just really enjoyed it.
I hope you guys get a chance to make more.
Totally.
Yeah.
I think the response has been so much bigger than we had sort of hoped.
It was...
Fans especially have responded in such an amazingly flattering and just like humbling
way that you look at most of the...
Any of the articles or stuff on our Reddit threads, people are just like, when's the
next one?
When's the next one?
And I can tell you with complete certainty and with all my heart that I want to go back
and make another one.
And there have been conversations amongst the...
With Zach and Peter, my co-writers and producers, and we want to go back and do another one.
And we're not quite sure.
We're not quite sure what the plan is for that yet.
I think we're all just jonesing to get back there.
But we're going to try to figure out what the next step for that is.
We have amazing, amazing partners in Loot Crate who have been incredibly supportive
of our filmmaking efforts with them and just working with them.
As well as Quantum Mechanics was an incredible dark horse that we didn't know what to expect.
And Andy.
Andy Gore and his entire team over there basically rolled out the red carpet and said,
hey, we're big fans of the fans and we're big fans of what you're doing.
And if there's anything we can do to help, let us know.
To the point that they have been talking, and as far as I've been told, there's talks
with QMX and their new game, Firefly Online, which I'm way looking forward to.
There's going to be an exclusive.
There's going to be an exclusive digital Loot Crate that you can get once you get on the
Cortex that is sort of basically like a gift box that will give you our ship, the Overland,
which is our sort of custom-made ship and will give you certain things from our fandom
or from our fan film, including, I believe, our first, our plot to the film as one of
the missions that you can play in the game, which is like incredible.
Everybody is over the moon about that.
We get to be an official.
We get to be an official Firefly video game, which is amazing.
And I know the guys who did Bellflower must feel the same way, having their ship in the
game.
And it's just, they've been such great people.
They gave us t-shirts to use.
They gave us props.
They gave us that amazing Jane Boo pistol to use on screen.
They, you know, a bunch of MAL pistols that we customized and made into our own sort of
weapons in the game and just tons and tons of support.
And they, you know, they've...
I could not have asked for two better companies to be sort of come together and say, hey, you
guys, you know, here's the keys to the spaceship.
Go off and play.
It was like, it was a dream come true.
I couldn't, I couldn't even ask for anything better.
So we're hoping to, we're going to sit down and talk and figure out what the next step
is because we want to go back and the fans want us to go back.
And by golly, why, why would you not do what the fans want you to do, Fox?
Yeah, I mean, we have, we have, we've known QMX since they were founded.
And we've talked with them a number of times and they have just been phenomenally supportive
and wonderful people.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's been my experience as well.
Well, Julian, I know that, you know, if stars align and we all hope they do, you can do
a sequel to the verse.
In the meantime, do you have any other projects you're working on currently that you'd like
to talk about?
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm still working very regularly with Loot Crate.
I'm their sort of in-house director for their monthly theme videos, which is fun.
Yeah.
And some other amazing projects over there.
I'm not sure if I can talk about, but there's a couple of great things coming.
They're always putting together good stuff.
The last one I just released of theirs was for their monthly crate, which is a collaboration
with Capcom, the video game company, for their crate.
The theme is fear.
So we did a little four minute off the wall, zombie, crazy, Dead Rising 3 inspired short
film with them, which was a lot of fun.
And kind of a completely...
It's a completely different swing in another direction from what we had done with the verse,
but it's another fun video you can see on Loot Crate's YouTube channel.
And then personally, I'm working and have been working most of this year on a really
great passion project about...
It's a documentary about the birth of rock and roll in the 50s and the first rock and
roll band, Bill Haley and the Comets.
I've been working on that in collaboration with my father and we're making a feature
documentary out of the birth of rock and roll as a sound.
So that's been fun.
Interesting.
Do you have a name lined up and a hopeful release date for that?
It's still untitled 50s rock documentary, which is not as catchy as I would like it
to be, but we'll eventually put a name to that.
But I appreciate you asking and giving me a platform.
We're still filming for that.
So maybe when I come back to the podcast, maybe for the sequel, I can tell you a little
bit more about that.
Your projects sound really fun.
Your job sounds fun.
I can't, I honestly, I could not, I can't complain.
As I said, I've been a filmmaker out here in Los Angeles.
I moved here about 11 years ago when I was 19.
I've had the incredible luck to work with some of the most sweet and endearing and talented
people that I could ever wish to work with.
I will forever gush about the people that I work with because I feel like without them,
I'm nothing and I could not do what I do.
The actors and my co-writers and my producers.
Matt Arevalo and Chris Davis over at Loot Crate and all these people.
It's fun to be able to do what Zach always says is we get to pretend for a living.
We get to play pretend for a living and we get to do some fun.
And man, if you can't get out of bed for that every day, then I don't know what you can
get out of bed for.
Yeah.
We would love to, I mean, try to contact some of the original cast and crew.
I know that Brown Coats Redemption had a lot of amazing luck with their film for charity
and getting some cameos.
And some of the original talent and people involved.
And moving forward now, I think I would like to, I know everybody would love to try to
get somebody to jump in there and maybe do a quick cameo.
We had had some plans to have a cameo on this one.
I won't go into too much detail.
We actually shot a scene where we would have put a very familiar face into one of the scenes.
But for a couple of different reasons, very close to getting it, but it didn't quite work
out.
So maybe next time.
Yeah.
Just schedules have to coincide.
Coincide, right?
Yeah.
It's definitely, you know, it's a busy town.
It's a busy bunch of people for sure.
Well, Julian, I've got to thank you so much.
This was a wonderful interview.
And I really do hope we all get to see more of the verse.
I want to thank you guys, Les and Carrie, for having me on.
I think this is probably my first podcast ever.
So I want to appreciate, give you guys a bunch of thanks for letting me come on here and
talk about a project we all love doing very much.
And we hope to bring you some more.
That'd be awesome.
Yep.
And we all love what you did.
So fingers crossed.
Thank you guys very much.
And I love what you guys do.
Keep it up with the signal.
You know, you can't stop it.
You got to keep that message out there.
That's for sure.
Thanks.
And I'm going to keep my eye out for the unnamed 1950s music documentary.
I will let you know as soon as we get a name for it.
Thanks, Julian.
Thank you guys so much.
Have a good one.
You too.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Boston, home of Ally McBeal, one of the Broadway segments we did in season six, and also home
of Kevin Batchelder, producer, two shows, writer, two segments, host, eight shows, reader,
27 segments, including seven broadwaves, plus over a hundred emails, actor, 57 segments,
including 10 around the verse in 80 days.
and 33 Badgers World.
Newtown, over 100 new segments researched.
I'm all set for the road trip.
Take a look.
I built in a stove so I can cook food
and I've got a pull-out bed for sleeping.
I even put in a broadband internet satellite dish
so I can access the internet from anywhere in the world.
Wait a minute.
Are you telling me you built broadband internet
into a DeLorean?
The way I see it is,
if you're going to build broadband internet into a car,
why not do it with some style?
Okay, works for me.
So what's happening to the signal nowadays?
We've got a blog now.
We've put that at serenityfirefly.com slash blog
so it's easy to remember
and we're still getting emails from listeners.
Oh, can I see?
Sure.
Here's one from Frank Haar.
Let's have a look.
Dear folks,
I don't want the signal to go now that I've found it,
but I suppose all good things and all that.
And it's not like you're being paid
or anything.
I'll always remember Badger's World
and 80 Days with great fondness.
Keep flying.
Ah, that's very cool.
I know I always had a lot of fun doing both those.
You know, the 80 Days,
I've got a lot more lines in than Badger's World,
but voice acting, not my strong suit.
You want an announcer?
I'm your guy.
So it's been a lot of fun
trying to kind of stretch a little bit to do those.
So appreciate the opportunities
and it's been great seeing those
kind of come together over the years.
What's really interesting about Around the Verse and 80 Days
is that the series, it was never completed.
It was never completed.
If you pay real close attention,
at the end of the second to last episode,
Martin Hammond says something like,
next stop, the blue sun system.
But then in the next episode,
that didn't happen
because the next episode was the last episode
when the journey ended.
I remember that.
That happened because
that was when you left the signal
and we couldn't make the episodes without you.
Yep.
You never know what's going to happen with Martin
and it's been cool personally too
over all these years
getting involved in some podcasting
about genre TV and movies.
You know, I certainly expanded on that
once I left the signal crew
but this was always a great place.
This is what started it all.
You know, I've met so many people over the years
because of the podcast
and because of going to Dragon Con
with all the other Firefly fans.
Really, been life-changing stuff.
Anyway, that's why there's a gap in Around the Verse
and why we never found out
what Martin Hammond got up to
in the blue sun system.
I don't think anyone noticed
but you never can tell.
We do have some really observant listeners.
I wonder what might have happened
out there on the rim.
Of course, we'll never know now.
We'll never know.
I'm very pleased to meet you too, Martin.
So, tell me about the Beanstalk.
This here is the only functioning
space elevator in the verse.
Space elevator?
Here's how it works.
Highgate is a planet
and Stonewall is a moon.
Highgate spins once a day
and Stonewall goes around Highgate once a day.
It's in geostationary orbit
like some communication satellites.
Exactly.
And it's also tidally locked.
That means that Stonewall
is always in the air.
It's always in the exact same place
in Highgate's sky
and Highgate is always in the same place
in Stonewall's sky.
So, they join the two together
with a cable
and then they built an elevator
that goes all the way
from the planet to the moon.
Which is where we are now.
It's truly incredible.
We are actually taking a train
from one world to another
traveling on actual physical tracks
in space.
Yes, we are.
So, how long is it?
How long is the train ride?
The distance between the two stations
is 15,000 miles
and this train goes at 5,000 miles an hour.
So, that's a journey time
of about three hours.
Amazing.
I've never seen anything like it.
There is nothing like it.
Anywhere in the verse.
It's our primary tourist attraction.
Of course, it's not a rigid structure.
It has to be a little bit flexible
because the moon's orbit
is not a perfect circle.
Should we call this a train
or an elevator?
It's both.
If you're standing
on the ground
on either side
the beanstalk rises upward
into the sky
so it's an elevator.
But if you're taking the train
when you twist the gravity
at right angle
so it seems horizontal
then it's a train.
I see.
Truth is though
it's neither.
It's really a spaceship.
A spaceship on rails.
It has to be
because outside that window
it's still the black.
The view out the window
is certainly different
from any train
I've ever been on.
That's for sure.
Well, I've arrived safely
on Highgate
and I have to say
that train ride
was like nothing
I've ever experienced.
But now that I've arrived here
I should probably look around.
With me is Janice Green.
Janice, what are we eating?
Welcome to Highgate, Martin.
What you're eating is rice bread.
Rice bread?
Is that a Highgate specialty?
It's becoming more popular
on some of the other trains.
It's not like the other Outer Worlds
but it was invented here.
And this is bread
made from rice, right?
It's more like pizza bread
I would say.
But yes, it's made of rice.
And then we add various toppings.
Most tourists come here
for the beanstalk
but the stories they take home
are all about the rice bread.
Mmm.
It is certainly delicious.
In fact, I think we're going to
have to stop filming
so I can eat some more.
Excuse me, viewers.
My stay on Highgate
was not as long as I would have liked
but that's what happens
when you have to stick to a timetable.
Had I had more time
I would certainly have liked
to have stayed here longer.
Who knows?
Maybe I'll be back one day.
In the meantime,
the journey continues.
Music
We're on our way.
Where to next?
Not far.
Just across the river.
Our next destination
is Cambridge, Massachusetts.
Who are we picking up next?
An old friend.
Music
I want to ride in the DeLorean.
Not a problem.
You are more than welcome.
Claire Musso.
Producer, 12 shows.
Writer, 3 segments.
Actor, 17 segments
including 5 tale of the verse.
Reader, 34 segments
including 4 serenity speculation
and 7 broadweaves.
Editor, hundreds of segments.
Hey Claire, good to see you.
Hey, thanks Les.
By the way, I got you a present.
A present?
For me?
Here.
Open it.
It's a microphone.
I heard you're a microphone.
I heard your last show.
I know your last one got taken away.
Oh, thank you, Claire.
And it's a Samson.
The same as my last mic.
How did you know?
I think you may have mentioned it on the podcast once.
Ah, that's great.
So what have you been up to?
Tell us your story.
My story?
Hmm.
Oh, you know, I've just been doing this and that
over the past nine years.
Here, you know what?
I will tell you a different story.
Actually, I'll tell you.
A tale.
I'll tell you the tale of the verse.
That's weird.
I was sort of expecting something to happen there.
Like what?
I don't know.
I thought maybe one of you might play an old segment or something.
No, we don't do that.
Let's play a game.
Ooh, I love games.
What game?
The game is this.
You have to try to sum up Firefly
using only five lines
of dialogue from Firefly.
And you're not allowed to use any line
that anyone's used before.
I know that game.
Okay, let me think.
Firefly in five lines.
When I was asked to add an entry of my own
to the Firefly,
Firefly in five lines series,
I was excited,
but also a little nervous.
Since this will be the 19th entry in the series,
approximately 90 lines
have already been chosen thus far.
While I was told that it was okay to use lines
that others have already selected,
my competitive instincts immediately kicked in
and I told myself that I was going to try my damnedest
not to reuse any lines
just to see if I could do it.
For further fun,
I embarked upon a rewatch of Firefly in Serenity,
selected my lines,
and only then,
did I go back and compare
with what the others had chosen.
As it turned out,
only one of them had been used by someone else.
And luckily, I had some backups.
I think that this speaks not only
to the ridiculous wealth of amazing dialogue
in this series,
but also to the fact that each of us
gets something just a little different from Firefly.
Something personal to us.
So, which lines did I choose?
Let's get started.
First up, we've got this moment from Bushwhacked
when Mal is being interrogated by the commander.
Who says that Mal was on the wrong side in the war.
It may have been the losing side.
Still not convinced it was the wrong one.
This sums up Mal's attitude about the war so succinctly.
He still carries it with him every day.
And I love that even in the midst of a seemingly impossible situation,
captured by an Alliance ship and about to be bound by law,
he won't just let a comment like that slide by him.
The distinction is that much a part of who he is.
He's not afraid to say,
to admit that he lost,
but don't try to tell him that he was wrong.
Next, we've got a bit of a different side of Mal
in this gem from the end of his duel with Atherton Wing in Shindig.
Mercy is the mark of a great man.
Guess I'm just a good man.
Well, I'm all right.
This moment is glorious for so many reasons.
I mean,
who didn't want to see Ath get his due?
But to me,
this is Mal in a nutshell.
He has noble instincts and is ultimately going to show mercy,
but a classic hero figure would have walked away after saying that first bit.
The scene would have been over.
Mal is not a perfect hero by any means,
and we love him all the more for it.
This bit of dialogue and the way that he can't resist sticking Atherton with his sword,
not once,
but twice,
is hilarious and quintessential Mal.
Next up,
I've chosen a moment from SAFE,
when Kaylee is talking to Inara about a hand-carved swan they see in a shop
in the small town on Jiangyin.
What is this?
A duck?
It's a swan.
I like it.
You do?
Looks like it was made with,
you know,
a longing.
Made by a person really longed to see a swan.
I chose this because it says so much to me about Kaylee's character.
Inara looked at the swan and saw a relatively crude wood carving,
but Kaylee saw what the person who carved it might have felt.
Her empathy and kindness are refreshing,
and managed to never grate on me.
Quite the opposite,
I love her,
and I'm not someone who goes for an overabundance of sweetness, generally.
Kaylee just makes it work.
We can see in this small moment that she knows exactly what it's like to long for things you've
never seen.
It's lines like this that make Firefly so special to me.
That they put the thought into writing a character with this world view,
and then made the time to include moments like this in the show.
My next choice is from Ariel.
When Mal and Jane are arguing through the airlock door at the end of the episode,
Mal's final words to Jane are,
The next time you decide to stab me in the back,
have the guts to do it to my face.
This, of course, makes no sense.
But in the world of Firefly, it does.
We know exactly what Mal means.
This is Mal giving Jane another chance, because he's also part of his crew.
And I believe that his point sinks in for Jane,
because this kind of backwards logic is the way he himself thinks.
To me, this line epitomizes the way moments in Firefly
can slide from serious to sublime to silly and back again in the blink of an eye.
My last choice is from a conversation between Zoe and Wash.
I love their relationship, and we got a chance to explore it a bit,
in Heart of Gold, when they're preparing for the battle
and discussing the possibility of having a child.
Wash is reluctant, and Zoe says,
I don't give a good go-around about relevant, Wash, or objective.
And I ain't so afraid of losing something that I ain't gonna try to have it.
I know that she also says that they'd make one beautiful baby,
and she wants to meet that child someday.
Period.
Which is another line that I love, but the one I chose is important to me.
It's important both in my appreciation of her, and in my low-key,
important both in my appreciation for and understanding of this character, but personally
as well. I've found in my life that the thing that stops me from taking chances most often is fear,
and this line of Zoe's really hits home to me in a big way. It inspired me, made me want to be more
like her. What more could I want from a piece of entertainment, I ask you? This show has made me
laugh, made me teary, made me think, and made me just plain happy. I enjoyed my rewatch so much,
and I especially loved watching with a particular eye toward the dialogue that means Firefly to me.
