129.佐々木修宏さん （佐々木工業 代表）

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行くよの 人生の天気はチャンス

The weather of life for those who go is opportunity.

人生の天気はチャンスこの番組はゲストさんの人生を自らの口で語っていただき ご自身の人生の振り返りや人生観などを探っていく番組です

The weather of life is opportunity. This program invites guests to speak about their lives in their own words, exploring reflections on their life and their perspectives on life.

本日のゲストは牧野原市大寿 佐々木工業代表佐々木修子さんです

Today's guest is Ms. Shuuko Sasaki, the representative of Sasaki Industries in Ooji, Makinohara City.

修子さんこんにちはこんにちはよろしくお願いしますよろしくお願い致しますようこそ それでは修子さんから簡単に自己紹介をお願いします

Hello Shuuko, nice to meet you. Welcome! Now, could you please introduce yourself briefly?

はい佐々木工業代表の佐々木修子と申します 仕事は外交工事を設計施工

Yes, I am Shuko Sasaki, the representative of Sasaki Industry. My work involves designing and constructing diplomatic projects.

エクステリア工事土木工事 動園工事と家の周りの仕事を

Exterior construction, civil engineering, landscaping work, and work around the house.

中心に牧野原市をメインに西は浜松から東は静岡 富士とかまではい仕事させていただいております

The main area is centered around Makinohara City, and I am working from the west in Hamamatsu to the east in Shizuoka and even up to Fujisan.

なるほどありがとうございます 静岡県を中心に県西部中部地区を中心にそういった外交として家の周りのことをやって

I see, thank you. Focusing on Shizuoka Prefecture, particularly the western and central regions, we are engaging in activities around homes as part of such diplomacy.

らっしゃるお仕事で間違いないですかねはいそうです はいこのえっとその外交をやるようになったのは何年ぐらい前でまた

Is it correct to say that it's related to your work? Yes, that's right. So, about how many years ago did you start engaging in diplomacy?

はいそうですはいこのえっとその外交をやるようになったのは何年ぐらい前でまたその

Yes, that's right. So, about how many years ago did you start doing this diplomacy, and...

はいそうですはいこのえっとその外交をやるようになったのは何年ぐらい前でまたその キッカケって何だったんですか

Yes, that's right. So, about how many years ago did you start engaging in diplomacy, and what was the reason for that?

キッカケって何だったんですか

What was the trigger?

キッカケって何だったんですか 8外交工事を始めたのは8独立してからなんですよね

What was the trigger? The diplomatic construction started after independence, right?

8外交工事を始めたのは8独立してからなんですよね

The diplomatic construction actually began after gaining independence.

8外交工事を始めたのは8独立してからなんですよね その前までは道土木工事のあの一人親方の8親方のところでずっと修行させていただいて

The diplomatic construction began after gaining independence, right? Before that, I was training under the individual contractor of road construction.

その前までは道土木工事のあの一人親方の8親方のところでずっと修行させていただいて

Until then, I had been training under that one master, the eighth master of civil engineering.

独立を機に住宅の方に切り替えさせていただいて

Taking the opportunity of independence, I would like to switch to housing.

エクステリア工事をメインに

Mainly exterior construction.

外国工事をメインに変えました

I changed the main focus to foreign construction work.

なるほど

I see.

最初は土木工事をやっている中で

At first, while doing civil engineering work.

そこから転換したのはどうしてなんですか

What made you shift from there?

前職の時土木の時はちょっともたいものとか多くて

In my previous job in civil engineering, there were quite a few cumbersome things.

ヘルニアは狙ってしまって

I accidentally targeted a hernia.

ちょっと休業してた時期がありまして

I had a period of temporary closure.

復活するにあたって

Regarding the revival

家の周りの方がもたいものは少ないっていうのもありまして

There are fewer things to throw away around the house.

あと家の周りを変えていく

Next, I will change the area around the house.

景色を変えていくのがすごい楽しいなと思って

I think it's really fun to change the scenery.

直接お客様とやり取りするのが

Directly interacting with customers is

僕には合っているのかなと思って始めました

I started because I thought it might be a good fit for me.

なるほど

I see.

基礎だけじゃなくてやっぱり

Not just the basics, after all.

