【50品目】アバウト サンサンフェスティバル

ゆとり元年世代の

The generation of the first year of Yutori.

湯上がりポッドラック

After-Bath Potluck

シーズン2

Season 2

こんばんは千尋です

Good evening, this is Chihiro.

こんばんはなおです

Good evening, it's Nao.

この番組は

This program is

銭湯上がりに繰り広げる

Unfolding after a visit to the public bath.

サウナのように熱く

As hot as a sauna.

水風呂のように深い

As deep as a water bath.

持ち寄りトークになっております

It's a potluck talk.

なっております

It is happening.

大層ご無沙汰でございます

It has been a long time since we last met.

いやー本当に

Well, really.

もう今セリフで

Just now in a line.

冒頭なんて言うんだかちょっと

I'm not quite sure what to say at the beginning.

忘れかけてて

I was about to forget.

すごい

Amazing

新鮮ですね逆に

It's fresh, isn't it?

いやーねーほんと

Well, it's just really...

皆さん生きてましたけど

Everyone was alive, though.

元気かー

How are you?

元気ー

I'm doing well!

ねー暑かったですね夏も

Hey, it was hot, wasn't it, summer?

やっと終わりかけですけど

It's finally coming to an end, but...

もう9月やのにクソ暑いよな

It's already September, and it's ridiculously hot.

暑いねー

It's hot, isn't it?

もう終わるかなーと思って

I was thinking it might be over soon.

そろそろなおたろう聞き始めたんですけど

I've just started listening to Naotarou.

全然でした

Not at all.

地味にな地味にまだ暑いから

It's still quite hot, albeit somewhat understated.

ねー本当に

Hey, really.

前回の収録がいつだっけ?

When was the last recording?

前回が

Last time was

4月?5月?

April? May?

多分夏本番入る手前

Maybe just before the peak of summer.

初夏とかだと思うんですよ

I think it's early summer.

季節またいでもうた

"I sang across the seasons."

またいでもうてます

You can step on it again.

ねー

Hey!

怒っちゃうよなー

I can understand why you'd get angry.

でね

So, you see...

撮ってないときに一応

Just in case when I'm not taking pictures.

二人で

Together as two people.

旅行に行ってきたという

I went on a trip.

くだりがありまして

There is a descent.

非常に

Very

楽しかったのでそのお話を

It was fun, so I'll tell you that story.

したいなと思うんですけど

I think I want to do it.

6月に行ったよね

You went in June, right?

確かね

Certainly.

だいぶ前だね6月か

It's been a while, hasn't it? Around June, right?

そうなんだ

I see.

やばい

Oh no!

もう記憶が

I can no longer remember.

怖いなー

That's scary.

いやー

Well...

そんな感じなんだ

That's how it is.

なんか

Somehow/Some kind of.

そうなんです

That's right.

遥か昔に思える私は

I feel like I was a long time ago.

確かにだいぶ前な

It's certainly been quite a while.

気がしますが

I have a feeling that...

ちょっと二人で予定を

Let's make some plans for just the two of us.

合わせてね

Match it up, okay?

そうなんです旅行もちゃんとね

That's right, I'm properly traveling too.

コンセプトを決めて

Decide on the concept.

ちゃんと旅行のタイトルまで

Make sure to include the title of the trip as well.

今回決まってまして

This time it's decided.

なんて言うんでしたっけ

What was it called again?

さんさん

Sunsun

フェスティバル

Festival

イェーイ

Yay!

さんさんですみなさん

Hello everyone!

さんさんカタカナでね

In katakana, please.

ダサいでしょ

It's embarrassing, right?

バリダサいわ

That's so lame.

そこが狙い

That's the target.

なんですけどね

Well, you see...

なんでさんさんなん

Why is it san-san?

なんでかっていうと

The reason is that

我々今ちょうど

We are just now.

33歳なんですよ

I am 33 years old.

そう

Yes.

今年の

This year's

冬?

Winter?

