5/21(火)「過去最高益の社長たち、円安に悩む」

ニュース真剣勝負

Serious News Battle

時刻は間もなく8時5分です

The time is just about 8:05.

元産経新聞編集長の安本俊久さんに

To Mr. Toshihisa Yasunobu, the former editor-in-chief of Sankei Shimbun.

気になるニュースに切り込んで解説していただきます

I will dive into the news that concerns me and provide an explanation.

スタジオに来てくださいました

You came to the studio.

安本さんおはようございます

Good morning, Yasumoto-san.

よろしくお願いいたします

Thank you in advance.

今朝のテーマは

The theme for this morning is

過去最高益の社長たち円安に悩むということでお話しいただきます

"The presidents with record-high profits will talk about their struggles with the weak yen."

今5月ですよね

It's May now, isn't it?

5月というのは上場企業の3月期決算が出そろって

May is when the financial results for companies with a fiscal year ending in March are announced.

いよいよ6月の株主総会に備えると

Finally, prepare for the shareholders' meeting in June.

こういう季節なんですね

It's that kind of season, isn't it?

今年も10日をピークにして

This year will peak on the 10th as well.

主要企業の数字がほぼ出そろったので

Since the figures for the major companies have nearly all been released,

今朝はこの話題をしようと思います

This morning, I would like to talk about this topic.

今年の傾向は結論から言うと

To conclude this year's trend...

上場企業の最高利益合計が

The total maximum profit of listed companies is

3年連続で過去最高更新層だと

It's the highest update layer for three consecutive years.

わー

Wow!

景気がいいんですね

The economy is doing well, isn't it?

大企業は儲かってるんですね

Large companies are making a profit, aren't they?

理由は3つありまして

There are three reasons.

1つは値上げが成功したことと

One is that the price increase was successful.

そしてもう1つはコロナが終わったので

And one more thing is that the coronavirus is over.

経済活動が再開されて追い風になっているということと

The fact that economic activities have resumed and are becoming a tailwind.

そして円安なんですよ円安

And it's the depreciation of the yen, the depreciation of the yen.

今日特に注目したのはこの3つ目の理由の円安ということになります

Today, what I particularly focused on was the third reason, which is the depreciation of the yen.

その影響をですね

That influence, you know.

具体例で分かりやすくするために

To make it easier to understand with specific examples.

トヨタ自動車の決算で見てみようと思います

I think I'll take a look at Toyota Motor's financial results.

はい

Yes

トヨタの3月決算は

Toyota's March financial results are

売上高は45兆円でした

The sales amount was 45 trillion yen.

うわー

Wow!

日本の国家予算の3分の1以上あります

It accounts for more than a third of Japan's national budget.

そうですね

That's right.

はい

Yes

利益4兆9千億円でした

The profit was 4.9 trillion yen.

利益だけ

Only profit.

利益だけです

It's just profit.

とんでもない数字ですよね

That's an outrageous number, isn't it?

でこの数字に貢献したのは

"What contributed to this number is"

なんといっても海外販売なんですね

Above all, it's about overseas sales.

はい

Yes

トヨタ自動車は昨年大体国内外で

Toyota Motor Corporation had approximately worldwide last year.

1千万台ぐらいで

Around 10 million units.

1千万台ぐらいの車を製造してるんですが

We are manufacturing about 10 million cars.

その85%

That 85%

877万9千台は海外で作って売ってるんですよ

8,779,000 units are being manufactured and sold overseas.

85%にも上がるんですね

It can rise to 85%.

もう国内で売ってる車はもう15%ほどだということですね

It seems that only about 15% of the cars sold in the country are already available.

でこの車商品ということになりますが

So this will be considered a product of this car.

平均15%の値上げを実施したんですが

We implemented an average price increase of 15%.

これがよく売れたんです

This sold really well.

なぜならば

Because

欧米を中心として今電気自動車が売れなくなってまして

Currently, electric vehicles are not selling well, particularly in Europe and America.

