【#30】メンタルの不調は〇〇を見れば分かる！

みなさんこんにちは 働く大人女子のための今日から使える心理学

Hello everyone, psychology that working adult women can use starting today.

本日は第30回目となります 本日もココロニストの角本沙織と

Today marks the 30th time. Today as well, I’m Saori Kakumoto, your Kokoronist.

売上デザインラボの久野洋一でお送りいたします よろしくお願いします

This is Yoichi Kuno from the Sales Design Lab. Thank you for your attention.

記念すべき30回目ということになりました

This marks the remarkable 30th time.

あっという間ですね いろいろな心理学のテクニックについてお伝えしてきたんですけれども

It has gone by in a flash, hasn't it? I've been sharing various psychological techniques with you.

今日はですね メンタルの不調は○○を見ればわかるということについてお伝えしたいんですが

Today, I would like to talk about how you can understand mental health issues by looking at ○○.

何を見ればわかるでしょう

What can I see to understand?

目とか手の動きとか仕草とか

Movements of the eyes, hands, and gestures.

うん

Yeah.

確かにきっとそういうのにも出ると思うんですけど

I definitely think that kind of thing will come up too.

もっとパッと街で見ててもわかるような

Something that would be more noticeable just by looking at it in the city.

姿勢ですか

Is it about posture?

惜しいですね

That's a shame.

歩くスピードや歩幅なんです

It's the walking speed and stride length.

なるほどはい

I see, yes.

歩くスピードや歩幅について気にしたことってありますか

Have you ever thought about your walking speed and stride?

そうですね

That's right.

腹筋に力を入れて大股で歩くと

When you walk with wide strides while engaging your腹筋 (abdominals)...

うん

Yeah.

なんか消費エネルギーが

It feels like the energy consumption is...

うんうん

Uh-huh.

負担あって

"With a burden"

普通に歩くよりも健康的で体重が適正になるかなと思いながら意識してやってることあります

I consciously do things thinking that they might be healthier and help me maintain an appropriate weight compared to just walking normally.

なるほどそうなんですまさにそれは健康面でのメリットとして

I see, that's exactly it, as a benefit in terms of health.

はい

Yes.

早く今のようにですね

Quickly, just like now.

意識的に例えば腹筋に力を入れながらとかで歩くと

For example, if you consciously walk while engaging your abdominal muscles,

生活習慣予防とか

Lifestyle habit prevention, etc.

なるほど

I see.

生活習慣病予防とかですね

It's about preventing lifestyle-related diseases.

あと便秘解消とか

Also for relieving constipation.

ストレスとかとか

Stress and such.

ストレス解消とか

Relaxation or stress relief.

はい

Yes.

骨を強くするとか

To strengthen the bones or something like that.

はい

Yes

まあ様々な効果があることが分かっているんですけども

Well, it's understood that there are various effects.

なんか私の大学のアメフト部の同期がですね

It seems that a teammate from my university's football club...

はい

Yes.

パートさん含めると3000人から4000人ぐらいの会社の社長やってるんですけど

I am the president of a company with about 3,000 to 4,000 people, including part-time employees.

はい

Yes

そいつはなんかもういつも朝4時台に目が覚めて

That guy always wakes up around 4 AM.

うん

Yeah.

それでこう散歩をしてるらしいんですよね

So it seems they're taking a walk like this.

はい

Yes

で多分1時間2時間ぐらいに歩くと

If you walk for about 1 or 2 hours, then...

1時間ぐらい散歩をしてるらしいんですけど

It seems that they have been walking for about an hour.

はい

Yes.

多分ちょっと瞑想状態になってるみたいで

I think I'm in a bit of a meditative state.

いろいろとその会社のこととかのアイディアが

I have various ideas about that company.

散歩に伴ってくるっていう

They say it comes along with a walk.

なんかそういう効果もあるみたいですね

It seems that there are some effects like that too.

歩くのはね本当にいいと言われてますよね

They say that walking is really good for you, right?

うん

Yeah.

はい

Yes.

なので歩くスピードとか歩幅っていうのが

So the walking speed and stride length are...

効果的だってことは逆を言うと

If it's effective, that means the opposite is also true.

はい

Yes

そことメンタルの関係性

The relationship between that and mental state.

っていうのも実は密接にある

Actually, there is a close connection.

っていうことなんですね

That’s what it means.