年明けどっかでちーちゃんが

After the New Year, somewhere Chii-chan will be.

東京に来た際に

When you come to Tokyo

なんかスーパー銭湯行って

I think I'll go to a super sento (a large public bath).

その帰りに本当にノリで

On the way back, I really just went with the flow.

33歳で

At 33 years old

イェーイさんさん

Yay, sunshine!

みたいにバカみたいに騒いでって

"Make a fuss like an idiot."

でそこからの流れで

And from there, the flow is...

旅行行きたくない

I don't want to go on a trip.

どうするってのって

What do you mean by "what to do"?

でどこ行こう

So where shall we go?

さんさん太陽の国

The Country of the Shining Sun

岡山とかいいんじゃない

How about Okayama?

じゃあそうしようみたいな

Then let's do that.

ゆるい感じで

In a relaxed feeling.

岡山広島旅行に行ってきました

I went on a trip to Okayama and Hiroshima.

行ってきました

I went.

山陽ですね

It's Sanyo, isn't it?

山陽が

Sanyo is.

あっちあの

Over there, that.

内海側

Utsumi side

そうそうそうそう

That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right.

がなくなっちゃうんだよね

It will disappear, you know.

なるほど

I see.

そうなんです

That's right.

でもほぼ広島旅行だったよね

But it was almost a trip to Hiroshima, right?

岡山一部みたいな

Like a part of Okayama.

うんずっとなおちゃん

Yeah, always Naoko.

岡山におる気でおったけど

I was intending to be in Okayama.

結構広島やったからな

It was quite wide in Hiroshima.

ほぼ広島だったね

It was almost Hiroshima, wasn't it?

いやほぼほぼっていうか

Well, more or less...

100%広島じゃないんかな

Isn't it 100% not Hiroshima?

でも最初は岡山駅に降りだったんだけどね

But at first, I got off at Okayama Station.

なんかそれでちょっと満足ありますけど

I feel somewhat satisfied with that.

そう

I see.

なんか非常によくってですね

It's something really great.

これそうそう

This is it.

友之浦と

Tomonoura and

尾道に行ってきたので

I went to Onomichi.

そうそう尾道

That's right, Onomichi.

そうなんです

That's right.

結構ちーちゃんのね

It's quite Chi-chan's, you know.

顔が広くって

Well-connected.

いろいろなんか

Various things

うわちーちゃんすげーや

Wow, Chi-chan is amazing!

って思うシーンがたくさんあったり

There were many scenes that made me think that way.

したりとか

Like doing things, or something like that.

えっと

Um...

そっかよ

I see.

福山だね福山駅

It's Fukuyama, Fukuyama Station.

あれ広島か

Is that Hiroshima?

福山で

In Fukuyama.

借りて

Borrow it.

で友之浦っていう

It's called Tomonoura.

崖の上のぽにょの

Ponyo on the Cliff by the Sea

舞台になったと言われている

It is said to have been the stage.

すんごいこじんまりした港町

A really small and cozy port town.

に立ち寄って

stop by

そこで鉄を

There, iron...

叩いてきたんですよ

I was hit.

そうそうこれもなんかノリで

Yeah, yeah, this is something done on a whim too.

鉄叩きたくねって

I don't want to hit the iron.

サイトを見つけて

Find the site.

ちーちゃんの関係の知り合いだったんですけど

I was an acquaintance of Chi-chan's.

めっちゃいいじゃんってなって

That's so great!

結局鉄を叩いて

In the end, strike the iron.

フライパン作りましたね

You made a frying pan, didn't you?

ね

Right?

フライパン作りっていう

It's called making a frying pan.

なんかプランがあってな

I have some kind of plan.

あれすごくよかったな

That was really great.

いやー

Well...

なんか

Somehow

思いのほか楽しかったね

It was unexpectedly fun, wasn't it?

いやー楽しかった

Yeah, that was fun!

なんか旅行でああやってさ

"Like that during a trip, you know?"