Thanks for listening.
May have been the losing side. Still not convinced as a woman.
Looks like it was made with, you know, longing. Made by a person willing long to see this war.
The next time you decide to stab me in the back, I'm the guts to do it to my face.
I don't give a good girl a round about better than one. I'm objective, and I ain't so afraid of losing
something, and I ain't gonna try to have it. Mercy is the mark of a great man.
I guess I'm just a good man.
Well, I'm all right.
Nick Edwards, producer, 21 shows, host, three shows, editor,
32 segments, including three Broadway's and 18 Badger's World. Reader, 58 segments, including three
What's in a Signal, four What's Your Serenity, five Serenity Speculation, seven Editorial,
and 14 Broadway's. Writer, 75 segments, including three What's in a Signal, four Serenity Speculation,
six Editorial, nine Broadway's, and 33 Badger's World. Actor, over a hundred segments, including
16 The Shipworks, 26 The Terraformers, and 33 Badger's World.
What the bloody hell are you lot doing in Banbury?
We've come to tell you about a-
Look, whatever it is, the answer's no. I worked my fingers to the bone for you lot. I took time off
work and everything.
We're not asking for anything.
I've got that bonus show out, but does anyone appreciate that?
I think you've misunderstood.
And now you want more work out of me? First you cancelled the holiday special, and now this?
You promised me some time off.
Nick, we're inviting you to a party.
Well, why didn't you say so? I love a good party, me.
Claire? Claire Mousseau? Is that you?
It's me.
And Kevin? You've got Kevin Batchelder and all?
He's here.
Good grief. You've even got Karen. What is this, a reunion of some sort?
It's a party. We thought you might like to join in.
You got that right. Where is this party?
Africa.
Africa. And we're driving there?
All the way.
Why have the blink-connected you lot managed to drive across the pond?
I'll explain later.
I'll hold you to that, then. Right.
OK. Time to break out the new wheels.
Mink the New Bear. Vincent Black Shadow. Absolute classic.
Goes like shit off a shovel, and it'll get me to Africa.
That's what we like to hear.
And, um, well, sorry about that misunderstanding earlier.
For a minute I thought you were trying to get me to make a new episode of Fashions World.
Oh. That explains it.
Because I'm not doing that.
Whatever.
This is my goreem day.
I don't like the way you look down on me.
I'm above you. Better than...
businessmen, see?
Roots in the community.
That is well. Episode 34, Out to the Black.
A great philosopher on earth that was once observed that time is an illusion.
Lunch time, doubly so.
But illusion or not, it still seems to pass as inevitably as the turn of the worlds.
On some of those worlds, life continues much as it has and probably much as it will in the future.
On others, such as Persephone, great social change is in the air,
and a new alignment of the planets seems to be preordained in the wake of the world-shattering events
under discussion by two familiar social commentators as they meet at a popular trading post half a system away.
What do you mean Mr. Badger's gone legit?
Exactly what I said, Bert.
Badger somehow managed to become flavour of the month for some group of aristos
and he's legally registered as a trading agent uptown.
Badger? Mr. Badger? As in our old boss who we used to crack heads for on a regular basis is now a legitimate businessman?
Yep.
Pays taxes and all.
Well now I know you're pulling me leg, Harry. Mr. Badger pay taxes? You're having a laugh.
No, straight up. He's out of the docks. Got a right nice set up by all accounts and it's turning a fair profit so I hear.
Well, I'll be buggered.
Never a backward glance. Cut all his less-than-savoury ties with the docks, settled up with Chen and moved out.
He's officially part of Polite So-ci-ty.
Yes, that's what he always wanted.
Well, so you're out of a job I take it?
You could say that.
I'm kind of fed up with the whole thing with Badger anyway.
That's the spirit, Harry. Hmm, funny you saying that Badger's gone legit.
Why is that?
Well, he's not the only one.
You're shitting me.
Sometime later, when Harry has gathered up his jaw from the floor,
So, let me get this straight. You managed to make that false leg scam thing actually work?
With your assistance, I might add.
And then, not only did you claim the reward for finding the missing nanotech,
but because the rogue terraforming crew who'd originally hired you to smuggle it got themselves raided by the Alliance and then blowed up in a freak accident involving mysteriously reprogrammed nanotech,
flammable ball grounds, and a monkey with a blowtorch, you're not even on the run from them?
That was a very eloquent bit of exposition there, Harry.
Well, I had to listen to you do it often enough.
Fair enough. So, yeah, I managed to come up smelling of, if not actually roses, then at least not of the ghosts that I'd normally expect to find myself in after pulling a stunt like that.
Made enough money to do something I've always wanted to do.
Buy a pub?
Close, but my little lotus blossom had some...
Well, the perm views on that.
Wouldn't let you, huh?
Very astute. So I bought a ship. Master and commander of my very own boat.
Why do you think I wanted to meet up at this place? Perfect for scaring up a nice little earner of a job for me and my crew.
I've still got the sound of that.
Oh, Tom, I do.
And so, a new chapter begins for our esteemed protagonists as they transition from a life of crime to an adventure on the high seas of space,
trading around the verse for honest coin.
Never sure where their fine ship may take them, but living for the moment, out in the black, as so many have before them.
Who is that guy?
I don't know. Seems kind of familiar.
Anyway, it seems to me that you're in need of gainful employment, and I'm in need of a stout yeoman with which to entrust certain duties as might be required from time to time by the proud owner and principal stockholder of the Kepler light-bolt transport, wasn't it? Namely, my good sir.
Huh.
You need a job? I'm hiring.
Oh, well, oh, never mind. What kind of job?
Public relations, officer. What sort of job do you think, you dozy prat?
Oh, that sort of job.
Of course, I do miss the occasional chance to come to someone, especially if they're getting right and right tips, but I have to employ people now to do that, otherwise it don't do the respectable image any good. Mr Badger at least got that bit right.
But this is where you come in, Tom.
This is where you come in, Harry.
Uh-huh. This would be for a decent cut, then.
Your own bunk and everything.
Everything being what, exactly?
Ah, I see our frequent past discussions on remuneration have at least taught you to get things straight before you say yes. Very wise. What would you say to ten percent?
I'd say keep talking. I might be listening.
Very good. Maybe I did teach you something.
Fifteen percent of every job, plus a retainer during downtime at least equal to what Mr Badger used to pay us.
I'd say I think we have an understanding.
Well, I'll drink to that. Chen!
Hippie.
Uh, Bert.
Sorry, Harry. Old habits, you know. I do miss Chen's, though. Say what you like about the decor, the disturbing experimental cocktails, the occasional explosion. She knew how to keep a decent pint, even back in the old days.
Do you remember the first pint of throat wobbler you ever tasted?
How could I forget?
Meanwhile, in Chen's Throat Emporium, a grizzled veteran henchman prepares to...
Oy, less of the grizzled, thank you very much.
Ah, prepares to meet the new kid in town. What the heck? So unprofessional, honestly.
Evening, Chen. Pint of the usual.
Oh, it's you again. Look, no more breaking chairs over customers' heads, don't ma?
What? The idiot pulled a gun on you because you wouldn't serve him?
He'd had more than enough. Besides, the safety was on. I've had worse things pointed at me.
Of no doubt. So, no thanks for performing a public service, then?
Shishi.
You're welcome. Would that thanks extend as far as a pint on the house?
Don't push it, Buster.
But...
Whatever. You drink, you pay. What do you want?
The amber nectar? Liquid bread? No? A pint of your finest ale, then? Or the nearest non-toxic equivalent?
I have to change the barrel. Find a table.
Fair enough. I'm meeting the new fella, so better make it two pints. I'll claim it as training expenses.
Hey, is there some guy called Bart in here? Works for Badger.
What? Oh, him. Over there.
You're the guy Badger said to meet in here.
Mr. Badger to you, sunshine. Henry, I presume?
Harry. So you'd be Bart?
Oh, I can see this is gonna go well. But...
So let's get this straight. We drink, then we talk business.
As long as it's beer.
Ah. I can see this might not be as bad as I thought. Yes. Beer. Or what passes for it in these parts. And right on cue...
Well?
Harry, is it? I believe in these circumstances it is incumbent on the new inductee to provide for refreshment.
Huh.
Pay the lady. Then we'll talk.
Oh, right. Sure. Here.
No tip?
Never serve oysters unless there's an hour in the month.
Fine.
I'll just have a little bit of that.
Meanwhile, back in what passes for the real world...
Is he going to do that every time we try to remember the old days?
We'll bug it if I know.
Look, good beer aside, and I will be laying in a good stock of brew from my local on Albion, just so you know.
Do we have a deal? And are there any awkward questions or loose ends you need to tie up?
But you know I'm on board with this. It'd be fun to make some new good old times, but...
Oh, here it comes.
But why a Kepler?
What?
I mean, why not a Komodo, say? You can get a hell of a lot more cargo in one of them. Or even a Firefly if you're looking to go mid-boat class.
Well look who's the expert now he's got a berth on the ship.
Look, I'm going for low volume high value. I learnt that lesson with the nano episode. Komodo's too big for what I need and you may have noticed that anybody with a Mark 3 Firefly still gets an awful lot of extra attention from the feds.
Reynolds has got a lot to answer for on that front.
Oh, so you're not going for an Orion cruiser like the old Brutus?
What should I think not? Utterly fugly death traps.
Why not a Scarab or a Sandfly then?
Good choices, but the Kepler's got a slightly better operational record. It's more manoeuvrable than a Scarab and it's bigger than a Sandfly.
I'm not going for a packet post operation like the Bellflower. Plus the previous owner owed me a favour. I was able to knock him down to a bargain price.
What, with Mr. Landpipe and his associates?
No, that's what I need you for. Fucker me if I haven't gone and got myself all respectable. No, there's none of that old malarkey for me.
Unless it's an emergency.
Well they really, really deserve it.
Boy, you two never change, do you?
I don't bloody believe this.
Chen? I mean how the... aren't you... it's not... what the hell is going on?
Heh, your face.
Miss Bird.
Have you played bodyguard on the trip? Out to my newest acquisition? It's going to need a lot of work, I can tell. Hello, Mr. Bird.
Um, the how, Chen? Um, I'm speechless.
Makes a change.
Look, it's simple. I own this bar now. I own several on different planets, in fact. Once Badger settled with me and I held full title, I didn't have to put up with his somewhat limited vision of commercial success.
Though I actually won this place in an unusually lucrative session of towel card.
Bird?
Hm? Oh, no, no, I still got nothing.
Sorry to steal your thunder, Mr. Bird. I guess we've both made out pretty well. We've come quite a long way since the old days.
Meanwhile, in Chen's Throat Emporium, during somewhat leaner times, a noble tradition is initiated.
Evening, Chen. Um, I can't believe I'm going to do this. A glass of water, please.
You feeling alright, Mr. Bird?
Oh, a bit lighter than usual in the wallet department. Temporary, of course. But don't suppose you could start a tab up for us?
Oh, no. Not after what happened the last time.
Well, it wasn't my fault a flaming sambuca got a bit out of hand. It only singed things a bit.
It burnt all my records, of course.
Burnt all my records of what you owed?
Unforeseen side effect. Anyway, you know I pay up eventually.
The word is occasionally, Mr. Bird. You occasionally pay up.
Yeah, well. Well, don't suppose Harry got around in already, did he?
No.
Bollocks.
Harry?
Hi, Bird.
What's up with you?
Oh, nothing.
Look, Bird. I got a bit of a problem. Badger's not being exactly forthcoming with our wages at the moment.
Oh, you've noticed, have you? I thought your various sidelines kept you in drinking money, at least.
What? Oh, yeah. No, what I mean is, I don't suppose it's worth asking Badger for an advance, is it? Might hurry him up with what we're already owed.
You suppose right, Harry. Mr. Badger is, well, I believe the technical term is tight arsed.
But he is our employer, also, technically. But it's not always wise to bite the hand that might feed you, at some unspecified point in the future.
You could just have said no.
Well, you see, I've got a bit of a problem, too.
Oh? What's yours?
Oh, tar very much. Mine's a pint.
What? Oh, I get it. Pretty sneaky of you there, Bird. Well, okay. I guess you could use a drink, too.
But don't be trying that sort of thing again, okay?
As if.
Meanwhile, back to the future in Chen's newest throat emporium.
Right, that's it. I'm introducing him to Winona this time.
Much as on Earth it was, our...
Oh, shit.
Ah!
What a strange man.
It was a strange old verse, Chen. At least Harry's having fun.
A lot of change is coming.
Well, you said it. I mean, who'd have thought Badger would end up an actual respectable businessman?
I mean, it's like someone was making this all up for their own perverted amusement.
Persephone really is Badger's world now, and he's bloody welcome to it.
There's no room for the likes of me and Harry there these days, and legit or not, I think I'll steer clear.
Think he's forgiven and forgotten yet?
Not a chance, Bert. He might not be obvious about it, but you're still definitely person non... whatchamacallit.
Figures.
Never mind, Mr. Bert. Here, I have something for you.
Well, how did you know I'd be here?
Hello? Travelling with Harry? He let it slip less than an hour at a port that you two had a meeting. Here.
Is that what I think it is?
Yeah, it comes in bottles now.
On the house?
On the house.
Well, I'll be badgered.
Tell her very much for a lovely night.
What is this place?
It's called Melton Peak.
But there's nothing here but roundabouts.
And concrete cows. I saw some concrete cows earlier on.
Well, this is where Jill lives, so this is where we need to be.
Jill Arroway. Producer. 99 shows.
Writer. Hundreds of segments, including 13 The Shipworks, 16 Borderline, and 29 Broadway's.
Editor. Hundreds of segments, including 13 Badger's World, 27 Broadway's.
This is the place, but there's no one here.
Hang on a sec. She's left a note.
It says, going to start a new podcast.
Well, that's charming.
Ah, no, there's more.
Look, it says, you're welcome to join me if you want.
The podcast will be called Broadwaves, based on the Signal segment of the same name.
The first episode will be in 2016 because I want a year off.
There'll be articles, live chat, listening emails, and more.
Well, I'm in.
Count me in, too. I've got lots of shows I want to talk about.
Yeah, I'm in for that. This could be a good one.
Give me that note.
It ends, also see you at the shindig. I'll make my own way there.
All right, then. Let's get moving. Where to next?
We head south to Farnham.
I have to say, I do like...
I like this new podcast idea.
It means that something of the Signal will survive, after all.
But how will we tell the listeners about it?
The blog.
Remember, I keep telling you about the blog I made.
Serenityfirefly.com slash blog.
She's right, you know.
Anyone subscribed to the blog will know straight away when our new podcast is ready to go.
Hmm. Broadwaves. Broadwaves. Broadwaves.
I like the sound of that.
Broadwaves.
That sounds like science fiction.
Ooh, shiny.
This segment may contain minor spoilers or clips from episodes you haven't seen.
Like werewolves, dear, but it won't bite you.
If you wish to skip this segment, please fast forward 17 minutes.
Today, I want to talk about Wolfblood.
It's a show about werewolves.
Well, except not.
It's a werewolf show, with a difference.
First off, let me get the basics out of the way.
Wolfblood is a TV show co-produced by CBBC in England and ZDF in Germany.
It's made for children, or at least for young adults.
That means our heroes are all teenagers.
It also means you won't encounter any sex or violence, or nudity, or swearing.
But it is not tame.
Our hero is Maddie Smith, a teenage girl who lives in a village called Stonybridge,
and who, along with all of her friends,
goes to Bradlington High School.
Her best friends are Tom and Shannon, and her teacher is Mr. Jeffreys.
Maddie and her family are wolfbloods.
Pay attention to that word.
It's wolfblood, not werewolf.
Tom's there!
What could you do? This is dangerous.
I'm certain you're a werewolf.
I'm not a werewolf. I'm a wolfblood.
In classic werewolf mythology, werewolves are born human
and become monsters as a result of having been bitten by a progenitor werewolf.
That's not how it works here.
In this series,
wolfbloods are an entirely separate species.
They are not, and never have been, human.
If you were born human, you stay human.
If you were born wolfblood, you stay wolfblood.
Wolfbloods have co-existed with humans for centuries.
But back in the distant past, humans hunted wolfbloods nearly to extinction.
And so now, they keep their existence secret.
Wolfbloods don't kill humans, they run.
It's not safe for us out there.
What if we got shot up by a farmer or we'd walk into a point,
Or we'd walk into a point,
poacher's trap. All it takes is one person to spot us and then they'll hunt us down. It's what
they do. Tell me that you understand that, Maddy. Maddy Smith was born Wolfblood, to Wolfblood
parents. As our story begins, she has never transformed, but her first transformation will
happen soon, and she knows it. She's going to have to deal with that, along with the responsibility
of keeping the existence of Wolfbloods a secret. Amidst all of this, a new boy joins the school,
Rydian Morris, and there is something a little different about Rydian. You smell like my parents.
Indeed, Rydian is a Wolfblood too, but unlike Maddy, he doesn't have parents to prepare him
for the change. He grew up with foster parents who thought he was human and knew nothing of
Wolfblood history. Then, one full moon, he transformed and ended up getting evicted from
his foster home. That's how he ended up in Stony Bridge. I knew there was something about you.