様々な研究や実験から

From various studies and experiments

メンタルを病んでいる人ほど

The more a person suffers from mental illness.

歩くスピードが遅くなって

My walking speed has slowed down.

歩幅が短くなる

The stride becomes shorter.

っていうデータが出てるんです

There is data that shows that.

逆に言うと歩くスピードが

In other words, the walking speed is

速くて大股で歩く人は

A person who walks quickly and with long strides.

一概にはいないんですけど

It's not the case that there aren't any at all.

メンタルが強めの傾向がある

Tends to have a strong mentality.

もちろん歩くスピードを上げたら

Of course, if you increase your walking speed.

メンタルが強くなるってわけではないんですけども

It's not that you'll become mentally stronger, but...

継続的に行うことで

By continuing to do so

さっきのような体や

A body like earlier.

心にメンタルにもいい効果がある

It has a positive effect on the heart and mental well-being.

っていうのは言えますし

I can say that.

さらに歩行速度が速い人は

Furthermore, those who walk at a faster pace.

大きな病気にかかる

Get a serious illness.

リスクっていうのも当然ちょっと

Of course, there is a bit of risk involved.

減りますし

It decreases.

それから認知障害とかの

And then there's cognitive impairment and such.

リスクも

Risk as well

下がるので

Because it will go down.

健康な状態でいられる

I can remain in a healthy state.

確率が高まる

Probability increases.

作成率が高い

High creation rate.

ということもわかってます

I understand that as well.

はい

Yes

松尾芭蕉とか

Matsuo Bashō and so on.

伊能忠敬って

What is Inō Tadataka?

地図の方ですよね

It's the map, isn't it?

あの時代に生きた人にしてみたら

For someone who lived in that era.

めちゃくちゃご長寿じゃないですか

Aren't they incredibly long-lived?

はい

Yes

やっぱり日本全国を

After all, all over Japan.

テクテクテクテク

Tap tap tap tap

元気に歩き回ってたからなんじゃないかって

I think it might be because I was walking around energetically.

言われてますよね

It is said, isn't it?

ありえますよね

It is possible, isn't it?

移動距離がありえないぐらいの距離ですもんね

The travel distance is absurdly far, isn't it?

そうですよね

That's right.

なのでそういう意味では

So in that sense

自分の

My own

歩くスピードとか歩幅に意識をするのもさることながら

In addition to being aware of walking speed and stride length...

例えば身近な人の

For example, a person close to you.

歩行スピードとかを観察してみたり

Trying to observe walking speed, for example.

注目してみたりすることで

By trying to pay attention to it.

身の回りの人のメンタルチェック

Mental check of the people around you.

っていうのも行うことができるってことなんですよ

What that means is that it can be done.

なのであんまりね

So not too much, you know.

よく心理学だと目の動きとか

In psychology, it's often said that eye movements...

表情とか手の動き動作っていうところを

The expressions and hand movements.

よく取り上げるんですけども

I often mention it, but...

この歩く歩幅と

This walking stride and

スピードっていうのも

It's about speed, too.

ぜひちょっと取り入れてみていただいて

I hope you can try incorporating it a little.

特に身近な大切な人のメンタルを元気に保つ

Keeping the mental wellbeing of important people close to you healthy.

一つの指標というか

It's a kind of indicator.

ヒントにしていただくといいんじゃないかな

I think it would be good to use it as a hint.

っていうことで

That being said.

今日ご紹介させていただきました

Today, I would like to introduce you to.

はい

Yes

なかなかでも今デスクワークが多いから

It's quite the case, but I'm doing a lot of desk work right now.

あれですね

That's right.

気にして見るのも

It's also worth paying attention to.

なかなかタイミングが合わない人がいるかもしれないですね

There might be some people whose timing just doesn't align.

まあそうですね

Well, that's true.

だから一緒にちょっとランチに行く時とか

So when we go out for lunch together sometimes...

何かお出かけする時とかもそうかもしれないですしね

It might be the same when going out somewhere as well.

はい

Yes

はい確かにそれは

Yes, that is certainly true.

まあでも車内でもさかさか歩いてる人と

Well, there are people walking quickly inside the car too.

とぼとぼ歩いてる人っていうのは

A person who is walking slowly and wearily.

もしかしたらちょっと

Maybe just a little.

よく観察して

Observe closely.