ハイブリッド車が見直されてるんですね

Hybrid cars are being reexamined, aren't they?

みんな気がついたんです

Everyone noticed.

気がついたんです

I realized.

トヨタのハイブリッドの方がええやんかと

The Toyota hybrid is better, right?

燃費もいいし結局は安上がりだということで

It's economical, so in the end, it's cheaper.

そのためにですね

For that reason.

このハイブリッド車が

This hybrid car

過去最高の359万4千台

A record high of 3,594,000 units.

うわー過去最高ですか

Wow, is this the best ever?

過去最高売れたんですね

It's the highest sales ever, isn't it?

まずこれで売り上げと利益が伸びたんですが

First, this has led to an increase in sales and profits.

そこに円安効果が加わったんですね

The effect of the weak yen was added there, huh?

トヨタの場合1円円安が進むと

In the case of Toyota, if the yen weakens by 1 yen...

利益が500億円増える

Profits will increase by 50 billion yen.

たった1円で500億円ですか

Is it really 50 billion yen for just 1 yen?

たった1円で500億円ですね

It's just 1 yen for 50 billion yen, isn't it?

2023年度の平均為替レートは

The average exchange rate for the 2023 fiscal year is

だいたい1ドル145円だったんです

It was roughly 145 yen to 1 dollar.

これでも2023年度よりも10円円安が進んでいたので

Even so, the yen has depreciated by 10 yen compared to the fiscal year 2023.

これだけで営業利益は6850億円増えた

This alone increased the operating profit by 685 billion yen.

すごいですよね

It's amazing, isn't it?

今年度は1ドル155円とか160円とか言ってます

This year, they are saying it's 155 yen or 160 yen per dollar.

本年度どれぐらい儲かるのかなと

I wonder how much profit we will make this year.

人の懐具合になるのかなと

I wonder if it depends on people's financial situations.

気になるところですが

It's a point of concern, but...

それぐらい円安というのは

That’s how much the yen has depreciated.

トヨタにとっては売り上げ増

For Toyota, it's an increase in sales.

そして利益増になっているんですね

So it is increasing profits.

なぜそういう構造になるのか

Why does it have to be structured like that?

そこも見ていきましょう

Let's take a look at that as well.

まず国内で生産した場合は

First, when produced domestically,

円で価格設定はされるわけですね

The pricing is set in yen, isn’t it?

これを輸出する場合は

In the case of exporting this,

ドル換算して売るので

Because it will be sold in dollar conversion.

円安ドル高だと

With the yen weak and the dollar strong,

割合は

The ratio is

円安感が出るんですね

It seems like there is a sense of depreciation of the yen.

ドルで売るときには結構安いですね

It's quite cheap when sold in dollars, isn't it?

という感じになるので

It will feel like that.

これで輸出が伸びるというのが

This is expected to lead to an increase in exports.

そもそも輸出にはある構造なんですね

In the first place, there is a certain structure to exports, isn't there?

ただ現在トヨタの主力は

However, Toyota's main focus right now is

海外生産現地生産ですから

Because it is produced overseas.

このメリットは少なくて

This advantage is minimal.

大きかったのは

It was big.

海外で生産販売した車の売り上げを

Sales of cars produced and sold overseas

今度円に変えて日本の本社

This time, I'll change it to yen and send it to the Japanese headquarters.

ホーディングスということになりますけど

It will be called holdings, but...

そこに送ってくるときに

When you send it there

たくさんの円になるわけですよ

It will become a lot of circles.

ドルで売った方が

It's better to sell in dollars.

このために売上も利益も膨らむという

"This will lead to an increase in both sales and profits."

こういう構造になっているということですね

This means that it has such a structure.

ここまではいいような話なんですが

It sounds like a good story up to this point, but...

じゃあいざこの利益を経費として使おうとか

Well, then let's go ahead and use this profit as an expense.

あるいは海外に投資しようとするときには

Or when trying to invest overseas.