It's true, isn't it? You're like me. You're like me. Not like you. I don't show off and pick fights
and invade other packs' territory. You're a danger to us all, and the sooner you leave, the better.
Well, they soon figure it out. There was something important I had to... What? More important than
the photography club, yeah? Yeah, actually. Rydian is more important than the club. The thing is,
Rydian and I...
are related. Distant cousins. He's the black sheep of the family, and I didn't want him here.
So I treat him badly, which is why he lashed out and trashed the darkroom. You don't have to be
best friends, but Rydian's part of my life now. And that's that. Wolfblood is, at least in part,
an allegory of growing up. It's not easy being a teenager and being different.
Maddy's mum and dad are loving, caring, and protective,
and part of being a teenager is the journey into adulthood. Striking out on your own,
developing new skills. It's hard, doing all of that, and having to deal with being a wolfblood, too.
Right, that's it. You're not going to school tomorrow. What? I'll email Mr. Jeffries. I'll
just say you're ill. I'm okay. You're on the brink of transforming.
Have you got a quote with a week of exams? No way. I worked far too hard for this.
I'll be fine. The series is allegorical in another way, too. It deals very strongly with prejudice.
Maddy and Rydian must keep their wolfblood heritage secret because of fear.
Because they are afraid of what would happen to them and to their community, should anyone find out.
It's just really good having someone my age to, like, share this stuff with.
Yeah, that goes for me as well. Because I've always hated keeping it a secret from my friends.
But keep it secret they must. It gets better. Maddy's best friend Shannon has a different story.
She's human, but once, when she was a girl,
she encountered a wolfblood in wolf form while out camping on the moors. She tried to tell people,
but no one believed her. At first, she was accused of making up the whole story.
After that, she was accused of being crazy. Shannon is the smart one, a scientist, an investigator,
and she has a strong need to prove to the world that she's not mad, that there really is a beast
of Stony Bridge. From a handful of clues, she reaches the conclusion that Maddy is the beast
she's been looking for, a werewolf.
Two competing theories. One, they're dating, and two, she's...
What we need is evidence.
Yes, I said werewolf, not wolfblood.
In the canon of this series, humans erased wolfbloods from history centuries ago,
and now all that survived are legends. Wolfbloods, in other words, are the source of today's
werewolf myths. The word wolfblood is known only to the wolfbloods themselves. But of course,
the one thing that wolfbloods have in common with the werewolves of legend is that, on the full moon,
they transform.
And now, full moon is approaching. Maddy plans to do, as her parents and ancestors have done
for centuries, to transform in the safety of her own home.
This is my first transformation. I want to be with my family, and you promised you'd
spend full moon with her. So there's nothing else to talk about, is there?
As it turns out, Maddy doesn't get her wish. Trapped on an island during a school trip,
she and Rydian have no choice but to head out into the open.
And now, this is where wolfblood shines. This is the scene that won me over, that turned me into
a full-blown wolfblood fan. Because, you see, the transformation of Rydian and Maddy into wolf form
is beautiful.
I'm really устрой.
The way Rydian looks at me and my father depressed me who already had UOK.
In the end, she thinks it's just a shell.
The sacrifice of the ihm thanks you, the base in the UOK sank to itself
Of course, it's a small Super Under' at which Rydian joined the Personal choice and never took part in.
For many werewolves, Rydian expecting to also الージ yestomo so much as ne'er see to love to live.
To be continued...
We'll get it now.
Being a wolf, though, is going to be so great.
Back to Shannon.
Here's the big conflict of the series.
Maddie has a need to keep her wolf blood existence a secret,
but Shannon has a need to expose it.
If Maddie and Shannon were enemies, this would be a very simple story.
But they're not.
They're the closest of friends.
This is all deliciously complicated.
Stop pacing, Shan.
I can't. This is going to rock the world, Tom.
Who cares? Our best friend's unconscious and it might be something serious.
Yeah.
I don't like the fact she's a werewolf.
Look, these test results are going to prove it and you'll see.
And then what?
What do you mean, and then what?
Well, let's just say, for the sake of this argument, you are right,
which I don't believe, but then what?
Maddie's supposed to be our best friend.
What do you think will happen to her?
I don't know.
I do.
They'll cart her off somewhere, lock her up,
and get loads of tests run on her, and we'll never see her again.
Is that what you want?
Of course not.
Exactly.
As the story progresses, Maddie and Rydian do manage to keep their secret,
but this has consequences for Shannon.
This matters.
Hey, don't ask.
You only hate me with good reason.
I could never hate you, Shannon.
You're my best friend in the whole world.
You wouldn't say that if you knew what I've been saying about you.
What?
That I'm your beast on the moors?
You knew?
Of course I did.
Having been accused of insanity once before,
Shannon now finds herself in the frame for being delusional once again.
Maddie can offer her help,
she can offer comfort and friendship, of course,
but even so, she still can't reveal her secret.
It leads to some...
tense moments.
Look, I know how important this is to you.
You have no idea.
Everyone thinks I'm a town weirdo.
No, they don't.
Yes, they do.
Look.
My parents took me to see a doctor,
and they've talked about medication.
I've got to see a psychiatrist.
What?
Why?
Because of what I said.
I said about you.
Look, I need to know if there's something out there.
I need to know that I'm not going completely crazy.
Oh, Shannon, you're not.
You're really not.
Look, don't patronize me.
I told my mum you were a werewolf.
I'll give you one good reason why that makes me sane.
All of which leads Maddie to question the whole notion
of keeping who she is a secret,
at least from her friends.
Perhaps wolfbloods have been in the closet for too long.
Perhaps it's time to come out.
Perhaps it's time to stand up and say,
I am a wolfblood,
and be proud of that.
But, oh boy,
the consequences of that could be terrifying.
I can't keep lying to them, Rydian.
Look what it's done to Shannon.
You'll feel ten times worse
when they're broadcasting the news to the rest of the world.
They wouldn't do that.
How do you know that?
What if they can't handle it?
What if you fall out with them?
I'll take that risk.
This isn't about you.
It's about all of us.
Me, your mum and dad.
All wolfbloods.
My friends will understand that.
Don't you think friendship is an excuse?
Is this about you feeling guilty?
It's about me living truthfully for once.
You can't for a reason.
Why is it that wolfbloods have kept themselves hidden for so many years,
even in the wild ones?
It's because human beings wipe most of us out.
Wolfblood turns the whole werewolf legend on its head.
This is a story in which wolfbloods are scared of humans,
rather than the other way around.
In which, rather than being an abomination of nature,
wolfbloods are a part of the natural order,
and not all of them live in human society.
Some choose to live in the woods,
in the forests,
in the moors,
and it's you, human civilization.
These are the wild wolfbloods,
Rydian's true origin.
Feel the earth under you.
Feel the wind over you.
Feel the grass,
and the clouds,
and the sky.
You are part of everything.
You are nature.
Even when in human form,
wolfbloods have enhanced abilities,
superpowers if you like.
They have enhanced hearing,
superior sense of smell,
better coordination.
They can run fast and far,
and they have the ability to tune into nature
to track what's around them.
I can see everything.
Can you hear everything?
This is amazing.
Everything I have told you so far
is from season 1,
but this BAFTA nominated series has 3 seasons,
and the stories in seasons 2 and 3
vastly expand the wolfblood universe.
We meet many new wolfbloods,
and many new humans wanting to know about them.
The series is available on DVD.
For some reason,
wolfblood has not been released on DVD in the UK,
but seasons 1 and 2 are available as region 2 imports from Germany,
and you can watch it either
original English soundtrack or a German dub. It's a wonderful DVD set, and unlike the original
CBBC presentation, it's not spoiled by previouslys and next-time-ons. I assume that Season 3
will be along shortly. In the U.S., Seasons 1 and 2 are already available on Region 1
DVD, with Season 3 due out in January of 2015. Also, the first two seasons are available
on Netflix streaming in the U.S. as well. Again, I imagine the third season may follow
soon. There are plenty of other good things about this show that I haven't had time to
mention. The other characters in this show, Maddy's school friends, their teacher, and
the other Wolfbloods are all well-rounded and enjoyable. But I've run out of time for
this review, so I'll close with one final clip, because it reminded me of a scene from
Firefly. I'm sure this is accidental, but even so, it made me smile.
So next time you lose control of your wolf self, what happens then?
Well, uh, that'll be an interesting day, won't it?
I promise that I keep, I'll never share, I'll never speak to my graver secret ghost.
The beating heart, the beating heart of an instant creature wandered far through these
veins of wolf blood flows. A change will come, I know. Behold my future.
That sure as day returns tonight. The passion of my clan, to be at one with them, and hidden
from the world outside. I promise that I keep, I'll never share, I'll never speak to my graver
secret ghost. The beating heart, the beating heart of an instant creature wandered far
through these veins of wolf blood flows.
I promise that I keep, I'll never share, I'll never speak to my graver secret ghost.
The beating heart, the beating heart of an instant creature wandered far through these veins of
wolf blood flows. I promise that I keep, I'll never share, I'll never speak to my graver secret ghost.
The beating heart, the beating heart of an instant creature wandered far through these veins of
wolf blood flows. I promise that I keep, I'll never share, I'll never speak to my graver secret ghost.
The beating heart, the beating heart of an instant creature wandered far through these veins of
wolf blood flows. I promise that I keep, I'll never share, I'll never speak to my graver secret ghost.
The beating heart, the beating heart of an instant creature wandered far through these veins of
wolf blood flows. I promise that I keep, I'll never share, I'll never speak to my graver secret ghost.
A change will come, I know
Behold my future
As sure as day returns tonight
The passion of my clan
To be at one with them
And hidden from the world outside
A promise that I keep
I'll never share, I'll never speak
To migrate the secret ghosts
The beating heart, the beating heart
Of mystic creatures wandered far
Through these veins of wolf blood flow
A promise that I keep
I'll never share, I'll never speak
Through these veins of wolf blood flow
Guys, you showed up!
Thanks for letting me join your convoy.
Matthew Tyler Jones
Interviewer, one interview
After, six segments
Reader, thirteen segments
Including three serenity speculations
Writer, twenty-three segments
Including seven broadwaves
We wouldn't dream of going without you, Matthew.
This is Carolyn. Carolyn, meet Matthew.
Hi, Matthew, nice to meet you.
And you!
I'd offer you a lift, but we've just got the bike and sidecar
And probably not enough room for you in there as well as the toddler.
Ha ha, that little man.
Oh, what a cutie.
There's plenty of other vehicles.
I'm sure there'll be no problem getting a ride.
It's okay.
I have my own car, a Lotus Elise, and I'll be fine.
Oh, and in case anyone needs a tow,
I brought some...
Cable.
See?
I'm not sure that will work.
That's electrical cable, not towing cable.
It'll do.
We're browncoats.
We make things work.
And that's important, because now that there's no more signal,
it'll be down to the browncoats.
Oh, speaking of browncoats,
we've got some emails.
I'm not surprised.
Here, give me one of those.
Okay, here's one.
This is from Oliver Esmond.
Hmm, let me see.
Carrie, Les, and all the Signal crew, past and present.
As a long-time listener,
I was sad to hear that the Signal is finally going dark.
I've been kept entertained and informed
on all things verse-related by your show
for the past nine seasons.
I've particularly enjoyed the comedic series
such as The Terraformers and Badger's World,
and I'll never forget the unexpectedly
Joss-like ending of Borderline.
I just wanted to let you know
how much I've appreciated your efforts over the years,
and I wish you the best of luck for the future.
So long, and thanks for all the Firefly.
Oliver.
Well, that's great.
Well, that's great to read,
and I have some sympathy with him,
because, of course, for many seasons, I was a listener.
It's only in the last couple that I've been contributing.
Oh, man, Borderline, that takes me back.
I loved playing Romana Ling.
I generally don't think that I'm very good with the voice acting,
but I can do professional
in sounding like I'm reading something very well.
And so it was just a fun part for me,
and Jill, of course, got to write in some singing for me,
which I thought was fantastic.
I love to sing, and I don't have a horrible voice.
And I was surprised to find out
that she was going to die.
You know, I was totally up for the shocking ending.
Jill let me know, and I said,
oh, that's fine.
You know, I'm just the actor.
You know, you can kill me off.
But that's cool.
It was a fun part, and I won't lie,
I was definitely bummed a little bit
that I didn't get to play her anymore.
But it was fun while it lasted,
and I'm glad to be back.
Even without the signal, browncoats will go on.
Absolutely they will.
We did our bit,
but we're not the only browncoats out there.
There's a life in the Firefly community,
and I don't see that changing any time soon.
In fact, if we still had the signal,
I'd probably write an article about it.
The Raggedy Edge
Written and read by Matthew Tyler-Jones
So, here's us.
Let's go.
Standing on the Raggedy Edge
Staring into that place of nothing
People say just the thought of all that nothingness
is enough to turn a sane man into a reaver.
This show has been with me for most of my time as a browncoat.
Unlike some crewmates, I started out as a listener.
I can't recall quite how I discovered the signal,
but it was pretty early on, only a few episodes in.
Back then, of course, shows like this were easier to discover,
because there were a lot of people
and there weren't so many podcasts around.
Nowadays, people will make a podcast about any old piece of tat.
I'm not distracted, though.
I still listen to, and anticipate each episode of,
just two podcasts.
And now, one of them is ending.
The signal has been my true companion
since not long after I watched the DVDs.
This podcast, ably assisted by the old UK Browncoats Forum,
helped me contain my anxiety,
anticipation, and control my mounting excitement
as the big damn movie got more and more real.
And then, it helped me expand the verse in my imagination.
However, more than what it did for me,
before I ever got the chance to write for it,
is what I believed it did for us all.
It was the glue that helped turn fans the world over
into an international community.
But all good things must come to an end.
Thank you.
And to the end of that international community of browncoats,
of course not.
We hold.
And many of us do more than hold.
We create.
We expand.
Look at all the shiny new stuff we have.
As I write, QMX, a company built out of Firefly love,
have been showing off some of the graphics
of their new Firefly MMO in New York.
These guys have come a long way
since we interviewed them in season two.
Meanwhile, MWP,
just released another supplement for the Firefly tabletop RPG. Entitled Things Don't Go Smooth,
it details the seamier side of the verse and offers game masters a whole new range of antagonists
for their crews, each one pushing the story of the verse out in a new direction. And that's
not all. They've promised us a smuggler's guide to the verse out after the holidays
and a whole campaign written by the Joss Whedon of RPGs, Robin D. Laws.
The Firefly board game has a new expansion too. Blue Sun pushes their Firefly licence
into Universal's Serenity territory, featuring Miranda and Mr Universe alongside Atherton
Wing, who, since his humiliation at the tip of Mal's inexpertly wielded blade, has decided
to become a starship captain. These are all the board game, the role-playing game, the
MMO, offering us new Firefly stories.
In Inquisition.
Infinite variety. As though we needed any. Fans have been producing their own fiction
ever since the series hit our TV screens, and more and more is being produced every
year. I just checked fanfiction.net, and yup, new Firefly story got published there just
an hour ago.
Collectors subscription service Lootcrate recently teamed with QMX to put out a 15-minute
fan film called The Verse, featuring an all-new crew that I could stand to hear a little more
from.
Meanwhile, the series is now in production.
Another fan film from a couple of professional 3D modellers is in production.
In academic circles, there have in the last year been two calls for papers in Firefly
and Serenity, one for another book on Firefly, and one for a second Firefly-themed issue
of Slayage, the academic journal of Whedon Studies. So, look out for both those publications
in the coming months.
Can't Stop the Serenity seems to bring in more money for charity every year.
I remember sitting in Regent's Park for the picnic we put together to follow the very
first CSTS in London, with a woman called Wendy, who had in fact organised that London
showing. She said in passing,
The signal's great, but we need a Firefly podcast with a British voice. To be honest,
I wasn't sure we did, really, but she went ahead and made it, and sending a wave is still
going strong, so not even iTunes is going to be bereft of Firefly discussion after the
signal's passing.
So, we ain't really staring into a place of nothing. It's up to you now to make the
signal go further.
Whether you choose to make up stories round a table with your friends or online in next
year's MMO, whether you choose to keep those stories to you and your circle, or publish
them for us all to enjoy, you may even want to start your own podcast. Whatever you do,
the crew of the signal will, each of us, be watching.
What will you?
Show us.
I want to finish with a quote from Joss.
It came right at the end of the 10th Firefly reunion panel at San Diego Comic-Con. The
chair asked Joss what the fans meant to him. He was stuck for words for a moment, and teared
up a little, which resulted in a standing ovation that almost drowned out what he wanted
to say.
So, rather than share a clip, let me read from the transcript.
When I see you guys, I don't think the show's off the air.
I think there's a show.
I think that's what the world is like.
I think there's spaceships.
I think there's horses.
The story is alive.
Andy King, producer, seven shows, interviewer, two interviews, writer, four segments, host,
six shows, reader, 14.
After, 36 segments, including seven Earthburn and 19 The Shipworks.
Editor, 67 segments, including four Firefly in Five Lines, five News from the Verse, five
editorial, eight Earthburn, and 14 The Terraformers.