意識的に観察をしてみると

When you consciously try to observe...

違いは分かるかもしれないですね

You might be able to tell the difference.

人によってね

It depends on the person.

でもちろんなか例えば腰が痛いとか

"But of course, for example, if you have back pain."

そもそもやっぱり健康にどこか不安がある方だと

In the first place, if someone has some anxiety about their health...

さかさかやっぱり歩けないから

I still can't walk because I'm upside down.

でもし何か健康に不安があるってことは

But if there are any concerns about health...

やっぱりメンタルも

After all, it's also about mental health.

何もその健康の不安がない人よりは

More than someone who has no health concerns at all.

どうしてもストレスはかかってるわけじゃないですか

Isn't it that stress is inevitably present?

はい

Yes

っていうことはやっぱりこう

That means, after all, like this.

爽快に大股で早歩きが

Walking briskly with a refreshing stride.

そもそも

In the first place.

できるっていうこと自体が

The very fact that you can do it.

健康である

To be healthy.

心も体も健康であるっていう

Being healthy in both mind and body.

証明にもなるのかもしれないですよね

It might serve as proof, right?

そうですね

That's right.

はい

Yes

なんかやっぱりこう

It feels like, after all, this...

さっき姿勢っていう話もしたんですけど

Earlier, I was talking about posture.

はい

Yes

その呼吸を深くするとか

Breathe deeply.

姿勢を良くするとか

Improving posture.

体を動かすっていうところから

Starting from moving the body.

意識して始めると

When you start consciously,

ちょっと気持ちも逆に

Feeling a little the opposite way.

体からこう

From the body like this

なんていうんだっけ

What do you call it again?

いい巡りになる

It will be a good turn.

みたいな感じがあって

It has a kind of feeling like that.

その落ち込んでたものが少しこう

That thing that was getting me down is a little bit like this.

元に戻るようなことが

Something that seems to return to the original state.

そうですね

That's right.

あるかもしれないですよね

It might exist, you know.

あると思います

I think there is.

よくNLPとかねでも言われますけど

It's often said in NLP and so on, but...

形逆にその形から入ることで

By entering from that shape in reverse.

メンタルに影響を与える

Influence on mental health

例えば上を向きながらなかなか

For example, while looking up, it's quite difficult.

暗いことが考えづらい

It's hard to think of something dark.

そうですね

That's right.

ありますよね

There is, isn't there?

それこそ前もちょっと

That’s exactly what I mentioned earlier.

ご紹介したかもしれないですけど

I might have introduced it to you already.

テニスプレーヤーの松岡修造さんとかは

Tennis player Shuuzo Matsuoka and others like him

もともとご自分は割とメンタルが

Originally, you have a relatively strong mental state.

弱いとか

Weak or something like that.

ちょっとマイナス思考だっていう

They say I'm a little negative-minded.

自覚を持っていらして

Be aware of it.

だからこそあえて大きな声出したりとか

That's why I intentionally raise my voice.

ポジティブな言葉を

Positive words

やたら連発したりとか

Like repeatedly doing something excessively.

っていうのをやってたっていう風に

It was like I was doing that.

おっしゃってたので

Because you mentioned it.

なるほど

I see.

なのであえて大幅

So intentionally significant.

大股で

With big strides.

早歩きを

Brisk walking

意識的にやっぱりやってみるっていうのは

Consciously trying it after all is...

完全な相関性が今まだ

There is still complete correlation now.

実証されてるわけではないですけど

It's not proven, but...

でも健康効果があると

But it has health benefits.

っていうのはまず間違いがないし

That's definitely not a mistake.

それでストレス解消にもなるっていうのも

So it's also a way to relieve stress.

データとしては出てるので

It has been released as data.

結果的にね

As a result, you know.

メンタルの健康につながるっていうのは

It connects to mental health.

十分期待できると思いますよね

I think it's definitely something to look forward to.

そうですね

That's right.

だからやっぱりそれも習慣というか

So I guess that's also a habit.

結局自己催眠というか

In the end, it's like self-hypnosis.

トレーニングですよね

It's training, right?

そういう部分も

That part as well.

だからそういうのを意識的に

So consciously being aware of that.

記録するのもいいかもしれないですね

It might be a good idea to keep a record.

こうなった時にこうすると

When this happens, do this.

こういう風にして改善できたとか

"For example, how this was improved."