またドルに変えなきゃいけないですね

I guess I have to convert it back to dollars again.

そうするとドルの方が高いわけですから

In that case, it means the dollar is higher.

たくさん円持っていても

Even if you have a lot of yen

あんまりドルとしては変わらなかったなということで

It didn't really change much as a dollar.

今度はそこではデメリットになるわけですよ

This time, it will become a disadvantage there.

デメリットになる

It will become a disadvantage.

ですから円安が必ずしもいいことではないということなんですね

So, what this means is that a weak yen is not necessarily a good thing.

このあたりを今のいろんな分野の社長さんたちは気がついていまして

The CEOs in various fields around here are noticing this now.

決算発表というに必ず社長会見というのがあるんですが

Whenever there is a financial report announcement, there is always a president's press conference.

その言葉をちょっと拾ってみたら非常に面白い傾向が出たので

When I picked up on that word a bit, I noticed a very interesting trend.

今日その話させてもらおうと思います

I would like to talk about that today.

まず三菱電機の漆間会長さん

First, Chairman Uruma of Mitsubishi Electric.

ここは円安で最高最終利益が

Here, the maximum final profit is due to the weak yen.

前の年よりも33%増えているんですが

It's increased by 33% compared to the previous year.

こういうことを言っておられます

You are saying things like this.

海外からの部品調達が増えて

The procurement of parts from overseas has increased.

円安が良いとは考えていない

I do not think that the weak yen is good.

海外から買うときに高くついているわけですよ

That's why it ends up being expensive when you buy it from overseas.

ですから円安はメリットばかりじゃないよということを言っておられます

Therefore, they are saying that the depreciation of the yen is not just advantageous.

それからパンソニックホーディングスの宮部副社長さん

Then, Vice President Miyabe of Panasonic Holdings.

この方は関西経済同意会の代表幹事されているんですけども

This person is the representative secretary of the Kansai Economic Federation.

昭和の時代は円安は大歓迎だった

In the Showa era, a weak yen was greatly welcomed.

この10万円の円安は大歓迎だったんですよ

This 100,000 yen depreciation was very welcome.

この10年で必ずしもプラスではなくなってきた

In the past ten years, it has not necessarily been a plus.

円安プラスじゃないよという認識なんですね

It's not just about the weak yen, that's the understanding, isn't it?

円安で業績低下した企業のトップからは

From the leaders of companies that saw a decline in performance due to the weak yen.

当然ながら円安への恨み節みたいなものが見えています

Naturally, there seems to be a hint of resentment towards the weak yen.

三菱商事の中西社長さん

President Nakai of Mitsubishi Corporation.

ここは最終利益がマイナス18%だったんですが

Here, the final profit was minus 18%.

円安はボディーブローのように効いてくる

The weak yen hits like a body blow.

海外投資をする場合

When making overseas investments

買収額が上がって投資を慎重にせざるを得ない

The acquisition amount has increased, forcing us to be cautious in our investments.

はい

Yes

それからエステの光月社長さん

Then, President Kōzuki of the esthetic salon.

ここは利益がマイナス30%

Here, the profit is minus 30%.

円安の影響を丸に受けたんですが

We were greatly affected by the yen's depreciation.

値上げは実施したんだが

We have implemented a price increase, but...

原材料の高騰や為替の影響が想定以上だった

The rise in raw material prices and the impact of exchange rates were greater than expected.

弊社の場合1円の円安で利益が1000万円以上マイナスになってしまう

In our case, a decline of 1 yen in the yen's value results in a loss of over 10 million yen in profits.

円安でも結構厳しいよと

It's quite tough even with the weak yen.

こういうことを言う社長さんが増えてきてるんですね

It seems that there are more and more company presidents saying things like this.

でこの中で僕特に注目してるのは

Among these, what I'm particularly interested in is...

宮部さんの円安歓迎は昭和のこと

Mr. Miyabe's welcome of the yen's depreciation dates back to the Showa era.