So, let me get this straight.
You're on a road trip.
You've driven across America and across England, and you're heading for Africa.
To Tanzania, yes.
It was Les' idea.
Are you in?
I'm in.
What are we going to do when we get there?
Reminisce about the old times?
And look forward to the new.
Some of us are starting a new podcast.
Who?
Me, Craig, Nick, and Jill.
Remember the Broadway segment?
We're setting it loose from the signal, turning it into a podcast in its own right.
Count me in.
But that doesn't really have anything to do with Tanzania.
Tanzania, well, it's just a party.
Is it bring your own beer?
I'm pretty sure Les has something in mind, but you can if you want.
Didn't The Shipworks have a trilogy based around beer?
We did.
And told him for first order.
Just like the song titles.
What song titles?
Ah, well, you see, The Shipworks was full of these little nuggets, but you had to look hard for them.
It rewards the attentive listener, as Jill would say.
I like that.
Another thing I liked about The Shipworks was that it had a circular ending.
I'm not sure I follow.
I mean, they went full circle.
They all ended up back where they started.
At the start of the series, there was just Austin and Leroy and Chance.
And then Lenore came along, and she became the focus of the story.
Then she left.
And it was just Austin and Leroy and Chance.
Full circle.
Except that now, Lenore is off exploring the verse on her own.
Right.
Do you ever wonder how Austin and Leroy and Chance are doing now?
Wouldn't it be great if no one ever got offended?
And wouldn't it be great to say what's really on your mind?
I've always said all the rules are made forbidden.
And if I let my head run...
Would that be such a crime?
The Shipworks.
Gang Afterglay.
By Jill Arroway.
Swish.
Leroy.
Swish, swish, swish.
Leroy.
Chance.
What's up?
If Austin comes in, distract him.
What do you mean?
Just keep him occupied.
Don't let him out into the yard.
Why not?
It's best if you don't know.
Right-o.
If you must know, I've got a little side venture going on.
I'm expanding into the fashion business.
It's nothing Austin could object to, but just in case.
Gotta go.
Swish.
Uh, swish, swish.
What are you doing, Leroy?
Practicing.
Dare I ask?
Practicing what exactly?
Martial arts.
I've been taking lessons.
Really?
Any martial art in particular, or just martial arts generally?
Sorry, Austin.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Well, this course you're doing.
What is it?
Karate?
Judo?
Jiu-Jitsu?
I wouldn't know that, Austin.
It's just martial arts.
Look, I can do this.
Ow!
What are you doing?
Paralysing you.
No, you're not.
You're just stabbing me in the side of your fingers and then twisting your hand.
Sorry to disappoint you, Leroy, but you can't paralyse people by doing that.
Yes, you can.
No.
You can't.
Malcolm Reynolds says you can, except it doesn't work on him because he had that nerve cluster
moved when he got hit by Shrapnel in the war.
It doesn't work on anyone, Leroy, because nobody has a nerve cluster in their side.
Some people might.
No, they don't.
And even if they did, which they don't, but if they did, jabbing at them with your fingers
still wouldn't cause paralysis.
It would just hurt a bit.
Gravy, you'll be telling me next that pinching someone on the shoulder can make them fall unconscious.
Um.
What?
That was going to be the next lesson.
I think you've been wasting your money there, Leroy.
You're right, Austin.
Excuse me.
I want to buy some mud.
This is Jiang Ying, not Higgins Moon.
Yes, yes.
Very funny.
I'd like one of your mud packs, please.
Excuse me.
I think you might be a little confused.
This is Austin's Shipworks.
We're a shipworks.
You know, we buy, sell and repair spaceships.
Yes.
But you also sell mud packs.
You're taking the piss.
No.
Look.
See?
I read this advertisement in Jiang Ying Fashion Weekly.
Moisturizing mud packs.
See?
Guaranteed to remove wrinkles and other signs of aging.
Do you know anything about this?
No, Austin.
And neither does Chance.
Chance.
Chance!
Get in here!
Yes, boss?
Sorry, boss.
I was expecting mail orders.
I didn't expect to get a mail order.
I'm sorry.
I didn't expect anyone to actually show up asking for...
Chance's Miracle Moisturizing Mud.
All right, then.
Let's see the product.
This isn't special mud.
It's just mud.
As advertised.
Waterlogged mud at that.
Have you been digging up my yard?
Just a ditch round back.
You told me to clear it.
I'm sorry, madam.
There seems to have been some misunderstanding.
My employee seems to have confused a worthless tub of clay
with a miracle rejuvenation formula.
Now, if you'd like to buy any spaceship parts...
Chance, explain.
Do you have any idea how much that woman was willing to pay?
Madam!
Madam, I misspoke!
Come back!
I wanna be consequence free
I wanna be where nothing needs to matter
I wanna be consequence free
Hello?
Miss Propertin?
Yes.
I'd like to cancel my martial arts lessons.
Probably a dozen of us working around the clock.
Sending away the UK Firefly Serenity Podcast.
Find us via iTunes, like us on Facebook, follow us on Twitter.
Welcome to the verse Londinium style.
Excellent.
Hello, everyone.
Welcome to Delft, here in the Netherlands.
Did you come through the Channel Tunnel?
Actually, no.
I'll explain later.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Paul Korsvagen.
10 shows.
2 shows.
6 segments.
9 segments, including 5 of the shipworks.
After?
6 segments.
After?
6 segments.
After?
13 segments, including 3 the shipworks and 4 Earthburn.
Editor?
Over 100 segments, including 5 Diary of a Companion, 6 interviews, 12 feedback, 13 the
shipworks, and 22 banter.
So, Paul.
You've heard about our little adventure?
Absolutely.
I have been looking forward to it ever since Les found me.
I have my own transport and everything.
Marvellous.
What have you got?
We've got all sorts of wacky vehicles on this road trip.
Kevin's even got a DeLorean, just like him.
Yeah.
He's got a DeLorean.
Just like him back to the future.
I don't get it.
This is my transport.
But that's a bicycle.
Why not?
I love my little bicycle.
Look, it's got a bell, it has high speed gears, some hand brakes.
It has even a little dynamo for the lights.
But you'll never keep up with us.
Did Les not tell you we're going to East Africa?
No he...
East Africa?
We're going to Tanzania.
To Helen's place.
Ah.
Well, I'll take you there.
I'll take you there.
Look, I'll tell you what we'll do.
Take the bike with you, stick it in the back of Kerry's RV and you can grab a lift with
me.
Okay, works for me.
Can I bring some DVDs for entertainment?
Sure.
We can't watch them when I'm driving, obviously.
What have you got?
Among other things, I have Shakespeare.
Ah, I know where you're going with this.
You're talking about that Joss Whedon movie, aren't you?
The one he made with Nathan Fillion and a bunch of other Whedon alumni.
I am.
Actually, Kerryn lent this to me.
She told me it was very good, and she wasn't wrong.
Much Ado About Much Ado About Nothing, written by Caroline Orkinson, read by Paul Kurzweil.
Rich socialites and men of power, wine that flows like water, drunken trysts and mistaken
identities, slut-shaming, death and resurrection.
Or hang my bugle from an invisible Baldrick.
And some sex jokes.
It's not the latest nighttime soap show.
It's Shakespeare's Much Ado About Nothing.
For a play written in 1599, this thing feels very modern.
It's prose, not poetry.
And the themes and topics are common and used all the time in romantic comedies and soap
operas.
Joss Whedon's version takes things a step further by setting it in modern day.
Notes become text messages.
Music is played on an iPad.
Swords are guns.
And so on.
Come.
Shall we hear this music?
Yea, my good lord.
Hmm.
It's a good song.
It makes the play very easy to understand, even for someone who is not a Shakespeare
buff.
Joss was reportedly inspired to make this movie for two reasons.
One, he used to do Shakespeare readings at his house with the Buffyverse actors, and
there was definitely some awesome chemistry at some of those sessions.
Especially between Fred and Westley, Amy Acker and Alexis Denisoff.
If Señor Leonato be her father she would not have his head on her shoulders for all
Sina, as like him as she is.
I wonder that you would still be talking,
Signor Benedict.
Nobody marks you.
What, my dear lady, disdain?
Are you yet living?
Is it possible disdain should die
while she hath such meat food defeated
as Signor Benedict?
Courtesy itself must convert to disdain
if you come in her presence.
Then is courtesy a turncoat?
But it is certain I am loved of all ladies,
only you excepted.
And I would I could find it in my heart
that I had not a hard heart.
For truly, I love none.
Dear happiness to women.
Else would they have been troubled
with a pernicious suitor.
I thank God in my cold blood
I am of your humor for that.
I'd rather hear my dog bark at a crow
than a man swear he loves me.
And two, he was burned out
after writing and directing The Avengers.
And this was the way he decided
to recharge his creative batteries.
The film was shot in black and white
on a small budget at Joss's house.
Let me just say I wouldn't mind
getting invited.
to a party there.
What a fabulous set.
And Joss knows how to make best use of it.
Somehow, even with the shades of gray,
everything looks sparkling and sumptuous.
He also knows how to make the best use of his actors.
The cast reads like a
Whedonverse greatest hits parade.
And you can feel the love in the movie.
There are some powerful and unexpected performances here,
due to the level of trust between director and actor.
The basic plot revolves around two romances
that bloom while a bunch of soldiers
and socialites are on vacation in Messina.
Leonardo, their host, a nobleman of power,
a politician.
Clark Gregg does a great job as Leonardo.
The first romance is between Leonardo's daughter,
Hero, played by Gillian Morghese,
and up-and-coming soldier, Claudio,
played by Fran Krantz.
They meet cute and fall in love at first sight.
For the other couple, it's hate at first sight.
Beatrice and Benedict, Amy Acker and Alexis,
Denisov, respectively, are always at each other's throats.
And their interactions between and about each other
are another great part of the play.
I would to God some scholar would conjure her,
for certainly while she is here,
all disquiet horror and perturbation follows her.
Oh, look, here she comes.
Will your grace command me any service to the world's end?
I will go on the slightest errand now to the Antipodes,
that you can devise to send me on.
I will fetch you a toothpicker from the furthest inch of Asia,
bring you a hair off the great sham's beard,
do you any ambassage to the Pygmies,
rather than hold three-words conference with his harpy.
You have no employment for me?
None, but the desire of your good company.
Oh, God, sir, here is a dish I love not.
I cannot endure my lady tongue.
It's hinted at in the text that they may have had a fling before.
But Joss makes this explicit by adding a wordless first scene.
I think it's a good choice.
It gives a bit more context for Beatrice and Benedict to be so hateful,
and to see that maybe they really do love each other and all that bile.
It's also worth noting the word nothing in the title,
because, back in the day, nothing meant noting,
as in passing notes, like high school gossip.
And gossip moves the plot of this play.
The love between Hero and Claudio blooms naturally.
But gossip, by Don John,
almost brings it to an end.
Conversely, the love between Beatrice and Benedict is rekindled by gossip,
but their relationship actually gets stronger through the chaos,
and you see the true colours of many of the characters come through under the stress.
God, that I were a man!
I would eat his heart in the marketplace!
Hear me, Beatrice.
Talk with a man at a window!
Oh, a proper saying!
Nick!
Beatrice!
Sweet Hero!
She is wronged!
She is slandered!
She is undone!
Beatrice.
For a funny play, it deals with some serious stuff.
When things start to get dark, themes of gender inequality are highlighted,
something that is sadly as relevant today as it was more than 400 years ago.
As it is a comedy, things can't stay too dark for too long.
The mood is lightened up again by the delightful performances
of Nathan Fillion and his bubbling police officers.
They are starring in their own show, CSI Messina,
and it's laugh-out-loud funny.
We charge you in the Prince's name!
Stand!
Call up the right Master Constable!
We have here recovered the most dangerous piece of lechery that ever was known in the Commonwealth.
Masters.
Never speak!
We charge you, let us obey you to go with us.
By the end, much like the role,
and much like the rom-coms of today,
things are wrapped up neatly.
It is proved my lady hero hath been falsely accused.
The Prince and Claudio mightily abused,
and Don John is the author of all who's fled and gone.
The villain gets his just desserts.
My lord, your brother John has taken flight
and brought with armed men back to Messina.
And they all live happily ever after.
For man is a giddy thing,
and this is my conclusion.
I've had enough driving.
We're just about to stop for a break.
And what better place to stop than here in India?
Sure has been a long trip,
and now let's find the next member of our crew.
Now let's see,
where does Yuta live?
I've got the address somewhere.
Yuta Yorgans.
Producer.
11 shows.
Host.
1 show.
Actor.
14 segments including 10 Earthburn.
Reader.
23 segments including 3 Queen of the Black,
3 Broadwaves,
and 7 Getting Dicey.
Writer.
24 segments including 3 Editorial,
3 Broadwaves,
4 Queen of the Black,
and 7 Getting Dicey.
Editor.
53 segments including 4 Queen of the Black,
4 Broadwaves,
5 Banter,
6 Serenity Speculation,
and 7 Getting Dicey.
The truth is I live in the middle of nowhere.
Germany is a pretty densely populated country,
but I managed to settle in a region where the night sky is still black
and which is probably home to more deer and wild boar than people.
And I will be driving a common GRT-14 convertible.
It was built by Volkswagen and has the same engine as the Beetle,
but it has a chassis that looks a bit like a sports car,
even though it's not a very fast car.
Really?
I thought you were a car-free person like me.
I am.
I borrowed this one for the adventure.
It is said that there will be no Signal podcast,
but I'm looking forward to the blog.
Anyway, it's important to celebrate.
We need this party.
Do you know if the Signal website will be maintained after the podcast ends?
Absolutely it will.
We'll keep the archive of all our old episodes,
plus all the information pages about the crew and the various segments,
and plus don't forget there are RSS feeds for individual series as well.
And we'll keep those going too.
In some cases we'll even add them to have them all complete.
How does the RSS thing work?
It works however you want it to work.
The most simple way is just go to the website,
find the series you want to listen to,
and you will get a list of all the various episodes,
and you can click and download an mp3 for each episode.
Or you can go to the series page and click on some icons
and subscribe to an RSS feed.
Then you can use your favorite podcatcher client to subscribe
and it will download all episodes,
or you can even select if you want to get one episode every day
or one episode every week,
and you can subscribe to different series at the same time,
just go to each series page.
So you really use them however you like.
But like I said, the most simple way is to just go to the website
and download the mp3 and just listen away.
So it's really easy.
But not all of our series have their own feed, right?
Not yet.
But we'll keep updating them.
Earthburn, for example, is one of those series
that we don't yet have available on its own RSS feed.
Do we plan to make that happen?
We do. Probably sometime next year.
And when it does happen, we'll have the blog to tell people about it.
I'll totally miss being saved alive soon.
I enjoyed that role so much.
What do you think of the ending of Earthburn, anyway?
It was a very sad ending.
Vega waving goodbye to her child.
But well done.
I always thought there should be an epilogue.
You know, what happened to our heroes after the state behind on Earth.
Plus, we never found out what was all that weird stuff about cryotubes.
These things should be explained.
An epilogue would be nice.
I doubt we'll ever see one now, though.
My name is Sarah Lifeson.
And I watched the world end.
This is my story.
I'm reading the script.
I've done it so many times.
I don't know what's up, but you'll never know.
We have a lot of fun in Earthburn.
We have a lot of fun.
And the best part is, we're gonna work on it.
Yeah.
And we're gonna make it.
Poor thing.
Yeah.
Did you hear that?
Yeah.
We're gonna make it.
I say, we're gonna make it.
We've got more to do.
Yeah.
And I really do.
I think we're in the right place.
Yeah.
I think we're in the right place.
I don't get that.
Yeah.
We're going to make it.
Like you said, we're gonna make it.
And we need the help of some resources.
A desperate need to find our place
In the emptiness of space
Earthburn, Fire in the Darkness
By Jill Arroway
2101, The Arkship Artemis on its launch pad in Anchorage, Alaska
Well, this is it.
This is it?
It is something, isn't it?
We're the last ship to leave.
After this, there's no more Earth.
There's still an Earth.
Just no more civilization.
Right, that's what I meant.
The last of civilization goes with us, up, up and away out to the stars.
It's a powerful thought, but I think I've savored the moment for long enough.
What say we?
There should be a countdown.
No countdown. There's no mission control left behind.
There's no one to coordinate with. We just go.
Just like that.
We push the lever and lift off, taking the last of humanity with us.
Do you want a countdown?
No. Let's leave.
It's not like there's anything to stay for.
We're not going to let the Earth leave us.
It's not like there's anything to stay for.
Goodbye, planet Earth. You've been good to us.
2106 Barrow Farmhouse, near Lamont, Canada
Catherine, I need you on my side, not fighting me.
We have to do something.
Yes, of course we have to do something.
The question is...
what? Well, I say trade. It's the only answer. Trade what? The flood destroyed all of our wheat,
all our barley. What do we have left? We need for ourselves. We have one remaining spaceship.
Should we salvage that? Unwise. We've got fuel remaining for two, maybe three more flights.
No, I'd prefer to save that for a real emergency. Bill, if this isn't a real emergency, what is?
Remember, you're the one who said we had to do something. Salt. We can trade salt. It might work.