物として

As an object

残るといいねって思った

I thought it would be good if it stays.

体験もそうだけどさ

It's not just about the experience, you know?

すごく残るね

It really lingers, doesn't it?

うん

Yeah.

鉄を熱して叩いて

Heat the iron and strike it.

固くしてフライパンの形に

Firmly shape it into a frying pan.

していくんやけれども

I will continue to do it, but...

なんかもともとその

Well, originally that...

友之浦が

Tomonokura Bay

鍛冶屋が多いところで

A place with many blacksmiths.

で

So,

なんかそれで産業として

Somehow, it becomes an industry with that.

やったからそれで体験しようって

I did it, so I'll experience it with that.

言ったんやけれども

I said it, but...

二人とも同じフライパンを作ったのに

Even though both of them made the same frying pan.

ちょっと全然

Not at all.

仕上がりが違くて

The finish is different.

いやー性格出るねあれ本当に

Wow, that really shows your personality, doesn't it?

なーちょっと

Hey, wait a minute.

私はちょっと

I'm a little bit.

なおちゃんの無骨な感じの方が

Nao-chan's rough-around-the-edges feeling is better.

羨ましかったんやけど

I was envious.

そうなんですよ

That's right.

私のフライパンがめちゃくちゃ

My frying pan is a mess.

粗削りで無骨な感じ

A rough and rugged feeling.

なんか

Something.

叩くから表面上ゴツゴツするんですけど

It feels rough on the surface because it's been struck.

なんかすごい

That's amazing.

クレーターみたいな感じなんだ私のは

Mine feels like a crater.

でなんか色も

And somehow the color too

なんか無骨って感じ

It feels kind of rough.

なんですけど

Well, you see...

ちーちゃんのは

This is Chii-chan's.

なんか職人芸というか

It's like a craftsmanship or something.

もっと繊細な感じで

In a more delicate way.

そのクレーター味がちょっと抑えられてて

That crater flavor is a bit subdued.

なだらかなんですよ

It's gentle/sloping.

なんか色もちょっとまろやかな感じがして

It has a somewhat mellow feeling to the color.

なんか

Somehow

性格出るなーっていう

It shows your personality, doesn't it?

なんか面白かったなー

That was kind of interesting, wasn't it?

出たねー

You made it!

いやーなおちゃんの良かったよ

Yeah, Naoko was great.

渋いあっちの方が私が

That's the way I prefer it.

お客さんだったら買うな

If you were a customer, you wouldn't buy it.

あのー

Um...

あれで油たっぷりで目玉焼きとか作ると

If you make fried eggs with plenty of oil like that...

すごいカリっとしてめっちゃ美味しいです

It's incredibly crispy and really delicious!

あと

Later.

後退でやったんですけど

I did it in reverse, though.

私の運転がちょっと恐ろしすぎたようで

It seems my driving was a bit too frightening.

ちーちゃんが何回も絶叫したりとか

Chi-chan screaming multiple times and such.

あと

"After"

めっちゃ怖かった

It was really scary.

あかん怖かったマジで

That was bad, I was really scared.

だってずっとシートベルト掴んでたもん

Because I was holding onto the seatbelt the whole time.

こうやって

Like this.

私見てた

I was watching.

怖い死ぬかもしれんって思った

I'm scared; I thought I might die.

そんなこんなんで無事

With all that said, we're all safe.

尾道

Onomichi

尾道だよね

It's Onomichi, right?

尾道着いて

Arrived in Onomichi.

で、なんか、だらーって歩きながら、素敵なお店を物色しながら、みたいな感じでした。

So, it was like, just walking around leisurely, browsing through some nice shops.

この道な、四辺が良かったですね。

This road was nice on all four sides, wasn't it?

四辺、ね。

Four sides, right?

本屋さん?

A bookstore?

そうですね。

That's right.

四辺っていう名前の本屋さんだね、多分、があって。

There's probably a bookstore called "Shihen."