こういう談話が非常に興味深かったんですね

I found this kind of discussion非常に interesting.

ちょっと昔話させてもらいますが

Let me tell you a little story from the past.

昭和60年1985年に僕は社会部の1年生だったんですが

In 1985, during the Showa 60 year, I was a first-year student in the social department.

その頃にプラザ合意というのがあって

At that time, there was the Plaza Accord.

円高が急激に進んだんですよ

The yen has suddenly appreciated significantly.

でその時に上司から指示されたのは

At that time, what was instructed by my boss was...

東大阪とか堺の町工場をめぐって

Touring the town factories of Higashi-Osaka and Sakai.

社長たちの談話を取ってこいと

"Go and get the executives' statements."

そうすると円高で

In that case, the yen will strengthen.

円高が急激に進んだんですよ

The yen has appreciated rapidly.

円高の輸出がこれから伸びなくなって大変だという

They say that exports are going to struggle because of the strong yen.

嘆きの声が集まるに違いないと

Surely the voices of lament will gather.

こういう指示を受けたんですね

You received instructions like this, didn't you?

で実際に行ってみると

When you actually go and try it,

そういう嘆きというか悲鳴のような声ばっかりでした

It was mostly just voices that sounded like such lamentations or cries.

もう集めるというよりも

Rather than collecting anymore,

聞きに行ったらすぐ愚痴が出てくると

As soon as I went to listen, the complaints started pouring out.

こういうことなんですね

This is what it is, isn't it?

その時に思ったのは

What I thought at that time was

日本ってのはやっぱり円高になると輸出が伸びなくて

In Japan, when the yen becomes stronger, exports do not grow.

それだと日本経済は回らないんだなという

That won't keep the Japanese economy moving.

実感だったんですよ

I really felt it.

日本は加工貿易で食ってるわけですから

Japan relies on processed trade for its livelihood.

輸出が伸びないともう経済自体がダメになると

If exports don't grow, the economy itself will be done for.

そういうことが町工場の社長さんレベルまで浸透していて

Such things have permeated even down to the level of small factory owners.

日本にとっては円高はバッと

For Japan, a strong yen is suddenly...

円安こそがいいんだと

It is the depreciation of the yen that is good.

こういう価値観だったんですね

I see, that was the kind of value system you had.

でも思えばその時に違う方向で取材をしていれば

But when I think about it, if I had conducted the interview in a different direction at that time...

円高って結構いいよという人もいたはずなんですよ

There should have been people saying that a strong yen is actually quite good.

例えば輸入品は安く買えるわけですから

For example, imported goods can be bought cheaply.

今までなかなか手が出なかった

I hadn't been able to get my hands on it until now.

当時ですとジョニー・クローとかね

At that time, there was Johnny Crow and so on.

そういったものが結構安く買えるようになりましたねとか

Things like that have become quite inexpensive to buy.

ブランド品も安く買えるようになりましたねとか

"You can now buy brand-name products at a low price."

そういう声も実はあったはずなんですね

There must have been voices like that as well.

そういう現象も起きているはずですから

Such phenomena must also be occurring.

そこのところにはメディアも全然目に行かなかったし

The media didn't pay any attention to that at all.

日本全体も円安いいんだよ円高だから悪いんだという声で

The voices say that the entire Japan benefits from the weak yen, and it's the strong yen that is bad.

蔓延してたんですね

It was spreading, wasn't it?

それが昭和だったと思います

I think that was the Shōwa era.

その声がようやく変わってきて

That voice has finally started to change.

円安の方が悪いんじゃないかという声が出てきたということは

The emergence of voices suggesting that the weak yen might be to blame is significant.

日本の経済に対する考え方

Perspectives on the Japanese economy.

日本人のと言ったらいいと思いますけども

I think it's better to say that it's a Japanese thing.

そこは結構変わってきて

It has changed quite a bit.

グローバルに見られるようになった

It has become globally recognized.

あるいは不もあるいは正の方も

Either negative or positive as well.