We have an ample supply of that, and it has become somewhat valuable these last few years.
Good idea. Now, could you take a wagonload of salt round to the neighboring communities?
I'm too old to go gallivanting around the countryside. I can take it. We can't spare you.
We need every worker. We need winter supplies. If we don't get them, we all starve and we all
die.
She's right.
All right, Vega. Take two horses, do what you can, but go alone.
This community needs every hand, now more than ever.
I won't let you down.
21-10. Barrow Farmhouse.
Happy birthday, my love.
Thank you. Now we're both in our seventies. Where did all the time go?
Do you think we'll ever get to retire?
There's no such thing as retiring anymore.
I hate this weather. It's been raining for over a week now. It reminds me of those floods we had
four years ago. Do you remember?
How could I forget? Vega was gone for weeks. But she came back with enough supplies to see us
through the winter.
I think this one is going to be worse. The sky is so blackened.
I think that's snow…
Is that a horse?
Cure horse!
You two, get inside! There's a twister on the way.
A what?
A tornado. If we're lucky, it might miss us!
We don't get tornadoes here!
You do now. Get inside!
MS. RAUTKEA S.O.S.
MOTORCYCLE
BEAT IT!
MOTORCYCLE
We have a problem. Something's gone wrong with the climate.
Again?
We need information. More than anything, we need information.
This community is on subsistence living as it is.
We can't afford another climate disaster.
Are you saying we need to leave? Pack our bags and go?
It is starting to look that way.
But go where? We have one spaceship. Precious little fuel. We can't afford to guess.
I know I'm going to regret saying this, but there is one place we could find out everything we need to know.
Where's that?
It's called Grand Vista Orbital Platform, a space station left behind from the exodus.
But will it still be functional?
Yes, it should be. It's solar powered.
That's ridiculous. We couldn't even get there. How would we navigate? How would we dock? How'd we even get in?
I could...
I could do it. I'm a qualified astronaut.
Judas? You said you'd never go into space again.
Well, maybe it's time to be a hero.
There are security codes.
I have a pass. My last job before the exodus. I still have my electronic key.
Hmm. I guess it is worth a try.
Me and my big mouth. I'm getting too old for this.
Have you seen outside?
Now it's raining ash.
Ash. Ash. We do need to do this.
Access granted. Please wait while life support is restored.
Oh, good. I was sure we were going to have to wear spacesuits.
Just wait.
Life support is now restored.
Air pressure normal. Air lock opening.
The Earth. I can see the Earth, but there's something wrong with it.
I don't understand what I'm seeing. The equator is the wrong color. It should be white and blue.
All I can see of the Amazon is a black cloud. Where are all the greens and browns?
It's smoke. The rainforest is burning.
The... not all of it, surely?
We thought it could never happen. Too much moisture. But the rising temperatures dried it out. Then one spark and boom. Unstoppable fire.
Oh my god.
More than half of the world's life is in that forest. Or was.
Isn't the rainforest where the Earth gets most of its oxygen?
I have no idea. A lot of it, certainly. That fire. It's consuming oxygen.
Is there anywhere on Earth where we can survive?
Let's find out. All this fancy equipment here has got to be for some purpose.
What is all this stuff for? All these computers. All this equipment. Why does it still need to be running?
It's sending information about Earth to the Ark fleet.
Feels like they're spying on us.
It's our Earth now. They left.
I think I've read enough of these readouts to know what's going on.
What's the diagnosis?
The human race is now an endangered species. It's hard to say where on Earth is likely to be safe, but where we are is probably as good as it gets. I don't think we'll be better off by moving.
Okay. So we stay where we are.
We'll just have to ride out the weather. It's going to be tough, but we can make things easier for ourselves by salvaging this space station.
There's fuel here. We can use that. There's communications equipment. We can use that, too.
What about the solar panels?
I doubt we'll see a clear sky for decades, but we should take them even so, for future generations. We have to take the long-term view now.
We were the transitional generation, weren't we? Not really a part of the old world. Not really a part of the new.
In years to come, a new Earth will arise from the ashes of the Earth.
In years to come, a new Earth will arise from the ashes of the old.
But we won't live to see it.
But Vega will.
As I stand here looking out of this window watching the Earth burn, I wonder.
Will future humanity make the same mistakes that past humanity made?
Will future humanity use up the Earth? Again?
Will the people of the Verse use up their worlds?
Let's hope we will all learn from our mistakes.
Will future humanity make the same mistakes that past humanity made?
2220, the ark ship Pandora, on approach to Londinium.
It's awful pretty.
It surely is.
Londinium. I'm afeard like a goram rugrat.
Wishamachuma.
This is how it is. For more than 100 years now we've been rolling through the Black.
And now, every day, that blue ball there gets closer.
Soon enough, we'll be looking at a controlled collision they call a Landon.
What if Pandora don't survive the impact?
She's designed to kiss the ground gentle.
By people long dead.
By people who knew they'd never have to put their forecast to the test.
Not so.
There's still one person around from that era.
I didn't design it myself, you understand, but I knew the people who did.
This ship will get you down.
Um...
Aren't you...
Mark Pins, at your service, Doctors.
You're the body we woke from cryo.
Yes, I am, Doctor. Thank you for having me revived.
You can call me Samantha.
And I'm Al.
It's gonna be okay.
This ship will land, and we'll have a whole new world to explore.
And you guys are going to love being on a planet.
And you?
I wanted to be here. Nothing meant more to me.
I broke the Earth so I could be here.
I don't conjure.
This is humanity's shining achievement.
Imagine all of the nations of the Earth pulling together, working together, for the common good.
What are nations?
A thing of the past, my friend.
This is humanity's golden age.
Imagine what would have happened if we hadn't had the Verse to go to.
If the Earth had been our only home.
I wonder.
Maybe we would have treasured the Earth a bit more.
Maybe.
Maybe we would have tried harder to save it.
If there had been no Verse, no star travel, would we have still used up the Earth?
Would we have still pumped carbon into the air?
Would we have still turned the seas into acid?
Would we have even tried to fix the problem?
Or would we have shrugged our shoulders and pretended the problem didn't exist because it was too big, too hard, and anyway, who cares about our grandchildren?
Truth is, my friend, if the human race had had nowhere to go,
and if we'd had the option to save the Earth, yet chosen not to,
that would have been the greatest crime that anyone could imagine.
We would have deserved our extinction.
Heavy Gosa.
Has there been any contact with the Earth?
We lost the signal back in 2110.
Maybe there's someone there still alive.
Who knows?
It's time to look forward, not back.
It's not Earth anymore.
It's Earth that was.
That there world right there?
That's the now.
That's the future.
We lie.
Et t'es d'eau, Jean Gagnon.
And t'es d'eau, Jean Gagnon.
I've just finished listening to the last show, and I find myself a bit bereft knowing that our beloved podcast will soon be no more.
The Signal was the very first podcast I ever listened to.
It was easy to become hooked, given the wide variety of articles and talented writers that made their mark on the show,
with top-notch music, audio dramas, analysis, speculation, and of course, our host's lesson carry.
The Signal was one of the best ways to keep abreast of everything in the verse.
It even gave me an outlet to express my love of comedy.
In the What's Your Serenity segment back in Season 4,
the ending of The Signal will leave a hole in the Firefly Serenity fan community that won't be easily filled.
Is there even a temporary replacement to fill that void?
And what will our inimitable host be doing next?
The Signal may be headed into the black, but the mark you've left on the podcasting community is one that will not soon be forgotten.
To everyone that has ever been a member of the crew,
I extend my deepest gratitude for helping to keep the verse alive for this fan,
and all those like me.
Keep flying.
Where?
There's someone waving at us.
Look, he's running towards us, waving some sort of canister.
Do you recognize him?
No, do you?
No.
What should we do? Call the police? Drive away?
I think it's okay.
I think he's wearing an Aim to Misbehave t-shirt.
A brown coat.
Let's see what he wants.
Hi, you must be Kevin and Claire.
I recognize the Lerorian.
That's not public knowledge.
No, but Lass told me when he phoned.
I'm Corny. Pleased to meet you.
Cornelius Vilkeny.
One segment, Firefly in Five Lines.
Two shows.
Four segments.
Six segments, including three Earthburn.
Fifty-seven segments, including three Interview, seven Feedback, seven Recollection, nine Banter, and nine Broadwaves.
My car is out of gas.
What's your vessel?
It's a blue 1970s Chevrolet El Camino.
Can you get me to a gas station?
Well, it'll be a squeeze, but sure. Hop in.
Cornelius, so you're an editor, right?
Oof, snap.
That's right.
So what do you edit?
Everything. But I only joined the Signal in Season 7, so I never edited any of the early stuff.
I left in Season 5. We never overlapped.
Would you have wanted to edit any of the early stuff?
I wouldn't have minded doing one of those Blue Sun public service announcements, like the Signal had in the very early days.
Yeah, they were fun.
Wait now for a public service announcement brought to you by Blue Sun.
We see here a typical U-Day celebration.
Here's to another U-Day.
Yes, let's raise a toast to the wonderful Alliance.
Yes, let's.
To the wonderful Alliance.
But wait, what's this? Who's this chappy in the long brown coat? He doesn't look too happy.
I don't think the Alliance are wonderful. In fact, I don't think unification was a good idea at all.
Oh dear. This poor chappy seems delusional. Well, he's certainly not the life and soul of the party, is he?
But please, we must be charitable to these people. After all, brown coats, as we know, originate from the savage outer worlds, bereft of the benefits of civilization.
These people are simply not equipped to handle complicated thought processes such as politics or economics.
Indeed, the popular impression that most of us have of brown coats as barbarian thugs is largely correct.
Leading psychologists have suggested that this may be because brown coats had little or no support during the war, and so they feel inadequate and find themselves constantly regurgitating nonsensical phrases like,
We will rise again, despite the considerable evidence to the contrary.
Attempts have been made to educate these poor people, but to date, the effort seems to have been largely wasted.
Brown coats, it seems, are simply too feeble-minded for education to have any hope of succeeding.
Fortunately, our top scientists have been working on a new drug called Pax, and the hope is that this might help some disenfranchised people.
And the hope is that this might help some disenfranchised people.
Yet, we can't rely on these randomized brown coats to become useful members of our society.
And yet, we can't rely on these randomized brown coats to become useful members of our society.
Let's see how that might work.
Here's to another U-Day.
Yes.
Let's raise a toast to the wonderful alliance.
Yes, let's.
To the wonderful alliance.
Yes, isn't unification great?
I'm so glad that the alliance won the war.
Also, I like dinosaurs.
They are such fun.
So there you have it.
Fun for everyone, thanks to the wonder of Pax.
Browncoats, you lost. Get over it.
This has been a public service announcement from the Blue Sun Group.
Live life with Blue Sun!
We're here, in Tanzania. It's beautiful.
Helen Eaton.
16 Heart of Firefly and 25 Terraformers.
You all made it, then.
We all made it.
Well, here you all are.
Les and Kerry, Anna, Craig, Bindia, James and Carolyn, and Jim.
Hi, Jim.
Hey.
Kevin, Miranda, Claire, Nick, Matthew, Andy, Paul, Jutta, and Corny, and Jill on the way.
Wow, quite a line-up.
We got the call, so we came.
Across three continents, across land and sea.
I'll explain later.
So, Helen.
We're here for the party.
We have everything we need for a good time, but we need you to find us a suitable location.
Well, I thought it would be fun to get out of town, and Bay is a great place,
but if you want a good party location, how about the beach?
There's a place I know on the Tanzanian side of Lake Malawi.
It's called Matema, and it's perfect for a barbecue on the beach.
It'll take about three hours to get there, depending on how many times we get stuck in the mud.
We'll be on tarmac first, and then off-road.
Could be bumpy.
Well.
Always is.
This is going to be so great.
Is this where you did all your writing and recording?
Yep.
This is the place.
Okay, we'd better get moving.
I'll get my Land Rover and lead the way.
Five.
Four.
Three.
Two.
One.
What's in a signal?
For those of you who are new to this, it's easy.
Okay, that's a blooper.
That's hard.
And you're bored.
Because you've not had to access so much.
And you're bored.
Because you've not had to access so much.
And you're bored.
Because you've not had to so much access.
Making the Signal Go Further, written and read by Helen Eaton.
If Firefly is about nine people looking into the blackness of space and seeing nine different
things, then The Signal has been about a similarly disparate group of individuals looking at Firefly
and likewise each seeing something different. It's one reason the podcast could keep going for this
long. Each iteration of the crew brought some fresh insight to the verse and each crew member
approached the task of contributing to the podcast from a unique perspective. For my part, one of the
factors that has contributed to my particular perspective is the place where I live. I'm British
but have lived in Tanzania, East Africa for the last 12 years. My home for the last eight or so
of those has been the town of Mbeya in the Southern Highlands. Both Tanzania as a country and Mbeya as
a town could be described as being out on the rim and that has brought a certain flavour to my
podcasting experience. For one thing, there are the power cuts. Going dark here doesn't involve
powering down a spaceship to hide from the Alliance but having the electricity cut out
unexpectedly, sometimes for a day or more.
I found myself on occasion writing an article for the podcast by candlelight, even once relying on
pen and paper when my trusty laptop ran out of juice. And then there's the fun that comes from
Tanzania's less than reliable internet options. Uploading recordings was sometimes particularly
challenging. I did always ultimately triumph over the glacial connection speeds we have here
but some of the battles were epic. The recordings themselves brought their own challenges too.
Where do I start?
I was once in Wagalu.
For work and turned the fan in my room off to do a recording. The temperature was over 40 degrees
centigrade so there was some suffering for my art involved. Then back in Tanzania there were the
cockerels deciding that under my window was the best place to have a little crow. All the enormous
pied crows landing on the tin roof with an unearthly clatter. The same roof creaking in the
sun or being drummed on by the rain. For six months of the year during rainy season, making
recordings without
an intended background noise is rather tricky. If it's not actually raining at the time you want to record, the thunder is rumbling because it's about to or the frogs have started up their chorus because it's just stopped.
But as Mal once told Wash, you can't make the signal go further if all you're gonna do is sit here and whinge about it. My living circumstances might not be exactly suited to podcasting but over the years they did a great job of providing me with inspiration. I once took three days rather than the planned two to travel to the north of India. I'm happy to be here with you all. I hope you enjoy this video. Thank you so much for watching. Please subscribe to the channel and click the bell icon for notifications. I'll see you in the next video. Bye for now. Bye bye.
of the country because a plane took off early and I missed it. As I waited at a bus station
near Lake Victoria on the third day of that trip, I scribbled some notes for a Terraformers episode
involving Sarah and Taya Ray getting confused by time zones and missing a spaceship flight.
There are many other Terraformers stories which were inspired by my life here.
The Purple Lagoon episode, in which frogs feature prominently, was written, unsurprisingly,
during the height of rainy season. The time I got my pickup truck stuck in the mud
inspired another story, as did a big church celebration I went to, which somehow morphed
into a groundbreaking ceremony for a newly Terraformed moon. More seriously, the day-long
bus journeys to the big city, which I've endured many times over the years, inspired me to try a
Firefly audio marathon, which opened my eyes in new ways to both Firefly itself and to the world
I live in and how I relate to it. Similarly, writing a piece comparing my life as an expat
with that of Serenity's crew led to the series Firefly and Me,
which inspired some fascinating contributions from other writers.
As I write this now, the last paragraph of my last article for The Signal,
the electricity, with superb comic timing, has just cut out. In the words of Mr Universe,
I got a short span here, but it seems appropriate to end not on a whinge but on a positive note.
If you want to contribute to the expanded verse in a creative way,
don't let your circumstances put you off, let them inspire you instead.
Because we're fixed and dilapidated, dilated, dilated, dilated, two more, it's out of the
unbucket, sorry.
Let's try that again.
Wow, it is so beautiful here. The stars in the sky, the little campfires around the beach,
the moon reflected in the lake.
Yes.
There are thousands of people here.
They're here for the same reason we are, to say goodbye to the podcast.
I remember coming here first in 2004, in the middle of a really long workshop.
And it was, so I was at work and then came away for a weekend.
And it was pretty special because it's just, it's out of town.
And it's so peaceful and though I don't think there was anyone else here,
so it was just the people I came with.
And it's really cool at night because you can see the boats on the water and the lights and the
boats. So David Livingston called it the lake of stars, which is quite impressive because of the
lights on the boats that were twinkling. But actually the actual stars are also amazing
because you're so far from the city that, you know, there's no light pollution.
Wow.
It's a pretty special place.
Awesome. I grew up part of my childhood on Cape Cod. It wasn't a lake, it was, you know, the Cape Cod
Bay connected to the ocean pretty well, but very similar sort of seeing all the boats out on there.
I remember going out there on our 4th of July and you could look and see around the perimeter of the
beaches of everyone setting off fireworks. So there's like a free display all the way along
the beach.
Yeah. Well, I grew up at the,
fairly near to the coast in the UK, but I mean, it's a different kind of feel to here. So it's still,
yeah, it's still special because it's, it's just something different. And the fact that it's a lake,
but it just feels so much like the sea or an ocean because it's so big and the waves are pretty
impressive.
Oh, that's neat.