周りのことだからお客様と接することも多いから

Because I often interact with customers due to the surrounding circumstances.

そこも結構楽しいって思われたってことなんですね

So it seems that it was regarded as quite enjoyable as well.

そうですね

That's right.

はい

Yes

,でもそういったその家を作ることに関わることを

"But even so, being involved in creating that kind of home..."

お仕事にしようと思ったのはどうしてなんですか

What made you decide to make it your job?

えーっと

Um...

やっぱ直接お客様にありがとうとか言われたり

After all, being told "thank you" directly by the customers...

お客様がこういう家に住みたい

The customer wants to live in a house like this.

こういう空間で生活したいっていうのを実現した時に

When I realize the kind of space I want to live in,

すごいなんかお客様からありがとうとか

Wow, it's amazing to receive thank you messages from customers.

感謝されたり言われるのがなんかすごい嬉しくて

Being thanked or being told something makes me really happy.

それが

That.

やみつきになっちゃってずっと続けてる感じですね

It feels like I've become addicted and just can't stop.

なんかその現場に出るってこう大変なイメージとか

I have this image that being at the scene is quite difficult.

外でのお仕事とかって現場だから

Because it's a job outside, it's on site.

なんか暑かったりとか大変じゃないかなと思うんですけど

I think it might be tough with the heat and all.

その辺はどうなんですか

How is it around there?

いやーなんかここ数年のこの夏の暑さっていうのが異常で

Wow, the heat of this summer in the past few years has been abnormal.

毎日なんか最近熱中症気味なんで

I've been feeling a bit overheated and prone to heatstroke recently.

そうなんだやっぱりそうなりますよ

I see, that's how it is after all.

外何時間ぐらい出てるんですか

How many hours are you usually out for?

えーと現場出る時はもう朝8時から夕方5時ぐらいまで出てるんですけど

Well, when I leave for the site, I'm already out from around 8 AM to about 5 PM.

そうなんだやっぱりそうなりますよ外何時間ぐらい出てるんですか

I see, that's how it is. How many hours are you outside?

はい

Yes

炎天下でやってますね

You're doing it under the blazing sun, huh?

いやー今年の夏は特に辛いんじゃない

Wow, this summer is especially tough, isn't it?

もう異常ですね

It's already abnormal, isn't it?

やっぱ異常

It's definitely abnormal.

35度33度とかだとなんか涼しいなとか思っちゃうぐらいで

When it's around 35 to 33 degrees, I think it's kind of cool.

それもおかしいけど

That's strange too, but...

感覚がちょっとおかしい

My senses feel a bit strange.

なんか5年ぐらい10年ぐらい前ですかね

I guess it was about 5 or 10 years ago.

と全然違うんですね

It's completely different, isn't it?

やっぱそれは体感一番されてますよね

That really is something you feel the most, isn't it?

雇用仕事されてるから

Because I'm employed.

そうですね

That's right.

その後

After that

朝をしのぐために工夫してることとかあるんですか

Do you have any tips or tricks for getting through the morning?

最近あの空調服ってあのパンがついた服がありまして

Recently, there are those air-conditioned clothes with fans attached.

えー本当に扇風機がついてるやつ

Wow, it really has a fan on it.

あれを着るの

I'm going to wear that.

あれ着てまあなんとかって感じなんですけど

I'm wearing that, and it's sort of okay, I guess.

でも暑いと熱風しか来ないんですけどね

But when it's hot, only hot winds come, you know.

そっか

I see.

外の空気をやっぱりこう吸ってこう出してるから

Because I'm breathing in the outside air and then exhaling it.

風は来るけど暑いんだ

The wind is coming, but it's hot.

そうですそうです

That's right, that's right.

まあないよりあった方がって感じですね

Well, it's better to have it than not have it.

まあないよりあった方がって感じですかね

Well, it's more like it's better to have it than to not have it.

なるほどね

I see.

人を雇ってやってらっしゃるんですよね今は

You're currently hiring people, right?

そうですね今25歳と24歳の従業員が僕のそばで働いていて

Well, I have employees who are 25 and 24 years old working beside me.

今じゃあお二人と一緒に

Now, I'm together with both of you.

はい3人で今

Yes, now with three people.