ていうか、あの辺全体的にすごく洒落てますよね、なんか。

I mean, that whole area is really stylish, isn’t it?

やしし、なんか、ちょうどコロナも落ち着いてきた頃やって、なんか、お祭りとかもしてたから、なんやろ、なんか、久々に、うわぁ、旅行したーって感覚になって、それも楽しかった。

Well, it was around the time when the COVID situation was calming down, and they were having festivals and such, so I felt like, wow, it was my first trip in a while, and that was really fun.

あと、なんかね、尾道という街が、かなり、こう、活気がある感じがして、すごい好ましかったです。

Also, the city of Onomichi felt very lively and I really liked it.

なんていうかね、10年前に、

How can I put this, ten years ago,

なんか、2回ぐらい行ったことがあったんだけど、10年前よりも、元気な街になっている感じがして、なんとなく。

Somehow, I've been there about twice, and it feels like the town is livelier than it was 10 years ago, in a way.

うーん。

Hmm.

で、なんかね、結構若い人とかも多いし、なんか、住みついている外国人っぽい、もう見た目からして、そんな感じの元気のある人も結構いたりとかしたり、

Well, there are quite a few young people, and there are also many foreigners who seem to have settled down here; just from their appearance, there were quite a few energetic-looking people too.

なんか、イベントも結構活発で、お祭りとかもね、いろんな地域のお店とか出てて、

It seems that the events are quite lively, with festivals and various local shops setting up booth from different regions.

すごい、なんか、地域のコミュニティーが、

Amazing, it's like the local community is...

ベイビーとしてめっちゃいいなーって、なんか、すごいいい気持ちになりましたね。

Being a baby feels really great, and somehow, it made me feel really good.

うーん。

Hmm.

ねー、確かに。

Hey, that's true.

いい感じだった。

It was nice.

そうそう。

That's right.

なんか、古いものを活かすのが上手だよね。

You have a knack for making the most of old things.

あのー、今回泊まった宿もそうですけど。

Um, it's the same with the accommodation we stayed at this time.

いや、そう、私はそこの宿にどうしても泊まりたくて、

No, well, I really want to stay at that inn over there,

そう。

That's right.

そこに行きたいって、

I want to go there.

やだだこねて泊まったんですけど。

I didn't want to, but I ended up staying.

いや、よかったー。

No, that's good!

そう、尾道ログに泊まってきました。

Yes, I stayed at Onomichi Log.

めちゃくちゃよかった。

It was amazing.

あと2日ぐらい入れるって感じ。

It feels like I can hold on for about two more days.

よかったねー。

I'm glad for you!

本当に、ログって名前の宿で。

Really, a lodge named Log.

いい宿でしたねー。

It was a nice inn.

なんか、もともとアパートかなんかだったんだよね、あれ。

It was originally some kind of apartment, you know.

うん。

Yeah.

なんか、なんか、市営住宅みたいな感じだった。

It felt somewhat like a public housing project.

うんうん。

Uh-huh.

もう、本当に日本の古い市営住宅。

It's really an old public housing in Japan.

日本の古い市営住宅みたいな、建物を外骨格だけ残して、全面リノベして、

It's like an old Japanese public housing structure, leaving only the external skeleton of the building and completely renovating it.

うん。

Yeah.

なんか、海外の建築スタジオが絡んで、

It seems that an overseas architecture studio is involved.

かなりね、尾道の歴史とかも考慮しつつ、素敵にリノベした作品のお宿で、

It's a lovely renovated accommodation that takes into account the history of Onomichi as well.

ねー。

Hey.

うん。

Yeah.

なんかね、その、なんていうんだろう。

Well, um, how should I put this...

その、建築の人の思い入れというか、愛情というか、

It's about the feelings or affection that the people in architecture have.

うん。

Yeah.

そういうのがめちゃくちゃ伝わってきて、作った時のその、作りました、宿作るためのなんか、なんていうの。

I can really feel that, like, the kind of thing you create when you make something, like, what do you call it, to create an inn.