っていう

That's what I'm saying.

やっぱりレコーディングをすると

As expected, when I do the recording…

それが刷り込まれるから

Because it gets ingrained.

気持ちの

Feelings

安定的にいい状態を保つために

To maintain a stable good condition.

そういうような

Such a way

習慣を取り入れて

Incorporate habits.

なおかつどう変化したかとかっていうのを

Furthermore, how did it change?

記録するのもいいかもしれないですよね

It might be a good idea to keep a record.

そうですね

That's right.

特に歩くっていうことであれば

Especially if we're talking about walking.

お金もかかりませんし

It doesn't cost any money.

毎日少なからず行う動作ではあるので

It's an action that is performed to some extent every day.

そこを意識的に行ってみるっていうのは

Consciously trying to go there is...

いいんじゃないかなっていう風に思います

I think it's probably fine.

だって今いろんなアプリがありますからね

Well, there are various apps available now.

歩くだけでポイントが貯まるようなアプリとかも

An app that allows you to earn points just by walking.

確かありますよね

I'm sure there is.

ありますね

It exists, doesn't it?

私も入れてて

"Let me in too."

ただ恐ろしく

Just terrifying.

なんていうんですかね

What should I say?

桁が大きく設定されてるんですけど

The digits are set quite high.

例えば10万ポイントって言っても

For example, even if I say 100,000 points...

10円とかそんなだから

It's just like 10 yen or something like that.

すごい本当にそれで

That's amazing, really.

お金を貯めようと思ったら

If you think about saving money,

何重に歩かなきゃいけないのかみたいな感じには

It feels like I have to walk multiple times.

なってるんですけど

It's happening, though.

まあでもね

Well, you know...

それでも何もないよりは

Still, it's better than having nothing.

そうですね

That's right.

架空のポイントというか

It's like a fictional point.

実際それは監禁できたりするんですけど

In fact, it can be something that can confine you.

実際のその実世界のね

In reality, that real world.

お金の桁とはもう全然違ったとしても

Even if it's completely different from the scale of money.

でもなんとなくこう筋が積み重ねていくことによって

"But somehow, by layering these lines..."

楽しみゲーム感覚でね

Looking forward to it in a game-like way!

ちょっともうちょっと歩こうかなとか

I was thinking of walking a little more.

移動してみようかなっていう風な

I’m thinking of trying to move.

モチベーションになることは感じてるんですよ

I can feel that it's motivating.

なのでそういうちょっとね

So, that's a bit like that.

ただ歩くだけではなくて

It's not just about walking.

いろんなアプリが出ているので

There are various apps available.

そういうのも取り入れてみていただくのも

I would appreciate it if you could consider incorporating something like that.

いいかもしれないですね

It might be good.

そうですね

That's right.

はいということで今日はですね

Yes, so today...

メンタルの不調は歩くスピードや歩幅を見ればわかる

Mental discomfort can be understood by observing walking speed and stride length.

ということについてお伝えをしましたので

I have conveyed this information to you.

ぜひこの機会に自分の歩くスピードや歩幅や

Definitely take this opportunity to evaluate your walking speed and stride length.

自分の身の回りの人の歩くスピードや歩幅

The walking speed and stride length of the people around me.

っていうものに注目をしてもらって

Please pay attention to what is being said.

メンタルの健康だったり

Mental health.

それから体の健康っていうものに

Then, regarding health of the body...

つなげてもらえたらいいんじゃないかなっていう風に思います

I think it would be nice if we could connect.

はい

Yes

まだまだね寒い日が続いてますので

It's still cold, and the chilly days continue.

大股で歩いて

Walk with big steps.

風邪をひかないように

Take care not to catch a cold.

元気に過ごしていただきたいと思います

I hope you are doing well.

はい

Yes

毎回お伝えしていますが何かね

I mention this every time, but you know...

ご感想とかご質問とか何でもいいのであれば

If you have any feedback or questions, anything is fine.

ぜひ

Certainly.

ぜひインスタグラム公式LINEもしくは

Please follow the official Instagram LINE as well.

YouTubeなどでコメントいただけると嬉しいです

I would be happy if you could leave comments on YouTube or other platforms.

はい

Yes

はいでは次回も元気でお会いしましょう

Yes, then let's meet again next time in good spirits.

はい

Yes

ありがとうございました

Thank you very much.