3人で回っていらっしゃって

You are going around with three people.

お休みとかあります?

Do you have any days off?

休みは基本日曜日お休みさせていただいて

We will basically take Sundays off.

あと悪天候とか雨がひどいときとかはもうお休みさせていただいて

Also, when the weather is bad or when it's raining heavily, we will take a break.

あと悪天候とか雨がひどいときとかはもうお休みさせていただいてるんで

Also, when the weather is bad or when it's raining heavily, we take a break.

なるほど

I see.

いやでもこの仕事をやり始めばね人と関わるようになってそこがいいよって気づかれたってことですけど

Well, if you start doing this job, you get to interact with people, and that's when you realize it’s a good thing.

でもやっぱりやっていてよかったことっていうのはそこの部分ですか他に何かありますかこの外交の良さっていうのは

But still, is the part about what was good about doing it there, or is there something else? What are the merits of this diplomacy?

この部分ですか他に何かありますかこの外交の良さっていうのは

Is it this part, or is there something else? What's good about this diplomacy?

外交の良さはあるんですかね

Is there a benefit to diplomacy?

例えば石張りとか石積みとかたまにするときがあるんですけど

For example, there are times when I do things like stone paving or stone walling.

無心になってこうなんですかね取り組めるっていうか

I wonder if it's possible to engage in this by becoming free of thought.

なるほど

I see.

そうですね

That's right.

一つ一つこうやって地味にこうやっていく作業が

The process of doing each thing like this diligently.

そうですね

That's right.

性に合ってるのかもしれない

It might be suited to my nature.

昔からそういうところがあるんですか

Has it always been like that?

はい昔からそうですね

Yes, it's been that way since ancient times.

例えばどういうことがお好きでしたか

For example, what kind of things did you like?

なんですかね黙々と作業するのが好きだったのかもしれないですね

I might have liked quietly working on tasks.

形にしていく

Putting it into shape.

ちょっと言い表しづらいですけど

It's a little hard to express, but...

例えばプラモデルが得意だったとか

For example, I was good at model building, or plastic models.

プラモデルは小学校から好きでしたね

I have liked plastic models since elementary school.

やっぱり好きなんだ何か作っていくのがね

I really do like creating things, you know.

あと図工の授業とか

And also art class, etc.

やっぱり得意だった

I knew I was good at it after all.

得意だった?

Were you good at it?

得意まあ得意な方だったと思う

I think I was quite good at it.

嫌いではなかったですか

Did you not dislike it?

はいそうですね

Yes, that's right.

なんかじゃあ作り上げるのが好きだったんですね

I guess you liked creating things, huh?

はいそうですね

Yes, that's right.

子供の頃はどんなお子さんだったんですか

What kind of child were you when you were little?

子供の頃小学校の頃はすごい

When I was a child, during elementary school, it was amazing.

あの先生の言うことをよく聞く真面目な小学生でした

He was a serious elementary school student who listened well to what that teacher said.

そして?

And?

そして中学校の時にちょっと周りの流されやすい性格なんで

And during middle school, I had a somewhat easy-to-influence personality.

ちょっと周りのやんちゃな

A little mischievous around.

友達がいっぱいいたんで

Because I had a lot of friends.

その友達と一緒にちょっとやんちゃしてましたね

I was being a bit mischievous with that friend.

中学校ぐらいのやんちゃってどういうやんちゃですか

What kind of mischief is typical for middle school students?

バイク乗ったりとかそういうのですか

Is it something like riding a motorcycle?

中学校まぁそこちょっと乗った時もありましたし

I did ride there a bit during middle school.

やるよね

You're going to do it, right?

いろいろちょっと今じゃ言うとても言えないような

There are various things that are really difficult to say right now.

ようなやんちゃもした

I also got into mischief like that.

警察にお世話になったことはあるんですか

Have you ever been helped by the police?

ちょっとありますね

There is a little bit.

もう今の?

Is it already now?

あのねしゅうこさんからも想像もできないですかやっぱりそういう時がやっぱり男の子よく言うじゃないですか男の子だからあるよとかって私子供育ててよく言われるんですけど

You know, it’s hard to imagine coming from Shuuko-san, right? Boys often say things like that, don’t they? Because they’re boys, it’s something that happens. I hear this a lot while raising children.