作るまでの記録みたいなやつを、お客さん向けに一般公開してる書物が置いてあって、結構普通に読めるんですけど、ああいうの見ると、すごいこだわりが詰まってて、面白かったです。

There's a book that publicly shares records about the process of making things, aimed at customers, and it's quite easy to read. When I see something like that, it’s filled with amazing attention to detail, and I found it interesting.

ね。

Okay.

なんか、私はこういう風に使いたいみたいな設計図とか、なんか、イメージ図みたいなのがバババババって貼ってたりとかして、

It seems like I want to have something like a blueprint or an image that I can use in this way, and it's like a bunch of them are posted everywhere.

ね。

Yeah.

なんか、場所を作るっていいなーって、すごい、ちょっと、なんかね、デザイナーとしては、その、ずっと残るものを作るって、うらやましいなーと思いながら、すごいそれを読んでました。

Creating a space is really nice, and as a designer, I was reading it with envy, thinking that it’s amazing to create something that lasts forever.

あー、そういうことだったんだ。

Ah, so that's what it was.

うん。

Yeah.

そう、なんか、そういう本とか、その、宿を作るにあたって、インスパイアされたデザイン集とかを集めたライブだったりとか。

Yes, it's like a live event where we gather design collections that were inspired by books or things related to creating accommodations.

うん。

Yeah.

なんか、ライブラリーっていう場所があって、そこも貸し切りで入れるんですけど、ちーちゃんが結構そこで熱心にね、ずーっとなんか読んでて、何考えてんだろうって思ってたんですけど、私結構飽きちゃって、いろいろキョロキョロしてたんですけど、なるほどねーって思いました。

There's a place called the library that can also be reserved for private use, and Chi-chan was really focused on reading there for quite a while. I was wondering what she was thinking, but I got pretty bored and was looking around at various things. But then I thought, "I see."

ね。あそこが一番時間使ったかもしれん。

Yeah. That might have taken the most time.

ねー、よかったー。食べ物もね、美味しかったよね。

Hey, that was great! The food was delicious too, right?

いやー、もうなんか、家具もそうやし。

Well, you know, it's like with the furniture too.

内装もそうやし。

The interior is like that as well.

食べ物もそうやし。

It's the same with food.

んー、好きって感じ、シンプルに。

Hmm, it feels like I just simply like it.

うん、なんかねー、こだわりがすごかった。

Yeah, you know, there was a strong obsession with it.

柔らかい感じで。

Soft feeling.

ねー、ちょっとちゃんと地元の、そうそう、地元のお野菜使ってたりとか、なんか一個一個ちゃんと選んで作られてんねんなーってことを思うと、なんかそういうのが居心地いい空間を作りますよねーって思いながら。

Hey, when I think about how they’re properly using local vegetables and carefully choosing each ingredient, it really creates a comfortable space, doesn’t it?

うんー。

Hmm.

ですし、実際めちゃくちゃ美味しくって、なんかちゃんとした料理研究家の方が監修されたレシピらしく、私あそこで食べたあの、インゲンの上にカラスミ乗ってるやつの、インゲン、インゲンじゃない、アスパラだ。

It's really delicious, and it seems like the recipe was supervised by a proper culinary expert. That dish I had there with the mullet roe on top of the green beans—no, not green beans, it was asparagus.

うん。

Yeah.

あそこで食べたアスパラが人生で一番うまいアスパラでした。

The asparagus I ate over there was the best asparagus I've ever had in my life.

ねー。

Hey.

それはよかったー。

That's good!

ほんと美味しかった。

It was really delicious.

あと朝、あの、パンケーキが出てくるんですけど、パンケーキの上になんかチーズをこうスライスしたやつをふりかけてくれるんですけど、あれもめちゃくちゃ美味しくって、甘じょっぱくってねー。

Also, in the morning, they serve pancakes, and they sprinkle some sliced cheese on top of the pancakes, and that is really delicious, sweet and savory.