I love anything that's near water. So I'm a happy person anytime I can
see, hear or touch water. So yeah, I'm excited.
Yeah. Well, this is serious water. I mean, there's another country out there
in the black, that's the other side. So that's pretty serious water.
It's a great shindig, but it's a real shame we couldn't make the holiday special.
It is, except you know what? We have everything we need to make a holiday special podcast right here.
We do?
We do. Kevin has a satellite broadband uplink. That's all we need to upload files to our feed.
But...
Equipment?
We all have smartphones and I have a microphone with me. Remember,
Claire gave it to me as a present. And we have leads, the electrical cable that Matthew brought.
We can do this.
So what do you need besides a miracle?
Batteries. Lots of batteries.
What is that?
Unless I'm very much mistaken, that's a Tesla Model X. I guess Jill's arrived.
That's our battery problem solved. We can keep podcasting until the car runs out of charge.
You know what? It just might work. But don't we need a script?
Who needs a script? We're all here, and we've got something better than a script.
We've got imagination.
All right, let's do it.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is no longer just a shindig. It's a podcast.
Do we have to do any work?
No, just be yourselves.
I think I can manage that.
The Signal.
Oh, for me?
What was the first one?
I was just thinking of that question.
Well, actually, it's really funny. There's sort of an art house movie theater
in my area here in Boston. And for a while, every year, they started doing full night screening of
every episode. Like, basically, it's like a full night screening of every episode. Like, basically,
just screening the DVD set of Firefly all in a row. That is how I first saw Firefly.
So it's kind of an amazing, like, they served Chinese food. It was a whole theme.
They kind of went nuts because I think the programmer of the theater was a huge fan.
So yeah, so that's actually how I first saw Firefly, which is amazing.
It was an amazing experience. You know, the theater was full of Boston browncoats,
and it was so cool. So, I mean, that experience kind of cemented it for me,
just sort of the whole thing. But honestly, I was hooked pretty early on into Serenity,
into the episode of the pilot.
I actually have a moment.
Oh, awesome.
And I know people have a... When there's no sound in space, that got me. But the one thing
that really, the one thing that really got me is Mal using the toilet. And I thought, you never see
a guy in space using a toilet.
He's dipping up his trousers, and he's putting the toilet away. And it's like,
it made it real. I don't know. It made it...
Yeah, yeah. It's the reality, yeah.
And it was... That was the other thing was like,
you never see that in a science fiction movie, you know? I mean, but I also was a Joss fan,
so I had been watching Buffy and Angel, and so I was prepared for interesting things.
But that one moment made me think,
of how real it was, and how this is really different. This is a different sort of show.
Paul, what about you?
I wouldn't know. I think I've answered this question before,
and if I think about something right now, I probably come up with something different.
It's okay.
But that's the thing, right?
It's okay to have multiple moments.
So many moments.
Exactly.
I would have to say then, the episode of Out of Gas.
Yeah.
That was arranged.
Yes. I love non-linear storytelling.
That episode is so brilliant. I think it's my favorite still, after...
I think it's a lot of people's favorite, for a lot of reasons.
Yeah, yeah. It always gets chosen.
It's just a great bit of TV.
Yeah. That mustache.
Oh, it's so true.
Yes.
And Zoe's reaction to him. There's just something about him.
About him that bugs me.
About him that bothers me.
Oh, good.
My moment where I knew I was going to be watching this show to the point of distraction
was the Kayleigh fake-out in the first episode, where it was just beautifully set up,
and I thought it was a scene that I'd seen a million times before, you know,
the tragedy and the loss, and it was a complete fake-out.
Yeah.
And I remember just...
Yeah.
...staring at the screen and my jaw dropping open,
and the guy that had sat me down to watch it, like, grinning at me.
It's like, this show is...
Okay, you gotta put in the next one.
And this is what happens now.
But clearly, I can't trust these people, but I wanna know.
I wanna know.
And it broke up some of the seriousness of it.
Because up until I watched Firefly, I wasn't a fan of Westerns.
I didn't like Westerns.
And I wasn't necessarily a fan of science fiction.
Yeah.
Neither.
Like, I liked some, but usually it had a little too much...
I don't know, too much stuffiness, too much gravitas for me.
So that moment, just that gotcha, is like, oh, you took us seriously.
It made me feel a little more comfortable, a little less like,
this is gonna be some very serious, drawn-out, you know, the tragedy of life and wars.
No, it's the captain being a jerk, because he can, and it's funny.
And, uh, like the using the toilet in space, it's not something you really see that often.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
I think it was Washington, the dinosaurs, for me, honestly, which is very early on.
I mean, yeah, that happens, and you're like, you don't usually see pilots
in sci-fi shows playing with toy dinosaurs at their station.
It's pretty good.
I really like the fact that the board game comes with it.
with a dinosaur a little to pass around so you know whose turn it is whoever's
holding the dinosaur it's their turn I thought that was a nice touch
so I got the fucking dinos from the thing you did does anybody have oh no
dinosaurs you can play with so they're the right size you push a button on one
and it does the whole you have the and the right it has all things are the
state of the state grave yeah
God in heaven anyway
but you sort of push the bellies of the dinosaurs and they do the lines if you've
never if you don't have it you have to get them you have to get them
you have to press the buttons in order to get the correct lines because if you
press like two times one dinosaur will like the lines make yes they'll mix up
but would they know browncoats will not mix up the line
you're never going to push the button just once you're gonna do the entire sequence because you'll like that
yeah
you went through the trouble of buying the dinosaurs that actually say the
lines you're gonna perform the entire thing yeah probably in public yes well
yes I did that at the CSTS it was well-received
I'll tell you what this is kind of slightly random so it's like the rule with Monty Python fans
when two or more Python fans are gathered together they shall perform the parrot
sketch when two or more browncoats are gathered they shall perform the parrot sketch
or perform the
yeah yeah that's it that's okay right totally random story. This is how I got involved in the signal I met Jill Adeshinde in London Cari was there Wendy from Plending Your Wave was there and I got Sweden from plenty a wave was there and hollowed above a
survey as well I got talking to Jill she's hugh Geke once treatment Python fact
and we just started bouncing off each other with price and quotes and it's
Yeah I can work with this person
I can work with this person
okay some man with a pickled faut that's able to speak the b apply no more
It's like, yeah, that's it
So Monty Python got me into the thing
That's a really bizarre thing, isn't it?
Monty Python got me into the thing
You know, I don't know
That that sounds so strange
It's not
It's kind of appropriate in a weird way
It is, because there is that almost
Kind of slightly anarchic
Slightly subversive element there
In Firefly
To a degree, I think
People like, it's got that whole grounding in reality
And the characters and all the rest of it
But in Firefly, people still love Monty Python
You know, all these years later
They still recite the sketch
They still laugh at the show
We still sit around and re-watch the show
Oh yeah
It's a show from 2002 when it came out
It's 14 years old
There are just certain things in the culture
I think that just have a universal appeal
Well yeah, there always will be, right?
And I think what you said about the actors
Is really a good point
It's, anytime you hear any of them talk about it
It's always, you know
The best experience they've had
You know, in their careers
Of, you know, just everyone on the set
Was a family
And it was, everybody knew it was so special
And I just, that always makes me so happy to hear
Just, you know, you never want to hear
You know, something that you love
And the actor was miserable during the whole thing
Something like that, you know
It's like they felt it too
They felt the thing that we feel
As fans
As fans watching it
They felt it while they were making it
That's so cool
Yeah, absolutely
But man, this is why they do
This is why they still do conventions
You know, it still comes up in it
I mean, Nathan did an interview just recently
Where he talks about it
You know, Firefly fans just don't go away
They're like, oh
We're like zombies
We can't, yeah, that's right
I'll pass on the brains, but you know
Think for yourself, dude
I don't think it's a far stretch to say that Firefly
Has had a tremendous influence on the scope of science fiction as we know it
As much as Star Wars or Star Trek even
I think that's a very fair statement
When I started watching Battlestar Galactica
I noted in a lot of camera techniques
That I had only seen in Firefly before
And it was that, yes
That kind of thing that makes it look like a quick cam
Like it's a live action shot
And the ship's out of focus
Then focuses in
Yeah, I mean, of course
I mean, obviously it was the same
It was the same CGI studio
Yeah
Doing that
But obviously
Yeah, yeah
I think that has had an influence
And obviously, of course
They're still working
And involved in the industry
And so, yes, I think it has
In the same way that Star Wars had
Had that
Impact on how spaceships looks
You know, grubby, dirty
And, you know, used
Which, frankly, has lost a little bit of
Actually going all CGI
And I think perhaps Firefly
And, you know, other shows
Have since kind of taken that back a little bit
And it's like, yeah, you know what
These would be used
They would be a bit mucky
And, you know, covered in rain
And pigeon poo
And all sorts of other stuff
You know
Because they're working shits
You know
Mm-hmm
I would say
Maybe, you know
You look at any harbour
With fishing boats and everything
They're beaten up
And they're used
And everything
But they're functional
And, you know, they do their job
And the primary referral panel
Comes right off
Oh, that's right
Every time
Every damn time
That would have made that shot
If, like, the Millennium Falcon
Was just taking off
Please, yeah
Whizzing back the camera
Yeah
Oh, I know
Mm-hmm
I always love that
You know, the big bang episode
Where you see the flashback
Of the roommate agreement
Being drawn up
And Sheldon going on about
Writing in, like, the slot
Every Friday night
To watch Firefly
Because that show
Is going to be around for years
You know
And it's that
Pop culture nature of it
That, you know
Beyond just that nicheness
Of the fandom
It's just
That, you know
Awareness of, you know
Within wider geekery
That, yeah
You name it
You know, what's the
Number one
Sort of short-lived
TV show
And guarantees
There was a poll of that
You'd probably have
Firefly right up there
At the top of the list
Wouldn't you?
Yeah, I was just thinking
That one of my
Favourite things I did
Was writing
The terraformers
And writing
Silly things
For people to say
And
I ended up
Thinking about
Like, what would be fun
Oh, Miranda would be
Fun being drunk
I bet you should sound
Fun being drunk
And then
And you
And that's like
The first thing
That you think of
And that becomes
Your plotline
For an episode
Which is great
Because you just start
Remembering
Like, oh, Les does
A good voice
That's like that
Or Miranda doesn't
Sound funny doing that
And it's
Yeah, you kind of
Start building
The episode
Or the plot around
Something you know
The person can do
Or
Something you think
They might sound
Funny doing
So
It's very entertaining
I'm going to miss
I have so much
Fun doing that
Yeah
Yeah, I have
I had loads of fun
Doing that
I remember starting it
I volunteered
At kind of
Early on
Just to do
Well, it was the second episode
Because Jill had done one
And then
It was the first
Episode after that
And I remember just
Not telling anyone
I was writing it
Because I wasn't sure
If it would be any good
And then saying
Well, I've had a go
What do you think?
And then I got stuck with it
I didn't realise
At that point
That's how it worked
On the podcast
If you actually did something
You ended up
You'd get stuck
With it afterwards
But
It's just
I spend
You know
All my working time
Writing and reading
And doing a lot of
Things like that
But they're all
Very serious
And you know
And then
At the weekend
I can just
Have fun with my terraformers
And make them say
Silly things
And get silly plots
And puns
And stuff
So
It's wonderful really
I did
Although it was hard
To think of ideas
And sometimes
It didn't
Go that well
Flow well
But I do miss
Having that
As a completely
Different thing
To write about
I love that
Writing
Maybe the only thing
I've written
Is the shipworks
And then it was easier
Because I already
Knew the setting
So I could just
Picture the characters
And just add
A new episode to it
If I have to write
Something from the start
Trying to describe
Everything
Looking at the
White page
Really like
Having something
In my head
But not
Knowing how
To present it
To the reader
For me
That's really difficult
Yeah I mean
For writing
Within the
Signal context
I always found
Badger's world
For example
I'm sure you find
The same with shipworks
You know
You have the characters
There
You kind of know
How they're going
To behave
And it almost
Writes itself
Sometimes
Yes
Exactly
You know
It's kind of weird
Sometimes you run up
Against a bit of a brick wall
But when you're on a roll
It's just like
Okay right
Here's the basic idea
What would they say
What would they do
Boom boom boom
There you go
And it just kind of
Comes out
I suppose it's the same
With other stuff
As well
But it's getting
Those characters
Kind of
I guess
The settings set
In your head first
That's possibly
One of the more
Difficult things
Yeah but once
They're all set
In the case of shipworks
When I wrote
Some episodes
Jill had already
Written four or five
Episodes
So it was easy
For me to just
Pick it up
Because I already
Knew the characters
Yeah
I think both
With Terraformers
And with Badger's world
You know the offer
Was always there
To someone else
Who comes up
With a good episode
Fine
You know
It doesn't have to be
Exclusively mine
Because you know
It's within the
You know within the context
Of the signal
But I think in those cases
No one ever did
But that's fine
You know
It kind of
It works
In that case
It works really well
And with shipworks
I don't think
I think listening back to it
You can't
You can't tell
Which is a Jill episode
Which is a Paul episode
Which is really good
Because it means
You've both done
A really good job
Yeah excellent
Are you doing
Any other writing
And is anybody
Doing
Any other kinds
Of writing
Yeah
I do
A kind of
As a side hobby
A text based
Role playing
Very cool
So I have
Dabbled in some
Firefly RPG stuff
Before
From a writing aspect
And it's a lot of fun
Yeah I'm sure it is
I think role playing
Definitely encourages that
Yeah
Writing for River
Especially
Is a
I don't know
A joy and a wonder
So
I always worry
That I'm not getting
The beats
Of the character
Quite right
But it's just
Another excuse
To go back
And rewatch the series
And kind of
Refresh yourself
And notice the patterns
And the
It's interesting
Looking at where
The characters come from
Individually
And how they mesh together
And
In text based
Role playing
When you're bouncing off
Of somebody else
Who's focusing
Just on writing
One character
You get
A lot of
Examination
Of the depth
In how they think
And why they do
What they do
And you can tell
That a lot of people
Still
Really care about
These characters
And where they come from
And want to see
The stories continue
Well it doesn't
Think there's any doubt
About that
Yeah
No
What is it we do
Oh yeah
What's that thing
What's that about
Oh yeah
Why do we still
Oh yeah
Well it's nice to know
That we're not just
Speaking into a void
I mean can you believe
That it's over ten years
I mean the whole
Firefly thing
And the signal
The signal's not really
Ten years
I think it's nine
Yeah nine and a half
At this point
Yeah
Something like that
Because the first season
Was only half
A year
Well
Really the ten years
I mean so much
Is like
So much in podcasting
Has changed
You know what I mean
Like
It seems like
When we started
It was so new
Yeah
Oh
Yeah I think
Actually I think
The signal was the first
Podcast that I really
Like I knew about
Podcasts before
But I think that was
The first one I really
Got into and really
Listened to
Yeah I think the signal
For me was
The second
I think I first
Got into the
B5 podcast
And because it was
When Babylon 5
Had got the
Lost Tales and stuff
So I went searching
For more content
And found that
And then there was
A trailer on there
For the signal
And I was like
Wow that sounds cool
And I have
Weird memories
Of being on business trips
In like Russia and stuff
And sitting in some
Minibus
Listening to the signal
On my phone
For bumping along
Through some
Back road
Heading to a plant
Somewhere
But yeah
No it's
I think the crazy
Thing for me is that
If you look at how
Everything is all
Video type blogs
And blogs
And things now
And all the growth
Of YouTube and stuff
And just
There wasn't any of that
Really when the signal
Started
It was all
Audio podcasts
And stuff
And just the way
That the bandwidth
And the technology
I mean
The thing that
You know
As producers
We've always focused
On trying to make shows
That were
Small enough
To fit on an audio CD
That was the
Original guide
Wasn't it
So you could burn them
Onto a CD
To play them
You know
A CD player
And that's just
You think like
Who nowadays
Would download anything
Can burn it
Onto a CD
It just
Seems really strange
Well that first
That first
Dragon Con
That we went to
In the fall of 2005
I had a whole
Handful
Of signal
CDs
You have to pass out
I must be burning
An episode
To pass out
To kind of help
Build our
Listening audience
Because it was
At that time
It was so
Difficult
Technology wise
To explain
What a podcast was
All the steps
You had to go through
To get it
Trying to play it
On a computer
Or maybe your
Teeny little
MP3 player
At the time
You know
iPods were kind of
Getting a foothold
And iRiver players
And other things
It was
Technology wise
It was
You really had to
Want it bad
To figure it out
Even though
I have to admit
That I'm such a dinosaur
By now
As far as
Technology goes
I mean
I still download
The things
MP3s
And then open them
With a player
Like a built in
Linux video player
Normally
And I never got
The signing up
For a
RSS feed
Podcast thingy
Or any of that
It just completely
Passed me by
Yeah
No but that's okay
Because there were
So many early listeners
That said just that
Like we were saying
That they were
Motivated by
Firefly
And the Browncoats
To want to figure out
What a podcast was
So they could become
Part of the community
It did start
A lot of folks
Understanding it
And we had
Several
Miranda probably
Remembers certainly
From those early episodes
She and I
Reading emails
From people who said
That they'd play it
On their computer
And have the whole family
Sit around and listen
It's important
To remember that context
Because when
You sort of look back
Now with a
Sort of
Nearly 2015
Sort of
Viewpoint
Of the world
And stuff
And you forget
That 10 years ago
When the signal started
You know
This was sort of
Bleeding edge
Stuff
And from
You know
The early crew
The work they did
In terms of
The audio quality
And the quality
Of what they produced
And the way
That they managed
To distribute that
And make it easy
For people to get
To that content
That was a lot
Of work
To make that happen
And it's stuff
That nowadays
Is relatively easy
To do
With modern
You know
Modern blog tools
And plugins
And things
That allow you
To podcast
Straight to iTunes
You can just go
Do that stuff
But
Back then
The download
Figures that we had
And the
You know
The huge fandom
That was built
Around the podcast
Is a testament
You know
To the early crew
And the work they did
To make that stuff happen
You know
Oh absolutely
It was pretty
Exciting fun
We've done a lot
Haven't we
Yeah
The signal
Oh yeah
10 years
That's scary
I mean
None of us
I don't think
Any of us
No
None of us
Here have been
That for the whole
Thing
Oh no
Nope
Just Jill
Really
I think she
Oh Jill and Les and Carrie
Jill, Les
And Miranda
Miranda was up very early
Claire when did you join?