そうですね多分みんな少なからずそういう時期があると思います

Well, I think everyone has those times to some extent.

そうですかそうですか壁に穴開けたとかそういうのは

I see, I see. So you mean things like making holes in the wall?

壁に穴開けたのはないですね

There is no hole in the wall.

それはないんだそこはない

That's not it, there isn't that.

でもそんなやんちゃ時代があってそれが高校まで高校時代はどうなるんですか

But with such a mischievous time, what will high school life be like?

高校時代は高校時代にやっぱ悪い先輩に調子乗ってたので

During high school, I got carried away with the bad seniors.

集団でボコボコされて

Beaten up by a group.

しゅうこさんがボコボコにされちゃった人なんですか

Is she the one who got beaten up?

それで

So, then.

そこから

From there

はい

Yes

暴力は良くないってことに気づいて不良も良くないってことに気づいて

Realizing that violence is not good and that being delinquent is not good either.

ちょっと真面目に生きようと思って

I think I'm going to try living a little more seriously.

痛い目にあってるんだいっぱいねそういう青春時代があって

I've had a lot of painful experiences, you know, during those青春 (youth) days.

もうここの世界から足を引こうみたいな

"It's like I'm trying to pull my feet away from this world."

そうですよ

That's right.

よくもう無理だなと思って

I often think it's really impossible now.

ちょっとちょっとそこは今思うと若気の至りみたいな感じ

Looking back on it now, that was just a youthful impulsiveness.

そうですね調子乗ってたのをちゃんと分からせてもらって

I see, I was made to realize that I was getting carried away.

良かったなと今思うと痛い目あったですけど

Looking back now, it was good, but I went through some painful experiences.

そうですね

That's right.

それでどうなっていくんですか

So, what will happen from here?

それでどうですかね高校は普通に卒業して

So how about that? I graduated from high school normally.

卒業もできたとそしてそこから

I was able to graduate, and from there...

卒業して一旦普通の工場に就職したんですけど

I graduated and temporarily got a job at a regular factory, but...

右から左にずっと流れてくる流れ作業をしてまして

I have been working on a flow operation where things continuously come from the right to the left.

ちょっと気がおかしくないとなって

"I'm starting to feel a little off."

3ヶ月ぐらいでちょっともう辞めちゃって

I think I'll quit in about three months.

でちょっといろいろフラフラして

I was wandering around a bit.

ニートみたいな感じで2、3ヶ月いたんですけど

I was like a NEET for about 2 or 3 months.

当時あまりニートって言葉なかったけど

At that time, the word "neet" wasn't common.

ニートしてた時もあったんだ

There was a time when I was a NEET.

それで興味深い

That's interesting.

でやっぱ周りから仕事しろ仕事つきなさいっていろんな人に言われて

"I've been told by various people around me to get a job and start working."

でちょうどその時たまたま自動車整備士の仕事紹介してくれるよって人がいて

At that moment, there happened to be someone who introduced me to a job as a car mechanic.

で地元の佐賀良自動車修理株式会社ってとこに

I went to a local company called Saga Good Auto Repair.

就職することになりました

I have decided to get a job.

はい

Yes

でそこでは

So there...

そこで8年半ぐらい働いてたんですけど

I worked there for about eight and a half years.

dział何やらなかったんですか行くの仕事は

What did you do for work?

まあ楽しかったですね商品好きなんだ

Well, it was fun. I really like the product.

なんかねこう車を直してくる仕事とか

It's like a job fixing cars or something.

のを入って 13常に楽しいなぁと思っていたんですね dee んうんうんうんうんうんと見ていたら

I always thought it was fun to be in it, and as I was watching, I said "hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm."

中 Abend って思っていたくて

I wanted to think of it as "middle of the evening."

なんかね戦車のけっこう車を直してくださいって思っていたんですけどそこで quite ありがとう lá

I was thinking about fixing quite a few tanks, but thank you very much for that.

でもやっぱ楽しかったんですけど車ってどんどん進化していくし

But it was really fun, and cars are constantly evolving.

覚えたのがどんどんまた新しく覚えないといけないのがあれで

I have to keep learning new things as I keep remembering what I've learned.