美味しかったねー、あれー。

That was delicious, wasn't it?

美味しかった。あれもちょっと人生でかなり上位にくる美味しさでしたねー。

It was delicious. That was definitely one of the top flavors in my life.

いやー。

Well...

ねー。

Hey.

いやー、そうなんですよねー。メニューのオーダー表とかもねー、ちょっといい紙を使われてたりとかして。

Yeah, that's true. Even the menu order sheets are printed on some nice paper and all.

とか、あと、

Like, and also,

お料理が乗ってくる器とかねー。

Like the dishes that the food comes in, you know?

うん。そう、私はその、吹きガラスの器とかコップとかが出てきたんやけど、もうそれにちょっと夢中になりすぎて、もうその人をひたすら調べ送るというのは、ここ数ヶ月のやってることです。

Yes. So, I've been really into things like blown glass vessels and cups, and I've been spending the last few months just researching and sending information about that person non-stop.

あの、はい、私もちーちゃんほどでは多分ないにしろ、めちゃくちゃ気になって、めちゃくちゃ調べて、なかなかそう、個展とかやらない限り売らなきゃいけない。

Um, yes, I might not be as much as Chii-chan, but I'm really curious and I've done a lot of research. It's quite difficult; unless I hold a solo exhibition, I have to sell it.

うん。

Yeah.

でも、メニューとかやらない限り売らない人っぽいんですけど、めったにやらなくって、ね。もう帰り道、その情報ばっか交換してましたね、2人で。

However, it seems like they wouldn't sell unless they have a menu or something, and they hardly do it. On the way back, we were just exchanging that information, just the two of us.

いやー、ほんと、いやー、そう、横山秀樹さんって言うんですけど、いやー、あれはいいよー、ちょっと、マジで欲しいわー。今年絶対買う。

Wow, really, wow, his name is Hideki Yokoyama, but wow, that's great, I really want it, seriously, I definitely want to buy it this year.

私も、あの、売り出されたら買いたいです。ちっちゃいバケツサイズのこれ。

I also want to buy this, the small bucket-sized one, when it's released.

うん。

Yeah.

本当に可愛らしくって。

It's really cute.

ね。

Yeah.

うん。

Yeah.

なかなかな、イケオジが作られてるんで、ちょっと、皆さんにもし興味があれば、調べてみてください。

Well, there are some really good-looking older guys being made, so if any of you are interested, please check it out.

ぜひ。

Sure.

結構、ご高齢なのかな?

Are you quite elderly?

いや、でも、そんな、80とか70とかじゃないやろ。50代、60代じゃないんかな。

No, but it's not like that, it's not 80 or 70. Isn't it in the 50s or 60s?

かな。けど、そう、めったに展示とかやらないんですけど、ぜひ。めっちゃ可愛いので。

I wonder. But, yes, I hardly ever do exhibitions, so please. It's super cute.

うん。ちょっと、虜になってしまいました。

Yeah. I've become a little enchanted.

ねー、素敵だったねー。

Hey, that was lovely, wasn't it?

うーん。

Hmm.

ねー。そう、ちょっと、また行きたいなー、ここは。

Hey. Yeah, I kind of want to go there again.

いやー、ほんと良かった。私、結構、ほんとに良かったので、その、フライパンとログ含め、もう、全体的に。

Yeah, it was really good. I truly felt it was great overall, including the frying pan and the logs.

うん。

Yeah.

なんか、派手めにウェーイっていうのもなかったけど、なんか、しっとりと心に残る良さがあった気がしてて、結構、自慢しまくったんですよ、会社の人に。

Well, there wasn't anything too flashy like "woohoo," but I felt like there was something quietly memorable about it, and I ended up bragging quite a bit about it to my colleagues.

ねー。

Hey.

あー、ほんま。嬉しいな、なんか。

Ah, really. I'm so happy, somehow.