どちらも平等に見られるように

So that both are seen equally.

日本人の視野が広がってきたなという気がするんですね

I feel that the perspective of Japanese people has broadened.

ここは非常にいいことだと思います

I think this is a very good thing.

その中でもこういう声も出てきているので

Among them, there are also voices like this.

これも紹介しておこうと思います

I thought I would introduce this as well.

経団連の徳良会長

Keidanren Chairman Tokura

住友科学の会長さんですけども

He is the chairman of Sumitomo Chemical.

日本経済を強くすることで円の評価を高め

By strengthening the Japanese economy, we will enhance the value of the yen.

円高を是正することが望ましい

It is desirable to correct the strong yen.

円安を是正することが望ましいですね

It would be desirable to correct the depreciation of the yen.

こういうことをおっしゃっているんです

This is what you are saying.

それからNECの森田社長さん

Then, Mr. Morita, the president of NEC

これほどの円安は顧客や日本の国力を危険にすることが望ましいです

Such a depreciation of the yen is undesirable as it puts customers and Japan's national strength in danger.

異常な事態だ

It's an abnormal situation.

ですからここで注目したいのは

Therefore, what I want to highlight here is

経済を強くして円の評価を高めて円高にする方がいいと

It is better to strengthen the economy and raise the value of the yen, leading to a stronger yen.

円高にする方がいいと

It's better to have a strong yen.

こういう考えが出てきているわけですね

This kind of thought has come up, hasn't it?

ここで注目したいのは

What I want to draw attention to here is

通貨が安い高いというのは

The value of currency being low or high means that

その国の経済状況を示していて

It indicates the economic situation of that country.

経済が強ければその通貨が高くなって

If the economy is strong, the currency will appreciate.

それが当然だという考え方が

The idea that it is only natural.

こういうのが出てきているわけです

This kind of thing is coming up.

僕はかなり日本という国が成長したんだなという気がします

I feel that Japan has grown quite a bit.

そういったことが今回出てきたので

Since such things have come up this time.

僕は令和になって日本というのは

Since the beginning of the Reiwa era, Japan has...

結構これから期待できるんじゃないかなと

I think this could be quite promising from now on.

社長さんたちがそういう意識になってくだされば

If the company presidents could become aware of that.

これからの国の政策だって

Policies of the country moving forward.

円高に振るように持っていけるわけですよね

You can manipulate it to favor a stronger yen, right?

円高になると海外のものが安く買えるわけですから

When the yen strengthens, it means that overseas goods can be bought more cheaply.

僕たちの生活の面で

In terms of our daily lives.

非常に楽になるし

It will become much easier.

海外旅行も行きやすい

It's easy to travel abroad.

それから物価高も沈まってくるということですから

And then it is said that the rising prices will also calm down.

生活者の観点から見ると

From the perspective of a living person.

これ非常にいいことだということなんですね

This means that this is a very good thing.

今までは生産者の観点ばかりで

Until now, I have only considered the perspective of the producers.

日本の経済を動かそう

Let's drive the Japanese economy.

引っ張ろうとしていたので

I was trying to pull (it).

どうしても生活者の声というのが

The voice of the people living their lives is absolutely necessary.

届かなかったと思うんですね

I think it didn't reach.

これからはそういう声を反映した

From now on, I have reflected those voices.

政策を取ってくれやすい国になるのではないかな

I think it will become a country that is easier to adopt policies.

という気がします

I feel that way.

今日提案したいのは2つあるんですけど

I have two suggestions I would like to propose today.

1つは円安円高という表現もやめましょうよと

Let's also stop using the expressions of yen depreciation and appreciation.

円が強い

The yen is strong.

円が安い

The yen is weak.

こうすると円高というのは円が強いということですから

In this way, a stronger yen means that the yen is strong.

円が強いと言われると

When it is said that the yen is strong,

日本強いんだと思って

I think Japan is strong.

プラスに思えるじゃないですか

Isn't it something positive?