プリウスの修理の講習会プリウスが出てき始めて

A workshop on Prius repairs has started to emerge as the Prius became available.

とても複雑な車になって

It has become a very complex car.

この先普通の自動車やじゃ直せなくなるのじゃないかなと思って

I think that in the future, ordinary cars won't be able to be repaired anymore.

なるほど

I see.

でそこでちょっと人生悩んで仕事をそこで辞めて

So I was struggling with life there and decided to quit my job.

1年近くちょっと放浪

A little wandering for nearly a year.

はい放浪しました自分探しのために

Yes, I wandered around for self-discovery.

すみませんそれ何歳の時ですか放浪するの

Excuse me, how old were you when you went wandering?

27の時ですね

It's when I was 27.

それまで8年ぐらいは車屋さんでいたから

I had been at a car dealership for about 8 years until then.

はい

Yes

でももうなんかこの先ちょっと先行き詰まっちゃうような

But it feels like I'm going to hit a dead end a little further on.

将来が見えなくなっちゃったってことですかね

I guess it means that I can't see the future anymore.

そう

Yes.

そうですね

That's right.

そしてもう辞めたと仕事もいいやと思って一回辞める

And then I thought it's okay to quit my job and decided to resign once.

その時は独身ですかまだ

Are you still single at that time?

はい

Yes.

まだ独身だったんですかね

I wonder if they are still single.

その時は親御さんとか何ておっしゃってました

What did your parents say at that time?

うちの両親はなんかやりたいことあるだろう

My parents must have something they want to do.

自分悔いないのやりなって応援してくれて

"Thank you for supporting me to do what I won't regret."

そういうご両親

Such parents.

カップラーメンとかいっぱいごっそり渡して

Hand over a bunch of cup noodles.

送り出してくれた感じですね

It feels like you've sent me off.

車で旅してたんで

I was traveling by car.

そうですね

That's right.

えーすごい

Wow, amazing!

じゃあ今から僕どっか行ってくるよみたいな感じで

Well then, I'm going to go somewhere now.

両親の了解もらってどっか行っちゃったってことですか

Did you get your parents' permission and go somewhere?

そうですね一応行くよって言ってくればみたいな感じ

Well, I guess it's like saying I'll go just to keep it in mind.

行ってくればって

"Just go."

えーすごいご両親ですね

Wow, your parents are amazing!

お父さんお母さん

Mom and Dad

今もといい理解者だなって思って

I still think you're a good understanding person.

それでどうしたの車1台とカップラーメン積んで

So what happened with the car packed with instant noodles?

どこ行ったんですか

Where did you go?

47都道府県全部

All 47 prefectures.

回ってきましたね

It's come around again, hasn't it?

どのぐらいの期間で

How long is the period?

大体1年まではいかないと思うんですけど

I don't think it will take about a year.

それ近くちょっと車でずっとフラフラ

I'm just driving around aimlessly nearby.

いろいろ回ってましたね

You've been going around quite a bit, haven't you?

なんか面白い経験いっぱいできそうな気がするけど

I feel like I'll be able to have a lot of interesting experiences.

なんか印象に残ってるのを2つ3つお願いします

Please share two or three things that left an impression on you.

印象に残ってるのは

What stands out to me is...

えーっと

Um...

真夏の8月の1日ぐらいに

Around August 1st in the middle of summer.

西北東日本の西北東に着いた時に

When I arrived in the northeast of Japan.

気温が13度ぐらいですごい凍え死にそうになったなっていうのと

The temperature is about 13 degrees, and I feel like I'm going to freeze to death.

あとは沖縄でやっぱ沖縄の海の綺麗さに

And then, in Okinawa, it's really about the beauty of the ocean in Okinawa.

はい

Yes

惹かれましたね

I was attracted.

なるほど

I see.

じゃあ本当に北から南まで全部行っちゃったんですね

So you really went all the way from the north to the south, huh?

そうですね

That's right.

それ47都道府県を回るって決めていったんだその時は

At that time, I decided to travel to all 47 prefectures.

そうですね

That's right.

でも実際にそれやり遂げちゃったんですね

But you actually accomplished that, didn't you?

1年ぐらいで

About a year.

そうですね

That's right.