I joined
Just after
There
I think just after
Season one
So I was there
For the beginning
Of season two
Season two yeah
And then I went
Through season five
I think so
Wasn't there for
Too too long
But it was near the beginning
I remember I heard
Cause in the first season
I don't know if you guys
All listened to every
Episode of her
But in the first season
I discovered the podcast
And you know
They had interviews
With the
Big damn heroes
You know
Because Serenity
Was coming out
So I remember
Just like
Listening to those
With just sort of
Wrapped attention
And I was like
This podcast is awesome
And I just
I think I just
Contacted Jill
And was like
Can I help out
In any way
And she said
Well we need an audio editor
I said well
I've never done that before
But if you teach me
I would be happy to do it
So Jill actually
Taught me
Like you know
Across the Atlantic
You know
Just over email
And she was
A great teacher
And there it was
And I did like
She and I shared
The audio editing
Just between the two of us
Didn't you
It was just
Doing the whole job
The whole thing
Yeah
How the hell
You both
Yeah
It was a lot
You guys
It was a lot
What do you mean
Oh man
Yeah
And then I started
Producing too
So it just got to be
I mean it was great
It was a great experience
I think it just got to be a lot
Just because of
You know
At the time
It was just the two of us
Doing editing
And all of that stuff
So
I needed to move on
For a bit
But I'm really happy
To have been a part of it
I'm so proud of it
You know
Such a great podcast
Oh yeah
Totally
Yeah
I was there
I was there for what
Early season three
Through to
Seven
I think finally
Yeah
I kind of
Things kind of
I had to kind of
Dial things back a bit
From season six
So six and seven
I was not quite so
Heavily involved
But
Yeah
Season three
Four and five
I was kind of
Knee deep in it
But it was great
It was fun
Yeah
Hard to maintain
That kind of intensity
So it was
The right decision
At the time
But
Yeah
You know
Yeah
I'm very very
Proud of what we all achieved
Actually
Yeah
Because it was
I mean
Like me
I found Firefly recently
Found this podcast
Oh my god
This is fantastic
You know
Listening through season one
And then two
And
Yeah
There's
I don't know
I can't remember
Probably
It was probably
Via Wendy actually
Because I've met
Wendy and
Andrew and the other people
On sending a wave
And they said
Oh yeah
You know
We've got with us
A shindig in London
And Carrie's going to be there
And I was like
Oh right
Again Jill was there
And that was that
I kind of got recruited
On the spot
Because of Monty Python
Well naturally
But that was
Yeah that was really good
And just
And I think
You know
Like with any shindig
You know
Brown coats
You know
You go to a shindig
You know you're going to
It doesn't matter
If you don't know anyone
To begin with
You will by the end of it
Because you're amongst friends
You know
Yeah
You kind of got that
Vine
Immediately
Because if you think about
What we've done
In the ten years
We've been doing the podcast
We've really left
Quite a legacy
For the brown coats
And the way we're
Putting it together
We're really trying to
Not just
Leave it behind
But really
Put it out there
So that people can continue
To enjoy it
And access it
Yeah
Yeah I mean
There's no reason
Why you can't go back now
And you know
If you think about it
The length of time
There's been
That there are people
Who just
Weren't of an age
To appreciate it
When it first came out
Firefly
And now
They can come
And find the podcast
And start at the beginning
If they really want to
And I mean
Lots of people
Have done that
We've heard of people
Doing that
To some extent
Over the years
And there's no reason
Why it should stop
Just because
There's no new episodes
Because people are still
Finding Firefly
So they can still
Find the podcast
I mean
I've certainly
Found people here
Who've
Friends who
I've met here
Who just sort of
Say you know
What do you do
With your spare time
And I confess
What I do
Or have done
And then
They end up
Listening as well
So you know
You can
It's pretty easy
To get just
One or two more here
Who find it
Through that
Yeah
And the majority of it
Isn't time
Sensitive
Like yes
There are things
That were only
Pertinent at the time
When we broadcast
But the majority
Of it is
Just information
On where else
To get
Product
Like where do you
Go to
You know
If you want to
Watch a fan film
We've got that there
If you want to know
What websites
Are out there
We've covered a lot
Of those
You know like
Things that
Aren't necessarily
Like yeah
Some of the news
Segments
And like
The screenings
And stuff like that
For the
Quality Now
Showings
And stuff like that
Is time sensitive
But for the majority
Of the podcast
It's not
It's just
Fun that could go on
Any time
That you're following
You know
Following the show
Yeah and even
Some of the things
That are
Sort of a little bit
Time linked
Like you know
Redemption being released
Or events like that
It's still
Very good information
To go back in
Because really
Just the talking
About it is so
Interesting I think
And there's so little
Of it that you know
Yes this is going to
Be happening
Or this happened
On this date
Yeah that's interesting
But I think it's still
Interesting from a distance
And then you have
The great thing
That you don't
Have to wait
So you can just
Then go and find it
And discover it's
Already out there
Whatever it is
You know
Right
That people have been
Talking about
The build up
The anticipation
And waiting
But then you don't
Even have to be
Patient enough to wait
Because it's already there
It's quite odd
Sometimes when you
Actually think about
How many different ways
I think all of our lives
Have changed
Because of our
Involvement with
Watching this little
TV show
Yeah absolutely
Well it is
And you folks
Hit it on the head
As
You were saying earlier on
The tools that are being used
To create the Signal episodes
With so many people involved
In such a diverse
Part of the planet
With all the high quality
Production and such
I mean
Really
I would love to know
And never will
But I would love to know
Someday how many people
We
And I mean all of the
Signal crew members
Over the years
Have influenced
To get into podcasting
To get involved
Into fandoms
Because of what they
Heard from us
I mean
We were the jewel
Very honestly
I can't tell you
How many times
It's different
Conventions I've been to
People wanting to know
How you could possibly
Do the Signal
With people in so many countries
And put it all together
And it just goes to show you
That enough people
Committed to something
Who get sharp about it
And find some tools
To make it possible
We have influenced
Thousands
Tens of thousands
Of people
In such a positive way
Because the mechanism
Of podcasting
Is such a great way
To bring people together
Whether it's a TV show
A movie
Life changing
You know
Think of all the topics now
And like we were saying earlier
Back in 2005
Very few people
Even knew what it was
So we've been along
For that ride
And it's been amazing
The influence
Really
That we have had
Without even knowing it
We're just doing our little bit
Like we said
Your little corner
Or whatever it might be
You know
Whether it's writing
Or editing
Or production
Or reading
And that all comes together
And there are people
All over the world
Who know of us
And have been inspired
And it's amazing
If you step back
And think about it
Well I've lost count
Kevin
As to how many podcasts
You've been on
It's insane
How you've touched
So many other different shows
And things and stuff
But that's all
Because of the signal
I joined in July of 2005
And I still remember the day
I got the email from Jill
That said
You know
Welcome to the crew
I had no idea
What a podcast was
I didn't
Because the day
I got that email from her
Was the 4th of July
Which is a big holiday
Here in the States
And I remember
Seeing that email
And later going to a party
With a bunch of friends
Talking about
That I was going to work
On this podcast
And had to do a firefly
And all I got were eyes
Rolling back in their head
They had no idea
What I was talking about
But it did for me
And the joke is
Yeah I've done so many podcasts
Because it's much like
With the family
That you were talking about earlier
It's wonderful
To touch other people
And to get to know them
And there are so many
Great people in the world
Yeah I've lost count
I think it's up over
800 podcast episodes
I've done in the last
Nine plus years
But it's just
Oh my god
But it's because it's fun
It is so much fun
I cannot stop doing it
I can't imagine my life now
Without it
It's become that much
Of a part of me
The thing for me
Is you were saying
Kevin it's around
Just the signal is still
Whenever I do anything
I hold it up against the signal
To see if I think
It's good enough
And that's always my benchmark
That I compare everything to
And I look back
And you know
You get those moments
When you sort of think
Oh you know
What have I done
Or you know
This sort of stuff
I go and listen to things
I've worked on the signal
And I'm immensely proud
Of this stuff
I mean it's
This stuff will last
You know
Because the quality
Is good enough
That even as
Audio equipment improves
And stuff
And the quality
Of what we produce
Will still stand up
For many many years to come
Which I think is
Is an amazing thing
Oh it is
But and as amazing as that
Is though it is still
The genuine nature
Of the people
The fans
Still talking to them
Be they listeners
Whenever they come in
To find us
Or when in my case
I run into them now
You know certainly
Dragon Con and other places
And it is without fail
It always happens
Someone will say
They heard the signal
They heard about Firefly
And then found the signal
Or vice versa
And it helps to build
On so many other things
You know we're so busy
Doing it sometimes
Our heads buried
And like you said
Late nights do any
Different bits or whatever
And then when you get
A chance to step back
And listen to it
I mean one of the
Really nice things for me
I mean I think
I left the crew
I think late 2010
Early 2011
Somewhere in there
I've been able to listen
To the episodes now
On the outside
As a fan
And you know
Not that we don't appreciate it
When we're doing it
But it's like anything else in life
When you're busy and doing it
You sometimes don't
Really appreciate it
So it's been wonderful
To find a new episode
That shows up on my player
And to start listening
And hear all of your voices
And some of the stories
And knowing the international nature
Of everything involved
It really makes you appreciate
Just how special it is
And there's all
I mean I love all the
Spin-off stuff as well
You know all the albums
The music albums
That we've put out
There's three albums
Of music
That the Signal
Has produced over the years
Just pulling together
All those fan-produced
You know
Filp tracks and stuff
And pulling them together
Into one place
And you know
Just those extra things
That the crew have done
Over the years
Just to take
Aspects of the
Of the fandom
And pull it together
In a way that
Is consumable by people
You know
Those little things
You know
I think
Just
As you said
We'll stand the test of time
And stuff
You know
And I think
It is a shame
That it's not going to be there
You know
In a new way
But there's
There's still going to be
The
That we're putting together
Which
And Miranda
You've been working on
So there's still going to be
An outlet
For members
Of the crew
To share content
And stuff
In the future
We just won't be producing
Regular shows anymore
So
Yeah
That's going to be great
And other stuff
Who knows
The blog's there
The blog
The thing is
The blog's there
There's a way to communicate
There's a way to put stuff out there
Try things out
Say
Do you think this is any good
You know
And get an honest opinion
Hopefully
And
So yeah
You know
It's kind of changing
But it's not over
Yeah
I believe that the blog
Has
It's sort of like
This fertile ground
Where all these
You know
Seeds are going to be
Cast into it
Who knows what'll
What'll take
Take root
I mean
You can't
You know
Who knows what's going to
What's going to happen
I mean you know
Two years
Two years time
Serenity 2 gets announced
Like well
Hello
Yeah
I think
I think that would be
A bit of a
That would be a bugle call
For everyone to come back
You know
I don't
Have any doubt about that
We can dream eh
Yeah
We can
We would have a crew
Of 40 people
Trying
Yeah
Right
Yeah
I mean
No
Steady
Yeah
That's a good point actually
Yeah
But then you know
There's other things
Down the line maybe
You know
Jill's got this idea
Of doing the new
Broadwaves podcast
In 2016
So it's a
Complete year off
And then come back
And do something
Based on the
Broadwaves segment
Which was always
One of the ones
That I particularly
Enjoyed doing
Because you can
Write about anything
It's not
Necessarily
It's not related
To Firefly
Particularly
You know
You can talk about
Anything
So I think
And I know
Several of us
Are going to be
Involved with that
Well
I am one of the ones
That's going to work
On the new podcast
So after a break
It'll be nice
Yeah
Broadwaves has been
Such a help
To me actually
Because I'm really
Out of it
In terms of
What's out there
Not having a television
Not living in a country
That actually
Shows decent television
Let's be honest with you
To be honest
So I think
I don't know
About half my shelf
Of DVDs
Probably from
Recommendations
Through the
Sci-fi review
Or broadways
Or just things
That people have
Mentioned on the signal
So I'd suddenly
Have a bit of a gap
If I didn't have
Some fresh ideas
So I'm really
Looking forward to
Hearing what you're
All going to say
That's awesome
Yeah I mean
It seems like
Really
In the last
Five or ten years
There's just been
So much good stuff
Out there
It's no longer
What it was
Twenty years ago
Where you're just
Struggling to find
Anything that's good
Now there's so much
That's good out there
It's like what's good
And really fits me
Yeah
I've been watching
I don't know
If it's good or bad
I've been watching
South Korean dramas
And Japanese anime
And Taiwanese dramas
And Chinese movies
Like I've gone
All subtitles
Like I've learned
Enough
Like I can catch
One and two words
Here and there
But like everything
I've been watching lately
With the exception of
Maybe two shows
On terrestrial TV
Is all
All internet
Streaming
Asian shows
Hey I think
That's cool
It's like the
Internet has really
Opened things up
And I remember
When I joined the crew
Which was
I think at the beginning
Of season six
It was
I was totally impressed
By how
How much
Yeah how much
Technology was there
In the background
Like that
That was just
When we changed
From the old
That side
It was so much
Like so many
Different layers
Of technology
And it all
Was worked out
So well
And worked so well
And made teamwork
So much easier
Yeah
It's the
The sheer professionalism
Of how it's all
Structured
And you know
The way it all works
Behind the scenes
I must admit
I mean when I
I mean it's five years
Since I joined the crew
And I must say
I was slightly intimidated
When I first
Joined it was like
I'm joining the
Stable
It's like freak out
You know
Because it's a big deal
It's like
Oh this is like
A huge responsibility
It's like
If I screw up now
It's like you put up
Every brown coat
And
And yeah
It's just
When you see
Behind the scenes
And stuff
Just the way
That the crew
Works together
And the way we
Roughly
We smooth out
Those bumps in the road
You know
The whole
Old
You know
The old saying
About you know
Find someone to carry you
Stuff
That's really how
It all works
Behind the scenes
Is that you know
We all have
Challenges from time to time
You know
And over the years
I've been on the crew
There's been times
I've had more availability
And less availability
And stuff
And everyone just
Mucks in
And helps out
And covers
And gets the show
Out the door
And it's
You know
I think it's a shame
Sometimes that
People don't
Always see
All of that
Noise going on
But
And I'm gonna miss that
I think that's the thing
That I'm gonna miss most
About The Signal
Is this whole
Teamwork thingy
And
Actually the feeling of
Yeah
Being part of a crew
Somewhere
That puts something together
To the impossible
Sometimes
And
It's a family
Isn't it
It is
So yeah
What will you miss
Most about
The Signal
Well that's a tough one
I mean
I am still gonna
Pull out the Harry voice
Now and then
I am
Yeah
I am having
To learn
All kinds of new voices
As I read
Children's books
To Tyrion
But
This really
Isn't one of them
But
He's a little older
I have lots of hair
Back
Poor child
When you're mad
You can always
Pull out the Harry voice
And scare him
Back into state
You don't want me
To get out
My belt
Now do you
Oh
Yeah
How about you Miranda
Oh
There's so much
I will miss
Teyre
I will definitely
Miss Teyre
How to speak Chinese
I've learned
So much from
From Craig
I love the
How to speak Chinese
That's my favorite one
The people who are
Who are fans of it
Feel like they're
A part of something
Something kind of
Secret
Something
You know
Connected
You know
Connected
Like a family
I think
Browncoats consider
Each and every
Member of the
Community family
Yeah
And that's not
Something you get
With just any
Any fandom
No
I think
I mean
It's easy
But you know
I think that's
I think that's true
I think that's fair to say
It's something
That's come up again
And again and again
Over the years
Exactly
And the changing nature
Too of the crew
Of having
Folks come in and out
For different periods of time
Always kept it fresh
Always kept
New ideas coming in
And approaches
To doing things
Segments and such
That's been a great way
To show again
The diverse nature
Of the
Browncoat fandom
Too
It's not just a couple
Of people with an idea
It's been
You know
I'm not even sure
How many total crew members
Over the years
But it's been
A pretty large
Pretty large block
To be able to make
That happen
So it's
Going to be sad
Not to have it there
On a regular basis
But if nothing else
Use what you've enjoyed
From this
To potentially give you
Something that you
Want to push for
Be it a podcast
Or something else
Realize the real power
Of when you get
Some like-minded people
Together
Again whether it's
You know
Around a TV series
Or some community project
Or something
Man you can do
Some amazing things
As you know
None of us are making
Any money doing this
This is just passion
And you see the results
Of it
Yeah definitely
Sure
I mean
And I'm
Eternally thankful
And grateful
To all the listeners
That have listened
To this stuff
Because if there weren't
People listening
And downloading the content
Then all those hours
We spend making it
Would you know
It's
It feels worthwhile