確かにそうですね

That's certainly true.

円の価値が高いんだと

The value of the yen is high.

高い安いだとね

It's about whether something is expensive or cheap.

なんとなくどっちがいいのか分からないじゃないですか

I don't really know which one is better, do I?

物が高いんだったらやっぱり安い方がいいのかな

If things are expensive, I guess it's better to go for the cheaper option.

ということになるので

So it will be.

やっぱり強い弱いと言うと

When it comes to talking about being strong or weak, after all,

一目瞭然ですから

It's obvious at a glance.

弱いより強い方がいいでしょうと

It's better to be stronger than weaker, right?

こういう考え方になるので

This way of thinking emerges.

そこの表現から

From that expression.

メディアから変えたらいいと思いますね

I think it would be good to change it from the media.

確かにね

That's for sure.

円高円安って言われても

Even if they say it's a strong yen or a weak yen...

どっちが高いのかが分かりにくいというのは

It's hard to tell which one is higher.

どっちがいいか分からないですもんね

I don't know which is better.

強い弱いだったら強いのがいいに決まってるわけですから

If it's a choice between strong and weak, then it’s obviously better to be strong.

こういう表記をしたいと思います

I would like to make this kind of notation.

実は海外ではそう言うんですよ

Actually, they say that abroad.

そう言ってるんですか

Are you saying that?

ドルが高いということを

The dollar is high.

ストロングダラーと言うんですね

It's called a strong dollar, isn't it?

ドルが君は強いよという言い方をするんですよ

The dollar says that you are strong.

ですからそれを

Therefore, that.

そのままね翻訳すればよかったのに

You should have just translated it as it is.

日本中の翻訳にしてしまったので

I translated it to all over Japan.

高い安になって

It became expensive.

これが日本人の意識を

This is the Japanese people's consciousness.

結構縛ってきたなという気がするんですね

I feel like I’ve been tied up quite a bit.

ですからここの表現を

Therefore, the expression here...

一つ変えたらいいと思います

I think it would be good to change one thing.

それからもう一つ今日提案したいのは

And one more thing I would like to propose today is...

昭和の親父みたいなことを言ってる

You're saying something like an old Showa-era dad.

海外の政治家がいるんですよ

There are politicians from overseas.

どういうことですか

What does that mean?

トランプさん

Mr. Trump

はっはっは

Hahaha

トランプさんが

Mr. Trump

今昔ツイッターですから

It's because it's Twitter of the past and present.

Xで発信されている中で

Among the information being transmitted on X.

最近ニュースになったのは

What has recently been in the news is

ドル高を非常に怒ってはるんですね

It seems that you are very angry about the strong dollar.

ドル高円安怒ってはるんですね

You're angry about the strong dollar and weak yen, aren't you?

こんなドル高を放置しとけば

If we leave such a high dollar rate unattended,

アメリカの製造業がダメになると

When American manufacturing goes bad,

壊滅的被害を受けると

suffer catastrophic damage

こういう言い方してるんです

This is the way I am saying it.

昭和の日本と同じことを言ってるんですね

You're saying the same thing as in Showa-era Japan, aren't you?

ですからトランプさんの頭の中には

Therefore, in Trump's mind...

アメリカの製造業を強くしたいと

I want to strengthen American manufacturing.

強くするためには

To become stronger.

海外にどんどん商品が売れるような状況こそが望ましいんだ

A situation where products are selling more and more overseas is what we aspire to.

だからドル安の方がいいんだ

That's why a weaker dollar is better.

ドル高はダメなんだ

A strong dollar is not good.

こういう考え方なんですね

This is what that way of thinking is like.

僕そのツイッターX読んだ時に

When I read that Twitter X

あ、昭和の経営者と同じだ

Ah, they're just like the managers from the Showa era.

はぁ

Hah.

それが

That is it.

その人がこれからモシトラだと

That person will become Moshi Tora from now on.

大統領になるかもしれないわけですよ

You might become the president.