その間ってどうやってお金繋いでたんですか

How did you manage your finances during that time?

お金は全職で貯めたお金と

The money is the money saved from all jobs.

全職辞める前に夜ラーメン屋でバイトして

Before quitting my full-time job, I'll work part-time at a ramen shop at night.

ちゃんと貯めてたんだ行くぞって決めて

I've been saving properly, and I've decided to go!

なるほどね

I see.

それを使い切るって形で

In the form of using it up.

そうなんですか

Is that so?

じゃあその各地回った時にはアルバイトしてたわけとかではなく

So when you were traveling to various places, it wasn't because you were working part-time?

まあないですね

Well, that's unlikely.

もう旅中はもう旅に専念して

During the journey, focus solely on the journey.

専念をして

Be dedicated.

はい

Yes

場所によってはあなたどこから来たのとかっていう

Depending on the place, they might ask you where you came from.

そういう会話とかもあったりしたんですか

Did those kinds of conversations happen as well?

そうですね

That's right.

もうそんなの日常的にいつもみんな声かけてもらって

It's become such a daily routine for everyone to always call out to me.

泊めてもらったり

Being offered to stay.

飯食わしてもらったり

Being treated to a meal and such.

お世話になりました

Thank you for your support.

そこの方その時出会った方と繋がってたりまだするんですか

Are you still connected with the person you met at that time?

はいまだはい沖縄とか出会った仲間とか

Yes, still yes, friends I met in Okinawa and such.

未だに連絡取ったり結婚式行ったりはい

I still keep in touch and go to weddings.

はい

Yes

あすごい結構あのやりますねやりますねしたら変だけどやりきりますねあの主婦さん

Wow, that's impressive! It feels a bit strange to say it, but I'll see it through, that housewife.

いい加減なんで

Why are you being so careless?

いやいや

No, no.

いやでもそれをなんかほら途中でも挫折して帰ってこようかなとかもう嫌になってとかっていうことやりきっちゃったってことでしょそれを

Well, I mean, isn’t it just that I might get discouraged halfway through and think about coming back, or just get tired of it, and yet I’ve gone ahead and done it anyway?

そうですね一応はい言った以上はなんか全部待ってこようと思って

Well, since I've said it, I think I'll wait for everything.

えー

Eh?

それが二十七八の頃

That was around the age of twenty-seven or twenty-eight.

二十七八ぐらいの時ですね

It was around the age of twenty-seven or twenty-eight.

はいはい

Yes, yes.

えーすごいですねえそれでその後じゃあ帰ってきましたって言ってどうなるんですか

Wow, that's amazing! So what happens after that when you say you came back?

えーと旅中にあの沖縄で出会った仲間となんかいろいろ物作りしたんですね家を作る家っていうか店舗作ったりしてなんかそういうなんか物作りの現場に立ち会わせてもらって仲間と一緒になんか物作るとか職人ってどこ日本中どこ行っても世界中どこ行っても食えるかなと思って

Well, during my travels, I got to create various things with my friends I met in Okinawa, like building houses or stores. I had the opportunity to be involved in the process of making things, and I thought that being a craftsman is something you can do anywhere in Japan or even around the world.

あれ何か現場に再会して食べたりとかをしてたりは何か何かあるんだろうなと思ったりしてたりですね

I thought there might be something like reuniting at the site and eating something there.

変わらないっていうか

It's not that it doesn't change.

何か始められたら

If I could start something.

そうですね

That's right.

何か始められたら

If I could start something.

手に触っつけようと思って

I was thinking of touching it with my hand.

えっと旅先から帰ってきて職人になろうと思って

Well, I thought I would become a craftsman after returning from my trip.

そうですねはい

That's right, yes.

今の仕事に繋がる出会いがあったってことだ

It means that there was a connection that led to my current job.

そうですねきっかけはそこなんですけどまあ働いたのは地元なんですけど

Well, that's where it started, but I worked in my hometown.

けど

But.

こういう職人になろうと思ったマインドはそこで旅中に気づきましたね

I realized the mindset of wanting to become such a craftsman during my travels.

ただ

Just.

なるほど

I see.

沖縄にいた時に家を作ったんですか

Did you build a house when you were in Okinawa?

家っていうか

It's more like a home.