そしたら、なんか、めっちゃ良いなーって言われて、なんか、良いな思い出が2倍ぐらいになってます、今。

Then, someone told me that it was really great, and now I feel like my good memories have doubled.

そう。で、なんか、私、カメラ持って、フィルムカメラを持って、ずっと写真撮ってたんですけど、あの、ログで撮った、なおちゃんの、むっちゃ良い奇跡の1枚があったので、ちょっと、プレゼントをして。

Yes. So, I was holding a camera, a film camera, and taking pictures for a long time, and I had a really amazing miraculous shot of Nao-chan that I took in the log, so I thought I would give it as a little present.

はい。あの、方々に、愛さとして使わせてもらってます。

Yes. Um, I am using it as love for various people.

気に入って頂けて。

I'm glad you liked it.

はははははは。

Hahaha.

いや、あれ、良い写真よなー。ちょっと、自画自賛したわ、見た瞬間。

No, that's a nice photo, isn't it? I kind of patted myself on the back when I saw it.

いやー、私史上、一番透明感ある写真でした。本当に、ありがとうございます。

Wow, it was the most transparent photo I've ever had in my life. Really, thank you so much.

いやー、嬉しい。

Well, I'm glad.

いやー。

Well...

いや、フィルムは、それが楽しいよねー。

No, films are really fun, aren't they?

本当に上手。

Really good.

うん。

Yeah.

いやー、なんか、好きやなー、フィルムの方が。

Yeah, I really like film more.

うん。そう、ちーちゃんの原造作品見て、触発されて、あの、写るんですを、とりあえず買いました。

Yeah. I saw Chii-chan's original works, and I was inspired, so I went ahead and bought a disposable camera.

あ、良いじゃないですか。

Ah, that's good, isn't it?

まずはね、ってことで、そろそろ。

First of all, well then, it's about time.

うん。良いと思う。

Yeah. I think it's good.

いやー、そう。ちょっと、もう一回止まって、もう一回、設計図の図面を一日見ときたいわ、私は。

Oh, I see. Well, I’d like to stop for a moment and take another day to look at the blueprints again.

ふふ。結構、あなた見てましたよ。

Hehe. I've been watching you quite a bit.

ふっ。

Hmph.

ガッツリ。

Thoroughly.

いやー、やっぱなー、憧れ、憧れるよ。なんか、羨ましいよね、建築家って。

Yeah, I really admire them. It's kind of enviable, being an architect.

あ、物を残すという意味で?

Oh, do you mean leaving something behind?

だって、自分がデザインしたものがさ、神殿もずっと建ってる可能性あるやんか。

Well, there's a possibility that the things I've designed, like the temple, could be standing for a long time.

なるほど。

I see.

ロマンがあるよね。

There's a sense of romance, isn't there?

ロマンかー。私、そこ感じられない派なんだよな。

Romance, huh? I'm not really the type to feel that way.

うん。

Yeah.

うそー。だってさ、建物を作るってさ、その、まあ、コンセプトもあったり、生活があったりとかさ、もう、ある程度、すごい長い年月を見越して、

No way. I mean, building a structure involves concepts, lifestyles, and so on, and you have to consider it over a considerable long span of time.

うん。

Yeah.

作るわけやん。

That's why I'm going to make it.

うん。

Yeah.

愛される街になるように、みたいな。

To become a city that is loved, or something like that.

うん。

Yeah.

その、なんか、思いも結構、テンション上がるし、なんか、一個一個、こう、土台から作って、壁塗って、みたいな、工程も結構、見てると面白いし、

Well, you know, it's exciting in a way, and each step, like building from the foundation and painting the walls, is quite interesting to watch.

うん。

Yeah.

なんか、一番、できた感があるっていうか。

It's like, it feels the most accomplished, you know?

確かにねー。確かにねー。できた感はあるかもなー。

Certainly. There is indeed a sense of accomplishment, isn't there?

うん。

Yeah.