To put the time in
To produce the thing
When we get the feedback
From people
That have listened
To the show
Over the years
And have commented
As Kevin said
On all the things
That have come from it
But you know
For those people
That haven't done stuff
From it
But have just enjoyed
Listening to it
Just the feedback
From those people
That have just
Got enjoyment
Out of the work
That we've done
You know
Is really special
And that is reward
In itself
And I'm very grateful
For that
You did some pretty
Amazing stuff
Well yeah
I mean we've
Kept this podcast
Going for ten years
With people
It was a you know
Kind of revolving
Door crew a little bit
But you know
People would come on
As people went off
And kept it going
How many different
Countries are we
From you know
It's just
It's amazing
That it just
We kept it going
And I think it's because
Every single one of us
Had that sort of passion
And felt that sort of
Sense of you know
Community and family
From you know
This fandom
So I think
Oh completely
I mean working with
Everyone on this
Has been fantastic
You know
It's just been so
Sort of creatively
Satisfying
And you know
Sometimes when things
Go wrong
Which they do
Inevitably do
You know
Pull the cat
Out of the hat
Or whatever
And you know
Actually get the show out
And get it done
And get it done well
That's the thing
You listen back
To some of the shows
And you go
You know what
That sounds pretty good
Yeah
I'm quite pleased with that
I'm glad that
I'm glad that came out
Or you might think
Well I could have done that
A little bit better maybe
You know
But then you learn
You know
I mean I learned
So much on this
Oh yeah
You know
Learning how to audio edit
I'd never audio edited
Before
But I've done it
I know how to do it now
You know
At least
At least to the degree
That was required
By the quality
We were putting out
In the signal
You know
And I think
I mean
Certainly every single person
Has you know
Contributed in such huge ways
To you know
Everybody on the crew
But I think
I personally think
That huge props
Should be given
To like
Les and Carrie
They were there
From the very beginning
And they've been part of
Almost every episode
You know
Hosting
Being the face of the signal
And then also Jill
Like behind the scenes
Like she
This was her baby
You know
She's just
And she does so much work
For this podcast
Like I don't know
I just think
You know
Now that things are ending
And we're sort of looking back
I think that that's sort of
Something that sticks out
In my mind
Is just like
You know
Especially the three of them
Since they were there
From the very very beginning
Like they just deserve
A lot of credit
For everything
Yeah
Absolutely
You know
I think you're right
I mean everyone
Has contributed
And obviously
Other people
Perhaps in more
Other ways than one
But people
People have been able
To contribute
To their strength
I think
You know
And find strengths
Which they didn't know
They even had
You know
I wasn't sure
If I could write
You know
A comedy piece
And no
Actually
You know
I kind of did
And I wasn't sure
If I could audio edit
Oh yeah
And I kind of did that too
Or produce a show
I did that as well
You know
How did I do all that
Or who ever
I would have never
Thought I could act
Or you know
But it was like
Oh hey
There's this part in this
You can give it a try
And you know
It's like that kind of thing
So much fun
And you know
Things
Able to express yourself
This is it
The signal was all about
Having fun doing it
Definitely
Things change
And we made the decision
To make the clean finish
But it was
You know
It's
Even coming back to it
Now it's like
Well yeah
You know
I really enjoyed
Doing the audio editing
You know
Doing some of the writing
And that
For some of the articles
It's like
Oh yeah
I could get back into this
No no no
We said no no
Yeah
If there's things
For them to see
Or Firefly
Related events
Or topics
Or products
That is out there
Then people will come
To find it
Or watch it
Or
If it's there
They'll come and get it
And yes
Even though the signal
Is ending traditionally
It'll still be
Something
That I would imagine
Because I mean
We'll have all of the audio
And stuff out there
I mean
Every time
Every season
We get more emails
With people
I just found your podcast
And I went back
And listened to all nine seasons
Before this one
And I was so sad
To find out
That you're ending
And I still love the show
So
But I think that
Even though
We won't be producing
New stuff
Regularly
I still think
That it'll be out there
For people to find
I totally agree
Yeah
But what you were saying
Before about
New people
Finding the podcast
And stuff
I found consistently
Over the years
That
You know
If I find someone
That is a fan of Firefly
Most of them
If not pretty much
All of them
Haven't heard of
Podcasts
Or the signal
And stuff
So
Within the nicheness
That is
Sort of
Geek
Sci-fi
Fandom
There's an even
Smaller niche
Of people
That are aware
Of all the extra
Fan created content
That's out there
So
I think you're right
Even long after
We start producing
New stuff
There's still going to be
Many people
Every year
Going out
Searching on the internet
Finding what's there
And I think that's
You know
I think
You were saying before
It's a shame
There's no way of
Figuring out
How many people
Have been influenced
By all
And the thing is
About that is
You'd also have to
Figure out a way
Of checking
How many people
Are yet to be
Influenced by as well
You know
Yeah
It still can be
Because we're going to
Those episodes
Will be there
You know
At the risk of
Getting a little corny
I mean
It's going to
Outlive us
That helped to create it
And that's a pretty
Special thing
I mean
It really is
In today's day and age
Of many disposable things
And fads that come and go
Even nine plus years on
To still know
That it's still
Being enjoyed
And appreciated
And gone back to
It's some pretty
Amazing stuff
I still get messages
All the time
From people who tell me
They heard me
Or they heard this signal
That connection
Is forever
And that's pretty
That's pretty special
I'm not trying to get
Too corny
But the more I think about it
The more I realize
That that's something
That you really don't get
Every day
And sometimes
You don't know
Until it's gone
So
I hope everybody's
Enjoying it
I don't have a problem
With getting corny
I mean
I went down this path
A bit of the live show
This year
Around
We've always tried
In the podcast
To be very focused
On Firefly
The actors
And the cast
And the crew
And all this sort of stuff
And we've tried
To not really
Ever focus too much
On the podcast itself
You know
There's like
That whole fourth wall
Sort of thing
About
We don't tend
To talk about
What goes on
Behind the scenes
We don't tend to talk about
The experience
Of being the signal
Other than
You know
When we have done
Specific sections of the show
Looking at aspects
Of what it takes
To make the signal
You know
In the whole
We don't tend to talk
About that
And I think
It's quite nice
That we have
In this final show
Got the chance
To chat about
What it means
To be a part of
This thing
And yeah
You're right
It is a little bit corny
And it's a little bit
Self indulgent
But I think
Especially for those people
On the crew
That have been around
For ten years
I think
You know
We can spare them
Five minutes now
Well I'll tell you this
When I sent my email
To join the crew
I wasn't quite
As early as coming
I didn't start until
I think it was
The week that
Like the first episode
Was being released
So I wasn't part
Of the first one
I was only part
Of the second one
But I thought
Oh it's something
Audio fun I can do
Because at the time
I was recording
Audiobooks
For a friend of mine
So I loved playing
With all the audio stuff
On my computer
I'm like
Oh it's something
Firefly
I get to talk about
Firefly and record
This is fun
I'll do this
I had no idea
How big it would get
And like
How much there would be
To it
I guess
When I started
I was just in it for
Oh this
You know
This would be cool
I'll do this for
You know
And talk on the internet
That's fun
Yeah
Half an hour here and there
Yeah
Just for
Yeah
I spent half an hour
Yeah
Well the other
I was doing
Internet radio
At the same time
I was a radio DJ
Online
You know
At that same time
So I thought
Oh this is
You know
Pretty much the same thing
Yeah
Not so much
Quality wise
And content wise
Not so much
But I am so glad
That I did
Now
I didn't go
And do quite as many
Podcasts as Kevin
But I did
Try the whole
Start a podcast
To just like
You did
And Andy
And it's hard
It is hard
To try to run a podcast
Because I don't know
If you all feel
The same way
But if Jill had not
Been there
Driving everything
And keeping everything
Together
There's no way
I would have been
Near as diligent
About getting
My stuff done
And getting every
I mean it's
I'm not
That type of person
So it was good
To have people
That are
Those type of people
That are
Very organized
And very good
At
Delegating
And all that stuff
Running the show
Like
I tried producing
And I was not good at it
I mean
So so many
Podcasts that I've loved
Over the years
Have just pod faded
Where they just
They slowly
Slow down a little bit
Or they just stop
And you're waiting
For the next one
And it never comes
And things
And I totally agree
From when I did
My own podcast
And stuff
It gets really hard
Especially if
It gets to the point
Where it's just
You doing it
And
Trying to
Fit that
In and make that happen
And that's one of the
Strengths of
The Signal Crew
You know
The crew's always
Been so big
That it copes
With those peaks
And troughs
But you know
People like Jill
Being there
Driving us along
Over the years
Really made us
To the course
And I've spoken
To several people
That have sort of
Questioned
Why are we ending
Now
You know
Especially with
The comics
That's coming out
This year
And the game
Stuff
You know
QMix is far
Farer than our own game
And you know
Next year
Being ten years
Since the
Film came out
And stuff
And people say
Well why did you
Just keep going
And stuff
Or change
The form
And I think
It's just one of
Those things
That I think
We all just felt
That we'd reached
The point where
We wanted to
Make sure
That we didn't
Pod fade away
Because the work
Of all those people
All those years
Was important
To let it just
Drift at the end
And that's why
We wanted to have
This big
Sort of ending
With us all
Getting together
And you know
Doing you know
This big show
With everything in it
And stuff
Was because
We wanted to
Go out in a bang
As opposed to just
You know
Fade away
Into the black
And I think
It was
You know
It was more important
For us to manage
That planet
While we still had
The crew to do it
As opposed to
Letting that happen
And I don't know
What the rest of you
Think about
That and the
Show ending
But I think
It was not
An easy decision
And I know
We spent a lot
Of time
Talking about it
But for me
I think it's
I think we've done
The right thing
But I don't know
What you think
Well it's another
Example again
And I'm on the outside
Looking in now
The last couple of years
But again it's that
Very much ties into
That quality level
As you're saying Andy
And the amount of effort
That it takes to do that
Is just
Amazingly significant
And not a lot of folks
Get a chance
To see that
And a lot of the listeners
Are amazingly appreciative
So the crazy thing is
Is that
I think
This is the last thing
I'm ever going to do
For The Signal
Because I've done
Well because
I've done all my
In audio form
But yeah I've done
All my editing
And I've done all my
Recording stuff now
You know
This is the last bit
You know
And
So I've been
You know
It's like those weird things
Of I was looking forward
To doing this
But on the other hand
I wasn't
Because I sort of know
That when it all ends
Then that's it
You know
It's a strange feeling
But you do know
Now I'm going to
Find something
To give you to do
Oh yeah
Fates work
It's not that much love
I think
Yeah it's going to be
It's going to be strange
You know
Because
It's been
Such a big part
Of all of our lives
For so many years
Good company
Makes for good conversation
Yeah well it's pretty
Cool for me
I have to say
Because this is the first time
That I've ever spoken
To anyone other than
People I've met
To be able to
Because I have met
A few people before
From the podcast
So it's kind of special
For me to end
By actually meeting people
And talking to people
That I hadn't met before
Or spoken to before
So yeah
I just want to say
How much of a pleasure
It has been working
With all of you
Thank you
Over all this time
Over various times
Over all the years
And it really genuinely has
You know
We know each other online
Yeah isn't that terrific
But it's like that
With brown
It's a brown coat thing
We've sped it all the way
Through this
It's like family
You're comfortable
It's like coming home
You can just relax
And be yourself
And that's
Exactly
That's really cool
Maybe we'll have to do this
Again sometime
Oh yes
Well you know
Who knows
You know
I can't
I can't promise anything
We can't promise anything
But you know
You never know
So Ami
It's been lovely
To sit here
By the fireside
With a drink
In the moonlight
Looking at the lake
Yeah it's time for me
To go find more alcohol
But yeah
It's been lovely
Having this time
To have a chat with you guys
And yeah
I know that
We'll all stay
In touch
In the years to come
And I just
You know
I'll say again
That I just feel
Immensely privileged
To have had
The opportunity
And you know
To be part
Of this
I think
You know
Both as a listener
Originally
Then as a member
Of the crew
Over the last few years
And just to thank
Everyone that's been
You know
That helped
Make that possible
And that's listened
Along the way
And stuff
So
Thank you
Aww
No this has been wonderful
It really has been
And it was so great
Andy seeing you guys
Too
This was so much fun
To get back
Into the swing
Of doing this
It's been
A wonderful ride
I do miss it
As much as
My life has gotten
Very busy
I miss the camaraderie
Congratulations
On ten years
That's pretty amazing
And I hope
That we can all
Stay in touch
We would like to thank
All of the past
Signal crew members
Who couldn't be here today
They are
Brad Boyer
Voice artist
Four seconds
Brian Weiser
Done the impossible
Five seconds
Clay McClure
Host
One show
Voice artist
Eleven seconds
Writer
Sixteen seconds
Thank you
Dave Tomasek
Voice actor
Twenty-one segments
Writer
Twenty segments
Editor
Thirty-four segments
David Moore
Writer
Twelve segments
Voice artist
Sixteen segments
Dilla
Reader and writer
Eleven segments
Editor
Seven segments
Doug Moran
Host
One show
Voice artist
Four segments
Writer
Fifteen segments
J.D. Ravine
Producer
One show
Host
Two shows
Voice artist
Forty-nine segments
Editor
Many segments
Jen Baldwin
Reader and writer
Eight segments
Jeremy Nish
Done the impossible
Five segments
John Anthony
Host
One show
Voice artist
Six segments
Kevin Baer
Voice artist
Two segments
Kent LaFavors
Voice artist
One segment
Editor
Many segments
Lindsay Tichel
Editor
Many segments
Mary King
Producer
Six shows
Voice artist
Twelve segments
Writer
Twenty-two segments
Rachel
Adam
Voice artist
Three segments
Writer
Nine segments
Steve Kozicki
Host
One show
Voice artist
Six segments
Writer
Fifty-five segments
Tracy Hickman
Host
One show
Voice artist
Twelve segments
Editor
Five segments
Writer
Ten segments
Trappist Whiteman
Host
One show
Writer
Sixteen segments
Voice artist
Thirty-three segments
Wayne Hutchinson
Host
Five shows
Editor
Twelve segments
Writer
Twenty segments
Voice artist
Twenty-four segments
Ye Wang
Editor
Forty segments
We also want to thank J.C. Hutchins, author of The Thirty-three and Seventh Son, for reprising
his role as Mark Pins in the final episode of Earthburn.
Please visit his website at jchutchins.net.
Finally, we would also like to thank three people who are honorary crew members.
They are
Ben Edwards
Host
One show
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We'll be back soon with another episode of SHOWTOMB in the future.
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Bye.
Good-bye.
From sunny day
What just happened?
The electricity ran out, our cars are all out of fuel, and the batteries are all dead.
We've just been podcasting too hard for too long.
So I guess that's the end of the show.
I guess so.
No, wait, you're forgetting something.
What are we forgetting?
My bicycle. It has a dynamo.
He's right. Go for it. You're a hero.
Does that mean...
It means we can keep podcasting so long as Paul can keep pedaling.
When the stars shine bright through the engine's trail
And the dust of another world drops behind
When my ship is free of the open sky
It's a damn good day to my way of mine
There's a barren planet you never can leave
There's a rocky valley where we lost to war
There's a cross once hung around a soldier's neck
There's a man's faith died for a war
All serenity's floor
But I stood my ground
And I'll fly once more
It's the last oath
That I ever swore
So take my love
Take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care
I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me
Take me out into the black
Tell them I ain't coming back
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me
Now when you see a man
And he's standing alone
Well you might just take him
For an easy mark
And there's many a man
Who's tried his hand
And there's worse than wolves
In the borderland dark
From the savage men
To the government pounds
Try to take what's yours
And tear you through
How about them that run with me
He's got my back
It's a fool don't know
That his family's his crew
Don't you tell me
What I cannot do
Don't you think I've got to run from you
Just take my love
Take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care
I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me
Take me out into the black
Tell them I ain't coming back
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me
When you've walked my road
And you've seen what I've seen
Well you won't go talking about
Righteous men
You know damn well
I want a key to my sky
Never cry and eat
Nobody's heel again
I've seen torment
Wrapped across innocent souls
Seen sane men met
And good men die
I've been hounded
Hated, married and tricked
I've been tortured, cheated
Shot and tied
You won't see no tears
When I say goodbye
I've still got my family
And a firefly
So take my hand
Take my love
Take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care
I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me
Take me out into the black
Tell them I ain't coming back
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me
You okay, mate?
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