施設の建築物をちょっと作ったり

I made a little bit of the facility's buildings.

ないものからあるものを生み出していく

Creating something from nothing.

っていうところに惹かれて

I'm attracted to that kind of thing.

これいいな手に食ってこういうことか

"This is good, so that's what it means."

みたいなのが自分の中に入ってきた

Something like that has come into me.

そうですね

That's right.

でこっち帰ってきた

I came back here.

1年経って帰ってきてよし

It's good to come back after a year.

何か作るものをやろうと思って

I thought I'd do something to make.

そっちの方に入っていったってことですか

Does that mean they went in that direction?

そうですね

That's right.

でなんか全部一緒だと思ってたんですけど

I thought everything was the same, though.

たまたま誘われたのが土木だったんで

I happened to be invited to civil engineering.

土木の会社に入ったんですけど

I joined a civil engineering company.

今思うと大工をその時やりたかったんですけど

Looking back now, I wanted to be a carpenter at that time.

多分ちょっと間違えて

Maybe I made a little mistake.

土木の方来たんですけど

The civil engineering guy came.

それはそれで外交とかもつながったんで

That also connected to diplomacy in its own way.

よかったなと思って

I'm glad to hear that.

なるほど

I see.

希望した形ではなかったけどやってみて

It wasn't the form I had hoped for, but go ahead and try it.

今思うと

Now that I think about it

振り返るとつながってる

When I look back, it's all connected.

はい

Yes

あーなるほど

Ah, I see.

そうかものづくりだから家を作る方で

I see, since it's about manufacturing, you prefer to make houses.

大工さんとかだとイメージだったのに

I had the image of someone like a carpenter.

土木だったってこと

It means "It was civil engineering."

ちょっと間違えちゃった

I made a little mistake.

間違えちゃったんだそれも

I messed that up too.

でも入ってみたから

But I tried going in.

こっちかみたいな感じでやりきったってことなんですね

So it’s like, I gave it my all like this, right?

それはそれでよかったなと思って

I think that was good in its own way.

いやなんかそう思うとなんか

Well, when I think about it like that, it feels like...

佐々木さんの人生もこう

Sasaki's life is like this too.

なんていうかこう一本の川になってるっていうか

It's like, how should I put it, it's as if it's become one river.

流れてきてるからね

It's flowing in.

なあっていうふうに思いますけど

I think that's what it is.

そうっすね

That's right.

流れ流されきましたね

I've been carried along by the flow, haven't I?

うーん

Hmm...

いやでもそんな中でも

Well, even so, amidst all that...

ずっとそばにいてくださった方がいらっしゃるんですよね

There is someone who has always been by your side, isn't there?

そうっすね

That's right.

うん

Yeah.

家や周囲の施設

Homes and surrounding facilities

外交エクステリアの仕事をする佐々木さん

Mr. Sasaki, who works in diplomatic exterior.

少年時代は少しだけやんちゃ時代もあったということですが

It is said that there was a little bit of a mischievous period during his childhood.

高校卒業後は仕事に専念

After graduating from high school, I dedicated myself to work.

自動車の修理工として働きます

I will work as a car mechanic.

しかし

However

限界も感じるようになり

I've started to feel my limits.

1年間だけという約束で

With a promise of just one year.

車に荷物を積んで

Loading luggage into the car.

日本各地47都道府県を回る旅に出かけました

I embarked on a journey to visit all 47 prefectures of Japan.

そこで出会った皆さんと

I met everyone there.

何かしらのものを作る仕事

A job that involves creating something.

手に職を得たいと思うようになり

I have come to want to gain a skill.

地元に帰ってきた佐々木さんだったのです

It was Mr. Sasaki who had returned to his hometown.

そしてそこでずーっと

And then I stayed there the whole time.

佐々木さんを待ってくださっていた方がいたんです

There was someone waiting for Mr. Sasaki.

人生の転機はチャンス

A turning point in life is an opportunity.

皆さんどんな感想をお持ちでしょうか

What are everyone's thoughts?

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This is a program that highlights your outlook on life and perspective on work through interviews.

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We are looking forward to your arrival.

それではまたお楽しみに

Well then, I look forward to it again.

ご視聴ありがとうございました

Thank you for watching.