となると

That being the case,

ドル安路線の政治

Politics of a weak dollar policy

政策を取ってくると思います

I think they will adopt a policy.

そういうトランプさんに対峙する

Confronting someone like Trump.

これから僕たちは日本の政権を持たなきゃいけないですね

From now on, we have to have a government in Japan, right?

11月にアメリカの大統領選があるわけですから

There is a presidential election in the United States in November.

来年からはもしかしたらトランプ大統領は

Starting next year, President Trump might...

アメリカの代表かもしれない

It may be a representative of the United States.

その人と誰が交渉役になるのか

Who will be the negotiator with that person?

これはちょっと研究を深いかもしれませんけど

This may require a bit of deeper research.

日本の総理大臣その時誰でしょうね

I wonder who the Prime Minister of Japan is at that time.

ということをちょっと考えておかなきゃいけないと思いますね

I think we need to consider that a little bit.

まあ前は安倍さんでしたので

Well, before it was Abe-san.

なんとかトランプさんもなだめながら

Somehow, while soothing Mr. Trump...

コントロールしてくれましたけども

They controlled it for me, though.

今度そんな人

Next time, such a person.

自民党民主党立憲民主党にいるのかな

I wonder if they are in the Liberal Democratic Party, the Democratic Party, or the Constitutional Democratic Party.

という気がしますよね

I feel that way, don't you?

この観点もぜひ秋に向けて

This perspective should definitely be considered for autumn.

いつも頭の中に置いといてもらいたいなと思いますね

I hope you always keep it in your mind.

この今の円安の状態っていうのは

The current state of the yen depreciation is...

いつ頃まで続くんでしょうね

I wonder how long this will continue.

まあ一般的に言われてるのは

Well, generally speaking, it is said that...

アメリカがその利率を下げない限り

Unless America lowers its interest rates.

高いのでみんなドル買うわけですよね

It's expensive, so everyone is buying dollars, right?

これが一番の大きな理由になっていると言われますので

It is said that this is the biggest reason.

まあ連邦制度理事会が利下げをするときまでは

Well, until the Federal Reserve Board decides to lower interest rates.

円安のこの圧力がずっとかかり続けている

The pressure of the weak yen continues to persist.

その中で経済の勝ち取りしなきゃいけない

We must win in the economy among those.

という状況が続くと思いますね

I think that situation will continue.

なんとかこの円安のメリットも最大化しながら

While somehow maximizing the benefits of this weak yen.

対策もしつつという

While taking measures.

難しいところかもしれませんよね

It might be a difficult situation, right?

ですからね

So, you see.

ちょっとこれも研究不可になりますけど

"This will also become research impossible, but..."

今政治見るときに

"When I look at politics now"

いつも政治改革政治改革

Always political reform, political reform.

って言ってるわけですが

That's what I'm saying.

本当に大事なことは

What is truly important is

そういった経済の舵取りとか

Such steering of the economy and so on.

外交安保とか

Diplomatic security and so on.

それをしっかりする人かどうかというところがあって

Whether or not they are someone who can do that properly.

その次に僕は不倫さもあった方がいいですね

Next, I think it would be better if there was also an affair.

だとは思います

I think so.

不倫さばっかり言ってて

Always talking about infidelity.

無能な人がそういう役に就くと

When incompetent people take on such roles...

大変なことにそれこそなると思いますね

I think it will indeed become a serious matter.

白川の清き流れに

In the pure flow of Shirakawa

というのがありましたけれども

There was something like that, but...

僕は思っています

I am thinking.

さあ大統領が次どうなるのか

Well, what's going to happen to the president next?

そしてFRBの動きを

And the movements of the FRB.

中止していかなければならないということですね

It means that we must stop.

元産経新聞編集長の安本俊久さんにお話を伺いました

We spoke with Toshihisa Yasumoto, the former editor-in-chief of Sankei Shimbun.

安本さんありがとうございました

Thank you, Yasumoto-san.